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I am very new to this, so I am not sure what to looks for on the forum.
I generally followed instructions from Lifehacker and this forum, used androot to root my phone, done it after two days.. (finally figured out I had to downgrade my phone.. )
So now I'm rooted, I have super user access, and I have rom manager installed. Here are a couple of things I know I want to get to do:
- install froyo (as stable as possible)
- uninstall sprint crapware (the NFL, navigation and others.. who needs them)
- possibly overclocking a little by what I read, I have another battery and I'm willing to try and give overclock a "little" each time to see if it works.
Before I do anything (I backed up my current settings with rom manager), I wanted to post here and ask you guys what I should do first, and how do I restore things back to normal if something goes wrong?
Thanks a bunch!
beholder121 said:
install froyo (as stable as possible)
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Go to the development forum, you should find the latest Froyo builds out there (check my signature for the latest ;-)).
beholder121 said:
uninstall sprint crapware (the NFL, navigation and others.. who needs them)
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If you install CM, it will remove all apps anyways. If you want to know how to remove apps - there are threads all over the place for it.
Also, attached is a script I wrote to remove apps (apk). It's a very simple straightforward script. Here's what you do, create a subfolder (not needed) on your sdcard, copy the two files into the folder, update "Apps-to-remove,txt" with all the apks you want to remove (with the full path) and run the script through terminal or adb shell. This script is not needed, but just simplifies the job, that's all.
beholder121 said:
possibly overclocking a little by what I read, I have another battery and I'm willing to try and give overclock a "little" each time to see if it works.
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Goto http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756774, read through and use, as appropriate. If you use the latest build by Jaybob, you may not need any kernels from this thread, as the builds have the latest code.
Hope this helps.
beholder121 said:
Before I do anything (I backed up my current settings with rom manager), I wanted to post here and ask you guys what I should do first, and how do I restore things back to normal if something goes wrong?
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To restore everything back to "Out-of-the-box", just run the official RUU from HTC/Sprint.
Thanks Andy.
Right now I'm going through Roms (I heard good things about Cyanogen but I can't download it because their registration page is messed up..) and I tried what comes for free with Rom Manager, which almost gave me a heart attack when the phone started... fortunately I read the instructions to restoring things so I was able to get back to my old rom (whew!!)
But now, for some reason, I don't have the market app on my phone! how am I to download rom manager...
Is it possible to chat with you or someone at least for a couple of minutes as I go through this, because at this rate I won't have my phone working well until tomorrow >.>
You need to install GAPPS, once you install a ROM.
I would highly recommend CM. The builds Jaybob has put together are based on CM code, take the latest (12/08) - it's stable. BTW, it's a mediafire link, so you should be good. I just downloaded the latest, y'day... works like a charm... (Thanks JayBob and Cm and everyone - can't say that enough).
The best way to install rom is:
1. Download copy ROM and gapps to your SDcard's root
2. Reboot into recovery
3. Wipe everything - Wipe/Factory reset, Wipe cache, Wipe Dalvik Cache
4. Install ROM from zip
5. Install Gapps from zip
6. Reboot - btw, the first reboot after a rom/gapps install takes a while, so don't be alarmed.
You can PM me, if needed.
I installed that last Rom via Rom Manager, which did it pretty much automatically.. so I didn't try to install a Rom via the SD card yet.
To make things worse, the phone does not recognized it's connected to a computer at all (there is no USB icon on my phone's notification bar) so I can restore it being to old sprint crap. No Market app, no way of installing anything or communicating with the phone, my backup, when I restore it, brings back the old HTC but without the market app and as I said, no USB support.
heeeeeelllllllllppppppppppppp
Ok,
I managed to restore things back to the old Sprint RUU. I noticed the SD card was *completely* out of room, which might have messed up my backups. I still don't know where these backups reside or how much room do they take, but making sure you have enough room on the SD card is important, as I think I have learned the hard way.
Important: the RUU detected my phone and installed *even without* the usb icon or my computer treating my phone as a "usb storage device". So resorting to this option, even though annoying (have to install and gain root access all over again), is helpful to have.
Now I am going to format my SD card, which doesn't have any important information, I don't think (my documents are all backed up anywhere and try and install the CM rom from a zip file, which I'm not sure how to do yet (people like me are used to have something like setup.exe, and everything works from there...) so I'm going to read and go step by step.
ROM installation is pretty simple, once you get your recovery going... just make sure you wipe everything, as I mentioned earlier to you...
beholder121 said:
I installed that last Rom via Rom Manager, which did it pretty much automatically.. so I didn't try to install a Rom via the SD card yet.
To make things worse, the phone does not recognized it's connected to a computer at all (there is no USB icon on my phone's notification bar) so I can restore it being to old sprint crap. No Market app, no way of installing anything or communicating with the phone, my backup, when I restore it, brings back the old HTC but without the market app and as I said, no USB support.
heeeeeelllllllllppppppppppppp
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Did you reboot with the phone connected by USB, by any chance?
andythegreenguy said:
You need to install GAPPS, once you install a ROM.
I would highly recommend CM. The builds Jaybob has put together are based on CM code, take the latest (12/08) - it's stable. BTW, it's a mediafire link, so you should be good. I just downloaded the latest, y'day... works like a charm... (Thanks JayBob and Cm and everyone - can't say that enough).
The best way to install rom is:
1. Download copy ROM and gapps to your SDcard's root
2. Reboot into recovery
3. Wipe everything - Wipe/Factory reset, Wipe cache, Wipe Dalvik Cache
4. Install ROM from zip
5. Install Gapps from zip
6. Reboot - btw, the first reboot after a rom/gapps install takes a while, so don't be alarmed.
You can PM me, if needed.
