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[REQUEST] $200+ in donations for working TV out w/CM.

In the quest for the ultimate device, CM gets pretty close. A bunch of people on the CM forums are chiming in with donations for working TV-out for the Incredible, and I wanted to cross-post it here to hopefully garner some more attention and interest.
The goal here is to have working TV out without compromising any other main functionality (like Bluetooth on Sense ROMs).
Not sure if it's possible at all, but if I can attach my phone to my TV and play SNES with my kids using Wiimotes, I will chip in my $20 bucks, and a bunch of other people will too.
The donation count was up to 160 bucks on CM forums as of the time of this post, and I have 3 friends that will chip in as well.

If it happened, I'd donate. CM already deserves donations, but this would up the amount for sure.

Dude thats sick you can get SNES games on the Incredible than (if) this gets fixed hook it to the TV and play it on the TV using wiimotes... can you use xbox remotes instead, you say that it can be done on sense but you loose bluetooth, so can I hook it to the tv on sense and use a wiimote? or xbox remote if works cos thats what i have lol

i'd chip in if that happens (and before i jump ship and get an Incredible HD lol), absolutely

Dude thats sick you can get SNES games on the Incredible than (if) this gets fixed hook it to the TV and play it on the TV using wiimotes... can you use xbox remotes instead, you say that it can be done on sense but you loose bluetooth, so can I hook it to the tv on sense and use a wiimote? or xbox remote if works cos thats what i have lol
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I'm pretty sure tv out works on other (sense-less) roms, it's just a cyanogenmod issue. Use a different rom & it should work. I know nothing about video game systems past the ps1, so does the xbox 360 have bluetooth controllers? If it does, there should be an app on the market for it.

ACD168 said:
Dude thats sick you can get SNES games on the Incredible than (if) this gets fixed hook it to the TV and play it on the TV using wiimotes... can you use xbox remotes instead, you say that it can be done on sense but you loose bluetooth, so can I hook it to the tv on sense and use a wiimote? or xbox remote if works cos thats what i have lol
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The Xbox 360 controllers work via radio, not bluetooth. Just an FYI.

ACD168 said:
Dude thats sick you can get SNES games on the Incredible than (if) this gets fixed hook it to the TV and play it on the TV using wiimotes... can you use xbox remotes instead, you say that it can be done on sense but you loose bluetooth, so can I hook it to the tv on sense and use a wiimote? or xbox remote if works cos thats what i have lol
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Why not just get SNES9x for PC and hook up your pc to the tv via HDMI, use a bluetooth dongle to connect the wiimote to the pc for a controller and there you go. Thats what I do

g00s3y said:
Why not just get SNES9x for PC and hook up your pc to the tv via HDMI, use a bluetooth dongle to connect the wiimote to the pc for a controller and there you go. Thats what I do
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thats what i do too, the bluetooth dongle was $2 on amazon and everything else was already in place for me.

I would also chip in $20! It is the only thing that I really miss of HTC Sense.

Bluetooth is required to connect the Wiimote to the phone. The Bluetooth stack on sense roms is a piece of crap and doesn't allow modern protocols.
As for the computer thing, I want to be able to do this in the car, at a friends, or anywhere that doesn't involve lugging around a computer. That's why I have a smartphone.
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From what I read they had to reverse engineer the entire HDMI stack to get HDMI working on the EVO -- I'm guessing they'd have to do the same to get TV-OUT working on the the DInc? Heh... or we could all save up cuz the DInc HD is alleged to be "revealed" on Jan 6th. A device that basically looks like a VzW EVO. ;P
But seriously... I'd give it a go and even help if we had source code. But I don't think you get source code when you reverse engineer...

+1 on this. There's got to be some way to get both bluetooth and TV out functioning on the same rom. The wiimote+tv out idea is pretty much the reason I got the incredible when it came out, only to discover that its now been nearly a year with no solution to this!

I may have to buy a TV-out cable and see if I can get some extra money! LOL!

Go for it!!! (connect 4!!)

I will throw $50 into the pot for whoever gets this working. I know Netflix is not here yet, but I got the DInc so that once it did, I could stream to my TVs, specifically the one in my car.

ericlmccormick said:
I will throw $50 into the pot for whoever gets this working. I know Netflix is not here yet, but I got the DInc so that once it did, I could stream to my TVs, specifically the one in my car.
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AND ericlmccormick, FROM THE AUDIENCE, WITH A STEEL CHAIR!!! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD!!

