Saw the story on Engadget, but not seeing any mention of it here besides them saying thanks to XDA for "the dual boot script".
Which joker is selling CM7 this time?
I wish it was me, but I have more decency than that.
I just feel like he should AT LEAST lower the prices. $35 for an 8GB stick? That's crazy. $90 for a 32GB is a pretty good deal though. I know some places still sell those for $100+
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$90 for a 32GB is a pretty good deal though.
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buy has them for $60 ( from what it looks like on the website, not through a reseller, and they are a "authorized sandisk reseller", so i would think they are legit)
newegg has then for $80, closer to that $90 price-tag...
I've posted a review on his Amazon selling page, but I bet the review won't be published.
Douchebaggery.
Dave Vinzant
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http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dave-vinzant/25/893/6b6
He works in the Geek Squad........ hahaahaahahaaha
He plays with legos.. Lives with his parents.
And this differs from the ebay auctions I have seen , how?
Installing CM7 to an SD card is rather easy and now with the dual boot script, it makes switching between the stock os and CM7 pretty easy. Why someone would pay for free is beyond me.
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And this differs from the ebay auctions I have seen , how?
Installing CM7 to an SD card is rather easy and now with the dual boot script, it makes switching between the stock os and CM7 pretty easy. Why someone would pay for free is beyond me.
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One word: lazy. Or maybe just not tech savvy.
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I routely see Craigslistings in my area of people offering prebuilt dualbooting ROMs for $50.
A little sad if you ask me.
DIY for a technological half-wit
After reading the story in Engadget yesterday about converting the Nook Color into an Android tablet, I made up my mind to buy the Nook and the Nook2Android conversion card. Then I began seeing comments by readers about Nook2Android actually using technology developed by XDA and making money off freeware in which they had no role developing.
I make my living as a writer so I'm sensitive to matters such as copyrights, giving credit where credit is due, and being screwed over by plagiarizers.
As I sort through the forums here, however, about converting the Nook Color to an all-purpose tablet, I realize my vocabulary is incredibly limited. Reading about CM7, for example, really doesn't make it any more clear to me whether I should use that to make the conversion. Or is it Froyo? What's the difference?
My real question, I suppose, is this: what do I as an unsavvy technophobe need to do to convert a Nook Color to a dual-boot Android-based tablet?
Advice gratefully accepted and flames gracefully borne.
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After reading the story in Engadget yesterday about converting the Nook Color into an Android tablet, I made up my mind to buy the Nook and the Nook2Android conversion card. Then I began seeing comments by readers about Nook2Android actually using technology developed by XDA and making money off freeware in which they had no role developing.
I make my living as a writer so I'm sensitive to matters such as copyrights, giving credit where credit is due, and being screwed over by plagiarizers.
As I sort through the forums here, however, about converting the Nook Color to an all-purpose tablet, I realize my vocabulary is incredibly limited. Reading about CM7, for example, really doesn't make it any more clear to me whether I should use that to make the conversion. Or is it Froyo? What's the difference?
My real question, I suppose, is this: what do I as an unsavvy technophobe need to do to convert a Nook Color to a dual-boot Android-based tablet?
Advice gratefully accepted and flames gracefully borne.
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Here you go, this is about as un-tech savvy as it can get http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Barnes_&_Noble_Nook_Color:_Full_Update_Guide
Basically you burn an .img file to a microsd card, put the card in, boot up your nook, launch an app called Rom Manager, click "install clockworkmod," click "install cm7," and you're done
Update: this method is NOT dual boot though, sorry I missed that you wanted that
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Unsavvy_technophobe said:
After reading the story in Engadget yesterday about converting the Nook Color into an Android tablet, I made up my mind to buy the Nook and the Nook2Android conversion card. Then I began seeing comments by readers about Nook2Android actually using technology developed by XDA and making money off freeware in which they had no role developing.
I make my living as a writer so I'm sensitive to matters such as copyrights, giving credit where credit is due, and being screwed over by plagiarizers.
As I sort through the forums here, however, about converting the Nook Color to an all-purpose tablet, I realize my vocabulary is incredibly limited. Reading about CM7, for example, really doesn't make it any more clear to me whether I should use that to make the conversion. Or is it Froyo? What's the difference?
My real question, I suppose, is this: what do I as an unsavvy technophobe need to do to convert a Nook Color to a dual-boot Android-based tablet?
Advice gratefully accepted and flames gracefully borne.
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Appreciate you taking the time to get the real story as well as your honesty! There's multiple ways to do things, the closest way is using an image by user verygreen on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
Post in that thread with any questions, and good luck! Just need to use the right program and have a card reader and it shouldn't be any problem.
Thanks very much! I've been going through the Cyanogen site, as well. The wiki link and XDA link are enormously helpful.
Unsavvy_technophobe said:
After reading the story in Engadget yesterday about converting the Nook Color into an Android tablet, I made up my mind to buy the Nook and the Nook2Android conversion card. Then I began seeing comments by readers about Nook2Android actually using technology developed by XDA and making money off freeware in which they had no role developing.
I make my living as a writer so I'm sensitive to matters such as copyrights, giving credit where credit is due, and being screwed over by plagiarizers.
As I sort through the forums here, however, about converting the Nook Color to an all-purpose tablet, I realize my vocabulary is incredibly limited. Reading about CM7, for example, really doesn't make it any more clear to me whether I should use that to make the conversion. Or is it Froyo? What's the difference?
My real question, I suppose, is this: what do I as an unsavvy technophobe need to do to convert a Nook Color to a dual-boot Android-based tablet?
