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So, the only thing holding me back was voiding the warranty and the fact I have a rogers phone (build EPE54B).... so I think I have to flash the build to the one that matches the update?
Sooooo if anyone wants to point me in the safest, easiest direction... I would appreciate it... and dos and don't would be appreciated as well. I am new to the phone an android, so feel free to dumb it down.
Does the build actually mean anything? What happens once I change it... and official updates come out? I am going to cut the grass... and then root, so help me out (preferably someone that is on rogers and has done this)
thx in advance! Froyo or Brick, here I come!
had a long day with chores and family day.... but I am back at it, first tutorial down and it seems solid...
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Let me know how you make out. I'm on Rogers as well and am debating rooting.
Just looking at the stickies in General section would save you from opening yet another thread on the subject
Follow this until rooted:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636795
Follow the guide for rooted N1s from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686326
Let me know how it goes for you.
I am on Rogers and experienced EXTREME instability the moment I flashed the Froyo radio. My phone would crash randomly and frequently.
I suspect it was a problem with my hardware and have returned the phone and am waiting for a new one.
Jack_R1 said:
Just looking at the stickies in General section would save you from opening yet another thread on the subject
Follow this until rooted:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636795
Follow the guide for rooted N1s from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686326
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thx jack, I appreciate it.... sorry for the thread... but in my experience... it is easier having your hand held by someone experienced.... then assuming I am following the right one, lol.... so I follow that entire thread to go from rogers to whatever build I need? heh
I will try this in approx 2 hours.... when the yard work is done!
early quick question, when I go to "CyanogenMod"
it takes me to a thread, but I do not see the download, what am I not seeing? heh
I am at this part
Type: fastboot flash recovery recovery-RA-nexus-v1.7.0.img
it says cannot load image recovery? thx
well everything was working great up until this point, tried it 100 times, heh... so now I sit and wait for guidance? thx
Mr.Kakarot, have you put the .img in the same folder as fastboot? Or, alternatively, if fastboot is in your PATH, you won't have this problem.
i renamed the image to recovery.img and that seemed to work? I will continue after supper!
Jack_R1 said:
Just looking at the stickies in General section would save you from opening yet another thread on the subject
Follow this until rooted:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636795
Follow the guide for rooted N1s from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686326
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followed that first thread to a T and it worked out... had 2 minor stalls but I got through it... I am doing this stuff off and on, thx for that thread... this is going to be a STUPID question I am sure... but following that first thread, what have I done? unlocked, rooted and installed google add ons? phone looks awesome, I will do the rest after supper!
hmmm, got it, lol
done, running 2.2.... so tomorrow at work, i guess I will see if I have any issues....
now that this is done, can I re install that sense ui? What should I do or try now that I have done those 2 tutorials? thx
first off there are no 2.2 froyo/sense roms available as of yet.. so if you want to use a desire rom youre more than likely going to want to downgrade to the latest 2.1 radio that works well with your carrier/area, as froyo has its own radio and needs it to run properly.. once you downgrade.. nandroid>wipe>flash
yea, I did not know it would put me back to 2.1, lol.... went back and then back again to 2.2, lol... sense sure looked good!
Any ideas, suggestions, tips for 2.2? I installed flash! thx
How stable is your phone with the Froyo radio? Any unexplained reboots yet?
well it was quite late by the time I did it, I was playing with it, went to a few flash websites.... and no reboots or shutdowns, I also just woke up.... so I will know today after a full day work/playing, thx
one of the bugs is my camera does not work for video... so I have to update the radio, any suggestions! thx
Nope thats pretty much what you need to do is update the radio
thanks, but I am not gonna lie... still not sure which are radios, roms, senses, lol.... could you point me to the one I need.... or does it matter? thx, I just do not want to brick, obviously!
Also, I did not do this step.... is this what I need to do, or is it unrelated?
11) You should still have root, but if you want BusyBox (or lost root somehow), Cyanogen has done it again! Go back into Recovery and flash froyo-rooter-signed.zip. Then Titanium Backup will work once again.
does not sound like something I need or use, so I did not do it....
as far as stability... my 3g signal looked low all day... but I never had a dropped call, instability or any reboots/crashes.... all is well! thx
go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6734240&postcount=9532
havent had problems with the older one, but am going to try the new one just to see.
anyone around?
I tried these 3 things
Step_One_Froyo_Radio_Update.zip
step-two-RoDrIgUeZsTyLe-FroYo-MCR-R16-MOD-V1.8-FIX.zip
and then i ran
2.6.34_AVS-925mV_CFS_1113Mhz_061210.zip
anytime I run setcpu, I get this error
the application process com.mhuang.overclocking has stopped unexpectedly, please try again?