This donation to make a rom/tweak **** is getting insane. As far as Netflix, they say Android is too insecure of a platform, however a new phone that was just showcased had a NetFlix app icon on the homescreen. Hmmmm.....

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This donation to make a rom/tweak **** is getting insane. As far as Netflix, they say Android is too insecure of a platform, however a new phone that was just showcased had a NetFlix app icon on the homescreen. Hmmmm.....
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I dunno if it's insane so much as it is a small minority of people realizing what it's gonna take to motivate those with the skill to solve the issue. Realistically, I'd bet thousands of people have an incredible in their pockets and don't even know it can do TV out, and will never try even if you told them. Verizon certainly doesn't make much noise about the feature!
And even those of us that are savvy enough to know, might never use it enough to care. How many of us are running CM6.1 right now without feeling any loss of function? Dare I say, enough people that the entire process of making CM run on an incredible went through to the point of being called "stable" without even a hint of that feature being available. I know Im running it....even though I want TV out real bad.
Theres so little steam for this, that unless we can literally "fund" the R&D to make it happen ourselves, it might just disappear as newer phones come out and development stops on the older ones. I remember in april last year being amazed that I had a phone that ran @ 1GHz. I mean, seriously. One [email protected]#$^$& gigahertz. And now, we're *****ing about the thunderbolt because it doesn't have dual cores in it! I can't recall a single year in phones where these kinds of leaps and bounds have been so constant.
The whole world of software is a strange parallel to the music industry, wherein it used to be a giant divide between "local band" and "warner bros gold record". Then we had the internet, and an entire underground revolution took place where artists on the ground level could again get their music to the masses, and since most of the middlemen were removed, it again became possible for the idea of a "modest" living on music to be made. The 10 bucks that someone pays for a vynal is going mostly to the artist, where the 25 you'd spend on a major CD might reach the artist as only 2 dollars. The artist wins, the listeners win, and the same kids who were "sticking it to the man" by downloading major releases turn around and trumpet the virtues of "support your favorite bands!!"
This whole world of phone tweaking is almost like that - for years we were lucky if a company made an app for something, and if they didn't, well, a lot of times it didn't get made. Sure, some people developed for WM, but based strictly on popularity of the platform, I couldn't do half of what I can with my android, even though there isn't a huge difference in hardware. It was also much more difficult to find the guys who made these programs - some of them were made in the 90's and just stayed part of the WM continuum for years after they should have been replaced.
Now we have a whole community based on this android os, and it feels like a lot of the middleman has been cut out of the equation - the "audience" can directly reach the "artist", and through that direct connection, can much more easily justify paying for the efforts made. It's hard to pay 60 bucks for a windows mobile app for GPS, for example, knowing that the developer at the end will see only a few cents of that. But when the price on the google market is only 5 bucks for an app, and you know a large percentage of that is going directly to the guy who put in his time and effort to make the program, it's much easier to swallow that.
When someone writes a program, Torque is a great example, that helps me, I'm willing to give the DEV some funding for it, just like I'm willing to pay for tickets to see a local show.
It's a sort of "golden age of software" that I think many have been waiting for, almost as if we get the virtues of "mom and pop shop" service, with the Walmart pricing we've come to depend on as a society.
Hell, I paid 15 bucks for the cable to make TV out function. After what I've paid for accessories for this phone, and considering I intend to keep it till t breaks, I'm certainly willing to contribute to the guy who finally gets the TV out running like it should. If I was a capable software dev, I'd do it myself. But, I'm not. I am however a mechanic, computer systems admin, musician, live sound engineer, and multitude of other things. And when someone asks for me to solve an issue in one of those areas, well, it's certainly nice to make a little scratch on it!
Sorry about the long rant, I'm drunk. And feverishly hoping someone makes this happen! Last trip I took was 12k miles of driving with no real map, in an overheating van, forgot the CD book at home, with a bunch of guys in the back begging for internet access, and we never ever had a hotel lined up before arriving at a destination. And my phone helped solve 100% of these problems, over and over again. Now if only I could get street fighter on the hotel TV from my phone (and hand a wii controller to my opponent), I could die a happy man!

