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New to the Tilt

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Hi all. I have been tinkering with the tilt for a few weeks now and so far have found my answers on this forum pretty easily. I am running the ATT Tilt rom. I am on a data only plan, thru which I use slype. I have no voice plan. This leads to to want to disable the dialer, block the voice network access, or whatever I can do to make sure that this phone does not connect via the att voice net @ 45 cents a minute. Cant seem to find this little peice of info anywhere. thanks in advance for the help.

I'm guessing your best bet is just to remap the send button so it won't be able to dial if you press it not purposefully. Check the link below to see how it can be done (as the green "send" button doesn't appear in the "button" utility):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356322&highlight=map+send+button
If you use the HTC homescreen, just remove all your favorite people and you won't risk dialing them out of an unexpected screen touch.
I assume you still want to be able to place a call occasionally otherwise you would not have gotten a Tilt...
Otherwise, I don't know how to only have 3G or Edge Data on without voice/phone function...have you checked the hermes or trinity forum sections?

lawnarjax said:
First post.
Hi all. I have been tinkering with the tilt for a few weeks now and so far have found my answers on this forum pretty easily. I am running the ATT Tilt rom. I am on a data only plan, thru which I use slype. I have no voice plan. This leads to to want to disable the dialer, block the voice network access, or whatever I can do to make sure that this phone does not connect via the att voice net @ 45 cents a minute. Cant seem to find this little peice of info anywhere. thanks in advance for the help.
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I think that you can block outgoing calls in phone settings, I am sure I saw that somewhere when I was playing around with my phone settings!

How's about just removing your SIM card? ;-P

then how would he use his data plan?

Thanks for the suggestions. I use skype over the data network for my occasional calls. Works well enough to get me by with no voice plan. I will check the settings to see if I can block calls. I like the favorite people tool, but hate how it dials out if I tap the pic. Can I change the action there?

Reject calls with text message not working

In the phone options under the advanced Tab there is the option to reject calls and generate an automatic text message; has anybodt got this to work? It simply does nothing for me. Thanks.

Anybody have this issue?
Can somebody confirm that the reject calls text message generate function works on the Diamond......Mine does not and I'm wondering is there a Registry switch. Thanks.

just trying it now, but seems just to send it to the voicemail instead. Maybe we need to turn voicemail divert off first?
would try that, but for some reason, t-mobile doesn't seem to want to let me turn my diverts off!!
Anyone on another network care to try??

rhedgehog said:
just trying it now, but seems just to send it to the voicemail instead. Maybe we need to turn voicemail divert off first?
would try that, but for some reason, t-mobile doesn't seem to want to let me turn my diverts off!!
Anyone on another network care to try??
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How do you turn diverts off??...cant seem to find anywhere in the phone that gives you that option ie options like when busy divert calls, when out of range divert calls etc etc

start>settings>phone>services tab
highlight call forwarding and then tap the get settings button.
Voila, Call divert options

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start>settings>phone>services tab
highlight call forwarding and then tap the get settings button.
Voila, Call divert options
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Thanks for that...would have never guessed it would be in there lol

Btw your right, i tried to disable the voicemail feature...and it didnt work...if i press the ignore button it diverts to the voicemail...hmmm strange...

i think we need someone not on t-mobile to try it. t-mo UK is a PITA when it comes to changing stuff like voicemail settings.
Don't still have my O2 sim so couldn't try that, and am working from home for a bit today so i'm kinda stuck.
Might ask one of the guys at work to try one of our other diamonds with an orange SIM and see if that does the trick....

rhedgehog said:
i think we need someone not on t-mobile to try it. t-mo UK is a PITA when it comes to changing stuff like voicemail settings.
Don't still have my O2 sim so couldn't try that, and am working from home for a bit today so i'm kinda stuck.
Might ask one of the guys at work to try one of our other diamonds with an orange SIM and see if that does the trick....
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Its strange because on my nokia n95 8gb phone i could easily turn my voicemail on and off whenever i chose.
I did notice after i had unticked the voicemail boxes...pressed ok then exited...went back into the phone settings and saw that the boxes were ticked....as i said its strange. Because sometimes i just want the caller to hear a busy tone or the reject tone...
Hopefully someone can try with a different sim and see what happens.

it could just be that T-Mobile don't like the commands coming from the windows mobile devices then. I've only been with t-mobile since i had WM devices - about 4 years now - and i never really bothered using my other devices on the network. I think i have an old Sony Z5 around somewhere, i might charge it up and turn the voicemail off with that and then see if that helps.