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Had it not been for reading this again, I would have been waiting for a reply. This was awesome and now I am back to business. Thanks a ton for this. i now have what i need to do this on my wife's Hero. Thanks again
Let me apologize first of all as I come from 5 years of using Windows Mobile knwoing what I am doing (cooking ROMs included) and now just got my Galaxy /Android a couple weeks ago and am blank at all of it.
After messing up with some system files and (useless) stock applications (like I removed stk.apk and other stuff) I decided to do a full hardware reset as the phone started getting random crashes.
But after the full reset things only got dramatically worse. I quickly realized all the missing system apps are still missing (I thought they'd be "restored") and basically nothing works, just crashes one after the next, cant use anything.
So, a hardware system reset on the galaxy, doesnt really reset anything except user installed apps and settings... amazing
Can someone please tell me (the idiot here, I know) how to do a real full restore where all system files, all missing files and positively everything gets back in the Tab as it was originally?
What a flippin' nightmare... Thanks in advance very much!
deletion of Stk.apk causes FC's in phone and acore.
if you don't have a backup of this apk, download a rom (like Modaco or Overcome),
open with winzip and extract the Stk.zpk from system/app and push it to /system/app on your Tab using adb (remember set the permissions to 644 after push).
A hardreset NO restores deletions on /system
Note: Other files that are not deleteable in /system/app are: Browser.apk, Email.apk, TouchWiz30Launcher.apk and TwWallpaperChooser.apk
Note (2): For your convenience, i attach the Stk.apk file from Overcome-1.1.3. Try it
Note (3): In order to restore ALL system data and apps, you need to restore a full rom.
bartito said:
deletion of Stk.apk causes FC's in phone and acore.
if you don't have a backup of this apk, download a rom (like Modaco or Overcome),
open with winzip and extract the Stk.zpk from system/app and push it to /system/app on your Tab using adb (remember set the permissions to 644 after push).
A hardreset NO restores deletions on /system
Note: Other files that are not deleteable in /system/app are: Browser.apk, Email.apk, TouchWiz30Launcher.apk and TwWallpaperChooser.apk
Note (2): For your convenience, i attach the Stk.apk file from Overcome-1.1.3. Try it
Note (3): In order to restore ALL system data and apps, you need to restore a full rom.
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OK, first of all a big thanks for both file and info. Aside from the Stk.apk, the biggest thing that made me run into problems was trying to update my Contacts.apk:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907399
things didnt work out for me and even after restoring the original files (Contacts.apk and Contacts.odex) nothing really worked again, reason for wich I tried a system reset.
Now, do I need to re-root the Tab or its still rooted, and can I perform the operations easily with Root Explorer like I did before? You mentioned to use adb and set permissions to 644 after push but, sorry again for the ignorance, I have no clue what adb is nor what/how to set permissions. Pathetic to be ignorant huh?
My last 2 questions are, where could I find the original Contacts.apk and Contacts.odex and if needed a full ROM to do a total restore?... hopefully I wont need to get to that point?...
Thanks a million again.
hi,
try to download overcome-1.1.3, and extract all the deleted apk's from system/app directory. push into the /system/app in your tab.
the apk's of overcome are deodexed (you don't need the .odex files). after that, wipe your data/cache and reboot.
if this don't works, try with roto rom
bartito said:
hi,
try to download overcome-1.1.3, and extract all the deleted apk's from system/app directory. push into the /system/app in your tab.
the apk's of overcome are deodexed (you don't need the .odex files). after that, wipe your data/cache and reboot.
if this don't works, try with roto rom
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Hmmmm thanks again but I think Im beyond all this. I dont have a file manager on my system, just realized I deleted the useless stock one and had repalced it with Root Explorer and ES File Explorer. I have them on my External SD Card to install them again but withou a file manager or an app installer cant get to them. And I tried download an app installer from the Market and get Framework errors non-stop and downloads do not initialize... I think Im beyond a quick fix... how do I get my hands on a stock full ROM to restore everything... and how? What a nightmare... gotta tell you, I love Windows Mobile... I love it... never ran into anything like this in the past 5 years of using it... never...
Thanks again!
use "adb" in order to access to your tab from your desktop pc.
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use "adb" in order to access to your tab from your desktop pc.
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Cant. Dont even know if I need Kies installed or not (I did have it installed) but adb just asks me to connect the phone and thats it... its connected aready... this is desperating...
OK I did manage to connect with adb but, how to I install applications? I can navigate to my SD card where I have ES File Explorer and Root Explorer but dont seem to be able to install them... Also if i try to copy Stk.apk I get immediately an failute message... this is crazy...
OK so I managed to install ES File Explorer and Root Explorer with adb... crazy process. It seems my phone is still rooted after the reset. From the phone I copied Stk.apk back to /system/apps where it was before deleted.
But needless to say nothing got fixed... not sure if Stk.apk is now "actually" installed or just there in the folder. But still nothing works and crashes every 10 seconds... logs provider, dialer, phone, framework, contacts... its all a firework of crashes...
Given that you've hard reset your device already, you are pretty much wasting your time trying to "fix" what you broke by messing with /system, and you should really just flash another ROM.
My suggestion would be to follow the advice on this thread.
Regards,
Dave
Yeap, that what i did and it was succesfull. My only issue is that Id like to convert my Tab's file system to ext4 to improve speed and performance and then update to the 1.4Ghz OC Kernel. I have no idea how to do those 2 things... actually Im not sure I understand the difference between a ROM and a Kernel... I assume a Kernel is part of the engine of the ROM itself but I have no idea how to perform the update. I read countless threads and its all scattered info without finding one straight to the point guide on how to do it...