Advice gratefully accepted and flames gracefully borne.
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Wisdom gathered from sifting through XDA Nook Forums:
Try out a rock solid version of CM7 on the nook with no strings, as in doesn't touch the internal programming of the device.
You need a MicroSD card, and you should make sure it is a SanDisk brand card. 4 gig or better, I recommend 8 or 16.
1 - Download the image at this XDA thread.
2 - Download and install WinImage if windows, not sure the mac equivalent. Get version 8.1
3 - Burn the image to your SanDisk MicroSD card using WinImage.
4 - Download and install EASEUS Partition Manager.
5 - Use EASEUS to extend the last partition on the MicroSD card to fill all the unused space. Amount unused depends on the MicroSD card size.
6 - Insert MicroSD card to powered off Nook. For best results ensure a full battery charge.
7 - Power on the Nook, leave it alone until it fully boots. The boot animation will skip a bit, this is normal.
8 - After booting, don't touch anything until the screen times out. It needs to finish installing a lot of stuff on the MicroSD card, but you won't see this happening. Give it time to settle.
9 - Very important: tap the google market icon on the main desktop, and set up your google market account. If you delete this icon before you do, you may have to re-image the card to get it back.
10 - Go to the market, and download the app "SD Speed Increase" by Diego Stamigni. It's a free app. Run it and set the slider to 2048, make sure it'll run on every boot. Set the setting, and make sure to grant it superuser permissions.
11 - Enjoy!
It'd be nice if somebody doing this would at least donate some of the profits to the ROM creator so both could pocket a few bucks
So, I've been trying to follow your directions but no matter what I do, WinImage simply will not write the image. I've tried it to a 4 and 16GB Kingston MicroSD, I've tried it to a Microcenter MicroSD 4GB, and I've tried it to a brand new, just opened Sandisk 4GB MicroSD. All fail with an unspecified error, simply a red X in a box using the 32 bit version of Winimage on Windows 7 Home Premium x64.
AHA! I hear you say, "Use the 64 bit WinImage!" I thought so too, and tried it. It insists that the file is "open for reading by another program," even after a reboot. It says the same thing on 3 different SD card ROMS I downloaded.
Any ideas? Is there an alternative to WinImage (it seems somewhat half-baked).
Thanks!
It sounds like you are getting closer with the 64-bit version.. I had a hell of a time with the "file is open for reading" error as well, but a reboot always cleared mine up.
Not sure what else you could try... Maybe there is some windows service or "minimized" app that would have the file open for any reason? Just guessing at this point....
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So, I've been trying to follow your directions but no matter what I do, WinImage simply will not write the image. I've tried it to a 4 and 16GB Kingston MicroSD, I've tried it to a Microcenter MicroSD 4GB, and I've tried it to a brand new, just opened Sandisk 4GB MicroSD. All fail with an unspecified error, simply a red X in a box using the 32 bit version of Winimage on Windows 7 Home Premium x64.
AHA! I hear you say, "Use the 64 bit WinImage!" I thought so too, and tried it. It insists that the file is "open for reading by another program," even after a reboot. It says the same thing on 3 different SD card ROMS I downloaded.
Any ideas? Is there an alternative to WinImage (it seems somewhat half-baked).
Thanks!
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I've never used a 64-bit operating system, so keep that in mind.
People who don't like winimage generally use Win32 Disk Imager
Good luck
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Sorry accidentally this was submitted, phone in my pocket.
No relation to this post whatsoever.
Sent from my phone
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People who don't like winimage generally use Win32 Disk Imager
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Just as an FYI, I use this app on my Win7 x64 and it works perfectly. So don't let the "32" scare you away.
I've had no issues with WinImage on Windows 7 64-bit.
From my F!AQ:
F! I can't find and/or write the disk image in WinImage!
The command to write the image is Disk>Restore Virtual Hard Disk Image on Physical Drive. You will have to show file type All Files every time in order to find the .img file.
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I would definitely recommend verygreen's image and method over the one Blue mentioned.
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I burned it to my SD card, botted the NC with it inside and all I get is a clock and a message asking for a password to decrypt the drive. Anyone know what the password is? I can't find any posts anywhere with a password mentioned and I have to ask here because I don't have enough posts to actually ask in the development thread where this likely belongs.
You did it wrong. Try downloading, extracting and burning again. Mine is running great.
Yeah, you did something wrong. I booted it up and it looks sweet. Not a daily driver, but a very, very nice proof of concept.
I just got mine running, after giving up on it last night. I was having problems where initially winimage wouldn't even see my sd card. Then I tried in Ubuntu following the directions on the dev link, and I must have been doing something wrong, it didn't work. Tried again with winimage today and it worked this time. If you have a problem still, leave a description of your method here. It seems like this can be a finicky process for us noobs.
Doesn't it figure, right after I get this working they release an update to the .img.
I'm pretty sure it's the sd card. I'm using a 32gig class 10. I went to switch it with the 16 gig card in my vibrant and I can't even get it to work right in the phone.
Honeycomb assumes that if it fails to mount the partition for /data that the partition must be encrypted, and therefore it should prompt for a password.
So, you have a partition that won't mount, possibly due to an error writing the image to the sdcard. Either redo the image or if you have a linux machine, reformat the partition.
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I'm pretty sure it's the sd card. I'm using a 32gig class 10. I went to switch it with the 16 gig card in my vibrant and I can't even get it to work right in the phone.
