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Enomther's TheOfficial ROM or CyanogenMOD 6?

I just saw a couple posts regarding CM6, but I'm running TheOfficial ROM from Enom and I love it. Flashed to CM6 just to give it a shot and I am indifferent on the matter... Maybe someone can provide some input on to why i should use CM6.
Thanks a lot
Zach

Both are very solid roms to use, last few months I've been using enomter's rom and changed a few things on that. CM6 just came out and its been awhile since I used a rom from cyanogen so I flashed it and currently been running that. Also changed a few things, added enomthers, kang o rama wallpapers, changed the phone to galaxy s phone, not sure what else Ive done so far.
Its all personal preference, I loved used enomthers themed version, cm6 has a themed version out as well and its very simliar to enomthers. Detail and very good looking eye candy and both run smooth. As of now I ll stick with cm6 till enmother gets updated reasons are:
Power widget:custom, choose what you want in the bar
power button: reboot, recovery bootloader (really liking this)
dial pad (prefered the custom) did push galax s dial pad on for now
cyanogen mod settings simple to use and like location
battery life is pretty solid as well

Of the two I prefer Cyanogen. But I am running InnovationOS and think it is by far the best.

snlu178 said:
Of the two I prefer Cyanogen. But I am running InnovationOS and think it is by far the best.
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hmm...
i may run cyanogen for a bit.
what does InnovationOS do that makes it better?

flash one for a week then switch to the other and see which you prefer. Both roms have so many little things that make each unique it would be much easier for you just try both and see for yourself which is better.

Blueman101 said:
flash one for a week then switch to the other and see which you prefer. Both roms have so many little things that make each unique it would be much easier for you just try both and see for yourself which is better.
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alright. where do i get these roms? (cyano comes on rom manager)
thanks

zachthemaster said:
alright. where do i get these roms? (cyano comes on rom manager)
thanks
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Here is the Enom one, he has said that he will update with a newer Alpha version tonight, best for you to just go with the 2.11.3 stable rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614427
just place it on the root of your sd card and (if your using rom manager) select install from sd card(be sure to both backup and wipe) the wipe wont touch your sdcard, only the phones internal memory
Also there is a themed version and a non themed version, ill let you pick
-cheers

I like InnovationOS because it has a sense like feel without all the glut. But it doesn't have all the tweaks of the others.
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Enom fort the old style apps2sd
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Enom fort the old style apps2sd
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Yeah, thats another thing with Cyanogen i missed/mow have again was/is apps to sd. There is no way for me to activate apps2sd besides just the normal default way froyo lets you on TheOfficial. Cyanogen lets you go to town with apps2sd in 6.0.0.
I'm not sure how i am liking cyanogenmod 6.0.0 vs TheOfficial. There are a couple things i like and dislike, and a couple things that are the same.
I like the render effects in cm (it has cool renders, not just solid colors)
i DISLIKE ADWLauncher replacing the stock launcher. i have never liked this.
the trackball alerts are about the same.
I dont know. ill post more things as i see them, but i dont know where to be in terms of ROMs. InnovationOS just doesnt sound like my cup of tea

Well, it's just a personal preference... both are amazing ROMs... IMHO, enomther's is rock-stable... cyanogenmod 6 is more bleeding-edge (but super-stable none-the-less)... & you can remove adw launcher quite easily if you wish...

zachthemaster said:
Yeah, thats another thing with Cyanogen i missed/mow have again was/is apps to sd. There is no way for me to activate apps2sd besides just the normal default way froyo lets you on TheOfficial. Cyanogen lets you go to town with apps2sd in 6.0.0.
I'm not sure how i am liking cyanogenmod 6.0.0 vs TheOfficial. There are a couple things i like and dislike, and a couple things that are the same.
I like the render effects in cm (it has cool renders, not just solid colors)
i DISLIKE ADWLauncher replacing the stock launcher. i have never liked this.
the trackball alerts are about the same.
I dont know. ill post more things as i see them, but i dont know where to be in terms of ROMs. InnovationOS just doesnt sound like my cup of tea
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Not exactly sure what any of that meant, but in case you said: You can't use the ext partition apps2sd with Enom, that is incorrect. You certainly can, it's in his custom Spare Parts tool, like all of his other customization items.