Nothing but real talk man ^

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Chromecast + NFL Sunday Ticket (from Madden 25)...this could rock

So I don't know how many of you are big NFL fans like me, but if you are then there's a chance that you may have heard about the special edition of Madden NFL 25 that is currently available for preorder on Amazon. With this $99 edition, you of course get the game, but in addition you get a code for complete access to the online streaming version of NFL Sunday Ticket (all games, just as the normal DirecTV version would have), and you don't have to be a DirecTV subscriber to use it.
Anyways, I bought the special edition and will have it the end of August when it is released. All along I planned to simply bring my iMac into the living room, connect it with HDMI adapter cable, and watch the games that way. However, it looks like I've stumbled on a great setup - just have to fire up the Chrome on the iMac in the home office, Chromecast it in full screen to the livingroom, and boom, NFL Sunday Ticket on TV for 40 bucks! Absolutely can't wait to the first week of September to try this out!!! :good::good:

I considered this but Chromecast makes the alternative more enticing

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I considered this but Chromecast makes the alternative more enticing
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I'm confused...what I am planning to do is with Chromecast...what "alternative" are you talking about?

joeski27 said:
I'm confused...what I am planning to do is with Chromecast...what "alternative" are you talking about?
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I think he's talking about casting some OTHER content from the web to his TV. The 18+ kind....
But I definitely like your idea better. Myself, I am a MLB.TV subscriber and anxiously awaiting my CC :good:

He could also be referring to unofficial streaming video sites. That's how I watch the occasional Pats game when I'm not home. Not the best quality of course. Thanks to @joeski27 by the way. Hadn't heard about this special edition of Madden. I'll definitely take a look.

QuAdS17 said:
I think he's talking about casting some OTHER content from the web to his TV. The 18+ kind....
But I definitely like your idea better. Myself, I am a MLB.TV subscriber and anxiously awaiting my CC :good:
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Well yeah, I mean I think we all know that all the porn fans will totally dig CC, that's a given. I was just pointing out another very cool idea for CC use...he might as well have popped into this thread and said "the NFL thing sounds cool, but my love of watching storm chaser videos on YouTube is so much more enticing"...what's the point? All I was doing was putting out what I thought to be a nifty idea specifically regarding NFL games. Anyways, good call on your end as well with the MLB idea, and eventually the same will be true for those who subscribe other major sports packages (NHL, NBA, etc) which allow subscribers to view content online. Really the YouTube/Netflix/etc. is the tip of the iceberg, and I think will be greatly overshadowed by many options to come for this device.

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He could also be referring to unofficial streaming video sites. That's how I watch the occasional Pats game when I'm not home. Not the best quality of course.
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I did the same thing for many games the last couple of years (though my brother in law let me use his DirecTV password for online content when his father wasn't using it). This time I'm not messing around and decided that for the $40 extra with the Madden game I would guarantee myself every single game in reliably high quality...but now with CC it takes this plan concept to the next level, and for cheap. I know that if you look at the Madden 25 reviews on Amazon (not really reviews since it isn't out yet, just comments about the package really), the #1 thing people want to know is if they can stream the games from their PC/Mac to their PS3. Turns out the universal answer is a big fat no, meaning that - until now - they were stuck having to go with a hardwired PC-to-TV connection, which I resigned to doing for this upcoming season. I hadn't even thought about that aspect before buying my CC, but now that I have it it seems like extremely sweet icing on the cake for me!

Good looking out, I just now preordered that and I hate sports video games. Anyone want a copy of Madden 25 Anniversary edition that is only missing the NFL Sunday Ticket code? lol.

I'm not familiar with enough the CC on what limits and what kind of videos that it can play. I ordered one, but it was after the initial batch was sold out. I work nights, so I was asleep during the initial announcement.
I'm not sure if MLB will work. I know they use Flash Player, but it does some quirky stuff.
As for the rest, they could work. For those that have used these services, you know what you're getting. I personally use the international version of these service with a VPN. Then I can always be out of whatever market is being blacked out; it's nice to be "in" a different country for those national broadcasts. Personally, I've been using a HTPC for a few years, so this device is going to replace anything and will be more limited than the HTPC. I think it could be interesting see what people can do with it. May make it easier for those temporary setups at others' homes.
On a side note, the international NFL online service is free for those in the Netherlands, which normally runs around $200 to $250. Additional $50 for playoffs. I think they PS3/DirectTV thing runs a little over $300 if you don't have DIrectTV and Sunday Ticket. I don't know the cost if you already do and just want PS3 or mobile access, but I would assume more than $40.