"uninstalled and reinstalled, worked. thx"
Hey guys,
Big noob alert...
I wanted to root my HTC Hero so I could delete some of the crapware that Sprint puts on the phone. I went to unrevoked from my phone and installed the app, hit "Start" and in a few moments, it said "Done". Now my big question is...Now what? How do I go about deleting these applications? If you guys have any other tips on how to make my HTC Hero less laggy, that would be great. My main problem is "storage space is low" messages.
Thanks!
I tried on 2.1 and afterwords said done but it was still rooted.
Searching the forum for 'removing apps' or something like that would be a great next step. And any other questions you have could also probably be found by searching too. Always try that first
Here's a good thread about removing apps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581976
cheyennemtn said:
I tried on 2.1 and afterwords said done but it was still rooted.
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Did you mean UNrooted?
Have you reverted back to the 2.27.651.5 build# like instructed in the post that I'll link here? Try following these directions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
I would like to get into the scene of rooting my phone now and exploring what it can do. Maybe there's not much it can do that I am expecting, but I won't know what its all about until I do it and get familiar with it.
So I was wondering if anyone could help me out and tell me the best/maybe easiest method to root my phone? It is the HTC Hero with software build of 2.31.651.7 and Firmware version 2.1 -update1
If I am able to root it, which rom would you all suggest I try out as a noob? I don't really want the Sprint TV or Amazon MP3 bloatware. I would like to be able to keep stuff like my gmail, Androidd market, Sprint GPS iff it matters. I would also like to be able to do some customizing in a similar way like with Launcher Pro Plus.
Am I able to root, and if so, can someone help me to be able to root my phone today?
Thank you for your help and time,
Whiteice
WhiteiceDMSTech said:
I would like to get into the scene of rooting my phone now and exploring what it can do. Maybe there's not much it can do that I am expecting, but I won't know what its all about until I do it and get familiar with it.
So I was wondering if anyone could help me out and tell me the best/maybe easiest method to root my phone? It is the HTC Hero with software build of 2.31.651.7 and Firmware version 2.1 -update1
If I am able to root it, which rom would you all suggest I try out as a noob? I don't really want the Sprint TV or Amazon MP3 bloatware. I would like to be able to keep stuff like my gmail, Androidd market, Sprint GPS iff it matters. I would also like to be able to do some customizing in a similar way like with Launcher Pro Plus.
Am I able to root, and if so, can someone help me to be able to root my phone today?
Thank you for your help and time,
Whiteice
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If you want to theme (i.e. decompiling framework and rebuilding) you need a DeOdex rom.
GMail and the Market are in every rom and I am pretty sure Sprint GPS is installable from its apk.
But once you have root access you can get RootExplorer and Navigate to /System/App (if its in the same spot as the evo) and delete the bloatware from your stock rom.
I would also like to know the root method of choice for the Hero.
I need to root someone elses phone.
Edit: These might be worth a look.
Rooting Guides/Tools:
Manual Rooting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804296
Unrevoked root method. Not sure if it works on 2.31.651.7. http://unrevoked.com
Universal Root App: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747598
z4root app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833954
But remember... I am far from knowledgeable about the Hero, so wait for someone more experienced to confirm.
xNotta said:
If you want to theme (i.e. decompiling framework and rebuilding) you need a DeOdex rom.
GMail and the Market are in every rom and I am pretty sure Sprint GPS is installable from its apk.
But once you have root access you can get RootExplorer and Navigate to /System/App (if its in the same spot as the evo) and delete the bloatware from your stock rom.
I would also like to know the root method of choice for the Hero.
I need to root someone elses phone.
Edit: These might be worth a look.
Rooting Guides/Tools:
Manual Rooting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804296
Unrevoked root method. Not sure if it works on 2.31.651.7. http://unrevoked.com
Universal Root App: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747598
z4root app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833954
But remember... I am far from knowledgeable about the Hero, so wait for someone more experienced to confirm.
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So when I install a custom rom, does it install the Sprint APK file for me, and then from that point I choose whether to install it or not? If that is the case, does it do this will all the default files and that is how you choose what you want to keep and delete?
Thanks,
Whiteice
WhiteiceDMSTech said:
So when I install a custom rom, does it install the Sprint APK file for me, and then from that point I choose whether to install it or not? If that is the case, does it do this will all the default files and that is how you choose what you want to keep and delete?
Thanks,
Whiteice
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Most roms have their bloatware removed and usually gets put in a folder on your SD card so you can install what the rom dev removed.
If you install an OTA based rom it will usually have the stock apps with some of the useless ones removed.