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If you placed a disk image on the card then it probably is in a format that your phone doesn't like now. You'll need to reformat it, which I find the easiest way to do this is to start your nookcolor up on the stock os, then insert the card and wait for it to prompt you to format it. That should make your 32Gb card play nice with the phone again.
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If you placed a disk image on the card then it probably is in a format that your phone doesn't like now. You'll need to reformat it, which I find the easiest way to do this is to start your nookcolor up on the stock os, then insert the card and wait for it to prompt you to format it. That should make your 32Gb card play nice with the phone again.
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No, I did reformat it before I put it in. Turns out the Vibrant only supports SD cards up to 16 gig in size. It was definitely an issue with the SD card. Ran over to Best Buy on my way home from work and picked up an 8gig class 4 card (for a ridiculous price, Best Buys my ass) and was able to get Honeycomb up and running in less than 15 minutes. Would have preferred the faster card, but I guess I'll just have to send the 32 gig card back.
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No, I did reformat it before I put it in. Turns out the Vibrant only supports SD cards up to 16 gig in size. It was definitely an issue with the SD card. Ran over to Best Buy on my way home from work and picked up an 8gig class 4 card (for a ridiculous price, Best Buys my ass) and was able to get Honeycomb up and running in less than 15 minutes. Would have preferred the faster card, but I guess I'll just have to send the 32 gig card back.
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Ok, I was completely unaware that the Vibrant didn't take sd>16Gb. My G2 takes up to 32, so I didn't consider it. But that doesn't mean your 32Gb card is bad. The nookcolor can use a card of that size. How did you reformat it? If you're using windows and you went to format it from the file explorer,that may not have done it, that never works for me.
Just to clarify things, when you guys refer to "SD card," you're talking about a Micro SD card, right?
I want to make sure I buy the right thing for when I purchase my NC.
Yeah, definitely microsd
Mine's running just fine running on a class 4 4gb card. I used my mac to just dd the image onto the card and it fit without a problem, so maybe if you format in linux (download and burn a live cd of gparted if you have to) you can get something that will work best. Also, don't forget to get the newest version of windiskimager (it seems like it's the only thing that works on windows so far).
It's not quite usable for everyday, but once things get worked out it's definitely worth dedicating to eMMC =D
can some one help me out with the process of installing honeybunches
is this just a preview of honeycomb?
can i just put it on my nook to look around play with, THEN go back my usual set up?
if so how?
Download the zip file from the post in the Dev section, then write it to a uSD card that is AT LEAST 4gb (using either dd in linux/mac terminal or the latest win32diskimager). Shut off your NC and load in the card. When you turn it back on it will run the Honeycomb image from the card - no changes made to your NC!
When you want to go back, just turn off, take out card, then reboot. Right now there aren't many things working on it (you have to install the market yourself, and then most apps don't work). But it is a beautiful proof of concept. You can play around in it a bit to familiarise yourself with the new stuff without hurting your NC (theoretically, don't hold me to it if something does go wrong).
Good luck!
Got a NC a few weeks ago, rooted, and running well, but clearly not optimal.
Saw the google presentation of honeycomb today, and clearly this is what tablets need.
Do you all (those who do development) believe that the current NC is a candidate for a real version of honeycomb once it it fully released, and that it can be ported, or is the HW not adequate for it. In other words, should I be thinking my NC can be my tablet in June, or am I going to have to purchase another 'real' tablet that officially has honeycomb?
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Got a NC a few weeks ago, rooted, and running well, but clearly not optimal.
Saw the google presentation of honeycomb today, and clearly this is what tablets need.
Do you all (those who do development) believe that the current NC is a candidate for a real version of honeycomb once it it fully released, and that it can be ported, or is the HW not adequate for it. In other words, should I be thinking my NC can be my tablet in June, or am I going to have to purchase another 'real' tablet that officially has honeycomb?
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The mere fact that Honeycomb runs in it's current state is proof enough. And, it does run well for being literaly a ported code preview, also I'm sure all of the hardware acceleration and what nots are driverless and drunk. TBH it's really only going to go up from here. As soon as CWM and nookie froyo play nice everyone and their brother will be putting out custom images. Then we'll have finished honeycomb ports to look forward to.
I completely agree with woot1524, cyanogenmod won't work on this demo version of honeycomb, but once the release is official they'll whip up a rom that makes this a legit tablet. Personally I'll wait until that happens before I flash anything onto the device. I'd rather have 3.0 on my nook than 2.2 or 2.3, just for the fact that it's geared toward tablets, but there is a lot of chatter about CM7 coming to the nook sooner than later.
"Honeybunches", a custom version of deeper-blue's work, has a 2GB image.I'm currently running it off of a 2GB Class 2 microSD and it's pretty darn speedy.
Has anyone noticed any performance issues with different class SD Cards?
Is there a significant difference in speed between a class 6 (I have) and a class 10 (I do not have)?
Is there any difference in performance using any class card - 2,4,6 or 10?
Also, Has anyone been able to DL and run the B&N Nook App without causing a FC?
-NJ
OK, I am going to be getting a couple NCs for the wife and I. So I have been doing a lot of reading and want to make sure I have a handle on evrtything. I have decided that CM7 is the way to go. If I am understanding correctly I basically create a CM7 image on an SD Card (cheap Sandisk seems to work best???) and then I can run it from the SD card without installing it on the internal memory of the NC. That way I can pull the SD card, reboot and have a stock NC. Is that right? Will the performance suffer from running it from the SD card? Are there benefits to installing on the internal memory? Also, if I do install it to the internal memory, how do you use it as a normal NC? Do you just get the Android Nook app? How does that compare to the actual Nook software? Do you lose any functionality? My wife will use hers primarily as an e reader whereas mine will be a tablet first. Does anyone have experience using different browsers like Skyfire and Opera? Those are what I use a lot on my phone. I have seen the name Dolphin HDused alot, but I don't know anything about it. I am sorry for all the questions and if my terminology is not 100% accurate. I am, as the welcome video says; a noob.