I think he meant that for CM. I'm using Micromod now which is enom based.
The only thing that's holding me back from CM is that apps2ext.

[Q] If Enom 2.14.4 is it, what's next for you?

Guys,
I'm a stability freak, kind of the opposite end of the planet from the CM7 nightly guys I suppose... I love the extra features that are in some ROMs, but Enom's ROM has lots of nice features and is rock solid stable.
But as we all know, he has taken personal leave of Android since December and maybe he'll come back, maybe he won't...
So for you all who want a stable ROM similar to Enom, what are you considering, or what have you already tried? I'm hoping CM7 gets stable and released in the next bit and I'll perhaps move to it, but I really don't want to leave Enom. However I've heard Gingerbread is a bit faster, better storage efficiency, plus fixes, etc..
I'd create a poll, but there's too many ROMs to really put in there I suppose and I'd inevitably leave one or two out, so I won't.

Really never had a problem with CM7. It never reboots and I always get my calls/messages. What do you need more stability from.
You could always try the stock rooted rom plus whatever extras you need.

I am currently using Geo's stock GB ROM. It is running pretty good. DT A2SD seems to screw with the phone volume. (Not sure how or why, but I tested this extensively over the last 2 hours and it definitely does something to it.) Battery life is a little bit lacking. Perhaps a better kernel will help that out. The only thing that is really needed is trackball wake/unlock. I hope someone can fix the code for GB soon. I never really cared for FM radio, so no loss there for me. Aside from the lack of Enom's spare parts, I am happy with it.

lets hope enom comes back to us (greedily ).. i think were all in agreeance when i say he has his priorities straight... all the best to enom..
aside from that, i enjoyed leos roms shortly after froyo was released. i think he was on personal leave as well just recently.. his spare parts reminded me of enoms as far as options. even though he doesnt have the 'hardware skills' necessary, id love to see more from leo..
DT A2SD seems to screw with the phone volume. (Not sure how or why said:
try using the stable release if youre on the beta.
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Very happy with the speed & stability of Geo's GB rom!

CM7 RC1 running VERY well for me. No wonks, great battery.. stable and fast

Yes I am missing enomthers latest touch for the gingerbread ota. But family comes first. Right now I am using dsixda gingerbread rom with root, deodexe, dt's apps2sd, busybox. So far it is running good. Was on geo114m's gingerbread for a little while.
What I miss about enomthers rom is the ability to uninstall programs that you are not going to use. Now I have to semi cook a rom taking out the stuff I don't want. Only thing all of these ota gbs are missing is the trackball wake and alert. Might go back to the latest enomther until that happens.
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After testing different roms, I'm now very happy with SuperAosp rom.

DirkGently1 said:
CM7 RC1 running VERY well for me. No wonks, great battery.. stable and fast
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+1 for me.

coldchillen said:
try using the stable release if youre on the beta.
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Where can I find the latest stable release? In the DT thread, I only see the last beta (4).

Know-Fear said:
Where can I find the latest stable release? In the DT thread, I only see the last beta (4).
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ftp://dtuser:[email protected]//
direct link:
http://www.darktremor.info/files/a2sd/dtapps2sd-2.7.5.2-1-signed.zip

I'm coming from Enom's ROM. I took the plunge and installed a couple of nightlies, and then CM7RC1.
I deeply regret it.
Even Dewonkifier didn't help me. Today my mic went silent and I had to reboot to regain it. I can't count the calls I've missed in the last week.
I don't like having to recompile it to build battery percentage.
Gingerbread completely sucks when it comes to launchers (or should I say it the other way around - all the launchers completely suck under Gingerbread). No launcher has been optimized to work with more than 5 screens - and that includes Go-EX / ADW / LP. They suck so badly I can't stand it. Nexus S has it the same way for almost 2 months - and it hasn't been fixed yet. I don't have high hopes of somebody fixing it too soon, until more devices with GB appear.
The only reason I'm keeping CM7 at this point is because I want to correct its RTL language support - it annoys me (specifically when mixing RTL and LTR languages, and more specifically - in punctuation). Plus, I hope to make it distinguish between LTR and RTL strings using a bit better algorithm than the "any RTL symbols in the string? => RTL string" current one. And make it adjustable under CM menus.
This week/weekend I hope to find enough time for it, test it, hopefully submit it (if I get a better solution than the current one), and I'm seriously considering going back to Enom's ROM, at least until one of the launchers gets GB-compatible and CM7 will be merged with GRI40 source and gets rid of the wonks. Never had this SMS bug for a year, don't think it'll bother me in another couple of months. And I don't use Copy-Paste nearly enough to justify GB sweetness. I'll really miss the screen animation...

