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Ive noticed a significant decrease in battery life ever since i updated my phone to FRF83. I can leave it on at 100% and it drains down to 75% or even lower the following morning. It usually drains no more than 10% if i leave it running overnight.
I dont have any apps running in the background, and my task killer is set to auto kill 3 mins after screen blankout. Auto refresh is, and has always been on since the day i got the phone though.
I manually updated to FRF85B and the battery life is still as bad as ever. Ive never gotten this problem with android 2.1 or any of the earlier froyo builds. Someone care to tell me whats wrong? Ive heard others reporting that their battery life has increased after updating to froyo, why am i getting the opposite?
I have this issue because of my exchange server.
Ive never set up and exchange server on my phone. The only constant apps that should be auto syncing are gmail, calander and twitter, which is set to refresh once every 1 hour.
Same for me, battery life sucks lately.
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Same for me, battery life sucks lately.
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Then there are people reporting that their battery life has increased after updating to froyo. In fact mine was ok at first, until i started using FRF83 onwards then it all started to go downhill. This morning i woke up with the battery at 44% when i last saw it, it was at 90% the night before. It drained that much overnight and its not supposed to happen!
Mine was very good since updating to froyo ( starting from first builds leaked). Its very good now too, better than before anyway. I used to run of juice by 9PM, now i have ~ 20% left with the same usage.
Check out what apps are consuming the battery, i got terrible batt life when i tried the droidx live wallpaper.
App usage are the usual stuff.
Display being the highest, followed by android system, then cell standby, phone idle, twitter, android OS, launcher pro..etc
something seems to be sucking up my battery and i dont know what
I'll be the first one, I guess - I blame the task killer. It's widely known that you shouldn't need a task killer, unless you have some rogue app.
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I'll be the first one, I guess - I blame the task killer. It's widely known that you shouldn't need a task killer, unless you have some rogue app.
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But if your task killer is set to auto-kill on screen-off, even if various apps restart then that should only be in the first few minutes and shouldn't reduce the battery that much.
I have taskiller installed but only for manual killing of problem apps (a rare occurrence) and I have noticed poor battery life since moving to FRF85b - didn't notice anything of the sort in the Froyo versions before 85b though.
Well i just uninstalled task killer, i'll leave the phone running overnight again to test the battery again. But from the looks of it. It seems battery life has improved slightly, but it could be just me.
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But if your task killer is set to auto-kill on screen-off, even if various apps restart then that should only be in the first few minutes and shouldn't reduce the battery that much.
I have taskiller installed but only for manual killing of problem apps (a rare occurrence) and I have noticed poor battery life since moving to FRF85b - didn't notice anything of the sort in the Froyo versions before 85b though.
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Yeah thats true. It shouldnt suck up that much battery cos it only kills apps once. It could be an issue with the task killer causing it to drain the battery, because after uninstalling it i think the battery lasts a little longer. But i'll leave it running overnight again to confirm.
My quick story:
- frf72 and earlier - about 12 hours battery life for me. Used task killers, 2 emails on push. WiFi, BT off. Also tried juicedefender and setCPU. They made my battery life even worse.
- frf82+ (now frf91). Read up on how Android manages tasks and power. Got rid of all the task managers, setCPU and JD. Only use OSMonitor every once in a while to see if any dumbass app using up CPU in wakelock. So far none.
- EVERYTHING is ON. Wifi, BT, GPS - always on. I never use 2G, it's always 3G/HSDPA. GMAIL on PUSH, Exchange PUSH or 10minutes (no difference in battery for me)
- After a 24-hour test (from which 8 hours were on standby at night) I lost 80% battery life, so 20% still remain.
My advice: uninstall anything like setCPU, JD or taskkillers. Let Android handle that. Install OSMonitor and make sure nothing's in wakelock. Wipe cache if you want. If you're not getting 18-20+ hours, perhaps time to calibrate ur battery.
Thanks for the tip, just installled OSmonitor. The interface is pretty messy! But at least i understand whats going on. So all i need to do is keep track of which apps are at the highest load?
Is it really necessary to kill unwanted apps (Twitter, goggles, gmail..etc) because they are taking up RAM to improve battery life while idling?
OR you could just take Paul's advice and not use a task killer. My money is on him =)
FAQ: Why You Shouldn’t Be Using a Task Killer with Android
Wow thats a very informative read! Thanks for the link. I too also thought that an unwanted running task means i need to kill it to free RAM in order to speed things up and improve battery life. Didnt know im actually doing it harm.
Looks like i'll ditch my task manager for good and have faith in the OS.
Using LauncherPro Beta? I think some battery issues have been traced back to the way LP is handling updating widgets right now. Hoping for an update to fix it soon.
Well guess what. I just used the phone for an entire day and left it on since last night. It dropped down to 25% when i got home and was about to replace the battery pack. So it looks like task manager was the cause of the problem.
Launcherpro doesnt seem to be affecting the battery life.
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Well guess what. I just used the phone for an entire day and left it on since last night. It dropped down to 25% when i got home and was about to replace the battery pack. So it looks like task manager was the cause of the problem.
