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I'm not new to flashing custom roms in the WinMo world but, I just got my Hero like 3 days ago. I have searched and read about everything here so far and from what I have read the reason for flashing custom roms is SPEED and CUSTOMIZATION.
Well, I have flashed twice and ended up re-rooting and going back stock. I'm not trying to take anything away from the developers because I know it's hard work. I did it with my old TP with WinMo for a couple of years. When I flashed my custom WinMo roms they where ALWAYS faster than any stock rom.
HOWEVER it seems to me like none of these roms for the Hero are ready for prime time yet and from what I'm reading all of the decent developers have crossed over to the Evo so the chance of us getting some decent roms in minimal at best.
So my question is should I just wait till something is released that is more stable or should I cross over as well? AGAIN I'm not trying to take anything at all away from the developers. I expected some differences coming from WinMo. I just wanted to know if anyone else felt the same way. If not, what rom are you running? Is it faster than the stock .6 rom from sprint? Does the camera work?
What ROMs did you try? I've used DamageControl and am now on Darchdroid and have had no issues on either. Both run way faster and have way better battery life than stock. Everything works. There are tons of members here that would say the same thing...
What ROMs have you tried? Any ROM with an overclocked kernel will be faster than stock. All current ROMs also have working camera.
Are you waiting until everything finishes syncing? The first 20 minutes of your ROM experience will be a little slow as it pulls down whatever info you plugged in for Google/Facebook/Twitter/etc., but once that's done your custom ROM will be smooth sailing. I've used Fresh 2.0d, 2.1.2, PureHero, and now DarchDroid 2.7 and they've all been substantially faster than stock. Especially with OC and JIT, there's a tangible difference.
I'd trying something again and let everything sync up. I've been impressed by DarchDroid, but I'm also an AOSP fan.
What roms have you tried?
I use Buufed 2.0b and it is very fast. I used FreshToast 2.1, which was also fast until I jacked with the settings. Others are also fast as well.
If you are describing the first boot after flashing a rom, that may be because dalvik-cache needs to be built...this take a few minutes to do, but it is a one-time thing (unless you move to another rom or wipe your dalvik-cache).
abadasstanker69 said:
I'm not new to flashing custom roms in the WinMo world but, I just got my Hero like 3 days ago. I have searched and read about everything here so far and from what I have read the reason for flashing custom roms is SPEED and CUSTOMIZATION.
Well, I have flashed twice and ended up re-rooting and going back stock. I'm not trying to take anything away from the developers because I know it's hard work. I did it with my old TP with WinMo for a couple of years. When I flashed my custom WinMo roms they where ALWAYS faster than any stock rom.
HOWEVER it seems to me like none of these roms for the Hero are ready for prime time yet and from what I'm reading all of the decent developers have crossed over to the Evo so the chance of us getting some decent roms in minimal at best.
So my question is should I just wait till something is released that is more stable or should I cross over as well? AGAIN I'm not trying to take anything at all away from the developers. I expected some differences coming from WinMo. I just wanted to know if anyone else felt the same way. If not, what rom are you running? Is it faster than the stock .6 rom from sprint? Does the camera work?
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Its not like the developers left along time ago. All of them pushed out a final release before they left, and it was only 2 devs.
Also, they all run smoother then stock. Have you tried damagecontrol? Or try ANY of the overclocked roms. You can get OC on any rom now with separate flashable kernels.
Darchdroid is also the most basic rom you can use, but not basic in the area of customization. Its the only rom not built on htc framework, so there is close to zero bloat and it runs extremely smooth.
abadasstanker69 said:
I'm not new to flashing custom roms in the WinMo world but, I just got my Hero like 3 days ago. I have searched and read about everything here so far and from what I have read the reason for flashing custom roms is SPEED and CUSTOMIZATION.
Well, I have flashed twice and ended up re-rooting and going back stock. I'm not trying to take anything away from the developers because I know it's hard work. I did it with my old TP with WinMo for a couple of years. When I flashed my custom WinMo roms they where ALWAYS faster than any stock rom.
HOWEVER it seems to me like none of these roms for the Hero are ready for prime time yet and from what I'm reading all of the decent developers have crossed over to the Evo so the chance of us getting some decent roms in minimal at best.