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it could just be that T-Mobile don't like the commands coming from the windows mobile devices then. I've only been with t-mobile since i had WM devices - about 4 years now - and i never really bothered using my other devices on the network. I think i have an old Sony Z5 around somewhere, i might charge it up and turn the voicemail off with that and then see if that helps.
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Could be.,..i dont know as the Diamond is my first WM device that ive been impressed with enough to keep it.
Might give tmobile a call later and see what they have to say about it. Although i dont think im going to have much luck as when i rung them uip about mms settings they said they dont support Diamond..so couldnt help me out there.

that sounds about right for T-mo customer services.
If you can get past the usual shower of muppets on first level and get through to the guys in advanced connectivity in Doxford or Greenock, they should either be able to help or refer you to someone who can....
If i have to call them now, i refuse to speak to the lower levels and ask straight for advanced connectivity. Last time i got through (back in the days when i had my magician), was cos they'd changed their MMS settings. Finally got through to AC and they had me sorted in under 2 minutes! it's just the call filterers on levels 1 and sometimes 2 that cause the problems usually.

pilib said:
In the phone options under the advanced Tab there is the option to reject calls and generate an automatic text message; has anybodt got this to work? It simply does nothing for me. Thanks.
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I have flashed the German 1.93 update to my Touch Diamond without problems and the phone is working well -- however, I don´t have the "advanced" tab in the phone option!! (and before anyone asks, no I also don´t have the German "Erweitert" Tab there).
Anyone know what´s going on here?
I´d like to turn off the short vibration the phone makes when a call is established.
Thanks // Tom

Can I Use My Hero After I Cutt Off My Service

I have recently thought of leaving sprint because of there embarrassing services and was wondering if i can still use my hero with out a service provider??? if there was a program i could run on it?? I have so much money into my phone and would hate to not use it. i believe i can use the wifi part for data not sure?? but i want to make cals n stuff is there and type of hack i can use i am using fresh toast2.1. with a radio update. Thank You for the help. Sprint truely does not know how to run a company and man i bought my phone for full price!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP ME PLEASE

REDSCARFACE said:
I have recently thought of leaving sprint because of there embarrassing services and was wondering if i can still use my hero with out a service provider??? if there was a program i could run on it?? I have so much money into my phone and would hate to not use it. i believe i can use the wifi part for data not sure?? but i want to make cals n stuff is there and type of hack i can use i am using fresh toast2.1. with a radio update. Thank You for the help. Sprint truely does not know how to run a company and man i bought my phone for full price!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP ME PLEASE
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The phone doesn't just stop powering on after you cancel your service.
There are some illegal things you could do to bring it to another carrier... you can always use Data on wifi. I have read of some people using it for a simple PDA/Media player when they are done with it.
I for one am 100% happy with sprints customer service and cell service. Updating the phone could have happened quicker, but hey what do you do.
They have yet to do me wrong. Best cell company I have ever worked with and a heck of a good price.
When I left Verizon and told them I was going to Sprint and told them the price, the retentions department didn't even put up a fight because they knew they couldn't touch Sprints price.
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You may be able to use Google Voice over Wifi to place calls, but I am not sure. I doubt you would be able to recieve them since the registered phone number would be disconnected.
And my tethering with Spint is 3 times faster than it was with Verizon, and I acutally paid verizon the extra 15 a month for it....huge waste.

