[Q] Web OS - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm just asking this out of curiosity but let me get to the point. I'm a big fan of MIUI and CyanogenMod 7 on my Captivate and of course those operating systems were not designed to be on the Captivate. Well I was wondering because the Captivate is a popular phone if it would be possible to port Web OS to the phone.

From G1 forum:
samrozzi said:
ok saw a post on the sprint hero boards and wanted to ask over here aswell since the g1 area has a lot more developers for it.
would porting webOS to an android phone seem possible? I had a palm pre for a bit was cool and fast, I like android more but the thought of running it would be cool
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carnegie0107 said:
In a word:
No.
In more words:
We need drivers. There are no WebOS drivers for Android devices. Many of the existing drivers that we need are proprietary, meaning (and I'm not sure on this part) most likely the hardware specifications necessary to write drivers are closed as well. If they are not closed, it would be possible--but not for a team of geeks like XDA. You'd need a major entity, like Google, to do it, which won't happen. Besides, not all of WebOS is completely open-source, just like not ALL of what goes into Android phones is. It's just not possible--even if the driver issue could be overcome, which it can't.
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crushed my dreams =[

but i asked this question because i remember reading an article where the HP CEO said that he would be interested in licensing Web OS to big companies like Samsung. Now lets say it was made available to Samsung. Could it be ported to our Captivates then?

pwnerman said:
but i asked this question because i remember reading an article where the HP CEO said that he would be interested in licensing Web OS to big companies like Samsung. Now lets say it was made available to Samsung. Could it be ported to our Captivates then?
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More than likely it would be put on a new phone. I doubt it'll ever be open enough to be ported.

pwnerman said:
but i asked this question because i remember reading an article where the HP CEO said that he would be interested in licensing Web OS to big companies like Samsung. Now lets say it was made available to Samsung. Could it be ported to our Captivates then?
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Only if Samsung ported it over to the captivate/sgs, i wouldn't put a bet on it though. Now maybe getting ice cream sandwich has more hope than web os

speedy_11 said:
Only if Samsung ported it over to the captivate/sgs, i wouldn't put a bet on it though. Now maybe getting ice cream sandwich has more hope than web os
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Let's get Gingerbread before we start that thread!

cappysw10 said:
Let's get Gingerbread before we start that thread!
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dont we already have gingerbread lol

pwnerman said:
dont we already have gingerbread lol
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Pretty much expect (offical) att GB rom which who knows how its going to turn out

pwnerman said:
dont we already have gingerbread lol
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Sources for our phone would definitely be a plus.
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cappysw10 said:
Sources for our phone would definitely be a plus.
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it was my understanding that they were gonna release the sources soon? Is that incorrect?

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[Kernel Source]

So I guess Htc/VZ decided to release the source: http://member.america.htc.com/download/RomCode/Source_and_Binaries/incrediblec_cc1c2268.tar.bz2
good luck.
IncredibleDoes said:
I think if we bug htc enough then they will release the source lets get started... http://www.htc.com/www/about_htc_bymail.aspx
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We have been down this road before with several other devices...
HTC has ALWAYS released the source code....within a few months or so.
You can email all you want, but your going to get generic responses, and its going to be released anyways.
The phone is only available for pre-order and its not even the 29th yet...so give them sometime.
Cheers!
Will having the kernel source for the Incredible make rooting the device easier because of the potential for "work arounds".
From what Paul is saying over at Modaco, it seems HTC is going out of their way to make the Desire and Incredible "more secure"... which means locking down bootloader, kernel, etc. More of a pain for rooting... agh!
acidbath5546 said:
We have been down this road before with several other devices...
HTC has ALWAYS released the source code....within a few months or so.
You can email all you want, but your going to get generic responses, and its going to be released anyways.
The phone is only available for pre-order and its not even the 29th yet...so give them sometime.
Cheers!
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oh so sorry, did not know that... this is my first real Android device.
IncredibleDoes said:
oh so sorry, did not know that... this is my first real Android device.
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No worries at all man
Glad to see you getting involved...
We blasted HTC before with thousands of emails, and even got News sources involved, but since all that they have always released the source codes within a few months or so.
Cheers!
Droid Eris was released on 11/6/09; kernel source code is still not released.
Re: Kernel Source, lets ask Htc for it.
Droid Eris was released on 11/6/09; kernel source code is still not released.
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yes it is... look on htc's site... if you can't find it i'll get on my pc and post the link...
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I should have been more clear. I was referring too 2.1, but since that's not technically released on the eris yet, my whole post is wrong.
Nothing to see here, move along!
irascible said:
I should have been more clear. I was referring too 2.1, but since that's not technically released on the eris yet, my whole post is wrong.
Nothing to see here, move along!
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LOL...good job catching yourself
My my I think it worked. Congrats!!
Its a marketing strategy because they know people are going to mod it anyway, so this way if people mod it, they are more inclined to stay with the device and HTC.
Honestly77 said:
My my I think it worked. Congrats!!
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Doubtful, just because two things seem related doesn't mean that they are
Honestly77 said:
My my I think it worked. Congrats!!
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yea it did lol
heavensblade23 said:
Doubtful, just because two things seem related doesn't mean that they are
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we may never know