MLBtv works just fine on CC. Tested it last night. For unofficial streams, first row worked really well too. I watched NFL Network using my CC for about an hour last night.
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How did you watch nfl network? So they offer a Web service or something?
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How did you watch nfl network? So they offer a Web service or something?
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First row sports is actually illegal, but I've used it for a couple years since I dropped cable.
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mjs2011 said:
First row sports is actually illegal, but I've used it for a couple years since I dropped cable.
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I see thanks. Until slingbox gets there stuff together to work with the CC illegal is the way to go for those of us without cable.

Great ... there goes another $100 Nice find! :highfive:

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Great ... there goes another $100 Nice find! :highfive:
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Same here. I'm surprised I didn't know about this sooner. I don't have either game console. I'll be looking to sell the game, so hit me up if you want it cheaper than $60

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How did you watch nfl network? So they offer a Web service or something?
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I use the NFL Game Pass service. It's a service that's available outside the USA and it's territories. Not all geographical regions, such as Canada, have it available, but Europe does. Here are some video comparisons of the NFL Game Pass versus local cable TV.
The nice thing about the NFL Game Pass, they have an Android app that lets you watch the live and replays, and also the NFL Network. You just have the get APK from someone outside the USA since Google changed how the store checks where you, so MarketEnabler doesn't work now. Maybe they'll update the app for CC. That would be interesting and cool.
They nice thing about the Game Pass service, the quality of service is more reliable and consistent. I've used sites like FrontRow, and you just never know what quality your'e going to get. The big knock, you need to get a VPN service which can run additional $8 to $15 a month on top of the cost of the service. And with VPNs and sports, you definitely want a paid VPN so you have enough bandwidth. For me, since I cut the cord and watch sports all year round, it's something I use almost everyday, so it pays for itself.
I've been using alternatives to watch sports for going on three years. So, I'm pretty familiar with how to get most sports and with good quality. I use both the PC and Android mobile devices..

New NFL Game Pass app
I have been having so much fun with my NFL GamePass app. Until they updated the app. When I opened it this afternoon, a message said it required an update from the store. Of course, I can't go to the UK play store for the new app.
Sux!!!
Maybe someone across the pond can post the new app apk? That would be lovely.
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I use the NFL Game Pass service. It's a service that's available outside the USA and it's territories. Not all geographical regions, such as Canada, have it available, but Europe does. Here are some video comparisons of the NFL Game Pass versus local cable TV.
The nice thing about the NFL Game Pass, they have an Android app that lets you watch the live and replays, and also the NFL Network. You just have the get APK from someone outside the USA since Google changed how the store checks where you, so MarketEnabler doesn't work now. Maybe they'll update the app for CC. That would be interesting and cool.
They nice thing about the Game Pass service, the quality of service is more reliable and consistent. I've used sites like FrontRow, and you just never know what quality your'e going to get. The big knock, you need to get a VPN service which can run additional $8 to $15 a month on top of the cost of the service. And with VPNs and sports, you definitely want a paid VPN so you have enough bandwidth. For me, since I cut the cord and watch sports all year round, it's something I use almost everyday, so it pays for itself.
I've been using alternatives to watch sports for going on three years. So, I'm pretty familiar with how to get most sports and with good quality. I use both the PC and Android mobile devices..
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llgavinll said:
I have been having so much fun with my NFL GamePass app. Until they updated the app. When I opened it this afternoon, a message said it required an update from the store. Of course, I can't go to the UK play store for the new app.
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Actually, you can asssuming you have downloaded it from Google Play before. If so, open Google Play, go to your apps, then All (next to installed), and just scroll down till you hit NFL Game Pass. And they now it where it's one app for both phones and tablets. The new version is needed to see the games, but NFL Network still works on the old (it works on the new one too).

This could be very interesting, my concern would be this statement, "For fans who are not currently DirecTV subscribers but are able to receive DirecTV service, they will receive a promo code entitling them to $10 off per month for their first year of service and one year of NFL Sunday Ticket Max at no additional charge."
How do they determine if you can receive the service? Or just a matter of BSing

still no
I didn't download it from the store originally because I couldn't get into the UK store last week. I was able to put it on my ipad thpugh. I'll just wait amd see when someone uploads the new apk.
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Actually, you can asssuming you have downloaded it from Google Play before. If so, open Google Play, go to your apps, then All (next to installed), and just scroll down till you hit NFL Game Pass. And they now it where it's one app for both phones and tablets. The new version is needed to see the games, but NFL Network still works on the old (it works on the new one too).
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Pretty much useless

I bought chromecast the day it came out from best buy. Since then I have used it maybe 3 times. It was more of an impulse buy since most Google stuff is awesome.
The fact that I can only use this with Netflix or YouTube is bs. Trying to get local vids to play through chrome browser is hit or miss. Most of the time it just downloads whatever movie I try to play. If I want to watch a local vid from the comp I just turn on the Xbox.
Hopefully Google gets their stuff together and let's ppl stream from the phone to the tv, then I would use it. Until then it will remain plugged into my TV taking up an HDMI port until I need to plug in something that I will use or until Google adds more functionality. And Netflix streaming sucks. Kinda a crappy "bonus" if u ask me.