you could use skype to make calls over wifi
otherwise you will just have a PDA

Kcarpenter said:
You may be able to use Google Voice over Wifi to place calls, but I am not sure. I doubt you would be able to recieve them since the registered phone number would be disconnected.
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That's a no-go Ghost Ryder. I'm currently service-less and Google Voice won't route over Wifi for calls, SMS will however. Now, if you set up the proper SIP accounts, you can use your Google Voice account through those SIPs to make and receive calls via Sipdroid. Google will pull up how-to's.
As for those lesser than legal matters, that's what I'm about to do myself. Ever done it first hand?

add144 said:
That's a no-go Ghost Ryder. I'm currently service-less and Google Voice won't route over Wifi for calls, SMS will however. Now, if you set up the proper SIP accounts, you can use your Google Voice account through those SIPs to make and receive calls via Sipdroid. Google will pull up how-to's.
As for those lesser than legal matters, that's what I'm about to do myself. Ever done it first hand?
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Nope, but it doesn't look too complicated from what I have seen.
Depending on who you flash too MMS may recieve but not send, and Data may/not work.
Seems like some poeple are using better cut to route proxy info stuff through opera to achieve data.

I went through the same type of thing when I went from my touch pro to the hero. I still wanted to use my touch pro as a dedicated gps since at the time there werent any decent ones available on android. anyways, I had then went and set up a similar thing for making calls via the wifi using GV, sipgate, and I believe it was fring....I forget. Basically I would go on my phone browser to google voice, initiate the call from the website, then fring would ring on my touch pro and finish connecting the call. lawl, I just set up my brother's fiance's phone to do that since she is going to Germany for the summer this weekend...so she and my bro can talk for free (though she needs wifi which her dorm over there will have)
Ya, I definitely hear ya about Sprint.....it's funny, I get so so service in my house, yet about 2 miles down the road is a sprint store and as soon as I pull out onto the main drag BAAAAAM insta full signal >.<
As annoyed as I am I will not go back to verizon......way to rich for my blood LOL.

Here is a quick how to for the easiest way to accomplish the free calls thing via wifi. It's a little dated but the info is still good me thinks. The only thing is that you'd have to go to google.com/voice on your phone and (thankfully having all contacts synced to google) initiate the call/sms from there. To get it so you can actually dial out from the phone would require ALOT more configuring and can be annoying. So try this first, make sure it works and then if you want to get more jiggy with it, then figure out the whole "SIPSORCERY.com" thingy.
Good luck
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=100470

Thank You i am going to try and run the sipdroid and google voice idea i kinda wish there was a app too pick up a wi fi signal with increase strenght so i can use my phone everywhere instead of just home and local buisnesses lol. If you have any ideas to pick up further signals or wifi everywhere let me know also if you have and more ideas on the talk for free let me know thank you.

no dice there my friend haha, here is a thought. think of the phone as a cordless phone for home also, just keep in mind that the audio quality isn't going to be 100%. There will be a delay, there will be some compression artifacts, but hey at least its a free alternative to home phone right?
EDIT: being in a strong wifi environment will DEFINITELY help with quality as it has more umph to work with

i noticed when i read the how to guide u posted thaqt airplane mode will disable the cdma radio did it work so i can keep my battery lol?

heh, not certain. like I said, it's dated stuff not sure how to have only wifi on.

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Nope, but it doesn't look too complicated from what I have seen.
Depending on who you flash too MMS may recieve but not send, and Data may/not work.
Seems like some poeple are using better cut to route proxy info stuff through opera to achieve data.
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Well I'm actually not switching carriers. I was on a family plan, then a divorce hits, and everyone is refusing to pay the delinquent bill - point being, my phone is tied to that account and can't be used on any other account until the bill is paid. So, I'm hoping to sprinkle some voodoo magic on my Hero, then slap it on a new account with the same carrier.

I dont see why you dont convert the phone over to cricket service (if you have it) and just pay 35 dollars for talk and web. I mean minus well right?