But if you use an AOSP rom, like Cyanogen, there wont be any HTC or Sprint apps.
It's really up to the rom dev to decide what they want in their rom.
Once you flash the new rom you can use RootExplorer or ADB to delete those apps that you don't want.
Is that what you were asking?
Also I found another root method:
SuperOneClick http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
xNotta said:
Most roms have their bloatware removed and usually gets put in a folder on your SD card so you can install what the rom dev removed.
If you install an OTA based rom it will usually have the stock apps with some of the useless ones removed.
But if you use an AOSP rom, like Cyanogen, there wont be any HTC or Sprint apps.
It's really up to the rom dev to decide what they want in their rom.
Once you flash the new rom you can use RootExplorer or ADB to delete those apps that you don't want.
Is that what you were asking?
Also I found another root method:
SuperOneClick http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
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Yes I think you answered it. Now I just need to know how to root, and what to do when I root to load a custom rom. I also need to find out which rom would be best for me to start out with?
Again, I would like to be able to load some of the default bloatware and rid the rest and then load up some programs from the apps market.
Thank you again,
Whiteice
WhiteiceDMSTech said:
Yes I think you answered it. Now I just need to know how to root, and what to do when I root to load a custom rom. I also need to find out which rom would be best for me to start out with?
Again, I would like to be able to load some of the default bloatware and rid the rest and then load up some programs from the apps market.
Thank you again,
Whiteice
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I would recommend rooting and exploring your current stock rom first untill you feel comfortable with installing a recovery, nandroid backing up, using the recovery to wipe/flashing the new rom.
When I first rooted my phone I was told to
spend a week reading how to root.
Root my stock rom.
Spend a week reading about new roms and how to flash and backup.
THEN try to flash a new rom.
Asking "Which rom is best" usually will get you flamed, It comes down to personal preference.
Here is the wiki of roms for the hero:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=CDMA_Hero_ROMs
First rom I flashed on my evo was a Fresh rom.
It's pretty stock with some tweaks done to it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681856
And hopefully someone will be able to answer which rooting method to use.
I started a thread in the Q&A section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9323410
xNotta said:
I would recommend rooting and exploring your current stock rom first untill you feel comfortable with installing a recovery, nandroid backing up, using the recovery to wipe/flashing the new rom.
When I first rooted my phone I was told to
spend a week reading how to root.
Root my stock rom.
Spend a week reading about new roms and how to flash and backup.
THEN try to flash a new rom.
Asking "Which rom is best" usually will get you flamed, It comes down to personal preference.
Here is the wiki of roms for the hero:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=CDMA_Hero_ROMs
First rom I flashed on my evo was a Fresh rom.
It's pretty stock with some tweaks done to it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681856
And hopefully someone will be able to answer which rooting method to use.
I started a thread in the Q&A section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9323410
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Ok, I like your idea about rooting with my stock rom first. I just need to figure out how now to root it.
I may be bugging you today if that is ok. You seem pretty helpful, and with doing something like this for your first time that you are not familiar with, well help is what I will need
I have also subscribed to your other thread you linked to. Hopefully something, at least for me, easy will come up to root my phone.
Thank you again for all your help,
Whiteice
WhiteiceDMSTech said:
Ok, I like your idea about rooting with my stock rom first. I just need to figure out how now to root it.
I may be bugging you today if that is ok. You seem pretty helpful, and with doing something like this for your first time that you are not familiar with, well help is what I will need
I have also subscribed to your other thread you linked to. Hopefully something, at least for me, easy will come up to root my phone.
Thank you again for all your help,
Whiteice
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The threads linked tell you how to root, just read them.
WhiteiceDMSTech said:
Ok, I like your idea about rooting with my stock rom first. I just need to figure out how now to root it.
I may be bugging you today if that is ok. You seem pretty helpful, and with doing something like this for your first time that you are not familiar with, well help is what I will need
I have also subscribed to your other thread you linked to. Hopefully something, at least for me, easy will come up to root my phone.
Thank you again for all your help,
Whiteice
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Not a problem, I know where you're coming from. I was terrified to root when I first read about it.
I'll try my best to answer what I can.
And if Unrevoked works with the .7 version, It basically does everything for you so it's really simple.
If you can check your Radio Baseband version and it's one of these, unrevoked should work.
But we should wait for someone to confirm.
(Should be in Menu -> Settings -> About Phone -> Software info)
HTC CDMA Hero, running radio baseband versions
1.04.01.09.21
2.41.04.02.02
2.42.01.04.23
2.42.01.04.27
Source: http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
xNotta said:
Not a problem, I know where you're coming from. I was terrified to root when I first read about it.