Not useless, but my excitement has waned significantly. Google seems to be following the GoogleTV mode on this device too, which means we most likely won't ever see it reach its potential, for a myriad of political and monetary reasons. My similarly priced Rockchip MK808 GTV stick has lots of capabilities, but I did have to buy a control point (Lenovo N5902) and it is a bit more fiddly than Chromecast, but the power and capability makes it worth it.

What's with the incessant whining? The product has only been out for less than a month, it's still getting into customers' hands and its development is in progress. The product's capabilities were clear when you bought it (Netflix, YouTube, Google Play and Chrome tab streaming). Wait for progress or return it and save us the drama.

If you want to see what incessant whining looks like, please visit any Logitech Revue GTV forum...
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I see a lot of people complaining that this device only does what google said it would do. I don't understand this. When the SDK is officially released and apps start appearing then you will get extra functionality but until then don't complain that you can do exactly what was advertised.

I agree, chromecast is pretty much useless.
Casting from a Chrome browser tab gives me a low quality picture.
I'm back to using hdmi cable.
It will gather dust until someday Google permits Fling to function again.
Or maybe until the next garage sale?
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I'm pretty happy with it so far. Netflix support is great and Play Movies is (in my opinion) the best place to purchase digital movies. Really the only thing it's missing for me is playing *ahem* acquired movies.

I am happy with it so far.
I have never been a big youtube user because i don't like to sit at the computer and watch videos. Chromcasting youtube has been a ton of fun for me over the past couple of weeks. I find it a little easier than using youtube in the browser on my htpc with the keyboard. I experience less eyestrain looking at the tablet in my hands than trying to navigate youtube the screen 10+ feet away.
...but hoping the pace of new casting enabled apps picks up.

HowardZ said:
I agree, chromecast is pretty much useless.
Casting from a Chrome browser tab gives me a low quality picture.
I'm back to using hdmi cable.
It will gather dust until someday Google permits Fling to function again.
Or maybe until the next garage sale?
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Thats funny since the app you loved so much uses the same video compress as the chrome browser. I cant beleive anyone is happy flinging <480p video(as far as i know the 500px width is about the highest quality webm video they've gotten to go to the chromecast. Its a neat tool but not practical for transcoding hidef video(or even dvd)

I agree with the current lack of usability. Hopefully new functions will appear soon.

It does what Google said it would do. More functionality hopefully will come and should come. But I use Chromecast daily for watching Breaking Bad and YouTube for my son
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I got mine about a week ago ir less after being on backorder for 4 weeks. I too HOPE we get more functionality from it soon/in time. BUT it has been nice to have for me for the price. My living room big tv has directCRAPtv connected to it which is okay but no other real devices except dvd player and vhs bel8eve it or not (which hardly ever get used).
So for the price it cost $42 shipped even with netflix it is worth thst little money. We have 3 roku's connected in three other rooms with netflix already, Hulu+ and they cost what about 3 times as much and dont do much more than this.
Since we have already seen some PREVIEW apps that shows what it CAN DO I know in time it will have more usage available. Hell I remember when the google market didnt have many apps with my first android device. I kept seeing comparisons (as stupid as they were) about iCrap having way mire apps available. Some things like this Chromecast start off slowly but I bet most apps worth streaming will work soon enough. So for the price I paid I can wait a while for the functionality I want.
I am an adult and have some patience. We have already seen Google response to the local streaming content. So I know in time it will come. So no worries. I probabky wont buy another 1 or more until it has the functionality/apps ready. But for the price and features already it is worth it. I rather watch the netflix on the 72" screen than my rooms 3w inch screens, let alone my tab or phone. Do I watch it on the other devices? Yes. So I feel the difference in the big screen...
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If you want to see what incessant whining looks like, please visit any Logitech Revue GTV forum...
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No offense to you but a good amount of that "incessant whining" is highly justified. Logitech pretty much has left us with a device that is buggy beyond belief. If I can't do simple stuff like YouTube without having to reformat it every other day then it's a fail in my opinion. Aw well once I can get my hands on the MiniX Neo X7 then I'm done with the Revue once and for all.