Launcherpro doesnt seem to be affecting the battery life.
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Well it won't show up in the battery usage as affecting the battery. It has something to do with the widget updating not launcherpro. I removed BBC News, Beautiful Widgets and my Battery Info widget and my battery is now holding steady.
I'd be interested if you'd run an experiment, remove all updating widgets, notification widgets, etc and try again.
Hello guys,
lately my Nexus One abttery consumption gets more and more consumptive. I dunno why, I already reduced the home screen from 7 became 5 and reduce the widgets too. but the battery life now did't even reach one day.
I read that someone has their nexus one running 3 days with browsing and GPS n Sync ON.
any advice how to conserve battery life?
There are plenty of threads discussing that same question. Basically the answer is that there's no perfect formula. Experiment and see what you can achieve.
Personally I tend to turn off most of automatic syncing stuff, but it's not because of battery life, but rather because I want more control.
Also, if your mobile reception is constantly low, your battery life will be significantly shorter.
heres what i did to increase my battery life.
turn off wifi/bluetooth
i leave my screen brightness at 100% (i like my screen bright) and leave gps on since its only used when gps is required
download a battery saving kernal. im using intersectraven 925mv kernal. less power consumption=less battery used. its been shown that 925mv is the best voltage compared to 800mv/1000mv
download "Task Manager" from the market. use it to set all apps to "kill list" so that everything is killed when you put ur phone on lock/sleep. This app helped me save tons of battery. Power doesnt drain at all when your phone is idle and my phone is at constant 250+/- memory.
other then that my phone has all the widgets on the homescreen and battery is good
d0mo said:
download "Task Manager" from the market. use it to set all apps to "kill list" so that everything is killed when you put ur phone on lock/sleep. This app helped me save tons of battery. Power doesnt drain at all when your phone is idle and my phone is at constant 250+/- memory.
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I don't suggest doing it, since it brings nothing good and no power saved. If you kill widgets that update themselves - you might as well not put them on the screen, since they do nothing. If you kill system services - you might as well uninstall the programs that run them, since they're not working. And for everything else - you're just wasting the CPU time required to kill and then relaunch programs, and the memory that can be used better.
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heres what i did to increase my battery life.
turn off wifi/bluetooth
i leave my screen brightness at 100% (i like my screen bright) and leave gps on since its only used when gps is required
download a battery saving kernal. im using intersectraven 925mv kernal. less power consumption=less battery used. its been shown that 925mv is the best voltage compared to 800mv/1000mv
download "Task Manager" from the market. use it to set all apps to "kill list" so that everything is killed when you put ur phone on lock/sleep. This app helped me save tons of battery. Power doesnt drain at all when your phone is idle and my phone is at constant 250+/- memory.
other then that my phone has all the widgets on the homescreen and battery is good
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1+2 = Nonsense.
1 - Kernel
2 - Task Killers cause more problems then they help.
Battery life is simply a function of how much CPU time is being used, how much data is being transferred, and how much the screen is on. Poor reception is another thing to consider, in most cases it's one of the three things above. Of course there are other factors, like how much you're talking on the phone, etc, but it boils down to three major things.
CPU time generally is only a problem when using the phone, games, live wallpapers (particularly 3D ones), and sometimes bad processes or badly designed programs. You can evaluate all of this using System Panel in the market.
How much data is being transferred you can control directly by setting your sync settings, or if you want to isolate it completely, disable syncing on all apps and otherwise use the phone normally. If you have Facebook, Twitter, MySpace, GMail, IM (Gtalk/whatever others), Weather, etc all syncing, it's going to be a lot of random traffic. Setting the phone to EDGE-only will reduce some of the battery usage from this, but controlling the syncing itself IMO is a better option than using EDGE.
Screen of course is how much you are playing with the phone, and I think this is the one that most people have problems with. If you're messing with the phone all day long, yes, it's going to "eat battery", and it's going to be caused from all three things above. CPU from you doing stuff, probably network traffic from you doing stuff, and the power to drive the screen. Some people suggest using black themes or backgrounds. Yes, AMOLED uses more power to drive a bright white than an LCD, and much more power to drive bright white vs black or dark, but think about how much you're staring at the background.. Only on the launcher. Do you stare at the launcher all day? But perhaps if you're reading a book for an extended period it's worth it to set it to white on black, vs black on white. Sometimes you can't control this, such as the browser is (generally) a white background.
I'm no expert, but god I'm tired of hearing nonsense around everything "eating battery".
I see, thanks 4 d advice you all
maybe the good way out is the Kernel flashing.
any recommendation maybe? which kernel are the best?
I don't want to downgrade my 1GHz clock though...
and URL is appreciated
What you think about this, you use some app that close automatically services or not?
It's senseless to use such apps because Android does it by itself. Further it uses more energy and your battery will be low much faster.
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Self management. Close apps and services when you are not using them. Such apps that supposedly better manage your battery usage are a drain themselves.
Agree with Liam really .
Big battery drain is constant WIFi searching .