So my question is should I just wait till something is released that is more stable or should I cross over as well? AGAIN I'm not trying to take anything at all away from the developers. I expected some differences coming from WinMo. I just wanted to know if anyone else felt the same way. If not, what rom are you running? Is it faster than the stock .6 rom from sprint? Does the camera work?
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I am running Darchdroid and recommend you do too. It is faster than the most fastidious fast rom.
I don't wanna put anyone out there and I can't really remember the specific ones I tried but one that stood out was here
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683746
Everyone kept saying great things about a "fresh" rom so I figured that was it. When I used it the thing ran slow, my camera didn't work, and my picture messages wouldn't come in.
I was going to use another one but, I just thought it was a relatively new phone so maybe there wasn't sufficient work done yet
thatjerk said:
I am running Darchdroid and recommend you do too. It is faster than the most fastidious fast rom.
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Yeah, I am going to agree. As far as overall speed, Darchdroid is the best. I'm also partial to Launcherpro over the included ADWLauncher. I have 7 homescreens full of stuff and it still runs fine.
Which version of Fresh did you use? I've had some issues with the earlier 2.x versions, but it's been pretty stable since 2.0d.
EDIT: FreshToast...I've ran that one for the longest time. The only time it would go slow on me is when I jacked with the settings in SetCPU.
abadasstanker69 said:
I don't wanna put anyone out there and I can't really remember the specific ones I tried but one that stood out was here
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683746
Everyone kept saying great things about a "fresh" rom so I figured that was it. When I used it the thing ran slow, my camera didn't work, and my picture messages wouldn't come in.
I was going to use another one but, I just thought it was a relatively new phone so maybe there wasn't sufficient work done yet
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Check out how fast this is..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&sns=em
wow such fast responses! lol
Sorry if I stepped on any toes but, I just tried a couple and got results that where no where near the instantaneous difference you got in the WinMo world. Maybe I should have stuck with it for a while longer....
I did have a little info up on Facebook but I REFUSE to twitter!! LMAO The contacts I have are numerous so maybe that's a contributing factor. I'm not sure. I really wanted a Froyo rom but, from what I understand, it's still in Beta.
I really just want something fast and reliable. I often use my bluetooth for HOURS on end so something less harsh on the battery would also be extremely helpful.
I will try whatever suggestions you guys have. I know you have been in the Android world way longer than me. I had XDAndroid on my TP but this is a dramatic difference.
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Check out how fast this is..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&sns=em
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LMAO I got RickRoll'D
abadasstanker69 said:
I don't wanna put anyone out there and I can't really remember the specific ones I tried but one that stood out was here
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683746
Everyone kept saying great things about a "fresh" rom so I figured that was it. When I used it the thing ran slow, my camera didn't work, and my picture messages wouldn't come in.
I was going to use another one but, I just thought it was a relatively new phone so maybe there wasn't sufficient work done yet
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Camera works in that ROM. If you had another experience, something was done wrong.
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Check out how fast this is..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&sns=em
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Well played, sir. If you want to watch a real benchmark of Freshtoast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byhykf6D6m4
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Camera works in that ROM. If you had another experience, something was done wrong.
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I don't see how I could have "done it wrong" I mean it's pretty self explanatory. I opened the camera app and got a broken TV set in purple and blue on my screen. Everything else worked....just slowly. Maybe a bad download.....maybe. I don't know. But how could someone possibly flash wrong and still get it to run? That makes no sense.
abadasstanker69 said:
I don't see how I could have "done it wrong" I mean it's pretty self explanatory. I opened the camera app and got a broken TV set in purple and blue on my screen. Everything else worked....just slowly. Maybe a bad download.....maybe. I don't know. But how could someone possibly flash wrong and still get it to run? That makes no sense.
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You need to make sure you wipe in recovery before flashing a new ROM. It sounds like that could possibly be the issue.
illogic6 said:
You need to make sure you wipe in recovery before flashing a new ROM. It sounds like that could possibly be the issue.