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No offense to you but a good amount of that "incessant whining" is highly justified. Logitech pretty much has left us with a device that is buggy beyond belief. If I can't do simple stuff like YouTube without having to reformat it every other day then it's a fail in my opinion. Aw well once I can get my hands on the MiniX Neo X7 then I'm done with the Revue once and for all.
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None taken...I felt your pain for a few weeks before throwing in the towel on that product (ow, the pain of early adopter). My point is that we've 'been here before' with some Google widget that fell short of its promise, owing to a too-early, 'not ready for prime-time player' (nod to the SNL oldsters out there) and disorganised messages about updates and direction of development. If they're hunkering down in attempt to curry favor with big media companies (learned a lesson from GTV?), we're in for a long wait, and likely a hampered SDK, Still, I like what I've seen from these third-party devs (Bubble, ALL/Air, etc.), and hope we see a quick release and uptick on 'indie' dev that doesn't necessarily promote Google's own agenda.
edit: I'm curious why you prefer the Minix X7 over a recent MK Rockchip stick?

What is useless is this thread. Please remember this is a developers forum and not a complaint site. Unless you have something that contributes to development do not create threads.
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Chromecast apps besides netflix, youtube,play music,

Why cant mobile tab cast yet? I hardly ever usemky clunky laptop. Inprefer not to.
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Because?
It's in beta, what do you expect?

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Because?
It's in beta, what do you expect?
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You know what, my check that paid for my Chromecast was in Beta. Sorry if it doesn't work!

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You know what, my check that paid for my Chromecast was in Beta. Sorry if it doesn't work!
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Wow, I didn't realize people were so ignorant about beta products / early adopters.
If you don't want to be a guinea pig, don't buy a first gen product.

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Wow, I didn't realize people were so ignorant about beta products / early adopters.
If you don't want to be a guinea pig, don't buy a first gen product.
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You know what, my check that paid for my Chromecast was in Beta. Sorry if it doesn't work!
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lol, I actually thought his comment was funny and should be taken less seriously. "Lighten up Francis".
Personally, I don't mind $35 for this device in its current state, but I can understand others' frustration. It's not free like many beta programs AND it's intentionally crippled (I understand why, not that I fully agree, but that's just my opinion).
YouTube... eh...
Netflix... seems like everything I like isn't available on streaming
Google Music... inefficient; other easier, simpler ways to play music on speakers, lol.
Personal movie collection and family videos... would be nice... patiently waiting...

My chromecast is on its way. My living room is already a media paradise though. Ps3 and Xbox and bluray player can all stream personal videos and downloads and Netflix. Being in Canada it cost me like $75 when all was said and done to get my chromecast which is way less functional than anything I already have. I can stream any music I want through my surround sound from my nexus 7 or 4 even my chromebook or PC with Bluetooth. And of all that fails for some reason the HDMI cable coming from my PC can do all of that media stuff very efficiently. So why did I spend all that money on a chromecast, well I don't know. But I can't wait to find out what this thing will be able to do eventually after the nerds get SDK accessibility. The future is bright my friends. Let's just hope its not a flop like Google TV. But I think they learned a valuable lesson there.
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I too am looking forward to when it can do more. Wonder what challenges they are facing to get the SDK finalized etc.
For someone living in a smaller space like myself its great to have the combo of all access and the ability to control your music in the living room from the bed room. The best part about this over google tv...this was only $35, minimal investment.

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Wow, I didn't realize people were so ignorant about beta products / early adopters.
If you don't want to be a guinea pig, don't buy a first gen product.
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Amen.

I feel the real issue isn't that it's beta/1st gen, we aren't talking about "bugs" here. The issue is this, if the SDK is still in beta, and we can't know its capabilities until that's done, then don't issue an "update" breaking it's current capabilities. Everyone was happy with what it could do while the SDK was still in beta, but then they "updated" it to remove nearly all of its functionality, while still not providing the final SDK and capabilities. This is akin to buying a 1st gen car, then the dealer says "we are going to release new ECU software that will change the way is works soon, but for now, we are going to make it only go 15MPH until we can release that software.