[Q] iOS on G1

has the possibilities of installing iOS on the G1 been explored?
if the iOS is opensource, it might be true, but...
sza said:
if the iOS is opensource, it might be true, but...
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any awesome people out there hacking it?
Doubt it will be done here
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I'm not too confident in the number of G1 owners wanting iOS on their G1. It seems so counter-productive.
FlyingShrapnel said:
any awesome people out there hacking it?
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Only seriously LAME people would try, and they definitely don't have the ABILITY.
We cannot even crack open iOS let alone port it.. Plus jailbreak is just based on the exploits found in the firmware..
(of course, please correct me if I am misinformed)

Combining of G2x and Optimus 2x threads. Lets just do it.

Seems there is enough similarities of the phones, if not Exact....that the threads could be combined.
The reason I think it is critical to combine is that it becomes a hassle to check each thread to see what is good info...we have double postings essentially having two groups talking and solving the same problems.
Since the phones are the same hardware, you could argue that each custom ROM could have its own group. To me: same hardware = same group
I am fine with locking this thread....if I knew how to go about it.
My vote goes for: NO. Keep them as is. Two groupings
xmoo said:
My vote goes for: NO. Keep them as is. Two groupings
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Curious to why?....I obviously can not think of a reason to not combine.
Incompatible OSs. That settles it for
now.
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tombaker1 said:
Curious to why?....I obviously can not think of a reason to not combine.
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Incompatibale OS
Incompatible RIL
So active users like me, have to warn 1321312434324+ people to double check what model they have beforce flashing.
Also this may give 12312342424+ bricked phones....
Not until there is a way to make the Rom's compatible for both phones and the majority of dev's implement it. The fact that we can't run the leaked gingerbread G2X Rom says it really
No, they need to be seperate as the software isn't compatible.
same outside, different inside. it's a NO for me.
xmoo said:
Incompatibale OS
Incompatible RIL
So active users like me, have to warn 1321312434324+ people to double check what model they have beforce flashing.
Also this may give 12312342424+ bricked phones....
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Couldn't agree more hence we just separated the two!
So happy it stays this way
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Aaberg said:
Incompatible OSs. That settles it for
now.
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xmoo said:
Incompatibale OS
Incompatible RIL
So active users like me, have to warn 1321312434324+ people to double check what model they have beforce flashing.
Also this may give 12312342424+ bricked phones....
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MillyMoo106 said:
Not until there is a way to make the Rom's compatible for both phones and the majority of dev's implement it. The fact that we can't run the leaked gingerbread G2X Rom says it really
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Rusty! said:
No, they need to be seperate as the software isn't compatible.
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awf said:
Couldn‘t agree more hence we just seperated the two!
So happy it stays this way
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Guys, this is why recovery supports "assert(getprop)" to prevent software being installed on the incorrect phone. This is why you can't install CM for a Desire on a Nexus One.
Also, it's pretty easy to label stuff.
So I think that reason is invalid.
However, I do think there should be two dev sections and common Q&A/General/Themes & Apps sections.
But then I look at all of the nonsense posts that go on in the G2x section and think perhaps we're lucky...
Nevertheless, I voted in the poll.
djmcnz said:
Guys, this is why recovery supports "assert(getprop)" to prevent software being installed on the incorrect phone. This is why you can't install CM for a Desire on a Nexus One.
Also, it's pretty easy to label stuff.
So I think that reason is invalid.
However, I do think there should be two dev sections and common Q&A/General/Themes & Apps sections.
But then I look at all of the nonsense posts that go on in the G2x section and think perhaps we're lucky...
Nevertheless, I voted in the poll.
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I'm aware of what is possible, but it makes no sense, don't want to be bothered with the G2X stuff and clog op this forum
djmcnz said:
Guys, this is why recovery supports "assert(getprop)" to prevent software being installed on the incorrect phone. This is why you can't install CM for a Desire on a Nexus One.
Also, it's pretty easy to label stuff.
So I think that reason is invalid.
However, I do think there should be two dev sections and common Q&A/General/Themes & Apps sections.
But then I look at all of the nonsense posts that go on in the G2x section and think perhaps we're lucky...
Nevertheless, I voted in the poll.
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It's not just that, the differences mean an answer for something on the O2X can cause problems for a G2X.
If I told someone to install CMR via ROM Manager, turn their phone off hold vol- and power up, on an O2X it would boot into recovery, on a G2X it would wipe the phone as ROM Manager fake flashes.
Why isn't this thread closed already? It's clear the two phones are different, and everyone agrees.
vlad88667 said:
Why isn't this thread closed already? It's clear the two phones are different, and everyone agrees.
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Exactly
NO NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO KEEP THEM IN DIFFERENT FORUMS
When this O2x thread open it was getting hammered with G2x questions etc which people with O2x didn't want to see or know about, if you wanna look at G2x go to there forum
I DONT WANNA SEE G2X
vlad88667 said:
Why isn't this thread closed already? It's clear the two phones are different, and everyone agrees.
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Yes would be fine to lock it...
If you want information about the G2X just click to the particular forum ;-)
A post without sense...
Please close it just waste of bandwidth
carmil said:
A post without sense...
Please close it just waste of bandwidth
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Yes and your contribution helped this situation how?