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I never read anything about that! lol wow I feel like such a noob. Do i do that from the menu that pops up when restarting? The one I update the custom rom from?
illogic6 said:
Well played, sir. If you want to watch a real benchmark of Freshtoast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byhykf6D6m4
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that's just sexy
abadasstanker69 said:
I never read anything about that! lol wow I feel like such a noob. Do i do that from the menu that pops up when restarting? The one I update the custom rom from?
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Yes. Wipe data, dalvik-cache, and sd-ext if you have one.
Flash the custom ROM. When it loads sign into your gmail and give it 5ish minutes to synch your calendar/contacts/mail from the cloud. Once that is completed, you'll want to head to the market and grab "overclock widget" and make sure you're clocked to appropriate speeds.
From then on, the speed improvement should be obvious.
Let me just say.. I HATE the stock rom on the cappy. I always get force close errors and the phone always lags/freezes. I thought that when they released 2.2 it might get better. It didn't... Does anyone know of a rom that might be the best for performance speed so I don't have these issues anymore? I checked into Firefly and Cyganomod 7 and they both look really nice.
Also, is there a way you can preview a rom before you install it? I saw a thread about being able to do so on the HD2, but on that thread, they said that is the only phone you can do it on..
I'm sorry if these are kind of nooby questions, but I am a flashing newb and would like to get some help before I do harm to my phone..
Most people are going to tell you to read and I would also suggest that.... as far as roms go, phoenix, firefly, supernova are all very good. If you want something more like stock then there is cognition and fusion.
Just try to read up on the roms as each will be a little different.
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Frank the Funkasaurus Rex said:
Most people are going to tell you to read and I would also suggest that.... as far as roms go, phoenix, firefly, supernova are all very good. If you want something more like stock then there is cognition and fusion.
Just try to read up on the roms as each will be a little different.
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Thanks Frank. I like the layout of the cappy stock, but it's just too damn slow for me..
Continuum is my choice right now. VERY stock look in the unthemed version.
Most of the roms have screen shots of their opening page(OP). As far as performance/battery life/etc, that varies with each phone and its user.
As a beginner, I (and so would most others)would recommend staying away from CM7 (and MIUI and Darky's). They are multi step flashing processes where just ONE tiny mistake can cause someone to start drinking again(after they pull their hair out).
Do research. Most of the roms have threads in the Development Section. Begin reading aboiut them from page 1. There is also a thread just for those new to rom flashing in the Development Section. READ IT.
Good Luck. If Ihave helped in any way, please don't forget about the thank you button.
Vgamer989 said:
Let me just say.. I HATE the stock rom on the cappy. I always get force close errors and the phone always lags/freezes. I thought that when they released 2.2 it might get better. It didn't... Does anyone know of a rom that might be the best for performance speed so I don't have these issues anymore? I checked into Firefly and Cyganomod 7 and they both look really nice.
Also, is there a way you can preview a rom before you install it? I saw a thread about being able to do so on the HD2, but on that thread, they said that is the only phone you can do it on..
I'm sorry if these are kind of nooby questions, but I am a flashing newb and would like to get some help before I do harm to my phone..
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If you ever need more help than reading, google Mobile TechVideos. The guy makes very clear vids on how to flash a ROM and also shows you different one (he has quite a few videos). I use Phoenix 7.3 myself and it's beautiful - Firefly and Supernova are just as nice IMO.
As others mentioned, really take time and read alot!
I personally like Paragon RC6....great fast, stable ROM!
Like said above, stay away from CM7, not for beginners, and still Beta!
READ...READ...READ the forums on the various Roms!
Thanks for the advice everyone. I found a sticky guide for flashing that I will use to help me. I also decided on going with FireFly 2.7. I just wish there was really a way to preview the rom on the cappy like you can on the HD2.
But again, thanks everyone for your help!
Vgamer989 said:
Thanks Frank. I like the layout of the cappy stock, but it's just too damn slow for me..