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I feel the real issue isn't that it's beta/1st gen, we aren't talking about "bugs" here. The issue is this, if the SDK is still in beta, and we can't know its capabilities until that's done, then don't issue an "update" breaking it's current capabilities. Everyone was happy with what it could do while the SDK was still in beta, but then they "updated" it to remove nearly all of its functionality, while still not providing the final SDK and capabilities. This is akin to buying a 1st gen car, then the dealer says "we are going to release new ECU software that will change the way is works soon, but for now, we are going to make it only go 15MPH until we can release that software.
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Google is trying to get more media providers to sign on. No one wants to sign on for a payed service on a "hackable" device. I don't see this device being "open" for a while yet, but with the popularity of the device we can only hope media providers sign on and add content and functionality to the device the right way before it gets all hacked up and no companies want to touch it
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Google is trying to get more media providers to sign on. No one wants to sign on for a payed service on a "hackable" device. I don't see this device being "open" for a while yet, but with the popularity of the device we can only hope media providers sign on and add content and functionality to the device the right way before it gets all hacked up and no companies want to touch it
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Didn't make sense to me.
The Chromecast simply receives the command from your device of PC to play whatever you have access to from that said device. It's not like having the Chromecast will allow you to watch fee Netflix. Many companies have already said that Chromecast support is in the world.

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Didn't make sense to me.
The Chromecast simply receives the command from your device of PC to play whatever you have access to from that said device. It's not like having the Chromecast will allow you to watch fee Netflix. Many companies have already said that Chromecast support is in the world.
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Living in Canada it is very easy to get american Netflix on my PC yet it is blocked on my chromecast.
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Amen.
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It was a joke, you speedbumps.

Time of Death 14:45 CST 1/11/2013

I'm calling it. Google is not ever going to open Chromecast to development and it will never be more than a limited dongle to stream a few (mostly) paid services. They may finish an SDK but they will never remove the white list. Google has moved on to luxury barges and product tie ins with candy bars. Chromecast is an even bigger failure than Nexus Q. Google may have sold lots of Chromecasts but they have gone out of their way to make the device of only very limited utility and the 3rd party apps they have added have been so few and so limited.
I don't think I'm going to be buying any more Google multimedia devices. I feel like a real sucker for buying this one.

Dude it's $35. Want some cheese with that?

I think you are wrong on this, browse on phone play on TV is great.
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I think you are very wrong here. I would rather google whitelist quality apps than have a ton of half-assed ones for it.
Granted yes I would like to see more apps available for it. But while it's still young we don't need 100 apps that all do the exact same thing. The one app I am waiting for is plex. If that ever becomes chromecast enabled. That would be awesome
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Woah, calm down. It's not even half a year old yet.
Google is slowly but surely allowing apps to have Chromecast support.
Hulu now has Chromecast support and just recently Pandora.
While I don't really see the whole logic behind them approving apps it's really not that big of a deal.
I can see Chromecast having a good life in the future. It's definitely not a Nexus Q failure.

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I think you are very wrong here. I would rather google whitelist quality apps than have a ton of half-assed ones for it.
Granted yes I would like to see more apps available for it. But while it's still young we don't need 100 apps that all do the exact same thing. The one app I am waiting for is plex. If that ever becomes chromecast enabled. That would be awesome
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If you want your mfg to control what apps you can use and who gets to develop for them, then go swap to apple.
It would be one thing if there was even an approval process, but there isn't, just backroom deals between big companies.
When I buy google it's because I want the freedom to do what I want with my device.
That said I'm giving them til the end of the year before I declare their "SDK" dead, but I am starting to agree with the OP.

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If you want your mfg to control what apps you can use and who gets to develop for them, then go swap to apple.
It would be one thing if there was even an approval process, but there isn't, just backroom deals between big companies.
When I buy google it's because I want the freedom to do what I want with my device.
That said I'm giving them til the end of the year before I declare their "SDK" dead, but I am starting to agree with the OP.
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Google never promised you any thing with the Chromecast. You just let your imagination get the better if you. Like others said. What did you expect for $35.
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Cuzz1369 said:
Google never promised you any thing with the Chromecast. You just let your imagination get the better if you. Like others said. What did you expect for $35.
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I expect that when they publish a "Beta" SDK, that states "You're CC needs to be Whitelisted while in Beta", that within a reasonable period of time, the whitelist requirement will be lifted and the SDK will come out of Beta and they will publish a "here's the process to publish your app"
When Google(or really anyone) releases a Beta SDK Developers are going begin spending their valuable time coding solutions for that platform, expecting someday they will be able to release their product.
So far they're just wasting developers time.
This has nothing to do with how much my chromecast cost, it's about misleading developers.