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Nard Dog said:
OK, I am going to be getting a couple NCs for the wife and I. So I have been doing a lot of reading and want to make sure I have a handle on evrtything. I have decided that CM7 is the way to go.
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The only stupid question is the one unasked.
Nard Dog said:
If I am understanding correctly I basically create a CM7 image on an SD Card (cheap Sandisk seems to work best???) and then I can run it from the SD card without installing it on the internal memory of the NC. That way I can pull the SD card, reboot and have a stock NC. Is that right?
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That is correct; with one exception. CM7 will mount the "Media" partition, and changes there will be reflected on the stock OS (this partition just stores your files, pictures, music, etc; nothing related to the system).
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Will the performance suffer from running it from the SD card? Are there benefits to installing on the internal memory?
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Yes, performance will suffer. I used to run from SD card, until i finally gave up and tried internal. Internal is much faster, and of course makes it easier to use you SD card for pure storage.
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Also, if I do install it to the internal memory, how do you use it as a normal NC? Do you just get the Android Nook app?
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Normal NC? You mean as just an eReader? Yes, you would just use the market version of the nook app.
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How does that compare to the actual Nook software? Do you lose any functionality?
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From what i have seen, you will lose the "Read to me" functionality, and the look and feel of the market version is different of that of the stock version. But, by using CM7 (or rooting stock), you can gain access to Kindle and Google books, which kind of makes up for it.
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My wife will use hers primarily as an e reader whereas mine will be a tablet first.
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I would say for you, CM7 internal would be good (remember, you can always put the stock OS back on if you change your mind), and the stock OS best for you wife.
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Does anyone have experience using different browsers like Skyfire and Opera? Those are what I use a lot on my phone. I have seen the name Dolphin HDused alot, but I don't know anything about it.
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Opera is by far the best browser; it is the only browser with renders web pages with the GPU; this is what allows smooth scrolling and page views (like the iPad has). Dolphin is nothing more than a skin of the stock browser, and isn't worth worrying about.
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I am sorry for all the questions and if my terminology is not 100% accurate. I am, as the welcome video says; a noob.
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Remember, we are ALL "noobs" at one point in our life. Being willing to ask and learn is how you stop being one.
Nard Dog said:
Also, if I do install it to the internal memory, how do you use it as a normal NC? Do you just get the Android Nook app? How does that compare to the actual Nook software? Do you lose any functionality? My wife will use hers primarily as an e reader whereas mine will be a tablet first.
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The Android Nook app loses:
* Read To Me
* Shelves
* A quick shortcut to the current book you're reading
It gains a couple of features: a fancy page-turn animation, and a true black & white "night" mode. (The stock reader's night mode is more of an off-white on dark gray, if I remember right.)
If your wife has a lot of nook books, she may really miss the shelves feature. Without it all books are listed on one page, ordered by Title, Author or Most Recent. That's most recently purchased, not most recently read.
With no shortcut, every time you return to the app you have to scroll through all the books you have downloaded to find the one you're currently reading. That could be annoying if you've got a few dozen or more loaded.
I get around both problems by using a third-party reader. But to use it, I have to strip the DRM from the books I own, which is at best a gray area legally.
Most people who read a lot will probably get more out of a stock nook, or better still, a nootered nook. If it's nootered (rooted), you get all the features of the stock reader, as well as the ability to download any number of other applications including Kindle and Overdrive (the library lending app.)
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I would say for you, CM7 internal would be good (remember, you can always put the stock OS back on if you change your mind), and the stock OS best for you wife.
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Thank you very much for the input. Your answers have highlighted the fact that I need to do a lot more research. I am not even sure what the NC can do out of the box. While the wifey will use it primarily as a reader, she also wants to be able to play games and download apps. Can this still be done on the stock OS? Can you install a different browser (opera) on the stock OS? I've seen the term "rooted stock" but haven't read up on it much since I figured I'd just have to root them to do what we both want. I'm guessing "rooted stock" is somewhere between being rooted and keeping the stock OS. Would this allow using the native reader intetface while still allowing access to apps via the Android market? If I can get it so she has a nice browser, can play games (Angry Birds, etc) and keep the native reader (which she really likes) that would be perfect. BTW, before anyone starts yelling "USE THE SEARCH NOON" like they do on some forums I have visited, I know these answers are probably all on this forum somewhere and I am continuing to research on my own. I have been and will be reading a ton of old posts, etc. But, it is also helpful to have one thread to list all of the questions that pop into my head.
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I was new to Android a couple months ago and hesitant to root so I decided to put CM7 on an sdcard. I bought a cheap card and the thing worked but it was agonizingly slow. I bought a Sandisk 8GB class 4 and it works GREAT - very fast. I have never overclocked (haven't gotten the nerve for that yet) and it is very speedy for my needs. I later rooted stock which is what I recommend for your wife. You put a launcher on (I like zeam) and then you have your B&N shelves and access to the Android market as well. BTW, you can also get the Amazon Appstore and check it out daily because they put up a free app every day - very cool.
Good luck with your decision. I love my Nook!
Cool, so it looks like it'll be CM7 for me and nootered for her.