Life After Death Of The HTC HERO Questions (Wifi,Sipdroid)

I have recently just found out there is great life after death of the celluar providers.i recently been disappointed with my celluar service (sprint) and i now programed sipdroid (SIP Calls to any number) it works great. I now have a question and hope i get many answers and replies.
1. Can a wifi security be bypassed so i can connect anywere there is wifi signal?
2. Can my Device be set up to extend a search and recieve input of the wifi signal?
3.Most Craziest Question. Is there a way (APP) to use a signal from gps or Telphone sattelites to continue using wifi anywhere?
4. Can i switch out the custom sprint Call programming with SIP calling ? Im actually working on a rom with that option but i am having much difficulties.
5.Can is there a way to catch up the delay time im having with sipdroid calls?
Im basically looking for apps to help but if it requires programming i dont mind. I paid full price for my phone and very upset with the celluar company. im not looking for a sim card hack either basically because im running a Sprint HTC HERO CDMA with fresh toast 2.1 <rooted> Please Help If you have the answer to any of my question please number them. Thank You, Ryan C.

REDSCARFACE said:
1. Can a wifi security be bypassed so i can connect anywere there is wifi signal?
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I applaud your goals, but no.
REDSCARFACE said:
2. Can my Device be set up to extend a search and recieve input of the wifi signal?
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I believe so.
REDSCARFACE said:
3.Most Craziest Question. Is there a way (APP) to use a signal from gps or Telphone sattelites to continue using wifi anywhere?
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No
REDSCARFACE said:
4. Can i switch out the custom sprint Call programming with SIP calling ? Im actually working on a rom with that option but i am having much difficulties.
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Probably
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5.Can is there a way to catch up the delay time im having with sipdroid calls?
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Yes and no. You'd need to dev some priority level into your connection, but it'd be hit and miss wrt whatever AP and the network that you'd happen to be using as to whether it would honor your priority request.

Can I please get more help and if possible websites and or apps to things that can be done on the questions please I'm trying to Get the help so I can advance. Thank you

Glad to hear you got the sipdroid thingie working. I did some searching and found the other guide I used to set it up so I don't have to go on GV website to place the outgoing call.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548405
Loddi-dah of course it was from this site hahaha. You'll see what I meant that it requires more but in the end, it works perfectly. One thing to keep in mind is that for the gv app on the phone there is an older unofficial app that isn't supported anymore BUT works just fine for our purpose imo.

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548405 THIS THE GUIE I USED TO MAKE IT WORK YOU HAVE TO VERIFY through google voice your sipgate accout its easy all you do is log into sip droid and then go to google voice add the number for sip gate to your fowarding list then it will verify by calling your phone on sipdroid so make sure you have sipdroid set up for pboxes and it will call you and enter them numbers to succesfully add it the thing i like is googlevoice allows me to use a ohio number where i recieve incoming calls and outgoing call with the google number great set up thanks to grunt. by the way you dont have to have a invite for google voice just download GV through market register and do all the steps in the website above then go to google.com/voice log in and then add your sipgate number to fowarding then delete your cell number account make sure your cell phone does not have fowarding on. lol who says you have to have a invite when your slick.
But i am still looking for programs to better our wifi service an so far i been working on tryna find a code that can scramble security for all wifi im haven little luck and still trying to find out how to extend my wifi input for further distance i need help please if you know how or know something let me know thank you. i have noticed from a buddy that from gps you can use a sattelite but it is very difficult to do with out getting caught other sattelites to im not mentioning in i personally dont know how yet but best believe if i find out ima program something with it. but as far as that goes im still trying to progress with sipdroid and the wifi and once i do get everything to gether i will post a list of what is used.