I'll try my best to answer what I can.
And if Unrevoked works with the .7 version, It basically does everything for you so it's really simple.
If you can check your Radio Baseband version and it's one of these, unrevoked should work.
But we should wait for someone to confirm.
(Should be in Menu -> Settings -> About Phone -> Software info)
HTC CDMA Hero, running radio baseband versions
1.04.01.09.21
2.41.04.02.02
2.42.01.04.23
2.42.01.04.27
Source: http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
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Again, thank you for your time and patience. I really want to do this and want to do it right. If something would go wrong, I wouldn't know what to do.
My radio baseband version is 2.42.01.04.27
Will wait to hear back or see if anyone can confirm it working.
What is unrevoked? I am guessing it's kind of a "one click" type thing that will root the phone, or is it more then that?
Thank you,
Whiteice
*EDIT* So I read your link and read up on it a little. I have a basic understanding of what it does, but again, this is all new to me
You know, the more I think about it, the more I think it would be easier to ruu back to .5 and root from there. I know for a fact that unrevoked will root .5, as its the method I used. Also, I've heard good things about regaw's root, too.
Just follow the directions EXACTLY and you can't go wrong.
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!
Whatever happened to reading and trying? More importantly just reading.
WhiteiceDMSTech said:
Again, thank you for your time and patience. I really want to do this and want to do it right. If something would go wrong, I wouldn't know what to do.
My radio baseband version is 2.42.01.04.27
Will wait to hear back or see if anyone can confirm it working.
What is unrevoked? I am guessing it's kind of a "one click" type thing that will root the phone, or is it more then that?
Thank you,
Whiteice
*EDIT* So I read your link and read up on it a little. I have a basic understanding of what it does, but again, this is all new to me
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Okay, I wouldn't go off just radio versions...I would go off software versions.
I posted in the other thread of his and HAD recommended manually with ADB but now I would recommend using SuperOneClick. I've been searching google and it seems to be the more popular one. Have yet to read someone using Unrevoked.
Asadullah said:
Whatever happened to reading and trying? More importantly just reading.
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I think you have to sign a "No reading" clause when you register here. Or at least just to post in the Hero section...
stayclean said:
I think you have to sign a "No reading" clause when you register here. Or at least just to post in the Hero section...
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I appreciate it, thanks for the sarcasm guys.
The reading part has to do with how bad my ADHD is. Thus the reason why I am trying to find something a little easier and not so in depth.
But thanks again for the sarcasm. It's much appreciate being a noob and trying to find help.
Whiteice
WhiteiceDMSTech said:
I appreciate it, thanks for the sarcasm guys.
The reading part has to do with how bad my ADHD is. Thus the reason why I am trying to find something a little easier and not so in depth.
But thanks again for the sarcasm. It's much appreciate being a noob and trying to find help.
Whiteice
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ADHD, huh? Then you might be better off with a one click method. ADB method, while not difficult, requires a fair amount of reading and exact typing, or you get a hero shaped paperweight. Superoneclick seems to be the option of choice.
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!
user7618 said:
ADHD, huh? Then you might be better off with a one click method. ADB method, while not difficult, requires a fair amount of reading and exact typing, or you get a hero shaped paperweight. Superoneclick seems to be the option of choice.
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!
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Yes, its very bad, especially when it comes to reading. It is very VERY frustrating when you want to be able to read something but you can't.
Back on topic, thank you for the advice. Now to try and find out which one click method would be best for my phone.
Thank you again for your help and understanding,
Whiteice
WhiteiceDMSTech said:
Yes, its very bad, especially when it comes to reading. It is very VERY frustrating when you want to be able to read something but you can't.
Back on topic, thank you for the advice. Now to try and find out which one click method would be best for my phone.
Thank you again for your help and understanding,
Whiteice
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No problem.
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!
stayclean said:
I think you have to sign a "No reading" clause when you register here. Or at least just to post in the Hero section...
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He must not have read it when he joined. Hypocrite.
My Evo made me Swype this from the XDA App.
Try the xda wiki page for the hero... has all good information linked in one place.
I have my phone rooted and long story short wiped my backup from the sd card of my stock rom.
I have been looking unsucessfully for a stock rom for my carrier online and have yet to find one.
I am on the MTS Allstream network in manitoba canada.
wwwDOTmtsDOTca if you want to see the carrier (sorry not allowed to post links cause I am a net poster)
if anybody could help would be greatly appreciated.
Am a bit of a noob to this but could this be a simple fix as in somebody just copying their existing backup from their phone and emailing me a copy so I could put it on my sd card and boot from that.