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Wi-fi is forever off, someone use droidwall?
Further it uses more energy and your battery will be low much faster.
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totally true !!!
Any app uses more battery than it is able to save...
There are exceptions to that such as SetCPU or Green Power Premium / JuiceDefender as they do reduce battery consumption, albeit at a cost to functionality / performance.
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There are exceptions to that such as SetCPU or Green Power Premium / JuiceDefender as they do reduce battery consumption, albeit at a cost to functionality / performance.
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But I don't think that is the point. We want maximum performance with minimum battery drain
The theme of the original question was app to extend battery life / automatically kill tasks. Utilities such as Advanced Task Killer / SetCPU / Green Power Premium and JuiceDefender spring to mind. It's true of course that Android to a certain point does this itself, but arguably these apps do it better. You cannot have a phone continually running at maximum performance without maximum battery drain.
You have to make a compromise.
Green power and juice defender are the only ones that spring to my mind.
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Using Gingerbread without any app killer I get a pretty food battery life (more than 2 days). So I really don't feel the need to use one.
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OK trying green power and juice defender I used adv task killer but IMHO has battery drain
I have been using Juice Defender with great success, I am using ultimate version which allows you set when and where to use you wifi/3g/2g etc, with a busy schedule you don't really have time to think about turning things on and off.
I set my evening hours (sleep) to turn off 3g and wifi and come back on again during the day 8am for every 1 hr polling.
This saves a huge amount of battery - easily getting 2 days with a full charge. But of course if you are using it for commuting music/videos/browsing - no software is going to help you.
Beautiful now i have installed the app gratis try it and than if satisfied get the ultimate version
As the display is what consumes the largest part of your battery, and as the SGS has an AMOLED display, you should also try
Screen Filter
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Total screen control
True, display eats most of the "juice" on SGS... About task killers: i suggest having a task killer to kill tasks when you wish (by choosing so) BUT not by themselves. Let the android do that and you'll see it does it better!
Lastly about 2.3.3 roms: the is a know issue with very heavy battery drain on some cases (it will appear as :android OS on battery stats).. That is a bug of 2.3.3 roms appearing after running some application and games (especially the "heavy" ones). Only know fix so far is rebooting (also you may hear about deleting some system apps by i do not recommend it)!
In case of need the combo of Screen protector and Green power helped me reaching the end of the days.
i use advanced task killer by rechild. autokill frequency every half hour, setting crazy, security medium. i defined exceptions for my updating widgets and gmail and thats it. this way android stops loading all sorts of aps in the background after a while so loads of free ram and stunning battery life. saying android itself does a good job is simply wrong, but i hope android will some day.
Juice Defender
For me, Juice Defender increased the life of my battery in half a day. Now I can easily reach 2 days with medium usage.
Before, It was almost impossible to end second day without charge.
I've been revamping this thread for new devices for years hoping to share some of the love with newer users. Over the time I've been on android, I've learned a few simple things that can greatly assist in the battery life of our wonderful smartphones.
If you get anything out of the thread, please don't hesitate to rate it and drop me a thanks!
If you read the thread and like the tips, have a new one to suggest, or have a revision, please post it.
On a similar note, moderators, thanks for the sticky!
General Lithium Ion Battery Information - This link includes stuff about charging, including trickle charging aka SBC (Why NOT to use it, or at your own peril)
My tips for good battery life:
Tips for both Rooted and Non-Rooted users
1.Turn off all radios when not in use.
(Bluetooth, wifi, data, 4G/Wimax/LTE, NFC, etc) Use a widget like the default power widgets, Switchpro, or a similar app from the market. *Many rooted ROMs generally allows users to access these radios and other settings from the notification pulldown menu.* The radios of the phone draw power if on even if the user isn't actually utilizing the radio's functions. A radio searching for signal (if you are in a low-signal area) drains more than a radio with good signal, so again, turn 'em off when you aren't using 'em.
To manually turn off radios without a toggle, go to Settings>wireless & networks. This can be accessed from the notification pulldown and hitting the cog icon.
Wifi uses less battery than 3G, so use wifi when you can. Another important setting to note is more dependent on the user. If you live in an area without 4G LTE coverage (check here to see), then go into Settings>Mobile data>Network Mode and check CDMA Only. This will prevent your phone from unnecessarily searching for LTE coverage, which wastes a ton of battery life.
3. I love live wallpapers, and I’ve always been a fan of pixel zombies, but they are really only good for showing off due to their battery drain.
4. Set your screen timeout/brightness to something that fits you.
The screen is the highest drain of battery power on any smartphone. BY setting the timeout, you can prevent your phone from staying on when you don’t manually turn off the screen. Also, manually turn off your screen when you’re done with your phone.
Another huge tip is to turn on automatic brightness (it is enabled by default). This greatly reduces power consumption by constantly changing the brightness of your display, tailoring it to your needs.
Settings>Display, gestures & buttons>Sleep
I use 30 seconds.