You buy a product for what it does. Not what you think it could/should/will do. Its called "Chromecast" and that's exactly what it does, casts chrome to my TV, beautify.
I understand your frustration, but I knew when I bought it what it was and did, and even though I wanted more, didn't expect it for the price
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inthepit said:
I think you are very wrong here. I would rather google whitelist quality apps than have a ton of half-assed ones for it.
Granted yes I would like to see more apps available for it. But while it's still young we don't need 100 apps that all do the exact same thing. The one app I am waiting for is plex. If that ever becomes chromecast enabled. That would be awesome
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I agree with you that it would be nice to have apps that Google has tested for quality, but that does not require a white list. The could offer a tested & certified classification. But locking out everyone else is just rude. The market is pretty good at self regulating. And I'd be glad to see 100 apps that do the same thing. Chances are better I can find one I like. The more competition, the better the quality of the standouts in the long run. Locking the device down is both lazy and greedy.
Galaxy S4, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7

I would have to agree. This thing is DOA! Had potential but by the time Google gets off their butts something else better will be out to take its place. Too bad. Thank goodness it was only $35.
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I'm disappointed too, and I agree that we will probably NEVER see any 3rd party independent apps for the chromecast. We'll just get the few services that Google throws to us. I imagine they'll still add things in the future from time to time though.
For $35 I am still happy with the device. I was tired of using my Blu-Ray player's clunky UI to watch Netflix or Youtube videos. Being able to initiate and perform everything via smartphone is amazing. I do think the Play Music could be better implemented...I don't expect most people to understand that you have to upload your music to Play and then download it onto your phone through the app, rather than sideloading. But I guess that's just a product of the DIAL standard.

We all expected 'freedom' but Google never actually said this thing would be open source.
They are a business, not a charity. They probably have their reasons for being so restrictive.
Still it's early to tell what will happen. Allowing plex would solve most of my problems, personally.
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For me Chromecast has been awesome. With Pandora it just got tons better. Because I use Amazon prime as my tv source, if they release prime app I'll buy another one for my bedroom asap. If Netflix or hulu was what I use I would have already bought another.
You can use splashtop to cast browser tabs on your computer from your phone and use hulu for free.
Best $35 I've spent I'm a long time.
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jcissell said:
Best $35 I've spent I'm a long time.
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That makes 2 of us lol Matter of fact I spent more last night on margaritas and all I got out of that was a little hangover this morning.
I've found that my CC streams Hulu better than either my blu-ray player or my LG 'smart' TV. I also use Netflix, Pandora and Google Music and am happy with them all on the CC; Plex would be icing on the cake. Plus the kids like being able to select their shows from the tablet vs the remote.
I can understand the devs not being happy though.

Furik said:
Woah, calm down. It's not even half a year old yet.
Google is slowly but surely allowing apps to have Chromecast support.
Hulu now has Chromecast support and just recently Pandora.
While I don't really see the whole logic behind them approving apps it's really not that big of a deal.
I can see Chromecast having a good life in the future. It's definitely not a Nexus Q failure.
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That's what I was told about Google TV. I'm still waiting.
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rbeavers said:
That's what I was told about Google TV. I'm still waiting.
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Yeah me too, but at least as a developer I can write and distribute code for GTV, as pathetic as it is.

I use my Chromecast every day, most times about 3-4hrs a day on multiple TV's
I have 4 Apple loving friends who own one and prefer it for Hulu, Netflix and YouTube over their Apple TV boxes.
People who won't touch Google or Android or are still using IE use it. Google has become a name in the living room by selling a "foot in the door" device at a bargain/loss.... and they are succeeding
Some failure........
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gottahavit said:
Yeah me too, but at least as a developer I can write and distribute code for GTV, as pathetic as it is.
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Yea, I can't do a thing with out root on the GTV.
It's nice we can at least cast a chrome tab.
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It's only been a little over 4 months, so it's not quite dead yet, but it's beginning to look like Google's second failure in the TV market. So far the biggest news has been Google crushing attempts to make it more useful.
I think Google's problem is that they have no clue what they want to do in the TV market. They're dabbling because they think they should, but they don't want to commit to anything.
Personally I already replaced mine with a Roku, which cost only a few dollars more and is way better. I think the Chromecast will be going to somebody else for Christmas.