Hi all,
I am noob in HTC, I want to know how can I integrate CM ROM with (HTC Sense 3.0 Lockscreen) and (GO Launcher EX)
Thank you~
Questions like this should be in the general section, not dev. Dev section is for development, and no questions about development don't
count as development
But...
Go launcher.... easy... install the app
Sense lock screen, will have to hope a dev decides its a good enough idea and port it over. Currently there is no way to do it tho
Rellikzephyr
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Agree with RellikZephyr.
Little info about the lock screen:
The htc lockscreen leans heavily on the sense framework, so to port it over we have to write or own implementation on the framework or modify the lockscreen to not use it, but both methods are just to complex and work intensive, no single dev wants to do it (or can't), since its basicly a complete rewrite.
So in short: i think you will never ever get sense lockscreen on CM, maybe with the openSense libs there is a small chance, but i wouldn't count on it. No single person who runs CM (or AOSP) want to use sense stuff, its just a drainer
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Being a fan of the interface style of ccyrowski's Interface on his rom and it appears discontinued i wondered if any of the devs had any intention or would consider continuing the manilla style interface of the rom on theirs if not would also be interested if i could find an apk with the UI setup. Cant knock the message and email setup on it as well as the near seemless intigration of facebook. appreciate any replies i can get in advance and if this is in the wrong section i apologize ahead of time. Figured best place as would prefer a rom with it built in over the apk and havent got the hang of cooking android roms yet, lot trickier then Winmo lol.
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trystlore said:
Being a fan of the interface style of ccyrowski's Interface on his rom and it appears discontinued i wondered if any of the devs had any intention or would consider continuing the manilla style interface of the rom on theirs if not would also be interested if i could find an apk with the UI setup. Cant knock the message and email setup on it as well as the near seemless intigration of facebook. appreciate any replies i can get in advance and if this is in the wrong section i apologize ahead of time. Figured best place as would prefer a rom with it built in over the apk and havent got the hang of cooking android roms yet, lot trickier then Winmo lol.
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are you asking for an apk that installs the sense UI? that is not going to happen... sense UI is like blur and such. its a specialized type of "overlay" for android. think of it as the rims and tires to a vehicle. it just adds to things. for the NEW sense UI check out eugene373 espresso rom. its the newest out and stable enough for you to at least try.
Although I love the way sense UI feels, I decided to go with froyo, and will stay with stock android until somebody ports sense to 2.2 . However, I really like the news widget that sense UI has. I've looked and found the apk, here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6447678&postcount=10, but it doesn't install correctly. Can anybody help me figure out what's wrong or direct me to a working solution? Thanks!!
Before someone rips you a new one for not searching the forum, ill answer your question.
Simply... no. All sense widgets rely on the sense UI framework which cannot be ported over to a normal nexus one rom. So any widget seen on a desire rom cannot be ported over... period. Sorry bro
Laaame. Anyone know of a full page news widget similar to that of sense?
I dunno about a full page one, but NewsRoom is really nice.
Can you do it?
Folks over at sgs2 have been trying to port it over for quite sometime now. I doubt you will see it anytime soon. Besides do you really want sense?
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Yes, I want Sence I've had so many HTC with Sense and like it especially 3.5.
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Folks over at sgs2 have been trying to port it over for quite sometime now. I doubt you will see it anytime soon. Besides do you really want sense?
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Do i want sense? Yes, Its great! Touchwiz is not as refined.
Sense features i miss
The great Audio player, Better than power amp (In my opinion)
Fantastic lockscreen (customizable)
Great People, weather and calendar widgets
Perfect Dialpad
Well designed SMS and email client
And all the other sense themed widgets.
I know i lot of these features can be added with apps from the market, But none i have found so far have the Tidy uniform look of sense. Parts of touchwiz look like they have been made by a colour blind monkey! Also one of my biggest gripes with touchwiz is the lockscreen (poor animation, lack of customization and sometimes unresponsive) If i try to use a different lockscreen, NoLED stops working, which i like because the lack of a physical notification LED.
So far i have tried-
SPB shell 3D - expensive, and still needs some work for are device, but looks cool. More looks over substance
Launcher Pro - Its OK, just basic
Go laucher, Go Locker, Go Contacts - Good attempt, just not as refined and not optimized for the screen resolution of the note
The note, hardware wise, is the best Phone (yes it is a phone) I have owned. Personally i feel touchwiz needs some work.