Thanks again
VeEuzUKY said:
Yeap, that what i did and it was succesfull. My only issue is that Id like to convert my Tab's file system to ext4 to improve speed and performance and then update to the 1.4Ghz OC Kernel. I have no idea how to do those 2 things... actually Im not sure I understand the difference between a ROM and a Kernel... I assume a Kernel is part of the engine of the ROM itself but I have no idea how to perform the update. I read countless threads and its all scattered info without finding one straight to the point guide on how to do it...
Thanks again
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Part of your problem is that you are trying to run before you can walk! Your experience with WinMo is of pretty much no use to you in the Linux/Android world, and until you get a better handle of how everything hands together you are always going to feel a little lost.
Personally, since your device is now up and running again, I'd suggest that you hold off doing anything else for while, until you get a chance to catch up with some of the basics. Once you are a little more familiar, you can then start with something simple like flashing the MoDaCo kernel (instructions here) to support EXT4, and to give you access to ClockworkMod recovery.
IMO, whilst EXT4 and O/C kernels will give you a performance boost, they are not as noticeable as jumping from a shipping ROM to one of the JMx development builds that Samsung has put out. If you are running JMI, you should already be feeling that the device has got much snappier.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Part of your problem is that you are trying to run before you can walk! Your experience with WinMo is of pretty much no use to you in the Linux/Android world, and until you get a better handle of how everything hands together you are always going to feel a little lost.
Personally, since your device is now up and running again, I'd suggest that you hold off doing anything else for while, until you get a chance to catch up with some of the basics. Once you are a little more familiar, you can then start with something simple like flashing the MoDaCo kernel (instructions here) to support EXT4, and to give you access to ClockworkMod recovery.
IMO, whilst EXT4 and O/C kernels will give you a performance boost, they are not as noticeable as jumping from a shipping ROM to one of the JMx development builds that Samsung has put out. If you are running JMI, you should already be feeling that the device has got much snappier.
Regards,
Dave
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Yes Dave you are right, right and right again!!! Thank you for the wisdom and advice!!!
The main thing I have understood with today's messy experience was that the actual ROM files are never deleted or damaged as long as you dont access them via a rooted tool and start deleting them. Now I understand that Titanium Backup, Sprint Backup (my favorite), My Backup Pro and others, only back-up and restore what the user installs on top of the ROM itself. So a full "reset" wipes all that data but leaves the ROM files as they always were. If they got damaged in the process, they'll still be damaged till a a full ROM restores all system data, now I get it.
What I still dont get is the issue of bakcing up and restoring. In Windows Mobile, a toll like SPB Backup has a simple option called FULL BACKUP and that backs-up everything on top of the ROM and then restores everything after a full reset on top of the ROM again like it was before. The problem I have with apps like Titanium Backup, Sprint Backup, My Backup Pro, etc... is that there is not a "BACKUP ALL" option... one has to backup "data", "settings", "apps" and I always feel stuff will be left behind and then not restored.
Till I find an app or way to do a simple one-click "backup everything" and then "restore evertything" I always feel vulnerable to changes I make to the Tab that may get it unstable or corrupt and then not being able to be restored properly without a full ROM Flash and then re-installing all from scratch.
With WinMo, I could do all sorts of crazy experiments and tweaking and after that, a registry restore or back-up restore would bring me back my phone to exactly like it was with all my stuff and configuration in a matter of seconds or minutes. Thats what I need to find out with this Tab/Android and then Im ready to be able to explore messing up with this knowing I can always easily go back within minutes to the state I had before with all my apps and settings.
This is what I need to learn next how to do! Trampoline without a safety net is not a good idea. Ive alwways loved WinMo for the ease of backing up and restoring whatever I was doing on my handsets withjout ever worrying to put myself at risk to loose it all. I need to learn this on Android and its definitely more intricate!
just put sdcard into your samsung tab and flash modaco kernel amd it will automatically covert to ext4, after that you can flash the 1.4ghz kernel you wanted.
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instechgainza said:
just put sdcard into your samsung tab and flash modaco kernel amd it will automatically covert to ext4, after that you can flash the 1.4ghz kernel you wanted.
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Sorry, I cant follow you. I put an SD card in and flash modaco kernel? What files do I put on the sd card for this effect?...
VeEuzUKY said:
Sorry, I cant follow you. I put an SD card in and flash modaco kernel? What files do I put on the sd card for this effect?...
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no...you need a kernel to flash via odin, you need sdcard mounted so that it will backup all files automatically while converting to ext4..head over to modaco kernel section amd follow the instruction.
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instechgainza said:
no...you need a kernel to flash via odin, you need sdcard mounted so that it will backup all files automatically while converting to ext4..head over to modaco kernel section amd follow the instruction.
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Where is the modaco kernel section you refer to? I can search for hours and find zilch... these blogs are endless...
VeEuzUKY said:
What I still dont get is the issue of bakcing up and restoring. In Windows Mobile, a toll like SPB Backup has a simple option called FULL BACKUP and that backs-up everything on top of the ROM and then restores everything after a full reset on top of the ROM again like it was before. The problem I have with apps like Titanium Backup, Sprint Backup, My Backup Pro, etc... is that there is not a "BACKUP ALL" option... one has to backup "data", "settings", "apps" and I always feel stuff will be left behind and then not restored.
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What you want is a Nandroid backup, which you can only make from a recovery image like Clockworkmod recovery.
Essentially, this does exactly what you want, but you need to flash a new kernel (e.g. the MoDaCo kernel) which supports Clockwordmod.
Regards,
Dave
bartito said:
deletion of Stk.apk causes FC's in phone and acore.