One more question since I have your attention. Is there a way to tether the NC to my Droid X and connect to the internet? My Droid X is totally stock and I have no desire to root it or mod it in any way. I have used PDAnet to tether to my laptop, so I'm looking for something similar to that.
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I can tether my Win Mobile phone (getting an Android phone as soon as my contract runs out!) to my NC. My phone creates an ad hoc connection and I had to make a small change on the Nook to get it to work. I'm pretty sure you will have no problem. Just search and you will find the details specific to your phone.
The only (wireless) tethering you can do WITHOUT rooting is the paid Verizon service. No other wireless rooting will work (all need superuser). I gotta ask though - any reason you don't want to root the X? Its not really anything different from rooting your nook..
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I gotta ask though - any reason you don't want to root the X? Its not really anything different from rooting your nook..
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I guess it's really just fear. If I brick my phone, I am royally screwed. If I brick the Nook, it would suck, but it's more of a toy anyway. I know it's probably very safe and easy, but I just keep thinking of the horror stories I read when I thought about rooting my Q9m back in the day. That said it is very likely that once I root the Nook, I will end up rooting my phone. Baby steps
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Specs-wise, I mean? The community here looks awesome, and the devs look fantastic, but it is 7-month old hardware. I suppose it won't much matter for what I'd be doing with it, but I was curious to get some input.
Pls note that it is a pure eReader that can turn into full tablet.
How will the next gen. NC look? Nobody knows yet.
I just bought one and running CM7 off the SD and love it. I use it as a tablet and have readers on it and don't miss the B&N software but can always take card out and use it for that. I think for $249.00 and you can get like new refurbished ones from B&N for about $200 and I hear they even come with a case, you can not beat the deal. Love the screen! I would buy one again.
I just got mine last Sunday, and it's pretty nice. It really depends on what you plan to do with it. If you want something that you can use with a stylus, then this isn't for you.
If you want to play some Angry Birds, watch netflix, catch the news, take some notes, and do everything your phone can do on a larger screen (minus having a Mic and a phone), then this would be for you.
Specs don't mean jack (to a point) - it's rather what it can do for you.
At a $250 price point at with only slightly lower specs then the Galaxy tab (and less then half the cost) which includes a new B&N membership ($27 discount with B&N membership + $25 for the membership), it's a good deal if it meets your wants/needs.
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I just got mine last Sunday, and it's pretty nice. It really depends on what you plan to do with it. If you want something that you can use with a stylus, then this isn't for you.
If you want to play some Angry Birds, watch netflix, catch the news, take some notes, and do everything your phone can do on a larger screen (minus having a Mic and a phone), then this would be for you.
Specs don't mean jack (to a point) - it's rather what it can do for you.
At a $250 price point at with only slightly lower specs then the Galaxy tab (and less then half the cost) which includes a new B&N membership ($27 discount with B&N membership + $25 for the membership), it's a good deal if it meets your wants/needs.
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I agree for the most part, but the stylus comment is interesting.
I'm using one. Is there a reason you'd not recommend it for stylus?
majorpay said:
I just got mine last Sunday, and it's pretty nice. It really depends on what you plan to do with it. If you want something that you can use with a stylus, then this isn't for you.
If you want to play some Angry Birds, watch netflix, catch the news, take some notes, and do everything your phone can do on a larger screen (minus having a Mic and a phone), then this would be for you.
Specs don't mean jack (to a point) - it's rather what it can do for you.
At a $250 price point at with only slightly lower specs then the Galaxy tab (and less then half the cost) which includes a new B&N membership ($27 discount with B&N membership + $25 for the membership), it's a good deal if it meets your wants/needs.
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Thanks for the thoughts. Actually, I want to read. Mostly. I read a lot of pdfs, and the Kindle can't deal with pdfs well, and it's a pain to have to use a computer. Plus, I love playing around with CM7!
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I agree for the most part, but the stylus comment is interesting.
I'm using one. Is there a reason you'd not recommend it for stylus?
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From all my research, the worst issue with this device is the sensitivity of the screen. Even with the sensitivity hacked, it does not perform continuous swipes. So things like drawing and writing (from what I understand) are not all that great on this device.
tekhna said:
Thanks for the thoughts. Actually, I want to read. Mostly. I read a lot of pdfs, and the Kindle can't deal with pdfs well, and it's a pain to have to use a computer. Plus, I love playing around with CM7!
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Then this would sound like your kind of toy. Kindle seems to work well, and so does the Nook app, but I have found that the Nook app has certain books that fail to load (namely a few that come with the download). I haven't looked into the reason for that, but it says "unsupported format." I just haven't cared enough about it to really research that particular issue. Outside of that, it's been pretty impressive for the price.
Hey guys... well for my birthday I'm getting a good amount of $... and need a cheap tablet cuz I want to buy a computor too, my question is, is there something like odin for the galaxy s lines? That makes it basicly unbrickable? And how is the progress with cm7? Is mostly everything working? Thanks guys.
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Hey guys... well for my birthday I'm getting a good amount of $... and need a cheap tablet cuz I want to buy a computor too, my question is, is there something like odin for the galaxy s lines? That makes it basicly unbrickable? And how is the progress with cm7? Is mostly everything working? Thanks guys.
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With the NC, you have to try really hard to brick it. If you are worried about bricking, run CM7 from an SDcard. As long as you don't do anything silly like formatting the internal emmc or something, you're safe.
If you choose to go the stock + root, or install CM7 to internal route, you'll end up installing something called ClockworkMod which has the various recovery, backup, flash type things to help prevent bad things.