4. Task killers used to be all the rage, but no longer.
Here is the ultimate, in depth, graphically assisted, explanation by the famous Fresh ROM's chef, Flipz. Shortly, in light of recent testing, really don’t do anything but force apps that the android OS needed to be open, and thus didn’t close, to re-open. So try not using them, unless for stuff like trying to figure out why your phone isn’t sleeping with system panel. You really won’t notice a performance difference, and the adverse effects you aren’t seeing will stop
+=+ A good alternative is the application SystemPanel Pro. It has a free version, but I highly reccomend purchasing the paid app. It basically monitors everything going on with your phone's usage both in real time an in terms of usage history. If your battery is draiging fast, it tells you what app was doing it, how much it was doing it, and allows you to stop it.
5. I'm sure you have all heard around that your phone isn't "sleeping".
This is referring to the phone's "awake" time, hence the name. When you go to Settings>Power>History. You can compare the lines from awake to screen on versus time on. "Time on battery" refers to the amount of time since the last reboot. The "awake time" is how long the screen has been active. The problem is, a lot of the time, due to the endless possibilities of inconsistencies between apps/ROMs/kernels/phones, the phone will not go to "sleep", drawing power proportionate to the screen being in use when it reality the phone is sitting idle.
If you compare these times and they are the same, or if you note the difference (turn off the screen for a minute, then re-check and they are the same), then your phone is not sleeping.
One solution is to reboot.
I recommend two apps to help monitor:System Panel and Better Battery Stats. These two apps (explained in their FAQ's and descriptions greatly aid in finding those rogues.
Usually, SystemPanel will show an app that has gone "rogue" and is keeping your phone awake.
-This is done by hitting menu>settings>monitoring enabled. Then after some time has passed, ht menu>monitoring>history>change tab to top apps, and see if anything is above, say, 2-4%.
Uninstall applications/reinstalling them slowly, checking after every install to see what is causing it is one tedious but surefire solution.
Lastly,
Follow these steps that I have discovered almost always work.
1. Reboot phone.
2. Instantly upon reboot, as soon as you gain control, open up some type of monitor/taskkiller
3. "kill all" tasks on startup; about 2 times in quick succession should do the trick.
4. Turn off the screen and leave it for about five minutes.
5. Check the up time v. awake time and see if they are the same.
6. If they are, repeat steps 1-5. If they are different, you are good.
6. Apps and Combinations to watch out for!
-Facebook- Tries to sync live feed all the time, HIGHLY recommend unchecking this box, as it creates a massive draw on data
-Skype- This app reportedly (I've seen it myself) likes to sync random data and open up the network for fun. Sign out of app when not in use to fix
-GTalk- This application keeps you constantly connected to all of our google contacts across of your accounts. I have several accounts that I must maintain, and by default the application had me signed in and maintaining a connection with all of them. Open GTalk, then hit each account and sign out to neutralize this puppy. Unless of course you want to stay signed in.
7. Manage your syncing.
This is a big one, and it differs from person to person. Go to Settings>Accounts and Sync, and take a look at what's going on there. Listed app titles means that there is an account syncing data. I, for example, have four email addresses, facebook, dropbox, box, weather, etc. That is bad. You should go through and turn off syncing for nasty apps you might not have known were accessing the internet, or limit the access of apps and services that you do want to allow.
The problem lies in the way this syncing is handled. Each app/service runs on its own schedule, making it particularly likely that your phone could almost always be establishing a data connection and trying to download data for your various apps. See step 2 regarding the app Juice Defender to handle this problem.
8. Vibrate/Haptic Settings
Vibration and haptic feedback eat up a surprising amount of battery. If you have the haptic feedback enabled, then every time you press anything your phone puts out some juice to make itself dance.
Settings>Sound>Vibrate on touch
Some apps have their own haptic feedback settings, and notifications are their own set entirely.
Tips for Rooted users:
1. Try out custom kernels.
By going to the Sprint HTC One Android Development section of the forums, you can see all of the different kernels being developed. These allow for all kinds of modifications like underclocking the CPU and undervolting, both of which save battery. To see how to use them, read the FAQ's in each thread's OPs.
Here is a great guide to custom kernel's by mroneeyedboh.
2. Use Rom Toolbox Pro, SetCPU, or some CPU clocking app in compliance with whatever your custom kernel allows.
This site will explain the basics of SetCPU: http://www.setcpu.com/
-Profiles from SetCPU should usually involve these for battery life optimization:
-Screen off at the minimum clock speed for both, with the max raised on level if sluggishness is apparent
-A temperature greater than “X”
-General power related profiles that lower cpu speed at lower battery levels
(Note that setcpu has fallen off of the radar, but clocking your cpu to levels that suit your needs is still viable, although many argue that the android system's core management should best be left alone. Read up for yourself and make an educated decision)
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*Some apps or processes begin to run at startup and keep the phone awake. These apps are not detected by things like spare parts or system panel, unless sometimes represented in the "system" process, in which case its usage will be unusually high.
This shouldn't take more than three repeats, and if it does, you need to factory reset, and slowly add apps back to see what's causing the problem.