Thank you very much kind sir.
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ftp://dtuser:[email protected]//
direct link:
http://www.darktremor.info/files/a2sd/dtapps2sd-2.7.5.2-1-signed.zip
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This may actually be my first post here on XDA after countless hours of reading, installing, testing, tweaking and starting all over with my N1.
Your post title says it all. When Enomther called it quits, I figured my N1 had reached it's zenith and would live out it's days rocking The Official 2.14.4. This ROM does it all: Fast, many kernels available to play with, feature-rich, STABLE, did I mention fast?
Out of curiosity regarding the sheer number of threads, I just had to try an MIUI ROM. Tried the stock set-up from miui-dev.com. While I thought the graphics and integrated feature set was great, it was very buggy. Lots of little things just did not work as they should have.
I was not interested in CM7 as bloat seems to have sapped away speed over the last several months.
However, I have run the Gingerbread custom set-up put together by Geo411m and it rocks! Very stable so far, good battery life with the stock kernel, everything works like it should and the performance is excellent. Menus are snappy, web pages scroll smoothly...there are very few issues and I am thrilled that the N1s have a new lease on life.
Only two gripes about Gingerbread so far:
1) No Trackball unlock
2) No power widget integrated into the pull down - I LOVED this feature for toggling system states.
Other than those minor issues that I am sure will be addressed in future ROMs, I am thrilled with GB. Now if only Enomther would weave his magic once again...
Thanks to the great community that makes these phones so fun and powerful!
axial_pro

I'm with the TS when he says that he needs stability. CM7 up until RC1 was just not cutting it, too many wonks and quarks. I put CM7 RC1 on my N1 and it works, but I ended up back on Kang - o - rama's version of cm6.1. Now that I've seen Kangorama release a version with CM7, I may give that a shot.
One of my biggest concerns is memory. If I don't need the stock launcher or ADW, then I don't want to waste the memory there. Kang o rama really works that out with its advanced installer.
For now though, I'm more than happy with Kang o rama. My N1, my gf's N1, and my roommates N1 all are running it and are VERY pleased.

So not surprisingly overwhelming CM7 responses.. So maybe I'll try that as well, but I'm still going to wait until CM7 is released and the "wonky" stuff is fixed.

It's funny how some of us are having polar opposite experiences with CM7 RC1. Really good for some and totally lousy for others

I guess it depends on the usage, and on the level of stability required from the ROM...
I think if I was used to rebooting my phone once in a couple of days - I wouldn't notice some of the problems. If I wasn't used to having 7 screens filled with widgets and icons - I wouldn't complain about the launchers and GB. If I had a lot of calls - possibly I wouldn't have the phone idle for enough time to wonk out. Some uses make the problems more visible.

ayvecs said:
Yes I am missing enomthers latest touch for the gingerbread ota. But family comes first. Right now I am using dsixda gingerbread rom with root, deodexe, dt's apps2sd, busybox. So far it is running good. Was on geo114m's gingerbread for a little while.
What I miss about enomthers rom is the ability to uninstall programs that you are not going to use. Now I have to semi cook a rom taking out the stuff I don't want. Only thing all of these ota gbs are missing is the trackball wake and alert. Might go back to the latest enomther until that happens.
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I'm running this one as well.
I've found it to be extremely stable and even better battery life than Enom's. I've also seen an improvement in bluetooth connectivity.
I miss most the status bar power control widget, better trackball notification and the flexibility of his spareparts mod.

axial_pro said:
Only two gripes about Gingerbread so far:
1) No Trackball unlock
2) No power widget integrated into the pull down - I LOVED this feature for toggling system states.
axial_pro
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these are the exact two features I'm missing from the GB roms out there. I tried Geos GB rom and after a few hours I couldn't deal without having these features.