And status of CM7? CM7 NC edition is what all the vendor *supported* Gingerbread's should be aspiring towards. That's how good it is. *fanboi*
As always, YMMV.
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Hey guys... well for my birthday I'm getting a good amount of $... and need a cheap tablet cuz I want to buy a computor too, my question is, is there something like odin for the galaxy s lines? That makes it basicly unbrickable? And how is the progress with cm7? Is mostly everything working? Thanks guys.
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Since the nook boots from uSD first (hard wired and coded into the hardware) it is unbrickable...
That being said... always generate images of all partitions prior to messing around with it... there is device specific information stored on mmcblk0p2 and mmcblk0p3... if you lose those partitions and don't have backups... it can get quite interesting restoring it... if you have the backups... its pretty easy.
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With the NC, you have to try really hard to brick it. If you are worried about bricking, run CM7 from an SDcard. As long as you don't do anything silly like formatting the internal emmc or something, you're safe.
If you choose to go the stock + root, or install CM7 to internal route, you'll end up installing something called ClockworkMod which has the various recovery, backup, flash type things to help prevent bad things.
And status of CM7? CM7 NC edition is what all the vendor *supported* Gingerbread's should be aspiring towards. That's how good it is. *fanboi*
As always, YMMV.
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Thanks... I'm pretty experiance with android and rooting, I have an epic 4g... hopefully if I get this ill put on cm7 cuz we don't have a working version yet on the epic .... and do you think a refurb would be good for me to get, I want to spend the least amount of $. And would I just walk into b&n and say I want a refurb nook color? Thanks man.
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Thanks... I'm pretty experiance with android and rooting, I have an epic 4g... hopefully if I get this ill put on cm7 cuz we don't have a working version yet on the epic .... and do you think a refurb would be good for me to get, I want to spend the least amount of $. And would I just walk into b&n and say I want a refurb nook color? Thanks man.
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I'm seeing them for 200 at Overstock, which means no sales tax either!
http://www.overstock.com/Electronic...oble-Certified-Pre-Owned/5924200/product.html
@deano0714
Most folks have been getting refurbs from the BN store on ebay. AFAIK, those come with a 1yr warranty. My local BN's don't stock refurbs, so I don't know if that's even a possibility.
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Hey guys... well for my birthday I'm getting a good amount of $... and need a cheap tablet cuz I want to buy a computor too, my question is, is there something like odin for the galaxy s lines? That makes it basicly unbrickable? And how is the progress with cm7? Is mostly everything working? Thanks guys.
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LOL I am coming from the Captivate and on an Infuse....k
It seems its kinda weird how they use some terminology or sometimes don't when compared to phones...
Anyways great great tablet. Rivals any screen I think. Use Nook Tweaks to boost the internal speaker, just do it carefully and Dahlgin's OC Kernel to OC to 1.2Ghz.... Your Tab will like it more.
Use the instructions here. It will allow you to dual boot which is the basic idea. With the instructions, all of CM7 gingerbread runs completely on the SDcard, so all you are corrupting is the SD if you mess something up. Nook Color OS stays untouched!
Also if on Windows 7, use the Win32DiskImager. Recognized my drive better.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
slider2828 said:
LOL I am coming from the Captivate and on an Infuse....k
It seems its kinda weird how they use some terminology or sometimes don't when compared to phones...
Anyways great great tablet. Rivals any screen I think. Use Nook Tweaks to boost the internal speaker, just do it carefully and Dahlgin's OC Kernel to OC to 1.2Ghz.... Your Tab will like it more.
Use the instructions here. It will allow you to dual boot which is the basic idea. With the instructions, all of CM7 gingerbread runs completely on the SDcard, so all you are corrupting is the SD if you mess something up. Nook Color OS stays untouched!
Also if on Windows 7, use the Win32DiskImager. Recognized my drive better.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
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Will I have to buy a class 10 sd for running on sd?
Edit: also with themeing the nook would I have to change the resoulution if I were to port something over too the nook from the epic? Or would the hdpi be good enough?
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Will I have to buy a class 10 sd for running on sd?
Edit: also with themeing the nook would I have to change the resoulution if I were to port something over too the nook from the epic? Or would the hdpi be good enough?
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Class speeds are not as important as are random read speeds. From what I've read, Sandisk Class 4 is the king here.
Absolutely correct - Actually, the higher the class of card that is used, the more horror stories I hear! Stick with a basic SanDisk class 4 card and you'll be fine.
i felt the same way, op... until MIUI dropped! new love all over again
I would definitely recommend it, along with ezPDF reader if you will be reading a lot of PDFs. From my own experience, it was a pain to get a "good" NC -- the first couple had screen issues/dead pixels and I had to fight with B&N's customer service to finally get one without major issues. Most people seem to get perfect ones right from the start though. Beyond that, CM7 is FAN-TASTIC. I had some random issues with it on a microSD card (an 8gb a-data class 6, so it could have been issues with the card) but it's been super reliable after i installed to emmc. As far as specs go, it will easily overclock and i can't tell a difference in performance compared to my thunderbolt. I've still yet to see a comparable tablet for this price, based on performance and screen quality.
Hi,
I am looking to purchase a 32GB SD card pre-installed with CM7 or CM7.1 for my Nook Color. I do not feel comfortable at this point in burning my own card and would appreciate any recommendations you would have in regards to purchasing a card from a reputable vendor that would have tested the card before it was put up for resale and that also offers technical support for the product that they sell.
Thanks,
Al
Don't waste your money buying a pre-loaded CM7 uSD... it is easy enough to do yourself... and you have an awesome bunch of testers here to help you out.