Thanks for the help everyone.
Do you need the actual stock ruu that came on your phone, or are you just wanting sense to be able to update prl and profile? If it's just to update, any sense rom can do that for you.
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Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!
I am unsure what you mean by RUU. I guess i just need the sense interface. That is the one I have lost.
http://www.htc.com/us/support/hero-sprint/downloads/
here you go. u can download the update there. i believe u need HTC sync for it to work, i dont remember. but its all there for you. but this is for sprint. idk but if its the same htc hero then it should work. unless ur not on the HTC CDMA hero
sparky204 said:
I am unsure what you mean by RUU. I guess i just need the sense interface. That is the one I have lost.
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RUU=ROM Upgrade Utility Basically Referring to the "Stock Rom/Upgrade Rom"!
Also may I ask exactly what you mean by Simple Fix? Is your phone currently Functional? Or are you just looking to Replace what you Erased for Piece of Mind? Let me know... I'll try my Best to Help!
Sent from my Hero using XDA App
Yes I am very happy with Cyanogenmod. It is amazing and has made my phone run great. The stock rom it was running kept getting lots of lag and hanging if that makes sense. (pun intended)
Anyways I just want to get the original back because if I want to change phones or switch I dont know if my carrier will help me with the current mod on it.
Thanks for the help guys
My wife has a vivid and she went through with the update that was poping up even though I told her not too until I fixed it. It was on 4.0.3 before 1.85 I believe, and then updating to 2.2 is the attempt.
The phone is rooted and unlocked, s-on
I don't mind the update happening but when the phone restarts to do the update, it starts and then jumps to a screen with the android, with his belly open and a red danger sign and just sticks there.
What do I do now, to get this update done and back to root/unlocked?
maxpower2078 said:
My wife has a vivid and she went through with the update that was poping up even though I told her not too until I fixed it. It was on 4.0.3 before 1.85 I believe, and then updating to 2.2 is the attempt.
The phone is rooted and unlocked, s-on
I don't mind the update happening but when the phone restarts to do the update, it starts and then jumps to a screen with the android, with his belly open and a red danger sign and just sticks there.
What do I do now, to get this update done and back to root/unlocked?
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Wrong section.....and is this the new update after ICS?
camo_flage said:
Wrong section.....and is this the new update after ICS?
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what section should it be in and yes, this would be the most recent update, I believe it moves the android from version 4.0.3 to 4.0.4 I think
maxpower2078 said:
what section should it be in and yes, this would be the most recent update, I believe it moves the android from version 4.0.3 to 4.0.4 I think
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This should be in the Q/A section and I don't think it does. it was just a minor update for sensor issues or something like that. Have you tried running an RUU?
camo_flage said:
This should be in the Q/A section and I don't think it does. it was just a minor update for sensor issues or something like that. Have you tried running an RUU?
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wow, I have too much to learn about this stuff. I just switched services and was on a spring phone (CDMA) there is a lot of differences, I don't even know what RUU is so will do some reading
maxpower2078 said:
wow, I have too much to learn about this stuff. I just switched services and was on a spring phone (CDMA) there is a lot of differences, I don't even know what RUU is so will do some reading
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Lol you are not alone everyone needs to start somewhere
Sounds like a botched install. You will likely need to re-install from RUU.
You'll need to re-lock the bootloader, and download whatever RUU you want. The RUU is basically the downloadable Windows Installer version of what the carrier pushes via OTA update. You can find one for each of the main carriers. In my experience, it doesn't matter which carrier you install (for example, my phone when purchases was Rogers, but I flashed a Bell RUU, then flashed roms based on AT&T and Telstra afterward).
Look at the Superguide sticky thread in the Dev section, and it will (hopefully) answer all your questions. It has the steps for re-locking and un-locking, links for the RUU's, and (I think) I guide for installing the RUU, though it's really straight forward. Once you have the RUU installed, and are starting fresh again, you will have to un-lock the bootloader and root again, or just flash a custom rom after re-installing a custom recovery (CWM, TWRP, etc).
Good luck, and don't be afraid to post back here if you have any issues. But make sure you read the superguide top to bottom at least twice. It will give you an idea of what steps are preformed in what order and why. Even if you don't need to do all the steps, at least you should have an understanding of what's actually going on.
DO NOT INSTALL CWM...
It corrupts partitions...
I recommend twrp
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Sent from my HTC Raider on the Rogers Wireless Network
Thank you everyone, I was able to get it back to before the update. The wife was complaining about "what does this root thing get me anyways" after this trouble so I am just going to unroot it, do the OTA update and let me have it. Is she ends up wanting something different I will step in.
Great to hear!
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