[Q] Phiremod v5.2 or CM7{MostRecentNightly} + HC Features?

Simple question, just lookin' for a consensus: do people prefer Phiremod v5.2 or plain old CyanogenMod7 with the wonderful Honeycomb Features on top?
Any sort of opinion counts. Smoothness of GUI, usability, stability, raw burning power-- you name it, I want to hear it. I know every Nook has its own personality too, but whateva. I'm just looking for opinions.

Phiremod for me is the way to go. He knows GUI and does a good job at it. According to phiredrop, the Honeycomb features you're referencing are in the works. Patience my dear. Patience.

The Tablet Tweaks will, when done, and up as one of the CyanogenMod settings in the rom once the developer is done and its all tested and he is happy with it.
Until then, both the Tablet Tweaks and Phiremod will be slightly behind the "pure" CM7 nightlies thanks to having to wait for the nightlies to be able to add things to a custom version.
Of the two, the Tablet Tweaks are more compelling to ME than anything else, so as long as they don't fall too far behind nightlies I am sticking with that version.
Eventually the frenetic development pace the CyanogenMod Team is going at will slow down and someday we will actually see a stable version released:
Phiremod will, I expect, continue to exist and then have all of the CM stuff plus the additions.
The tablet tweaks will be in the base CM rom and cease as a stand-alone- its only there now for developing the changes, after all.

Need Help With Phiremod V5.2
Just flash this ROM a short time ago. Rebooted and I'm stuck on the green android page - the one that says "welcome to android". I keep touching the android to get started, but it doesn't work. Did I do something wrong during the install?

My first question- do you have a backup of the previous rom?
Second- which rom? Phiremod or CM7?
I haven't had that problem with either rom, but a few months back I had plenty of troubles.
Fortunately the NC is hard to actually brick.
There are a few ways to boot into recovery, but the first thing I would TRY is simply holding the power button in and see if it will reboot.
If not you will most likely need to find one of the ways to force reboot and truthfully I no longer remember them. All the info is here in this forum though.

ambogt said:
Phiremod for me is the way to go. He knows GUI and does a good job at it. According to phiredrop, the Honeycomb features you're referencing are in the works. Patience my dear. Patience.
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Iiiiiintawesting... well I've waited all this time for GB for my Droid X and it certainly paid off, so I can wait a bit longer.
I'll try Phiremod v5.2 in the meantime, just to get something running on device. Is it possible to dual-boot something off your eMMC and Phiremod v5.2 off the SD?

ambogt said:
Phiremod for me is the way to go. He knows GUI and does a good job at it. According to phiredrop, the Honeycomb features you're referencing are in the works. Patience my dear. Patience.
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Yes, Phiremod is the master of GUI in my eyes. His included apps are fantastic as well.
However, the ROM of the hour IMO is the CM7 video test build. That sucker plays full motion in hardware accel and like all of dalingrin's compilations, provides access to the market apps normal cm7 (as of today) doesn't. (Namely, certain live wallpapers like Silhouette which I love.)
When the video code is finalized, and the tablet code is finalized, and both are pushed into CM7, and the phiredrop mod's it.... zomg... digital spunkage.

chisleu said:
Yes, Phiremod is the master of GUI in my eyes. His included apps are fantastic as well.
However, the ROM of the hour IMO is the CM7 video test build. That sucker plays full motion in hardware accel and like all of dalingrin's compilations, provides access to the market apps normal cm7 (as of today) doesn't. (Namely, certain live wallpapers like Silhouette which I love.)
When the video code is finalized, and the tablet code is finalized, and both are pushed into CM7, and the phiredrop mod's it.... zomg... digital spunkage.
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Yeah... that does sound ridiculously amazing... seems I bought a Nook Color at the right time.