Buy a 4 GB and 32 GB Sandisk uSD's.... (the 4 GB is a just in case... and can be used for other things like CWR incase needed later)
get the tools needed...
EASUS or MiniTools Partition Manager
win32disk imager
VeryGreen's Size Agnostic SD image (1.3 version)
When you have that stuff... if you can't get it done via the SASD thread.... post and we'll help you out.
The only site I've heard about offering consistent follow-up support is n2acards.com. Before you go that route, you might want to look over the SD install link in my sig, which is just a more user-friendly breakdown of verygreen's instructions. You may find it's simpler than you think.
It's really not that hard. Really all you need are 4 things:
-A PC
-Method of Burning img files (win32disk imager for Win, DD in Mac and Linux)
-4gb+ MicroSD w/card reader
-verygreen's sd installer w/ cm7 file and gapps file
If you need any help just post here and plenty of people here will walk you through it.
We never reccomend buying pre-loaded cards because CM7 is open-source so charging people for it is against the license and the money you spend on it won't go to the CM7 Devs anyway.
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We never reccomend buying pre-loaded cards because CM7 is open-source so charging people for it is against the license and the money you spend on it won't go to the CM7 Devs anyway.
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Is that the royal "we?" I personally have no problem with people opting to spend their money rather than their time to obtain a CM card. Most forms of Linux are open source, but people pay every day to have others set up and support Linux systems.
Send Me a card
Send me a 2Gb card and I will burn it for you its a piece of piss even for an old man like me
I almost purchased a CM7 uSD until I read how easy it was. Just follow the instructions thatvhave been stated before and you should have no issues. Although, why the heck would you need a 32GB and a 4GB uSD. I have an 8GB uSD (Sandisk Class 4) and haven't had any issues. Considering you get the option of rebooting into the recovering you flashed from within CM7 there is no reason for the other uSD. Jut making a point here, Its not hard to make an SD bootable. I can do it in 3 minutes, no reason for the other card.
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The original poster seems to be posting this question at several sites. I wonder if it is a true request for help or a way of getting some more advertising for N2A.....
Hello everyone!
Thought i'd register an account finally and share a little project I've been working on for the past few months at my job. I'll try to keep this short, and answer technical questions about the process, if anyone is interested of course
I've been flashing various WinMo and Android devices for years, and had just recently picked up a Nook Color at the time. Well within a hour I was running CM7 on it, and just couldn't believe how much potential was unlocked on this cheap little tablet!
Months back at work, we were trying to figure out a better/more portable way to display product demonstration videos to our customers. We used TV's and DVD player to demo product videos, but that made it a pain to show specific items to customers, without changing the DVD chapter for the whole showroom. So we started tossing around the idea of a portable DVD player or tablet, and it took off from there.
Eventually we had the idea of doing a trial run of tablets in the showrooms with a video player and videos of the product formatted for the tablet. Initially we tried using Acer Iconia tablets, but they were way too bulky to carry around all day. So we settled on using Nook Colors because of the size and the fact that we could hook a lanyard on so the sales associates wouldn't drop them! Those features sealed the deal and we did a trial run of 7 Nooks in the Florida showrooms. Needless to say, being able to show products video demos on demand were a huge hit for our customers and ended up deploying about 300 nooks to all our nation wide retail locations!
It was a crazy few months, and we had a lot of technical hurdles to overcome, but the last of the 300 Nooks arrived in the showrooms at the beginning of the week, and they have had nothing but RAVE reviews from customers.
I think using these Nooks running CyanogenMod as a retail selling tool is a huge milestone for mobile computing use in the retail environment.
Would love to have hear feedback and like I said if anyone is interested in how we accomplished this technically i'll gladly provide details!
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I took a Nook and did the initial flash to CM7. Then I completely locked down everything but the Video Player, Calculator, and Screen Brightness Widget. This including disabling many APKs / processes that were not needed that would just sit in the background, wasting battery. Any other applications that couldn't be disabled such as the settings menu are locked down with a password app. Since we're using this as a selling tool, we didn't want anyone browsing the internet or playing Angry Birds, so Play and wireless settings were also passworded. Then I cleaned up the interface and used the launcher to hide all the applications that are either for diagnostics or were simply locked down.
Next I took a CWM Backup of our master Nook and copied that image to a CWM bootable card. I opted to leave the stock Nook recovery on there and go with the bootable to prevent... Tampering.
So basically once I got the process down to a science, we ramped up production and started flashing them in bulk.
For the last step, I put hundreds of product videos formatted for the Nooks native resolution onto a separate SD card and we used a card duplicator to create 300 cards that were installed into each device before we shipped them out.
So in a nutshell we take a Nook, pop in the ClockworkMod Recovery card, restore the Backup, and within 5 to 10 minutes I have a fully customized nook that just needs the admin password changed, video card, and then it's ready to go.
Ray Detwiler
WOW! I am impressed. What a great use of our Nook Colors. Thank you for sharing that with us.
Thanks!
Nice work! I bet you love your job. It must be great getting to play with all of those tablets, not to mention the innovating involved. Sounds like a real hoot!
This sounds awesome, I would love to buy one, in fact.
Awesome!!!! Are you at the Phantom in Kenosha? I'm making a Wisconsin trip (from Chicago) tomorrow for beer, cheese, and fireworks.
a1cshowoff said:
Awesome!!!! Are you at the Phantom in Kenosha? I'm making a Wisconsin trip (from Chicago) tomorrow for beer, cheese, and fireworks.