___----When it comes to people claiming 20 plus hours of moderate/heavy use out of their current setup or other ridiculous absurdities, consider my position: No matter what you do, the cellphone battery is the cellphone battery. You can tweak it and customize it with kernels, ROMs, and settings, but none of that will turn it into a car battery. The main problem (besides a false sense of pride) that leads to these reports is the misunderstanding of what the usage levels are, so here’s my best summary:
* *Light usage – Phone screen actually on for maybe 0-2 hours. Things like a few texts, some emails, 20 minutes web browsing, etc.
* *Moderate usage – You watched a few youtube videos or similar apps, sustained web browsing, hundreds of texts, some games. Hours range from about 2-5 of screen on
* *Heavy usage – LOTS of video watching and games, pictures or video recording, or some high def gaming/movie watching for at least an hour to an hour and a half in total, with lots of emails and texts, browsing, and other app shenanigans. 5+ hours
*I’m sure everyone doesn't agree with all these numbers, but this is most likely a good average of what powerusers think. All specific hourage may vary due to differences in phones, batteries, ROMs, and kernels… Which also means that most battery comparisons are pointless; it’s only what you can improve on that counts!
I’ll update this whenever I see good stuff, people remind me, or I remember/come across things I do.
Hope it helps everybody!
Hit the "THANKS" button if I help you!
Good thread, we need more informational threads like this.
Biofall said:
* *Heavy usage – LOTS of video watching and games, 3D pics or video, or some high def gaming/movie watching for at least an hour to an hour and a half in total, with lots of emails and texts, browsing, and other app shenanigans. 5+ hours
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This isn't the Evo 3d forum Bio . Good to see another 3vo user around these parts haha.
Stickied for the time being
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This isn't the Evo 3d forum Bio . Good to see another 3vo user around these parts haha.
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Haha yep!
Nice catch though, there was a lot there to change.
Hello Biofall,
I was wondering how effective is the Snapdragon BatteryGuru app from qualcomm vs juice defender if you ever tried that app before? I have used juice defender with my EVO 3D but I didn't liked the that the app was turning off Wimax even tough my phone was charging while using it.
Not only are we fighting the screen. We are fighting the quad core processor. It seems to be very aggressive.
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Well done.
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Not only are we fighting the screen. We are fighting the quad core processor. It seems to be very aggressive.
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It's aggressive when it feels the need to ramp up. When installing several apps, the damn thing actually gets hot to the point where I put it in the freezer. [edit: this is dumb according to the device's thermal protection] I know that the components shouldn't be reaching those temps....
I'm on the lookout for more info on explicit effects of the quad core on battery life and direct ways to combat it.
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Thanks! I've been scouring for empirical info for years and I owe a lot of thanks to other people.
Turn off Juice defender. In fact, uninstall it. You will see your battery life is actually improved.
Leave the quad core component alone. If the cores aren't being used, they're offline. Offline is essentially 0 power consumption. The only case I can see improving battery by disabling cores would be for games. Otherwise, its probably detrimental.
Felnarion said:
Turn off Juice defender. In fact, uninstall it. You will see your battery life is actually improved.
Leave the quad core component alone. If the cores aren't being used, they're offline. Offline is essentially 0 power consumption. The only case I can see improving battery by disabling cores would be for games. Otherwise, its probably detrimental.
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Juice defender has a large multitude of components. If some parts use more power for you, then you should post which of them you believe they were, before and after, possibly with battery graph screenshots.
On the last quad-core device that I had used there was a problem where the cores would ramp up unnecessarily for small tasks, so there is certainly a possibility for improvement.
On an unrelated note, there are other things that I want to add to this thread, including screenshots, so if anyone has anything to add, just tell me.
What I don't get is that a lot people seem to believe they know better than HTC's engineers. Doing things like forcing off cores, how do you know that's really saving power? For all you know, the power loss of enabling an extra core for a small task is insignificant to ramping up an already active core to do the same thing.
Sure there are some things you can do to improve power usage (such as avoiding wakelocks) but if you start changing numbers for how internal software power functions work, you should have some damn good reasons why. Even a graph isn't going to be terribly accurate unless you can substantiate the gains across multiple tests. Many of the improvements people mention often have an impact of less than 1% over the course of an entire charge, and that's nearly impossible to even measure. The battery percentage indicator is only an estimation and not only varies between device, but even varies based on the temperature!
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What I don't get is that a lot people seem to believe they know better than HTC's engineers. Doing things like forcing off cores, how do you know that's really saving power? For all you know, the power loss of enabling an extra core for a small task is insignificant to ramping up an already active core to do the same thing.
Sure there are some things you can do to improve power usage (such as avoiding wakelocks) but if you start changing numbers for how internal software power functions work, you should have some damn good reasons why. Even a graph isn't going to be terribly accurate unless you can substantiate the gains across multiple tests. Many of the improvements people mention often have an impact of less than 1% over the course of an entire charge, and that's nearly impossible to even measure. The battery percentage indicator is only an estimation and not only varies between device, but even varies based on the temperature!