ieAnd said:
Yeah... that does sound ridiculously amazing... seems I bought a Nook Color at the right time.
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Yep!! Make sure you donate to CM7 and anyone else you find deserving. Even $1-$5 makes a difference, especially when 1000 people do it!!

rogerdugans said:
My first question- do you have a backup of the previous rom?
Second- which rom? Phiremod or CM7?
I haven't had that problem with either rom, but a few months back I had plenty of troubles.
Fortunately the NC is hard to actually brick.
There are a few ways to boot into recovery, but the first thing I would TRY is simply holding the power button in and see if it will reboot.
If not you will most likely need to find one of the ways to force reboot and truthfully I no longer remember them. All the info is here in this forum though.
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Thanks for responding, but I figured it out myself. I just redid the entire flash, but this time I did NOT load GApps. It worked perfectly, and I was able to get all of my old apps, including the market, from my Titanium Backup.

Need a Better ROM Than CM

I have had about enough of CyanogenMod. Been using it since 5, and every single version has had significant usability problems. Currently in 7.0.3 photos are bad, GPS is non-functional, it forgets settings like keyboard, and when I first answer the phone no one can hear me.
Terrible. There has got to be something better. If not I'm going to stock.

You can use MIUI ROM

Enomther's
It's not gingerbread but is by far the most stable and the fastest.

There's many ROM on this forum, you are free to use which ever make you happy.
CM7 has been great for me since the first nightly.

Autinhyeu seriously? Like RoDrIgUeZsTyLe, or straight MIUI?
Are most functions stable?
baseballfanz I'm glad you've had such luck. Many of us haven't. I'm looking for feedback of others' experiences on which ROMs seem to work the best. I already know which one I'm not using anymore.

Quantumstate said:
I have had about enough of CyanogenMod. Been using it since 5, and every single version has had significant usability problems. Currently in 7.0.3 photos are bad, GPS is non-functional, it forgets settings like keyboard, and when I first answer the phone no one can hear me.
Terrible. There has got to be something better. If not I'm going to stock.
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I'd never be able to go stock after i used CM for the first time . It might have some flaws but its the best there is & has no alternative .

Quantumstate said:
Autinhyeu seriously? Like RoDrIgUeZsTyLe, or straight MIUI?
Are most functions stable?
baseballfanz I'm glad you've had such luck. Many of us haven't. I'm looking for feedback of others' experiences on which ROMs seem to work the best. I already know which one I'm not using anymore.
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Yes, MIUIMOD from Rod
i had use MIUI Stock 4 months ago, then i use CM 7 nightly build, and now, i comeback MIUI with MIUIMOD ROM, after a week use, with some tutorial, i think its best for my phone at the moment, hehe... some user dont want use MIUI, because it like as iOS but i dont care, it gives me comfort & i use it...
With MIUIMOD, you will have more than free Internal memory and RAM memory...
anyway, i saw dont more difference between the CM7 and MIUI, you can choice

With CM all I had to do was wipe and use Amon Ra to flash zip.
There are no instructions with RoDrIgUeZsTyLe except "MIUIMOD D2SD HowTo", which only seems to do with partitioning. Do partitions actually need to be changed, and if so why?
How to apply the ROM and why aren't there instructions?
Also he says, " (Please Read the D2SD HowTo)", but there's no link and a search doesn't turn it up.

MIUI is pretty good

Which one? I've found four so far, including one that seems to have Chinese buttons.

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With CM all I had to do was wipe and use Amon Ra to flash zip.
There are no instructions with RoDrIgUeZsTyLe except "MIUIMOD D2SD HowTo", which only seems to do with partitioning. Do partitions actually need to be changed, and if so why?
How to apply the ROM and why aren't there instructions?
Also he says, " (Please Read the D2SD HowTo)", but there's no link and a search doesn't turn it up.
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Goto Rod's thread i will help you, if i can :d
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You should definitely go for QND MIUI
Used it from the beginning and I'm loving it. It's stock MIUI with XJ's multilanguage pack, so it's just like MIUI is supposed to be. No junk or ugly themes added

I also get the delayed connection when I answer calls but besides that CM7 is the best there is.Some debate MIUI is better but its a matter of the individuals likes/dislikes. Also the themes and control of customization on CM7 IMO by far surpasses any other rom out there currently so you should prolly stick w/ CM. Hopefully the next stable release fixes the bugs your speaking of

Mouse I've been patient with CM since version 5, and I am fed up.
The good news is I am really digging this MIUIMod. Seems much more modern, smooth, and usable than CM. Have just now gotten things set up so it remains to be seen how well things work, but the camera is sure better and that's a biggie for me.
Takes forever to boot (no big deal) and I am missing my Galaxy wallpaper, but I am:
Digging it.