Now others may love touhwiz, So i do not want this thread to turn into a fanboi thread of either way! This is just my opinion, its not intended to irritate anybody.
For one, i would love to see a sense rom for such great hardware!
Overall i like the note, and with any luck ICS will null my gripes.
Sorry to OP if i have hijacked this thread, Just sparked all my (common) sense thoughts off at once
Also best place for questions is the Q&A section.
Take it easy
O_G
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no wont be done
For me TouchWiz and Sense is same ****. Go Launcher is normal. Holo is the best launcher I ever use. I hope samsung will not forget or ignore about this.
It was hard to get used to touchwiz after Htv Sense for first few days. I tried to find similar widgets to make it more look and function like htc sense. Then as more I get used to touchwiz the less I hated it. If I had a choice I would still prefer htc sense as already mentioned it is pretty well designed graphically and functionally out of the box. But I discover some touchwiz features missing in htc sense too. For instance uninstalling apps right from the app drawer is awesome just as practical as uninstalling on iphone. Samsung touchwiz seems to have it all as separate widgets and os wise but they are not as a whole package in terms of visual integrity and not as functional as sense considering each app separately. Some of features like remote tracking is not even in default rom unless you add them urself later which takes some research to even find out it's even possible. HTC sense serves it all as a whole package , even the navigating software you can purchase it right from the htc location widget and it is adapted to rest of widgets. Contact integration from different accounts like facebook, google, twitter etc is merged automatically on htc sense by choice which is missing on touchwiz. You have to add your htcsense user id and pass only once on Sense and it is recognized automatically on related apps like "htc likes" but on touchwiz you have to add your samsung account each time again and again for apps like "samsung apps" etc... Considering outstanding hardware features of Gnote I have no intension to go back to htc just for sense as none of their devices are even close to gnote recently but I would definitely like to see samsung engineers put more effort on improving touchwiz in terms of compatible graphic design, integrated all-in features , user friendly ui to make it more competitive against htc sense which seems to be only superiority of htc devices still left.
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Not going to happen people. Have you EVER seen a non HTC device with Sense? Correct, and that won't change.
Moto Milestone had sense port
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Im surprised it took 4 months for this kind of thread to pop up. I will never understand the ram hogging hype. It reminds me of iphone users bragging about a million apps so they can swipe the screen from left to right doing nothing.
But all in all we are using android which gives us plenty of options. If a clone of sense doesnt work. Theres always that option of making it yourself.
I swore launcher pro widgets were a exact replica of htc sense. Matched up with a theme and it was good to go. Plus that customizable widget app that did more things then htc lockscreen. But im guessing this isnt good enough.
Sense used to be great and now it's just too bloated
Thanks for the responses. I guess its each to here own. Now i have been assigned to this forum, i shall put this thread in its correct place.
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sense just has the best dialer avaible. the touchwiz dialer just doesnt find if i search for "uiop" and there is clearly a "qwertz uiop" in the contacts. sense dialer finds that.
aldo the touchwiz keyboard is odd... long press makes caps lock chars... sense gives you signs like "+ -*& %". i solved that with swiftkey x... but for the dialer theres no replacement right now. ex dialer is the closest but it needs 10 seconds or more to load the call log. thats not acceptable.
i like that the phone features of a phone are excelent, not just satisfiyng.
Why are there two of the exact same thread..?
From the exact same person..
Sense is an abomination, why would you want to buy the fastest phone available just to bog it down with bloatware, reducing it to a level of performance of a 1GHz single-core? But, to each his own - sadly, no way to make a Sense rom for a non-HTC device, if only for legality reasons. Sense is, at least partly, proprietary code.
Sense is the best out of the box android UI. Period.
I've just recently got my Galaxy Note and I'll admit I do miss the sense from my HTC Desire HD. Personally, it seems more intuitive when it comes to shortcuts, integration and it is visually appealing. However, I know it slows down the phone as it did that to my HTC Desire HD, especially when I updated to the latest sense. It's very laggy and the amount of animations are completely unnecessary. I don't need an animation of the page swivelling onto the screen when unlocking the phone. I'll miss the ease of access to certain things, but I want to get use to touchwiz.