Can You Install Android on HD7?

i saw a japanese video showing android on the hd7. i want to know if we can install android on hd7.
koolxx said:
i saw a japanese video showing android on the hd7. i want to know if we can install android on hd7.
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You can't yet. There is already a thread about this same subject. No need to make another.
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truckerdewd said:
You can't yet. There is already a thread about this same subject. No need to make another.
Search is a very awesome tool. I suggest you use it.
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would you happen to know the progress on this project?
CHECK ONE OF THE OTHER DOZEN THREADS ON THIS SUBJECT. How much easier do we have to make it? Use the search tool ffs.
koolxx said:
its just a simple question... how hard is it to answer this question? damn youre rude as hell.
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Nobody knows the progress. It'll probably be next year some time, but the guy is right, we didn't need another thread asking the very same question. So no, he wasn't being rude as hell.
truckerdewd said:
Nobody knows the progress. It'll probably be next year some time, but the guy is right, we didn't need another thread asking the very same question. So no, he wasn't being rude as hell.
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thanks truckerdewd.. its just that i'm so desperate in getting android on the hd7.. you have no idea.
koolxx said:
thanks truckerdewd.. its just that i'm so desperate in getting android on the hd7.. you have no idea.
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We are all on the same boat...
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Confused
Can someone explain why the Desire HD doesnt meet your needs?
Or is it the point of having the desired outer shell and being able to change OS's at your choosing?
...basically the HD2 syndrome...
Probably because they don't have a DesireHD, they have an HD7.
morpheus1982 said:
Can someone explain why the Desire HD doesnt meet your needs?
Or is it the point of having the desired outer shell and being able to change OS's at your choosing?
...basically the HD2 syndrome...
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hi, morpheus.. thats an excellent question. i'd love to get the desire. but i read that its hardware is similar to hd2... and the hd2 has call quality problems. but a friend of mine said that the call quality is clear... so i dont know if i should get the desire.
also, i was looking the the htc inspire. i'd like to dual boot wp7 and android on it. i'd like to know if this is possible. but i'm also worried about the batt life on it.
morpheus1982 said:
Can someone explain why the Desire HD doesnt meet your needs?
Or is it the point of having the desired outer shell and being able to change OS's at your choosing?
...basically the HD2 syndrome...
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Because the DesireHD isn't on T-Mobile and the HD7 was the biggest screen available? I don't have a HD7 myself but what do you people have against having an option for other operating systems?
Some people in this section are so close minded it's not even funny.
koolxx said:
hi, morpheus.. thats an excellent question. i'd love to get the desire. but i read that its hardware is similar to hd2... and the hd2 has call quality problems. but a friend of mine said that the call quality is clear... so i dont know if i should get the desire.
also, i was looking the the htc inspire. i'd like to dual boot wp7 and android on it. i'd like to know if this is possible. but i'm also worried about the batt life on it.
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I have a couple of friends with Desire HD. Don't know about the call quality, but the battery life sucks as hell..feels like it has a Nokia 1100 battery in it...Drains faster than a sandclock...
Otherwise its a fantastic device.,.
sahil04 said:
Because the DesireHD isn't on T-Mobile and the HD7 was the biggest screen available? I don't have a HD7 myself but what do you people have against having an option for other operating systems?
Some people in this section are so close minded it's not even funny.
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Would you settle for a Ford because the garage didn't have a Ferrari? That's the lamest excuse I've heard in a long time...
It's not Close mindedness, it's common sense. You want Android, get an Android phone. You want Dual Boot? Get a device capable of doing it.
Dual booting will become a reality for WP7 devices, it's only a matter of time. But creating Dozen's of threads on it isn't going to speed things up. If anything it'll slow it down.
My prediction is all of these WM6.5/Android threads will become redundant once Mango's released anyway, and people won't want to switch between OS's cos there'll be no point.