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i beg to differ about stk.apk fc's your phone. that's the first thing i delete when removing system apps with no fc's
refer to this link about having a bare bones system. stk.apk is for management of multiple sim cards
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Barebones
b0ricuaguerrero said:
i beg to differ about stk.apk fc's your phone. that's the first thing i delete when removing system apps with no fc's
refer to this link about having a bare bones system. stk.apk is for management of multiple sim cards
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Barebones
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When I delete stk.apk (for me useless useless useless) the first thing that happens immediately is that when I hang-up on a call made or received, the Tab vibrates then freezes for about 5 seconds then tells me the phone application has crashed. I tried this with 2 ROMs now as a test and its guaranteed. More even, if you use a program like SYSTEM APP REMOVER you can emulate the removal of an app by disabling it... it only takes me to disable STK and a reboot for the phone not to work. cant get rid of it, that simple
Here's a odd one!
I was using my S7 to research an issue with my Samsung LED Smart TV. I found a How To, noticed a file path at the top of the page and backed up one page. It had several links, one of which was "How to Power Cycle a Customers Network". That sounded interesting so I clicked on it.
As soon as I clicked on the link my S7 turned OFF. I turned it back ON and it was stuck on the Dell logo. I pinned holed and tried again. It stuck again.
I booted into the recovery menu and tried to boot from there but it again got stuck. I had to do a factory reset. I use My BackUp Pro with a external SD card, it wasn't that painful and other than my email to setup, I'm back up.
Anyone see anything like this before?
Here a link to the nasty page for the brave to try: http://support-us.samsung.com/cyber/popup/iframe/pop_troubleshooting_fr.jsp?idx=151038&modelname=&modelcode=&session_id=P7mLwJcB60VpLrLWp3vgvhhXtfh2XSS3p78q2QlvhT3McsST29T1%21-1964052360%211228160092%211329276619709
Went to all the links on that page with no ill effects. You're Streak was just ready for a clean install
cdzo72 said:
Went to all the links on that page with no ill effects. You're Streak was just ready for a clean install
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I just did a full factory reset around 1/7/12. Is the Android OS so fragile that it requires frequent resets? Your not running a stock S7 as I am, are you?
I suppose it was that it just shut off instead of a normal power off sequence that did the damage.
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I just did a full factory reset around 1/7/12. Is the Android OS so fragile that it requires frequent resets? Your not running a stock S7 as I am, are you?
I suppose it was that it just shut off instead of a normal power off sequence that did the damage.
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It's not fragile at all, it's about maintenance, just like a PC... you regularly need to wipe your app and dalvik caches just like you do disk cleanups and defrags on a PC.
You should clean up obsolete databases on your internal and external sd cards.... all those types of things. Many of us don't know what it is to have one single install of a ROM running for that long on our devices as we are constantly flashing updates and fixes, and a after a couple of those come around you naturally combine those into a package and flash clean from a factory reset.
But to answer your other question is no, I have never had stock ROM on any of my devices for no longer than it took me to go in and just have a peek at it to compare it to what I would be about to flash.
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It's not fragile at all, it's about maintenance, just like a PC... you regularly need to wipe your app and dalvik caches just like you do disk cleanups and defrags on a PC.
You should clean up obsolete databases on your internal and external sd cards.... all those types of things. Many of us don't know what it is to have one single install of a ROM running for that long on our devices as we are constantly flashing updates and fixes, and a after a couple of those come around you naturally combine those into a package and flash clean from a factory reset.
But to answer your other question is no, I have never had stock ROM on any of my devices for no longer than it took me to go in and just have a peek at it to compare it to what I would be about to flash.
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I'm sure that a reset must wipe everything out, true? A reset barely a month ago. Your saying that monthly maintenance is needed?
I don't reinstall Windows monthly as that's a last resort at any time.
NOt a montly factory reset, but every week or so I wipe app caches and dalvik caches and let them rebuild themselves from use.... On Froyo for the S7 this is easily done through Clockwork Mod, but in Honeycomb and ICS I use SD Maid to clean app caches and another app called DroidTeaker to wipe the dalvik cache.
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NOt a montly factory reset, but every week or so I wipe app caches and dalvik caches and let them rebuild themselves from use.... On Froyo for the S7 this is easily done through Clockwork Mod, but in Honeycomb and ICS I use SD Maid to clean app caches and another app called DroidTeaker to wipe the dalvik cache.
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Both for rooted devices and no good for me.
wptski said:
Both for rooted devices and no good for me.
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1) well I have to tell ya, an android device that aint rooted just about isn't much more than a paperweight, so I have to ask why haven't you rooted?
2) I can't remember what version you're running on your S7, freshen my memory please
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1) well I have to tell ya, an android device that aint rooted just about isn't much more than a paperweight, so I have to ask why haven't you rooted?
2) I can't remember what version you're running on your S7, freshen my memory please
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I've read, read and read then I read about some that appeared to have bricked theirs! They ask questions, get answers that are maybe too techy for the average user. Never hear that they solved the issue and I have to "assume" that they had to sent it back for service.
I've never read to date a real "Whatever for Dummies". Anyone can create a post full of links to other posts. What may seem simple to one isn't simple to another. Some have forgotten when they knew nothing.
There are probably more non-rooted S7's out there than rooted ones with perfectly happy users. Of course, there are the ones that get rooted, etc. right out of the box and a few that don't work after that too.
Like my signature states, I have a stock HC 3.2 with build 21700.
Getting back to the Android OS not being fragile. I had a misunderstanding of sdcard meant as in doing an update from sdcard which really means sdcard2 or external. I put the 514 update.pkg in the S7's internal memory. It errored and got stuck on the Dell logo. That was one factory reset because it couldn't handle that error or recover from it properly. Get a SD card and put update.pkg on the SD card. Get a file name mismatch error this time but it does reboot. Read up a bit and find something to rename to Update.pkg. Worked like a charm. Why was it case sensitive for me but maybe not for others??