There is an option to get Sense 3.0 or 3.5
Hi All,
there is an easier way to get sense plus even more ....
that is the only phone HTC HD2
you can get it cheap on ebay aution...
like mine had... and you love it, it flash from WM6.5 to WP7 to android .. to Ubuntu.... and more ...
wilson_sony said:
Hi All,
there is an easier way to get sense plus even more ....
that is the only phone HTC HD2
you can get it cheap on ebay aution...
like mine had... and you love it, it flash from WM6.5 to WP7 to android .. to Ubuntu.... and more ...
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LOL! You come to a Note forum to suggest an HD2? A phone that's so inferior it's not even funny?
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Zamboney said:
LOL! You come to a Note forum to suggest an HD2? A phone that's so inferior it's not even funny?
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Sometimes HD2 with sense onboard acts smoother than Note with TW.
So if you want Sense, HD2 is your perfect choice.
Its hardly possible to port Sense to Note or other non-HTC devices.
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It's themeing! Honestly I like the holo look of ics. I also like the textured look of sense. And it seems while sense 4 is just as intrusive as previous versions, they redid the graphics and tweaked in ics features to blend quite well with the holo elements in tact. However this isn't the case with 3.6. 3.6 really is just a tweaked 3.5 designed to work with ics. Problem is there are 2 themes present here. A lot of menus your seeing holo elements and but you still have textured borders of old sense everywhere in the ui. The result is a ui with a loss of identity. You can install custom skins that help but they still leave a lot of textured sense borders that can't be removed as the skins only go so deep.
I will say overall I like sense and buying an HTC phone I didn't expect AOSP. I think if they couldn't give us 4 than 3.6 should of at least been designed better to blend in with holo elements. And one thing I don't get about HTC is they always remove the overscroll effect. I'm going to root my phone soon and first order or business will be fixing the themeing. I dunno if ill put a custom Rom on yet just want more theming control to start. Imo I don't want a pure senseless Rom as I do like sense
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Are you going to make a theme?
I dunno, it's one thing to root and tweak with the graphics, it's another to make a cwm theme. I'm not a developer... Yet
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Nice wording man, I like the "yet" part... It's definitely an interesting community! Ever since I joined, I've installed Ubuntu on my Core i7 Dell laptop along with Android 4.0.1 on VirtualBox, I really hope to get involved in the dev community myself in the future.
Yeah I've been pressed for time but I've been wanting to learn how to develop for my HTC Flyer tablet and my Vivid. With the Flyer its creating a better stock launcher that interest me as with it being on honeycomb and support being cut off from htc, there aren't a whole lot of choices. For this phone its cleaning up the stock rom and allowing ics and Sense 3.6 to coexist in perfect harmony. No promises on anything yet
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Yeah I've been pressed for time but I've been wanting to learn how to develop for my HTC Flyer tablet and my Vivid. With the Flyer its creating a better stock launcher that interest me as with it being on honeycomb and support being cut off from htc, there aren't a whole lot of choices. For this phone its cleaning up the stock rom and allowing ics and Sense 3.6 to coexist in perfect harmony. No promises on anything yet
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I don't consider my self a dev either...yet
But I do have some experience with the development on the Samsung infuse (which you can tell by my Sig)
I've been trying to mess with the stock rom for a while now with no luck...I just can't seem to get any apktool to work with stock ics of this device, and after a little research it seems sense 3.6 is the problem, but I have yet to find a solution
I've asked a few times for help on decompiling for the vivid but have gotten no response...I'm not trying to discourage you all i wanna get across is that if you have any success...please share the knowledge with me
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Yeah htc makes someone nice devices but they aren't developer devices for sure. I'll let you know once I get involved in it what I can do might be why most flash the sense removed roms as its all or none.
Yeah overall I like sense 3.6 just hate the theme clashing. Good example is hitting the search button. All of a sudden your not using sense 3.6 anymore, your now using aosp android! I think I remember reading Google required a certain percentage of holo elements for market access, and I think htc kept that in mind in redesigning sense from the ground up with the one series. But when it came time to upgrade what they had they just basically ported 3.5 over and added a few ics features into the launcher. HTC claims that 4.0 is too different from 3.5 and earlier and previous users need familiarity but Imo if you've played with a one x its all pretty familiar. 3.6 overall was a bad call
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My one major gripe with Sense is the lack of changing things. I'd like to be able to (without using LauncherPro) tell it "I want 5 columns, and 6 rows of icons, on top of the 5 at the bottom. (so a total of 7 rows of icons, 5 columns)"
It WORKS well, just see some photo's I've posted in recent days.