REDSCARFACE said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548405 THIS THE GUIE I USED TO MAKE IT WORK YOU HAVE TO VERIFY through google voice your sipgate accout its easy all you do is log into sip droid and then go to google voice add the number for sip gate to your fowarding list then it will verify by calling your phone on sipdroid so make sure you have sipdroid set up for pboxes and it will call you and enter them numbers to succesfully add it the thing i like is googlevoice allows me to use a ohio number where i recieve incoming calls and outgoing call with the google number great set up thanks to grunt. by the way you dont have to have a invite for google voice just download GV through market register and do all the steps in the website above then go to google.com/voice log in and then add your sipgate number to fowarding then delete your cell number account make sure your cell phone does not have fowarding on. lol who says you have to have a invite when your slick.
But i am still looking for programs to better our wifi service an so far i been working on tryna find a code that can scramble security for all wifi im haven little luck and still trying to find out how to extend my wifi input for further distance i need help please if you know how or know something let me know thank you. i have noticed from a buddy that from gps you can use a sattelite but it is very difficult to do with out getting caught other sattelites to im not mentioning in i personally dont know how yet but best believe if i find out ima program something with it. but as far as that goes im still trying to progress with sipdroid and the wifi and once i do get everything to gether i will post a list of what is used.
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If I'm decyphering your atrocious english properly, you are trying to find a way to hack through wifi security so you can steal internet access whereever you go??

chfields said:
If I'm decyphering your atrocious english properly, you are trying to find a way to hack through wifi security so you can steal internet access whereever you go??
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That's what it sounds like to me too, one of the reasons I didn't reply to the thread initially. Stealing Encrypted Wifi = not cool. Unsecured wifi = cool, steal away. if the owner wasn't smart enough to encrypt it they deserve what they get.
You probably will have very little luck breaking any wifi signal with software on our phone. Hashing out passwords is labor intensive stuff, espeically if you are just brute forcing it.
WEP is the easiest form of the encrytion to break, and very few people use it. Actually the router that I just got doesn't even support it.
WPA has been broken, but I don't know how it works.
WPA2 - Good luck pal.
If you don't know anything about network security, breaking these encryptions is pretty difficult, especially with only one device available and only from outside the network.
Typically people who do break them will use 2 or 3 devices. 1 to Inject packets - another to try and decrypt the key.
This won't turn out well for you, people don't look kindly on this....netiher does law enforcement.

chfields said:
If I'm decyphering your atrocious english properly, you are trying to find a way to hack through wifi security so you can steal internet access whereever you go??
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Kcarpenter said:
That's what it sounds like to me too, one of the reasons I didn't reply to the thread initially. Stealing Encrypted Wifi = not cool. Unsecured wifi = cool.
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Thats why I asked...maybe I misunderstood....
BTW Stealing encrypted Wifi = Theft of service.
Can't steal Unsecured Wifi...

No one asked for criticism u just best not to respond idiots u act like ur perfect I asked a question. I know how to crack just wwnnna use alll WiFi signal not theft u idiots.

REDSCARFACE said:
No one asked for criticism u just best not to respond idiots u act like ur perfect I asked a question. I know how to crack just wwnnna use alll WiFi signal not theft u idiots.
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1. I was providing information
2. In the context it was taken(go back and read your post with clear thought), you were asking how to steal services
3. Not sure what you mean by "use all wifi signal" a/b/g our phones have covered, n or n(draft) not so much.
4. I am perfect

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4. I am perfect
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This is a known GV issue across devices, I know people have had this problem on the S3, so no it's not your rom.
Sent from my S3 on Sense 5 (you jelly?)

This is not only an issue with gv, this happens from android to android or from android to iPhone regardless of having or using gv. I tested with other android phones, I phones, and multiple SMS apps, anything after the @ is dropped for some reason

I set up G Voice integration, and now when i get a call and my laptop is logged into Gmail, the call rings on the computer first, and only at the end does it ring on the phone. Is there any way to disable this, and have it just ring on the phone only... Or is this a by-product of having my Sprint number as my G Voice #? I unchecked forward to Google Chat in my G Voice settings on the laptop...
Also, what happens if i do answer via Google Chat on the laptop? Haven't tried that yet lol

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I set up G Voice integration, and now when i get a call and my laptop is logged into Gmail, the call rings on the computer first, and only at the end does it ring on the phone. Is there any way to disable this, and have it just ring on the phone only... Or is this a by-product of having my Sprint number as my G Voice #? I unchecked forward to Google Chat in my G Voice settings on the laptop...
Also, what happens if i do answer via Google Chat on the laptop? Haven't tried that yet lol
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If you do answer through Google Chat it will not ring on your phone and it will use your speakers and your mic to answer the call. You will literally answer the call on your laptop.