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I've read, read and read then I read about some that appeared to have bricked theirs! They ask questions, get answers that are maybe too techy for the average user. Never hear that they solved the issue and I have to "assume" that they had to sent it back for service.
I've never read to date a real "Whatever for Dummies". Anyone can create a post full of links to other posts. What may seem simple to one isn't simple to another. Some have forgotten when they knew nothing.
There are probably more non-rooted S7's out there than rooted ones with perfectly happy users. Of course, there are the ones that get rooted, etc. right out of the box and a few that don't work after that too.
Like my signature states, I have a stock HC 3.2 with build 21700.
Getting back to the Android OS not being fragile. I had a misunderstanding of sdcard meant as in doing an update from sdcard which really means sdcard2 or external. I put the 514 update.pkg in the S7's internal memory. It errored and got stuck on the Dell logo. That was one factory reset because it couldn't handle that error or recover from it properly. Get a SD card and put update.pkg on the SD card. Get a file name mismatch error this time but it does reboot. Read up a bit and find something to rename to Update.pkg. Worked like a charm. Why was it case sensitive for me but maybe not for others??
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1) rooting any android device WILL NOT brick it... what the user does AFTER rooting may render it useless and them have to start all over
2) rooting the S7 is as easy as putting the Superuser7.zip file on the external sd, flashing it through Clockwork Mod and that's that, takes about 2 minutes
3) have no idea why for some their recoveries are case sensitive, but the general consensus is that the update.pkg was corrupt to begin with more than likely. I have had problems downloading zip files and update.pkg files in Chrome and Internet Explorer, Firefox consistently gives me a clean file and checksum so I have never experiences the problem. The other issue is not using the correct stock recovery for the package being flashed.
4) when you tried to flash the 514 package and it got stuck on the Dell logo, then it sounds to me you have a glitch in your inner sd, it should not have flashed anything that would make it stick at the Dell logo if there was a problem with the file, thus that may be your entire problem, you have a problem internally that just hasn't truly reared it's ugly head...
5) my personal suggestion would be to flash DJ Steve's Honeycomb R2 ROM via NVFlash, that will wipe clean the innerSD and it's partitions, so any problem there may have been would get cleared up by the process. Then if you still want to remain stock you can flash the factory recovery and flash the 514 package again after your innerSd has been reformatted by the NVFlash
6) all that sounds like a lot, I understand your point, but all in all it all takes about 30 minutes
cdzo72 said:
1) rooting any android device WILL NOT brick it... what the user does AFTER rooting may render it useless and them have to start all over
2) rooting the S7 is as easy as putting the Superuser7.zip file on the external sd, flashing it through Clockwork Mod and that's that, takes about 2 minutes
3) have no idea why for some their recoveries are case sensitive, but the general consensus is that the update.pkg was corrupt to begin with more than likely. I have had problems downloading zip files and update.pkg files in Chrome and Internet Explorer, Firefox consistently gives me a clean file and checksum so I have never experiences the problem. The other issue is not using the correct stock recovery for the package being flashed.
4) when you tried to flash the 514 package and it got stuck on the Dell logo, then it sounds to me you have a glitch in your inner sd, it should not have flashed anything that would make it stick at the Dell logo if there was a problem with the file, thus that may be your entire problem, you have a problem internally that just hasn't truly reared it's ugly head...
5) my personal suggestion would be to flash DJ Steve's Honeycomb R2 ROM via NVFlash, that will wipe clean the innerSD and it's partitions, so any problem there may have been would get cleared up by the process. Then if you still want to remain stock you can flash the factory recovery and flash the 514 package again after your innerSd has been reformatted by the NVFlash
6) all that sounds like a lot, I understand your point, but all in all it all takes about 30 minutes
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The same PKG file was used both times. I'll throw another oddity at you. I was unable to edit update.pkg to Update.pkg either using File Expert with the S7 or while connected to my PC. I'd edit, hit return and it always reverted back. I actually deleted it from the S7, changed the name from Windows then connected and copied it back. Later on while trying this from ES File Explorer a thing popped up, something about try different name or other. Sure enough, it doesn't allow just case changes. You have to rename it different and back again if you just wanted a case change.
I'm going to save your suggestions.
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The same PKG file was used both times. I'll throw another oddity at you. I was unable to edit update.pkg to Update.pkg either using File Expert with the S7 or while connected to my PC. I'd edit, hit return and it always reverted back. I actually deleted it from the S7, changed the name from Windows then connected and copied it back. Later on while trying this from ES File Explorer a thing popped up, something about try different name or other. Sure enough, it doesn't allow just case changes. You have to rename it different and back again if you just wanted a case change.
I'm going to save your suggestions.
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Then you definitely had/have a corrupt package and the renaming is a sign of a read only problem trying to surface sounds like to me
Hi everybody!
I rooted my Nook Color about two years ago and never looked back (that was two weeks after launch day...I think it was 2.1 Eclair back then). The other day I was futzing about and deleted all my system data. Gak. I attempted to restore using Clockwork Recovery, but alas, I didn't realize until too late that my "newest" backup was from April of 2011. In retrospect, I should have tried to restore from my weekly Titanium Backup, first. As it turns out, the old Clockwork image overwrote the Titanium backup. Bummer.
Anyway, after the restore, the Nook still works perfectly with Google Market et al, but can no longer download any of my purchased books (and the Store doesn't work, either). It has my "Owner Name" and "Account" info correct in "Settings -> Device Info -> About Your NOOKcolor" but I get an error when trying to sync ("nook color internal error exception executing the command").