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My one major gripe with Sense is the lack of changing things. I'd like to be able to (without using LauncherPro) tell it "I want 5 columns, and 6 rows of icons, on top of the 5 at the bottom. (so a total of 7 rows of icons, 5 columns)"
It WORKS well, just see some photo's I've posted in recent days.
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I hear ya, but thats all stock launchers including the google one. Sense 3.6 has some of the best customization for stock I've seen, but it still pales in comparison to say ADW EX, Go Launcher, or Apex.
alright...for the longest time ive been trying to use apktool with the "att stock ics for chefs or whatever" never had luck...today i decided to try apktool with an old download of 0.9 holics rom, to my surprise apktool works with it-i was able to install framework, decompile, recompile...it all worked!
so im wondering if maybe the stock ics wasnt properly deodexed, or maybe with holics rom something special was done? when i get the time im gonna try contacting bananacakes and see if maybe he can help me set up a stock base, or possibly use a stock base he may have laying around...ive tried making my own stock rom in the past from the RUU but got the same errors as the att stock rom for chefs...
Hey I was just wondering why this does not work .
Why can I not cross use different apks from different roms .
I am using Ice cold sandwich atm and the Camera application sucks on it , half the stuff doesn't work so I am forced to use a third party application.
I tried to access the app folder inside the "system.ext3.tar" which was found in one of my backup roms . ---> Created with CW MOD
I basically tried to take the working camera application and install it on my current rom but it crashes on startup, how do you actually go about doing stuff like this? What are the requirements ?
I just dont get why it does not work
I also hate the clock APK in the rom it does not have a world clock which I really need. I tried to again take the World Clock apk from another rom and it did not even install.
They were all from different icecream sandwiches but with sense 4 , the rom I am using does not have sense but I dont see how that would really affect this
Can someone explain to me how to cross use APK system files ?:good::good:
I believe you can't cross sense with aosp and aokp. If you want sense apps to work then port to a sense Rom. Your trying to put a square peg in a triangle hole.
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I cannor really explain it, but I know for sure that u can't use apk-files from sense or touchwhiz and use them on AOKP ROMs. It's just not possible. Same thing for widgets...
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I cannor really explain it, but I know for sure that u can't use apk-files from sense or touchwhiz and use them on AOKP ROMs. It's just not possible. Same thing for widgets...
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I have an apk though that is the SENSE clock and it works in me rom which is AOSP :/
I can upload it if you would like to see and it works it appears in the widgets sections on my phone
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I have an apk though that is the SENSE clock and it works in me rom which is AOSP :/
I can upload it if you would like to see and it works it appears in the widgets sections on my phone
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I don't think it would be *sense*
It hasn't been taken from a HTC rom, its just a clock thats themed to look like sense
like themed
A themed AOKP rom to look like sense is not a sense rom
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I don't think it would be *sense*
It hasn't been taken from a HTC rom, its just a clock thats themed to look like sense
like themed
A themed AOKP rom to look like sense is not a sense rom
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I see thanks for all your help guys and if anyone can explain to me the technical aspect of not being able to cross APKS due to AOSP and AOKP
I am just curious as to the limiting factor
Nanafy said:
I see thanks for all your help guys and if anyone can explain to me the technical aspect of not being able to cross APKS due to AOSP and AOKP
I am just curious as to the limiting factor
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HTC apps require HTC framework and other HTC apps in order to work
So without the other apps, just come of them won't work
Most apps from other Roms, like Sony Ericsson and miui Roms will work, I have some of them
I think just Samsung and HTC apps won't work
But Samsung apps can be hacked
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Nanafy said:
I see thanks for all your help guys and if anyone can explain to me the technical aspect of not being able to cross APKS due to AOSP and AOKP
I am just curious as to the limiting factor
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There are dependency on HTC framework for sense APk,thus causing sense apk not working at aosp/aopk rom.
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