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If you like the stock cappy look and feel, definitely try out cognition. very default with all bloats removed with added speed and stability. good luck
there is no competition with cm7 when it comes to speed.
its the fastest you'll ever get on your cappy.. you must try it.
if speed is the most important thing you look for, cm7 is the best fit
bluemoon1221 said:
there is no competition with cm7 when it comes to speed.
its the fastest you'll ever get on your cappy.. you must try it.
if speed is the most important thing you look for, cm7 is the best fit
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Yeah, as long as you don't mind a camera that almost works and not being able to mount your SD card, CM7 is it. Oh, and don't forget the crappy battery life. The guy is a newbie. Why would you recommend CM7 to a newbie.
Thread closed, since best rom depends in what suites for you.
I have and was using the Cappy until they Thunderbolt came out (which i am LOVING btw) and i had the current version of Serendipity on it at the time the TB came out. I am getting ready to sell it, i had Cognition on it before and i liked Serendipity more. Is Serendipity still one of the top ROMs? It looks like Mosaic has built up some steam also.
Is Serendipity still one of the top ROMs?
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I'm distilling your question down to this. Simple answer: no one can tell you this but yourself. You're going to have to decide what works best for you, and if Serendipity is a top ROM in your opinion, then it's a top ROM.
Sorry for the relatively short post, but I thought I'd throw this out there before someone else reminds you that these posts come up often, and are usually closed down pretty quick.
i know it's opinion based, but if you mess with alot of them, the general consensus will see which ones seem to be the fastest and/or most stable after trying quite a few of them. Thats the info i was looking for. I guess the real question is what seems to be hot for the Cappy right now since i have been out of the loop for 3-4 months.
Is CM7 in Alpha still? or is it Final?
leoingle said:
i know it's opinion based, but if you mess with alot of them, the general consensus will see which ones seem to be the fastest and/or most stable after trying quite a few of them. Thats the info i was looking for. I guess the real question is what seems to be hot for the Cappy right now since i have been out of the loop for 3-4 months.
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I'd say that whatever ROMs are at the top of the list in the development section are probably the ones getting the most attention and support. People tend to talk about ones that are being actively used, developed, and maintained.
Can't answer the question about CM7, though.
leoingle said:
i know it's opinion based, but if you mess with alot of them, the general consensus will see which ones seem to be the fastest and/or most stable after trying quite a few of them. Thats the info i was looking for. I guess the real question is what seems to be hot for the Cappy right now since i have been out of the loop for 3-4 months.
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The only definitive thing I can say is that 2.2 ROMs are better than 2.3 ROMs in the sense that they're more stable and more complete, but that's it. The difference in 2.2 ROMs comes down to personal preference, as does the difference in 2.3 ROMs.
There's a reason these threads get closed almost immediately: THEY SUCK! No one can tell you what ROM is best for you.
hi all, just wondering from your experiences, is miui or apex 7.2 faster (just during normal use, and which has better battery life.
i would see for myself, but i dont really wanna flash back to froyo bootloaders right now.
stewi21 said:
hi all, just wondering from your experiences, is miui or apex 7.2 faster (just during normal use, and which has better battery life.
i would see for myself, but i dont really wanna flash back to froyo bootloaders right now.
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Well themn you wont be able to get an straight answer as rom's are really device dependent. I can run one and get great results while you run it the same way and get worse results. Please search before opening a new thread. This has been talked about before.
Been looking around and asking around a lot and most people say that and odexed ota rom (with oc) is fastest. What do you think?
I use kgp nexroid 6.1 oc 1190mhz and that's fast as hell, imho.
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Anybody not on the Latest CM7 Kang is simply insane imo. You hear people with various devices, reporting different levels of success with Cyanogenmod ROMS. That may be true, there may be devices that didn't 'take' so well with that particular Custom ROM!
If there's ever been a device that does enjoy a CM ROM, it's the Nexus One. It's a marriage made in heaven! From day one of owning this phone i had nothing but problems on 'Stock' ROMS. Coming from a Windows Mobile phone, it made my first impressions of Android less than stellar, i can tell you!
I jumped aboard the Cyanogen train the second the CM7 Nightlies began. I've flashed almost every single Nightly since then, without having to once wipe 'Data', without any major issues.. and after at least a hundred Nightlies flashed since then my N1 is as good as anyone could hope it would be!
You couldn't pay me to part with my N1 for anything else on the market right now. You couldn't force me, for love nor money, to use a Galaxy Nexus, or any ICS build right now!