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If you do answer through Google Chat it will not ring on your phone and it will use your speakers and your mic to answer the call. You will literally answer the call on your laptop.
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Interesting, i might have to try that next time. I guess there is no way i could get charged for that?
Also, if i close my Gmail window when i leave the house, it will ring on my phone like normal? I have the box checked to forward calls to my Sprint phone..

yogi2010 said:
Interesting, i might have to try that next time. I guess there is no way i could get charged for that?
Also, if i close my Gmail window when i leave the house, it will ring on my phone like normal? I have the box checked to forward calls to my Sprint phone..
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Correct. It can be a little startling at times, but for the most part the Google Voice/Sprint integration works pretty well. I believe Cyanogenmod is working on a system-level Google Voice integration for receipt/sending via the stock messaging app, but if you can't wait, there's also a good AOSP-styled app called Messaging + Google Voice on the Play Store. I haven't tried it for a while (there was an annoying duplication bug where you'd receive messages twice in the app-- once over carrier, once over Google Voice, but they told me it'd be fixed soon).

Yeah, I'm pretty happy with the integration so far. I'm fine with texting the way it is, i think, because with the integration i already text thru the stock messaging app? And i like receiving texts to that number on my other phones thru the Google Voice app.... I prefer to know where the text came from lol.

yogi2010 said:
I set up G Voice integration, and now when i get a call and my laptop is logged into Gmail, the call rings on the computer first, and only at the end does it ring on the phone. Is there any way to disable this, and have it just ring on the phone only... Or is this a by-product of having my Sprint number as my G Voice #? I unchecked forward to Google Chat in my G Voice settings on the laptop...
Also, what happens if i do answer via Google Chat on the laptop? Haven't tried that yet lol
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The reason this happens is that Google Voice rings all associated devices, but the ones that are on a faster connection ring first. The computer's network connection is loads faster than Sprint's cell connection. Note that Springs 3/4G is not involved in this comparison.

rougegoat said:
The reason this happens is that Google Voice rings all associated devices, but the ones that are on a faster connection ring first. The computer's network connection is loads faster than Sprint's cell connection. Note that Springs 3/4G is not involved in this comparison.
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does this mean that calls are still coming in to the phone thru the cellular phone network, and not data? because that would be one concern for me, as i would think that a cellular phone network would be more reliable than a cellular data network. i could be wrong tho.
and how about with regards to texting... are they still coming over the phone network and not data?
thanks for the info guys! you probably know more than is shared on the Google Voice site itself.

yogi2010 said:
does this mean that calls are still coming in to the phone thru the cellular phone network, and not data? because that would be one concern for me, as i would think that a cellular phone network would be more reliable than a cellular data network. i could be wrong tho.
and how about with regards to texting... are they still coming over the phone network and not data?
thanks for the info guys! you probably know more than is shared on the Google Voice site itself.
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Yes. Phone calls still go to the cellular network, but it is a much slower send than what the internet gets. Same goes for texting from your phone.
You're phone acts as usual, but your computer has a faster connection so it'll get those things first.

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Yes. Phone calls still go to the cellular network, but it is a much slower send than what the internet gets. Same goes for texting from your phone.
You're phone acts as usual, but your computer has a faster connection so it'll get those things first.
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ah ok, and do you notice that it takes an extra few seconds to send a call from the phone, after enabling integration, or is it my imagination? maybe it has to get routed somehow?