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Sure man, sure. There are surely negatives associated with turning off, down, or generally altering core performance. However, taking the decisions that HTC engineers coupled with HTC software designers implemented for mass consumption as the best option for all users is foolish. The reason we have a development community revolves around that concept.
Several of the things I talk about have an impact in terms of hours the device can function without being plugged into an outlet, which has little to nothing to do with battery percent levels.
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Sure man, sure. There are surely negatives associated with turning off, down, or generally altering core performance. However, taking the decisions that HTC engineers coupled with HTC software designers implemented for mass consumption as the best option for all users is foolish. The reason we have a development community revolves around that concept.
Several of the things I talk about have an impact in terms of hours the device can function without being plugged into an outlet, which has little to nothing to do with battery percent levels.
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Battery percent or how long the device is on is still a hard comparison to make.
You could do the EXACT SAME THING on the phone twice, from full charge to dead, and you'd get a different length of time. Batteries aren't that consistent.
A couple things that bother me:
1. You stick the phone in the freezer because it gets warm. The phone already has thermal protections that keep it from overheating. The CPU can deal with far greater heat than you know (70C isn't even a problem). Anandtech was able to run it through the entire gauntlet of its tests (which are much harder on the device than just installing apps) without it ever triggering thermal protection. Most thermal protections exist solely for the battery's sake, which in itself can deal with 50C while charging, or even higher when not.
2. In almost all cases, it is better to let the CPU drive itself as fast and as hard as possible in order to finish tasks. Let it turn on all the cores and such. Because once it's done, it can go back into deep sleep, where everything is off. This is why almost all phones, not just HTC ones, are designed to do just that.
I agree with Felnarion's sentiment. Juice Defender is probably wasting more power just measuring your battery usage than it is helping you save.
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Sure man, sure. There are surely negatives associated with turning off, down, or generally altering core performance. However, taking the decisions that HTC engineers coupled with HTC software designers implemented for mass consumption as the best option for all users is foolish. The reason we have a development community revolves around that concept.
Several of the things I talk about have an impact in terms of hours the device can function without being plugged into an outlet, which has little to nothing to do with battery percent levels.
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Battery percent or how long the device is on is still a hard comparison to make.
You could do the EXACT SAME THING on the phone twice, from full charge to dead, and you'd get a different length of time. Batteries aren't that consistent.
A couple things that bother me:
1. You stick the phone in the freezer because it gets warm. The phone already has thermal protections that keep it from overheating. The CPU can deal with far greater heat than you know (70C isn't even a problem). Anandtech was able to run it through the entire gauntlet of its tests (which are much harder on the device than just installing apps) without it ever triggering thermal protection. Most thermal protections exist solely for the battery's sake, which in itself can deal with 50C while charging, or even higher when not.
2. In almost all cases, it is better to let the CPU drive itself as fast and as hard as possible in order to finish tasks. Let it turn on all the cores and such. Because once it's done, it can go back into deep sleep, where everything is off. This is why almost all phones, not just HTC ones, are designed to do just that.
I agree with Felnarion's sentiment. Juice Defender is probably wasting more power just measuring your battery usage than it is helping you save.
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You could do the same thing and get different results, but in reality strong trends in usage are reflected in battery life.
As for this the CPU discussion, all that I said was that I'd like to look at more in depth studies or core process handling. So it bothers me too.
In regards to JD, it won't be making it into the next revision of the thread, as I have noticed unnecessary draw. Honestly android implemented most of the vital operations into the OS, so it is mostly useless coupled with the other tips and just general awareness.
Finally, the xda app is acting up, sorry for the clutter.
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Thanks for the write up. I went from being a little unimpressed by battery life to blown away. Biggest saver from stock is dropping all the SYNC stuff. Totally unnecessary IMO. If you aren't consuming the news and updates (you know actually in the app), you probably don't need it refreshing. Still baffles me this is the from-the-factory type setup.
Phone used to eat 5-10% of my charge per hour with light use and barely make it through my "day" (~15hr away from charger). Now, after 6hrs. since it's been off the charger, I'm still at 91%.
Kill LTE and go to CDMA only if you don't have it in your area either, or it's still rolling out. Seemed to help too.
EDIT: And I should note my scores are with never letting the Data Connection completely sleep, so I can still get emails as they come in which I find important.
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Here's another tip: Go into Google Talk and make sure to sign yourself out if you don't use/care for the service.
Lauski said:
Thanks for the write up. I went from being a little unimpressed by battery life to blown away. Biggest saver from stock is dropping all the SYNC stuff. Totally unnecessary IMO. If you aren't consuming the news and updates (you know actually in the app), you probably don't need it refreshing. Still baffles me this is the from-the-factory type setup.
Phone used to eat 5-10% of my charge per hour with light use and barely make it through my "day" (~15hr away from charger). Now, after 6hrs. since it's been off the charger, I'm still at 91%.
Kill LTE and go to CDMA only if you don't have it in your area either, or it's still rolling out. Seemed to help too.
EDIT: And I should note my scores are with never letting the Data Connection completely sleep, so I can still get emails as they come in which I find important.