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Which one? I've found four so far, including one that seems to have Chinese buttons.
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flash away then and see what one you like the best thats what its all about...i would just use stock miui from either here or miui-dev if you are that finicky about roms

I just have so much to set up that it takes about a day. This is one thing that was so irritating abut CM; in order to correct atrocious usability bugs I'd have to completely reinstall each month and start all over again. I started with Rodriguez today and that's fine so far except for the lack of Galaxy wallpaper. Still have alot to learn about MIUI. Lucky it's Saturday...

You could always to CM6.x if you like CM's features.

Quantumstate said:
Autinhyeu seriously? Like RoDrIgUeZsTyLe, or straight MIUI?
Are most functions stable?
baseballfanz I'm glad you've had such luck. Many of us haven't. I'm looking for feedback of others' experiences on which ROMs seem to work the best. I already know which one I'm not using anymore.
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So much has been fixed and improved in the latest cyan nightlies over 7.0.3 that you prob should try that out first.

Have you given any of eVilD's sense roms? NXSense and NXSense HD have been working pretty well for me, although nobody can beat MIUI battery life and cuatomuzability

Haven't checked out the Sense ROMs.
MIUI is very nice so far. Desktops rotate like a cube and other nice effects. It's like a 21st century iPhone except without the restrictions, not a 20th century Windows-like CM phone. And I've found the Galaxy wallpaper in the market. My desktops are games|multimedia|default|appts/calendar|utilities. There is no launcher place where all the apps are; all apps are on desktops, but you can put apps inside a folder app which is very handy. Those apps I use are on desktops, those I rarely use are in Apps, Utilities, Multimedia, and Unused folders. No more screenshot app needed; it's Menu:VolDown now.
GPS still has problems, and still some things I haven't figured out. I need to put contacts into folders in the contacts app. With CM I'd put them into one contact and change the label to Custom with their name in it. That is only simulating folders though. Wish there were a better way or an app that could handle folders. Edit: Hey, Contacts has something called Groups, which just may be the ticket! Experimenting.
Does anyone know why DroidWall is no longer in the Market? That is my most valued app to keep out G**gle's prying eyes.

i dont understand, why so many ics roms based on an alpha?[rant]

already about 5 ics roms not counting the cm9 alpha, why??
they all have the same bugs
they all have the same things working
super ics kangorama?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360567
koush's + launcher pro added..
nexus mv ics?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364411
koush's + glados kernel + v6 supercharger
ultimate ics?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363765
koush's + some extra wall papers + file explorer
all these things are just a completely alpha ics build with some hacks thrown in.. why?? why not just make a post in the ics thread (either by kwiboo or koush) saying "hey guys use launcher pro if you feel its buggy" or "here is link to glados kernel" instead of making "New ultimate sweet fast ICS rom" when all you are doing is downloading one of the actual source built ics roms and opening it with 7zip and dropping in a new boot.img in there then asking for donations :/
/rant

It is no different than the numerous GB/CM based ROMs. Who cares?
Bounced off a tower to a forum near you!

I think that He ( OP ) won't be happy until they say Beta.. its alpha for a reason. so many bugs much more than beta. just sit happy with GB and give it time. I rushed it and lost the ability for Google Wallet, nothing can fix what went wrong with my phone.

xjreyes said:
I think that He ( OP ) won't be happy until they say Beta.. its alpha for a reason. so many bugs much more than beta. just sit happy with GB and give it time. I rushed it and lost the ability for Google Wallet, nothing can fix what went wrong with my phone.
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What happened? I had wallet set up and ready to go, tried it at rite aid and wouldn't go through...
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these people couldn't be taking part in a hobby for them, could they be just trying to learn the ins and outs of android, heck they couldn't even be kids learning to code and all are getting excited to show off what they complied.
Last time I checked you were not required to flash every rom in the Dev section. So lets take a step back I don't like miui nothing wrong with it but should I be complied to start a thread asking why we have topics about when I don't care for it.