Is there a way to repair the damage I've done without taking the device back to the stock firmware, wiping it clean, and starting all over from scratch?
If I *do* have to start over, what's the latest and greatest STABLE way of rooting a Nook Color these days?
Any thoughts are much appreciated!
riffrafff said:
Hi everybody!
I rooted my Nook Color about two years ago and never looked back (that was two weeks after launch day...I think it was 2.1 Eclair back then). The other day I was futzing about and deleted all my system data. Gak. I attempted to restore using Clockwork Recovery, but alas, I didn't realize until too late that my "newest" backup was from April of 2011. In retrospect, I should have tried to restore from my weekly Titanium Backup, first. As it turns out, the old Clockwork image overwrote the Titanium backup. Bummer.
Anyway, after the restore, the Nook still works perfectly with Google Market et al, but can no longer download any of my purchased books (and the Store doesn't work, either). It has my "Owner Name" and "Account" info correct in "Settings -> Device Info -> About Your NOOKcolor" but I get an error when trying to sync ("nook color internal error exception executing the command").
Is there a way to repair the damage I've done without taking the device back to the stock firmware, wiping it clean, and starting all over from scratch?
If I *do* have to start over, what's the latest and greatest STABLE way of rooting a Nook Color these days?
Any thoughts are much appreciated!
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That CWM restore should not have wiped out your Titanium Backup backup files. They should still be on sdcard or emmc media, wherever you saved them. It may have wiped out the installation files but not the backup files. Reinstall TB and see if the backups are still there.
And the best way to start over is to flash the latest ROM (1.4.3) and use Manual Nooter 5.08.20 to root it. Get a cwm flashable version of 1.4.3 in the link in my tips thread linked in my signature. Look at item A15.
Sent from my Nook Color running CM10 and Tapatalk.
Trying to restore from the old Titanium files was a no-go. Even tried from a backup on a different SD card (August 2012)... same result. Tried deleting the /data/system/accounts.db file and rebooting; that just removed my BN login info AND Google login.
So, I've decided to try your suggestion and have run the format 5-6-7 zip file from CWM, and then your 1.4.3 file, also from CWM. So far so good. Many thanks.
Any caveats I need to watch for from here going forward? I have re-registered with BN, and everything looks good.
At this point, I'm faced with some options. From the "Manual Nooter 5.08.20" page, I see:
1. Download one of the Following ManualNooter 5 files based on your needs:
*manualnooter-5.08.20.basic.zip - It doesn't include apps2sd support, and doesn't block B&N updates. Doesn't replace any system files
*manualnooter-5.08.20.basic.block_updates.zip - It doesn't include apps2sd support, but has B&N updates blocked. Doesn't replace any system files
*manualnooter-5.08.20.apps2sd.zip - Includes apps2sd support, but doesn't block B&N updates. It will replace a system file, making it firmware version specific
*manualnooter-5.08.20.apps2sd.block_updates.zip - Includes apps2sd support, and has B&N updates blocked. It will replace a system file, making it firmware version specific.
If you will be flashing with apps2sd support, you will also need to download one of the following kernel images to fully utilize apps2sd support.
Dalingrin OC kernel - Dalingrin 090111 OC kernel
OR Stock kernel - Stock. kernel with apps2sd support
Phew! I assume there are advantages/disadvantages with the firmware-specific stuff? I also assume that BN updates have the potential to wreak havoc with a rooted Nook? I further assume "OC" stands for Over-Clocked?
Which combination would you recommend?
Thanks again!
I would use the basic but block updates. No apps2sd.
leapinlar said:
I would use the basic but block updates. No apps2sd.
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CWM seems to be gone. Do I need to re-install it in order to load "manualnooter-5.08.20.basic.block_updates.zip?"
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CWM seems to be gone. Do I need to re-install it in order to load "manualnooter-5.08.20.basic.block_updates.zip?"
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Installing the stock rom erased it. It is best if you make a bootable SD with CWM on it. See item A10 in my tips thread.
Got it. Running Verygreen's agnostic image with the newest nightly of 7.2. Wow. Things have really changed in the last two years! I can barely find my way around. The learning curve begins. Now I'm trying to find the "gapps...zip" file. From this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957 it says this link should take me there...
"Go to http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.ph...Latest_Version and at the end there is a table with various google apps versions. Get the one suitable for your cyanogen version (CM7 is the latest for now). The file is named gapps-....zip."
Link: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Latest_Version
I dunno. Not seeing it. More searching is called for. :good:
Okay, found the gapps stuff at http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Latest_Version/Google_Apps
...the world is bright and gay again! Happy, happy, joy, joy.
Coolness. Thanks for your help. Now to see if I can't finger out some of this new-fangled stuff!
Everything seems to be working, except I cannot create any CWM backups. Telling ROM Manager to "Backup Current ROM" results in the device rebooting into a short Linux boot that appears to attempting to run "gapps installer." Then it shuts down. I can get to a boot menu with the home and power buttons held down, but it's not the CWM menu. From your post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21885572#post21885572 I guess that CWM doesn't really exist now, but only the Verygreen script. So I guess it's not possible to backup the ROM this way?
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Everything seems to be working, except I cannot create any CWM backups. Telling ROM Manager to "Backup Current ROM" results in the device rebooting into a short Linux boot that appears to attempting to run "gapps installer." Then it shuts down. I can get to a boot menu with the home and power buttons held down, but it's not the CWM menu. From your post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21885572#post21885572 I guess that CWM doesn't really exist now, but only the Verygreen script. So I guess it's not possible to backup the ROM this way?