As long as the hardware holds up, i'll be using this phone for years to come. With any luck they'll have to pry it from my cold, dead fingers!
Yeah, but isn't ch33kybutts OxygeN1mod a bit more stable and faster, being essentially the same as CM7? I know its AOSP, but a lot of CM7 things are integrated in that ROM. You should consider trying that out.
DirkGently said:
Anybody not on the Latest CM7 Kang is simply insane imo. You hear people with various devices, reporting different levels of success with Cyanogenmod ROMS. That may be true, there may be devices that didn't 'take' so well with that particular Custom ROM!
If there's ever been a device that does enjoy a CM ROM, it's the Nexus One. It's a marriage made in heaven! From day one of owning this phone i had nothing but problems on 'Stock' ROMS. Coming from a Windows Mobile phone, it made my first impressions of Android less than stellar, i can tell you!
I jumped aboard the Cyanogen train the second the CM7 Nightlies began. I've flashed almost every single Nightly since then, without having to once wipe 'Data', without any major issues.. and after at least a hundred Nightlies flashed since then my N1 is as good as anyone could hope it would be!
You couldn't pay me to part with my N1 for anything else on the market right now. You couldn't force me, for love nor money, to use a Galaxy Nexus, or any ICS build right now!
As long as the hardware holds up, i'll be using this phone for years to come. With any luck they'll have to pry it from my cold, dead fingers!
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I didn't even want this phone that much. I simply bought it as I couldn't afford anything better. This does the job well, though I would not say no to a newer and better device.
The other day, I flashed MIUI, and I have made a decision. I will never return to Cyanogenmod 7 again, ever. I simply love the fastness and smoothness of the latest MIUI. Though, I will easily give MIUI up when there's a good-for-everyday-use CM9/ICS ROM out there.
ICS is highly overrated. Had a chance to play with it today, and besides HW acceleration which can't be a bad thing, all the visual changes were as much to my dislike as Gingerbread was. Never got used to those (having Sense 3 on my MT4G, don't need to).
In any case, there's some assumption that stock ROM runs faster, because it's odexed (which means, that the odex files are already there and don't need to be re-created). This is only true for the first run, for the rest it doesn't matter - it only saves space, not having to have all the odexed files on /data.
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Jack_R1 said:
ICS is highly overrated. Had a chance to play with it today, and besides HW acceleration which can't be a bad thing, all the visual changes were as much to my dislike as Gingerbread was. Never got used to those (having Sense 3 on my MT4G, don't need to).
In any case, there's some assumption that stock ROM runs faster, because it's odexed (which means, that the odex files are already there and don't need to be re-created). This is only true for the first run, for the rest it doesn't matter - it only saves space, not having to have all the odexed files on /data.
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Your point being?
I won't go to a stock rom as I find custom roms the way to go. I run MIUI and I love it very much. A beautiful and fast rom (I use the fresh on fridays MIUI on miui.us and not that other one)
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Your point being?
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You started the thread by stating that to your understanding, odexed ROMs are faster. I saw that you moved to custom ROMs, and wanted to reassure you that they're just as fast, and non-odexed doesn't mean slower.
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Though, I will easily give MIUI up when there's a good-for-everyday-use CM9/ICS ROM out there.
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This is the other point I was trying to make, ICS might not be worth enough to give up MIUI for it.
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You started the thread by stating that to your understanding, odexed ROMs are faster. I saw that you moved to custom ROMs, and wanted to reassure you that they're just as fast, and non-odexed doesn't mean slower.
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I don't even know what difference odexed and not does as I don't even know the meaning of the word. Secondly, my phone was sent to me pre-flashed with CM7.1.0 stable so I have never used stock software with this phone
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This is the other point I was trying to make, ICS might not be worth enough to give up MIUI for it.
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I think you're right. I've seen videos of what ICS looks like and to me it looks like it's way overhyped. I really like MIUI and what it looks and feels like and to me it's fast and does what I want and gets me through a day's use with the current overclock.
I just want a rom that I can live with, that's fast and smooth. To this date, I haven't found a rom to do just that except MIUI.