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You said it....
Chill out. We have to get AOSP working bug-free in the first place, then they'll start looking different. Even CM9 doesnt have any CMsettings or anything special. We're sorry that something that we're beating Google at (ICS release for NS) currently is not to your standards.
In due time.....in due time.

I see where the OP is coming from, but I disagree. The fact that the devs work hard to bring the OS to our devices is pretty appreciated. They pretty much do Google's work for free by modifying the code.
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icecoldbong said:
already about 5 ics roms not counting the cm9 alpha, why??
they all have the same bugs
they all have the same things working
super ics kangorama?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360567
koush's + launcher pro added..
nexus mv ics?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364411
koush's + glados kernel + v6 supercharger
ultimate ics?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363765
koush's + some extra wall papers + file explorer
all these things are just a completely alpha ics build with some hacks thrown in.. why?? why not just make a post in the ics thread (either by kwiboo or koush) saying "hey guys use launcher pro if you feel its buggy" or "here is link to glados kernel" instead of making "New ultimate sweet fast ICS rom" when all you are doing is downloading one of the actual source built ics roms and opening it with 7zip and dropping in a new boot.img in there then asking for donations :/
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you missed these two.. http://goo.gl/bdy4w and http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/sammich/crespo/
i can probably find you a few more if you would like more variety

simms22 said:
you missed these two.. http://goo.gl/bdy4w and http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/sammich/crespo/
i can probably find you a few more if you would like more variety
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lol im not mad that they are all buggy, im mad that people are "deving" with a buggy base and just adding to it. why not be a little patient, if you cant create it/build it from source, wait til the base you will be using to 7zip and copypaste into your rom becomes stable. dont use an alpha build to promote your name

icecoldbong said:
lol im not mad that they are all buggy, im mad that people are "deving" with a buggy base and just adding to it. why not be a little patient, if you cant create it/build it from source, wait til the base you will be using to 7zip and copypaste into your rom becomes stable. dont use an alpha build to promote your name
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I don't think you quite understand how it works currently. There is no buggy base. They're attempting to adapt AOSP source code to compile and execute correctly on the Nexus S. This is way more complicated than you think. Almost all "bugs" you see are byproducts of tinkering with configurations, compile-ations, etc, in an attempt to get it working properly.
To put things in perspective, ICS development for the Nexus S is light years ahead of all other devices. For that reason alone, we should be grateful. Others are still struggling to either boot, or get somewhere AFTER boot.
If you don't like the way it's done, then wait for the official ROM. You have a choice, after all.

nickmv said:
I don't think you quite understand how it works currently. There is no buggy base. They're attempting to adapt AOSP source code to compile and execute correctly on the Nexus S. This is way more complicated than you think. Almost all "bugs" you see are byproducts of tinkering with configurations, compile-ations, etc, in an attempt to get it working properly.
If you don't like the way it's done, then wait for the official ROM. You have a choice, after all.
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yes, two roms are getting built from the source on xda; kwiboo and koush. then all the others.
both kwiboo and koush thread is full of bug reports of people using a different rom like brainmaster, ultimate ics, kangorama ics, etc.
all this does is add confusion from the rom chef adding things to the original rom developers work
what im suggesting/ranting is that if a rom chefs should be a little more patient in making more spinoff roms that don't really add much besides to confusion for noob users

Your argument makes a LOT more sense now. I agree, if people are posting bugs in Koush/Kwiboo sections when running brainmaster or other tweaked versions, then that's bad.
Your original argument didn't really point this out.
Not much can be done about that, aside from aggressive moderation. Tweakers will be tweakers.