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Here's another tip: Go into Google Talk and make sure to sign yourself out if you don't use/care for the service.
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Solid tips man. Will update the OP. I always forget to change my mobile data to CDMA only. Also, I had three accounts signed into gtalk, which was unnecessary.
Biofall,
Nice thread.. Very very nice.
The battery issue --
When it comes to people claiming 20 plus hours of moderate/heavy use out of their current setup or other ridiculous absurdities
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While I actually agree with what you say I do feel a bit different. I base mine on previous usage.
My days really fall into one of three areas. When you get old like me you will see your days are all about the same. :crying: My heavy use is going to be someone else light day.
For me I can judge based on different phones, kernels and roms. The 4g days I needed to have a charger at my desk. There was no way I could get through a whole day regardless of how many calls I made.
Now I am judging verse the LTE I had and and very surprised on how well its holding up even on
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heavy days.
Have you had time to try this yet? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2230403
Not sure it works, like you said some of these apps just use more than they save. I am going to see what happens over the next few days and see if I can see differences.
Your Facebook and sync statement, man do those hit home! I still have a few phones at work that these guys don't get it.
Gtalk.. beh turns on when you flash a new rom.. People have to remember to go back and shut that sucker off!
Thanks for your post, I am going to show a few people this, maybe it will open their eyes.
I just bought this phone, one thing i dont know why because battery's using time is short, only 5 hours. I want to know that everyone the same as me?
You either have a n app eating thru your battery or a faulty battery.
Check in Settings/Battery. If nothing special pops out there, you might want to try a factory reset and see if that still happens.
In the past I also used GSam to get more info on battery usage.
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You either have a n app eating thru your battery or a faulty battery.
Check in Settings/Battery. If nothing special pops out there, you might want to try a factory reset and see if that still happens.
In the past I also used GSam to get more info on battery usage.
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Thanks buddy, what rom are using in phone and the time on screen'battery
Having the same issue with the same model.
Follow the 2nd post.
(SOT) Leaderboard - post your longest SOT's here 👍🏻
Looking at the OnePlus 10 pro on paper, it has everything you would possibly need to achieve incredible screen on times. The idea behind this besides some healthy competition is to whittle out the bugs and battery draining apps and habits.... in...
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Keep all social apps insta FB and WhatsApp with restrictions of background and foreground activity and keep auto launch off . That's make your battery long lasting. Keep optimization on in battery settings.
U can check other apps which are battery hungry and keep activity restricted.
Do not use always on display function.
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Follow the 2nd post.
(SOT) Leaderboard - post your longest SOT's here 👍🏻
Looking at the OnePlus 10 pro on paper, it has everything you would possibly need to achieve incredible screen on times. The idea behind this besides some healthy competition is to whittle out the bugs and battery draining apps and habits.... in...
forum.xda-developers.com
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As far as I know I am the current leader of the SOT thread with 12.5 hours SOT and 23% battery left, unfortunately I literally didn't even try to get it at first and was in 120hz 1440p (no auto switch) with no battery saver at all lol. If you want a lot of SOT you can cheese it by streaming and doing nothing else thanks to the Snapdragon 8's efficiency with video
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As far as I know I am the current leader of the SOT thread with 12.5 hours SOT and 23% battery left, unfortunately I literally didn't even try to get it at first and was in 120hz 1440p (no auto switch) with no battery saver at all lol. If you want a lot of SOT you can cheese it by streaming and doing nothing else thanks to the Snapdragon 8's efficiency with video
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That would be great. Do you have the screenshots you would need to register your sot?
As per the requirements?
If so I'll be happy to add your time
If you're experiencing rapid battery drainage with your OnePlus 10 Pro, there are a few steps that you can take to solve this issue.
First and foremost, it is important for you to understand why the battery drains quickly. There are several factors that may contribute to this problem, such as the presence of background apps running in the background without your knowledge and an inefficient power management system.
To address the first factor, reducing or disabling any applications running in the background can help improve battery performance significantly. To do so: go into Settings > App Manager > Running Apps, where you can see which apps are currently active on your device. You should close or uninstall any unnecessary apps as they consume energy even when not actively used by you.
For further improvement of your device’s power efficiency, it also helps to recalibrate its internal Power Management System (PMS). This process involves resetting how much power is allocated for different tasks on your OnePlus 10 Pro allowing it to run more efficiently and effectively utilize whatever charge remains in its unit’s battery pack while still providing optimal performance. It is recommended that this procedure be done at least once per month or after factory resets – but no more than three times per month – as excessive PMS calibrations will only lead to shorter lifespan of both software and hardware components over time instead of better performance gains and improved efficiency levels.
Finally if these two solutions fail then eventually replacing/repairing parts inside phone such as motherboard may prove beneficial for fixing Oneplus 10 pro Battery Drain Fast issue permanently however seeking professional help from authorized service centers would be necessary before attempting similar DIY repairs within home due safety related issues involved with components which are sensitive enough handle with proper care & expertise .
Some tips I've shared over the years.
Change 5G to 4G
Remove tiktok it is 100% dodgy Chinese spyware.