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To back up... shut nook down... take SD out and put it in computer... use win32diskimager or winimage to create an image of the SD
DizzyDen said:
To back up... shut nook down... take SD out and put it in computer... use win32diskimager or winimage to create an image of the SD
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Thanks. I'll try that, excepting that I'll use 'dd' seeing as how I don't do Windows.
riffrafff said:
Everything seems to be working, except I cannot create any CWM backups. Telling ROM Manager to "Backup Current ROM" results in the device rebooting into a short Linux boot that appears to attempting to run "gapps installer." Then it shuts down. I can get to a boot menu with the home and power buttons held down, but it's not the CWM menu. From your post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21885572#post21885572 I guess that CWM doesn't really exist now, but only the Verygreen script. So I guess it's not possible to backup the ROM this way?
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You can use my modified CWM to do nandroid backups of the SD install. Look in my tips thread linked in my signature and look at item B5.
leapinlar said:
You can use my modified CWM to do nandroid backups of the SD install. Look in my tips thread linked in my signature and look at item B5.
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Cool. I'll do that. Thanks! :good:
Hi to all
I went to Samsung Thailand yesterday to have check to see if by battery was replaceable under warranty and to make a very long story short the Tech managed to soft brick? my note by constantly pulling out the usb cable from the bottom of the phone while the unit was powering down and up. Their response "Sorry about that but we will repair it by replacing your Main board but you have lost your data" WTF !!!
So now my note starts to boot but per normal but gets to the pulsating Samsung Logo and hangs and keeps pulsating then the top rear of the phone gets quite hot after a few minutes. I can boot into download mode Vol dwn+ pwr and recovery mode. The phone had no issues apart from the battery so understandably I'm not happy.
Okay I need some advice as I dont want to loose my data particularly:crying: the photos and sms (dont we all) and am in desperate need of some good advice and directions
Oh I forgot my note was stock running the latest version of JB
1. Can i try to flash a new rom? If so how? (point me in the right direction)
2. Will I loose my data? Particularly sms and photos?
3. Does the unit heat up mean the fried the MB?
I appreciate any and all your time and responses..
Many thanks
Why didn't you accept the nice offer for replacing the mainboard?
(I did when they repaired my display in Samsung Udon Thani)
If you want to save your data you should install a Custom Rom with no-wipe.
Thank you
ThaiDai said:
Why didn't you accept the nice offer for replacing the mainboard?
(I did when they repaired my display in Samsung Udon Thani)
If you want to save your data you should install a Custom Rom with no-wipe.
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Thank you Thai Dai
I'm more than happy for them to replace the main board but they said I will loose all my data and dont want to try to recover the problem they caused.
So I would like to attempt to perhaps flash the rom again in an attempt to save the data, I'm looking for advice on the correct procedure... The Jb update was done via KIES.
Thank you I appreciate your reply, any easy way to flash the rom? Just download and image go into download mode a flash via odin?
Arg still no success
life_trax said:
Thank you Thai Dai
I'm more than happy for them to replace the main board but they said I will loose all my data and dont want to try to recover the problem they caused.
So I would like to attempt to perhaps flash the rom again in an attempt to save the data, I'm looking for advice on the correct procedure... The Jb update was done via KIES.
Thank you I appreciate your reply, any easy way to flash the rom? Just download and image go into download mode a flash via odin?
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I tried re-flashing the original rom using odin. It installs successfully but when it unpacks and reboots it hangs in the same spot (the pulsating Samsung logo) Any ideas?
Many thanks :crying:
life_trax said:
I tried re-flashing the original rom using odin. It installs successfully but when it unpacks and reboots it hangs in the same spot (the pulsating Samsung logo) Any ideas?
Many thanks :crying:
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You made a "dirty" install because the original Rom was a no-wipe Rom.
I think you should install a Kernel from Philz thread. Take the latest for LT4. Install it and reboot into recovery.
Then clean cache/dalvik cache and make a factory reset.
After that you can install any Custom Rom from this recovery you want.
Thank you
ThaiDai said:
You made a "dirty" install because the original Rom was a no-wipe Rom.
I think you should install a Kernel from Philz thread. Take the latest for LT4. Install it and reboot into recovery.
Then clean cache/dalvik cache and make a factory reset.
After that you can install any Custom Rom from this recovery you want.
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Dear ThaiDai
Thank your for your helpful reply, and sorry about the following questions as I'm starting to feel little out of my depth
Just checking the procedure as follows:
Step 1: I have downloaded the tar file PhilZ-cwm6-XXLT4-OXA-4.93.6.tar .. I then use ODIN to flash it per normal.. ( I think if I understand it my phone is then rooted)
Step 2: I reboot into recovery , clean the cache partition and do a factory reset ( wont this delete the data i'm try to recover? )
Step 3: Will this then allow for me to access my files ? or do I then still have to install a new rom?
Step 4: Then I reinstall the stock Samsung rom? and have access to the data?
Again Thanks for your time and patience, much appreciated
life_trax said:
Dear ThaiDai
Thank your for your helpful reply, and sorry about the following questions as I'm starting to feel little out of my depth
Just checking the procedure as follows:
Step 1: I have downloaded the tar file PhilZ-cwm6-XXLT4-OXA-4.93.6.tar .. I then use ODIN to flash it per normal.. ( I think if I understand it my phone is then rooted)
Step 2: I reboot into recovery , clean the cache partition and do a factory reset ( wont this delete the data i'm try to recover? )
Step 3: Will this then allow for me to access my files ? or do I then still have to install a new rom?
Step 4: Then I reinstall the stock Samsung rom? and have access to the data?
Again Thanks for your time and patience, much appreciated
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You need to be a little more clear.
Factory reset will clear app data, but will leave the data in your internal memory card intact.
Which one do you want to save, app data or internal card data?
I don't think we'll be able to save app data although Thai dai is more experienced, he may know of something.