nickmv said:
Your argument makes a LOT more sense now. I agree, if people are posting bugs in Koush/Kwiboo sections when running brainmaster or other tweaked versions, then that's bad.
Your original argument didn't really point this out.
Not much can be done about that, aside from aggressive moderation. Tweakers will be tweakers.
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Most of the bugs posted are not even valid. One in particular is known issue even on the GNexus.
The biggest issue I see is code optimization at this point.
One thing I think no one has mentioned is ICS may never be super fast on the NS. I will be much faster on dual core hardware
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RonnieRuff said:
One thing I think no one has mentioned is ICS may never be super fast on the NS. I will be much faster on dual core hardware
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This is one thing that has been bothering me as well. Every single one of these ROMs are not truly as smooth as Gingerbread. In no way do they even reach the fluidity found in Gingerbread ROMS. The hardware acceleration helps, but even then you can still feel the difference between the two Android releases. I have yet to hear a proper explanation as to why this is happening and I was hoping that the fix for this would be Google releasing the official Ice Cream Sandwich update.
Is it is code optimization as you say? Or is there more to it than that? I want to believe that hardware doesn't play a significant role here.

Eclair~ said:
This is one thing that has been bothering me as well. Every single one of these ROMs are not truly as smooth as Gingerbread. In no way do they even reach the fluidity found in Gingerbread ROMS. The hardware acceleration helps, but even then you can still feel the difference between the two Android releases. I have yet to hear a proper explanation as to why this is happening and I was hoping that the fix for this would be Google releasing the official Ice Cream Sandwich update.
Is it is code optimization as you say? Or is there more to it than that? I want to believe that hardware doesn't play a significant role here.
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Agree 100% no released rom before ota is even out is worth running.. I ran koush or w/e and it worked but felt like I was holding a brick.. ruff! Brainmasters straight looks like android donut.. but so does cyanogens.. no disrespect to any of the above.. but htcclay is god..
Edit: wasn't brainmaster it was some one else.. sorry
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BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
Agree 100% no released rom before ota is even out is worth running.. I ran koush or w/e and it worked but felt like I was holding a brick.. ruff! Brainmasters straight looks like android donut.. but so does cyanogens.. no disrespect to any of the above.. but htcclay is god..
Edit: wasn't brainmaster it was some one else.. sorry
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Strange, I've found that Koush's latest (CM9 Alpha 11) is plenty fast, not significantly slower than GB. Definitely Kwiboo v2 was slow as molasses, but then again it came out days ago (a long time when it comes to how fast things are moving). BM v5 is pretty fast but buggy. Also, it seems that adding franco kernel to any of these also speeds things up significantly, but I haven't tried it with CM9 Alpha 11 yet.

oakamil said:
Strange, I've found that Koush's latest (CM9 Alpha 11) is plenty fast, not significantly slower than GB. Definitely Kwiboo v2 was slow as molasses, but then again it came out days ago (a long time when it comes to how fast things are moving). BM v5 is pretty fast but buggy. Also, it seems that adding franco kernel to any of these also speeds things up significantly, but I haven't tried it with CM9 Alpha 11 yet.
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I found kwiboo's to be a lot more stable than koush's. although koush's had more functionality.. my bluetooth didnt work, and i got many errors.

Understand that we are using old binaries. ICS will run just as good as gingerbread, if not, better. These will make a world of difference

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One thing I think no one has mentioned is ICS may never be super fast on the NS.
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I'd kind of disagree with this. In its current early state here on the NS, I've gotten it running butter smooth and highly responsive, on a 1.1 OC/UV kernel. This is WITHOUT tweaks to filesystem, etc. If certain apps would just display properly when GPU Rendering is turned on, and some battery stuff worked out, I'd be 100% content.
Now granted, I've seen it running on the SGS2 and Galaxy Nexus and they're clearly speedier, but in my experience, my apps run just as fast as they did in GB.
On a side note....wanna see slow? It's been ported to the T-Mobile G1! HA! The first, original android phone!

I agree. there was actually a recent article on android police about this. There is no problem with people making their own roms but don't clog up the development section with "roms" that really all they do is bundle some easily downloadable market apps and some wallpapers and call it a new rom.
What the SGS2 xda forum actually did was split the dev section into 2 . One for original dev work and one for spin offs.