Remove Facebook use web based
Remove Facebook messenger use web based
Remove Twitter use web based
Remove any ad based apps pay for the pro version
Turn off gestures like lift to wake
Change from QHD to FHD (No difference)
Allow auto brightness
Turn off WiFi overnight
Turn all updates to manual not auto (play store)
Remove any so you don't use
Change back up to once a month (WhatsApp)
Turn off location history (Google)
Use titanium to remove any system apps you don't need
Don't allow anonymous usage statistics for any app ever.
Don't allow tracking cookies on any website
Use adaway (root needed)
Don't open web pages in Google app (I use Samsung browser)
Don't use xposed.
If you game you will not get high SOT scores, period.
Don't bother with battery saving apps or monitoring apps.
Streamline your apps, if you don't use it, remove it.
Don't allow WiFi scanning (as in letting other apps use it when it's not on)
Never allow personalised ads.
Never allow notifications from websites
Always decline cookies unless your absolutely have to allow some tracking (common sense prevails here)
Optimise as many apps as possible unless it affects performance.
Don't allow apps to remain open in the notification area.
Change your launcher, my preferred launcher is lawn chair and this did actually burn up some battery when compared to the OnePlus launcher.
Don't use live widgets (yes they look cool, but they annihilate your battery)
Live wallpaper, again very cool, but battery burners.
Again! Don't charge overnight, make a note of your percentage then see what it is in the morning, you shouldn't be losing more than 5% really, if you've done well then it'll be reflected here, the good SOT results will follow.
Turn off live read outs of network speed, RAM usage in the status bar.
Turn off NFC unless in use.
Leave location on in quick settings.
Don't overcharge your phone, IE: overnight
Don't allow your phone to fully deplete the battery.
Whatever anyone says, this does 100% damage batteries, there is no argument here and I won't entertain anyone who says otherwise, Ive seen through real life tests what this results in, bloated, inefficient, possibly dangerous lithium batteries.
Keep your phone out the sun.
Keep it out of extreme cold.
Keep your device clean dust free.
Snapchat, Viber, house party, apps like that tends to use more battery as they don't have great dormancy periods.
Apps like speed test by Ookla tend to have location tracking, similarly they tend to turn themselves on and off when they feel like it, my advice, install test and uninstall.
Allow a couple of battery cycles between tweaking sets, to give you an idea of how much of a difference you've made.
Use BBS to see what is being used, once you've removed problems, remove BBS.
I've just written this from the top of my head so o probably missed some things, the general idea is to keep your device clean and fresh, remove files you don't need any more.
Keep an eye on apps that misbehave or aren't wanted, index your folders so they aren't a mess.
The more good things you do means the more potentially bad apps you can have on your phone, eg if you really need Facebook, you could keep it so long as you clean up other areas of your phone.
Good luck.
When it comes to battery optimization for the OnePlus 10 Pro, version 2213, I have a few suggestions that might help you maximize your device's battery life.
Firstly, it's important to note that OnePlus devices generally come with a variety of built-in battery optimization features. To begin, make sure you have enabled the battery optimization settings on your device. You can usually find these settings in the device's "Battery" or "Power" section within the settings menu.
Additionally, I recommend keeping your device's operating system up to date. Manufacturers often release software updates that include battery optimizations and improvements. So, regularly check for updates and install them as they become available.
Another effective approach to conserving battery life is by managing your apps and their power consumption. Identify any apps that are known to drain battery excessively and either limit their usage or consider uninstalling them if they are not essential. You can find battery usage statistics in the device settings, usually under "Battery" or "Power."
Furthermore, adjusting the screen brightness and timeout settings to a level that suits your needs can significantly impact battery life. Lowering the brightness and reducing the screen timeout duration can help conserve power.
Lastly, keeping unnecessary features and connections turned off when not in use can make a difference. Features like Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and GPS can consume additional power if left enabled unnecessarily.
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When it comes to battery optimization for the OnePlus 10 Pro, version 2213, I have a few suggestions that might help you maximize your device's battery life.
Firstly, it's important to note that OnePlus devices generally come with a variety of built-in battery optimization features. To begin, make sure you have enabled the battery optimization settings on your device. You can usually find these settings in the device's "Battery" or "Power" section within the settings menu.
Additionally, I recommend keeping your device's operating system up to date. Manufacturers often release software updates that include battery optimizations and improvements. So, regularly check for updates and install them as they become available.
Another effective approach to conserving battery life is by managing your apps and their power consumption. Identify any apps that are known to drain battery excessively and either limit their usage or consider uninstalling them if they are not essential. You can find battery usage statistics in the device settings, usually under "Battery" or "Power."
Furthermore, adjusting the screen brightness and timeout settings to a level that suits your needs can significantly impact battery life. Lowering the brightness and reducing the screen timeout duration can help conserve power.
Lastly, keeping unnecessary features and connections turned off when not in use can make a difference. Features like Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and GPS can consume additional power if left enabled unnecessarily.
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Good post
Would you say the Oneplus 10 Pro is still a good phone for this year even? Very new?