Thank you
warfareonly said:
You need to be a little more clear.
Factory reset will clear app data, but will leave the data in your internal memory card intact.
Which one do you want to save, app data or internal card data?
I don't think we'll be able to save app data although Thai dai is more experienced, he may know of something.
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Thank you warfareonly for your response
It was the app data NOT the Apps that's important... Particularly SMS,and photos which had contact details on a recent business trip. (i'm just not sure where they are stored by default)
From my understanding is flashing a rom doesn't delete the app data as it's effecting the rom only..
AS opposed to a factory reset which wipes the apps and app data (which I'm trying to avoid)
Many thanks I appreciate your reply
/data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
That is where SMS are stored. Boot into recovery, go to mounts and storage, Mount /data, attach mobile to PC and copy the above file to your PC.
Your pictures will survive the factory reset as they are stored on the memory card directly and not in the /system or /data partition.
P.S. make sure you have Samsung drivers installed.
Later, simply copy back the file to mobile.
P.P.S I'll be offline for 3 hours, any more difficulties, we'll solve later.
Thank you! whats next?
warfareonly said:
/data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
That is where SMS are stored. Boot into recovery, go to mounts and storage, Mount /data, attach mobile to PC and copy the above file to your PC.
Your pictures will survive the factory reset as they are stored on the memory card directly and not in the /system or /data partition.
P.S. make sure you have Samsung drivers installed.
Later, simply copy back the file to mobile.
P.P.S I'll be offline for 3 hours, any more difficulties, we'll solve later.
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Thanks warefaronly
I booted into recovery and plugged in my phone my pc shows connected as samsung but I cant access the memory on my phone.
My screen shows (phone)
Confirm and wipe all your data?
THIS cannot be undone.
No
No
No
No
No
No
No
Yes .... Delete all your data
No
No
No
You have an external sd card in the phone ? And a way to read the data off the sd card ? If not,then procure both,I have a roundabout idea.
Follow these steps:
1.)Install Philz kernel & reboot to recovery
2.)Take a backup of the ROM.
3.)Take out the sdcard,mount it on a laptop/PC/whatever and go here G:\clockworkmod\backup (where G is drive letter of your card)
4.)If there are more than one folders over there, open the latest one.
5.)There must be a file called [data.ext4.tar.a] without brackets,of course.Rename it to [data.ext4.tar]
6.)Open up the archive and go here /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/
7.)Extract the whole databases folder and keep it somewhere safe.
Now, we have 2 options- Try to install a new ROM and restore the sms OR access the sms on PC.
Luckily, we can do both
M1)Install new ROM
Install any ROM.I suggest going with SlimBean whenever coming out of a brick.It is only 80mb, therefore light as hell.Don't go with a heavy ROM(~700 MB)
Now paste the databases folder to /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/
Reboot to recovery and fix permissions (look around,you'll find the option, I don't remember where it is right now :silly
Check if you have your messages back.
M2)View directly on PC
Download SQlite Database browser
Open up the mmssms.db file in the databases folder with it.
Select the browser data tab and choose words_content table from the dropdown list.
There, now you have a list of all the messages you sent.
Don't forget the thanks button
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you!!
I now have a copy of the database... however I cant seem to read then the file is large I can see carriers and various types of information but not the sms.
So I will go with installing a new rom.
Is there anything I should do before trying to install the new rom eg wipe cache etc.
THANKS HEAPS!! you answers have been extremely helpful
life_trax said:
Thank you!!
I now have a copy of the database... however I cant seem to read then the file is large I can see carriers and various types of information but not the sms.
So I will go with installing a new rom.
Is there anything I should do before trying to install the new rom eg wipe cache etc.
THANKS HEAPS!! you answers have been extremely helpful
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Just follow the installation instructions on the ROM page. Also, I will again advise you to use a light ROM. If you want touchwiz, pristine is the lightest ROM I know. If aosp, then try slimbean or asylum.
Next time you can backup your sms&mms with samsung account. You can backup photos with Dropbox.That's why we have this option on the phone. Pictures are originally (if you didn't changed this in camera settings)stored to internal sd in DCIM folder and it will not be deleted after factory reset (only after "format internal memory" command in settings or in recovery. BTW,pictures&music is not an app data.App data are app settings,games progress&scores,etc...
...from SG NOTE N7000 with Tapatalk 2
Almost there!! Thank you!!!. Just a few more steps?
:fingers-crossed:
warfareonly said:
Just follow the installation instructions on the ROM page. Also, I will again advise you to use a light ROM. If you want touchwiz, pristine is the lightest ROM I know. If aosp, then try slimbean or asylum.
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:fingers-crossed: Okay ...So far so good.. I copied the original rom. Did a factory reset and to my surprise the factory rom booted to stock... (rooted of course) So surprised!! :good::good:
However it's the next step I'm a little confused on.. Should I then make a copy of this rom add the necessary telephony files to it... then re-flash it as it then has the missing data and fix permissions or is there something I am missing? (sorry to sound so stupid)
Again THANK YOU!! your answers have been spot on... I appreciate all your time
life_trax said:
:fingers-crossed:
:fingers-crossed: Okay ...So far so good.. I copied the original rom. Did a factory reset and to my surprise the factory rom booted to stock... (rooted of course) So surprised!! :good::good:
However it's the next step I'm a little confused on.. Should I then make a copy of this rom add the necessary telephony files to it... then re-flash it as it then has the missing data and fix permissions or is there something I am missing? (sorry to sound so stupid)
Again THANK YOU!! your answers have been spot on... I appreciate all your time
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Sorry, I was preoccupied :silly:
Just follow the m1 method from the eleventh post. Since you already have a working ROM, simply copy the databases folder to where its supposed to be.