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That's great to hear! I'm at the corporate office in Youngstown, Ohio but if you're stopping in at the Racine showroom (looks to be about 20 mins from Kenosha) They'll have a couple of nooks on the floor for you to take a look at.
phatwila said:
It was a crazy few months, and we had a lot of technical hurdles to overcome, but the last of the 300 Nooks arrived in the showrooms at the beginning of the week, and they have had nothing but RAVE reviews from customers.
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If you don't mind expanding a bit, what are some of the technical hurdles you encountered?
Sure thing!
I took a Nook and did the initial flash to CM7. Then I completely locked down everything but the Video Player, Calculator, and Screen Brightness Widget. This including disabling many APKs / processes that were not needed that would just sit in the background, wasting battery. Any other applications that couldn't be disabled such as the settings menu are locked down with a password app. Since we're using this as a selling tool, we didn't want anyone browsing the internet or playing Angry Birds, so Play and wireless settings were also passworded. Then I cleaned up the interface and used the launcher to hide all the applications that are either for diagnostics or were simply locked down.
Next I took a CWM Backup of our master Nook and copied that image to a CWM bootable card. I opted to leave the stock Nook recovery on there and go with the bootable to prevent... Tampering.
So basically once I got the process down to a science, we ramped up production and started flashing them in bulk.
For the last step, I put hundreds of product videos formatted for the Nooks native resolution onto a separate SD card and we used a card duplicator to create 300 cards that were installed into each device before we shipped them out.
So in a nutshell we take a Nook, pop in the ClockworkMod Recovery card, restore the Backup, and within 5 to 10 minutes I have a fully customized nook that just needs the admin password changed, video card, and then it's ready to go.
Do they have the Nook Colors at the Herculaneum, MO store? I may have to check them out when I go down that way to play underground Disc Golf.
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Do they have the Nook Colors at the Herculaneum, MO store? I may have to check them out when I go down that way to play underground Disc Golf.
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Yep, they do
Out of curiously did you talk to the cyanogen team about this? or donate any money to them?
For 300 retail nooks running cyanogen I hope you donated a good chunk of money to them.
As far as I know its for private use, not a retail company.
You guys need any more? I'm looking to let mine go on Swappa http://swappa.com/listing/GNP935/view
Great job!
were any of these nooks the "blue dot"? the newer ones with the partitions so that there is only a gig for "SideLoad"? i have been fighting with one for a long time...
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Sure thing!
I took a Nook and did the initial flash to CM7. Then I completely locked down everything but the Video Player, Calculator, and Screen Brightness Widget. This including disabling many APKs / processes that were not needed that would just sit in the background, wasting battery. Any other applications that couldn't be disabled such as the settings menu are locked down with a password app. Since we're using this as a selling tool, we didn't want anyone browsing the internet or playing Angry Birds, so Play and wireless settings were also passworded. Then I cleaned up the interface and used the launcher to hide all the applications that are either for diagnostics or were simply locked down.
Next I took a CWM Backup of our master Nook and copied that image to a CWM bootable card. I opted to leave the stock Nook recovery on there and go with the bootable to prevent... Tampering.
So basically once I got the process down to a science, we ramped up production and started flashing them in bulk.
For the last step, I put hundreds of product videos formatted for the Nooks native resolution onto a separate SD card and we used a card duplicator to create 300 cards that were installed into each device before we shipped them out.
So in a nutshell we take a Nook, pop in the ClockworkMod Recovery card, restore the Backup, and within 5 to 10 minutes I have a fully customized nook that just needs the admin password changed, video card, and then it's ready to go.
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Very cool. Thanks for responding!
Wow!
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Hello everyone!
Needless to say, being able to show products video demos on demand were a huge hit for our customers and ended up deploying about 300 nooks to all our nation wide retail locations!
Ray
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Ray:
It's great to see that B.J. Alan is innovating in 1.4g sales. As you know, it's a weird business, and I have to congratulate you on an ambitious project that will doubtless help see more of the high-end 200g and 500g items. I am an APA member that does mostly 1.3g stuff, and I admire your foresight and hard work. Keep it up and thanks for sharing!
Best,
David Lynch
Berserk87 said:
Out of curiously did you talk to the cyanogen team about this? or donate any money to them?
For 300 retail nooks running cyanogen I hope you donated a good chunk of money to them.
As far as I know its for private use, not a retail company.
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While I can't comment on finances, I will say that CM is released under the Apache 2.0 and GPLv2 licenses, which allow for this type of deployment. Think of it this way: Tens of thousands of people over the next few months who have never been exposed to CyanogenMod and OSS are going to see these devices. That amount of free marketing is priceless. I do believe that either way, it is a win-win for all parties involved.
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were any of these nooks the "blue dot"? the newer ones with the partitions so that there is only a gig for "SideLoad"? i have been fighting with one for a long time...
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While all our nooks were pre-blue refurbs, our initial test run devices were blue dotted. There's scripts you can run to revert back to the original partition schemes if needed. For us, 95% of the data was on our 16GB SD cards so we weren't that concerned about the partitions, but I did test the re-partitioning scripts and they worked fine. That thread is located here if your interested:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094371
Hope that helps!
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Ray:
It's great to see that B.J. Alan is innovating in 1.4g sales. As you know, it's a weird business, and I have to congratulate you on an ambitious project that will doubtless help see more of the high-end 200g and 500g items. I am an APA member that does mostly 1.3g stuff, and I admire your foresight and hard work. Keep it up and thanks for sharing!
Best,
David Lynch
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Thank you for the kind words David! It is really appreciated!