Audio said:
Would you settle for a Ford because the garage didn't have a Ferrari? That's the lamest excuse I've heard in a long time..
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Nope, but if I was going to buy a Ferrari that dealership probably wouldn't carry a Ford
It's not Close mindedness, it's common sense. You want Android, get an Android phone. You want Dual Boot? Get a device capable of doing it.
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It is close mindedness, although I agree with the fact that if you wanted a Android he should have gotten an Android (I did, only reason I come to the HD7 forums is because my dad has one and I play with his). How did devices that are capable of dual booting come to be? It wouldn't have been possible if everyone was in mindset "I don't want that cause I have this".
Dual booting will become a reality for WP7 devices, it's only a matter of time. But creating Dozen's of threads on it isn't going to speed things up. If anything it'll slow it down.
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And replying to every thread with the same canned off topic response is no better, sure he should have searched but being pricks isn't going to make him search in the future, it might just drive a potential future dev away from XDA.
My prediction is all of these WM6.5/Android threads will become redundant once Mango's released anyway, and people won't want to switch between OS's cos there'll be no point.
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I've been hearing good things about Mango and I think that WP7 will become a real competitor to iOS/Android once it comes out, until then however it is another story.
Who wouldn't want a device that can dualboot. It also preserves the life of the device in a sell/trade aspect.
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China has called Pepsi's friends in the production of the android rom, and has released two videos, but people have been in China Huayi his authenticity
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China has called Pepsi's friends in the production of the android rom, and has released two videos, but people have been in China Huayi his authenticity
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what please i didn't understand ?
circleofomega said:
I have a couple of friends with Desire HD. Don't know about the call quality, but the battery life sucks as hell..feels like it has a Nokia 1100 battery in it...Drains faster than a sandclock...
Otherwise its a fantastic device.,.
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I've seen exactly the same thing. The 1230 capacity battery on the Desire HD is way too small for a phone with 1ghz processor and the big screen.
The HD7 has the same specs of course, but because WP7 doesn't allow multitasking and background jobs the battery life isn't so much of an issue.
sahil04 said:
Nope, but if I was going to buy a Ferrari that dealership probably wouldn't carry a Ford
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You obviously understand me or you wouldn't come up with something as pedantic as that. Think of any other analogy you like that applies the same logic, you'll still find it applies.
sahil04 said:
It is close mindedness...How did devices that are capable of dual booting come to be? It wouldn't have been possible if everyone was in mindset "I don't want that cause I have this".
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At which point did i (or anyone for that matter) say I don't want to Dual Boot?
sahil04 said:
And replying to every thread with the same canned off topic response is no better, sure he should have searched but being pricks isn't going to make him search in the future, it might just drive a potential future dev away from XDA.
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I wasn't aware we were firing personal insults. Perhaps we should all play along then and welcome duplicate threads? And please, "driving away potential future devs"?
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I've been hearing good things about Mango and I think that WP7 will become a real competitor to iOS/Android once it comes out, until then however it is another story.
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Personal opinion. WP7 is my favorite OS out there. I'll admit it has it's limitations, but for me there is no competition. It does what a smartphone should do better than any other device out there.
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Like XDA But On Steroids

Hello everyone,
I've been pondering over some project to divert my time on and well recently I've begun to notice the somewhat unorganized mess XDA has become. So I thought of the fabulous idea of creating a new website made strictly for ROMs, Kernels, Rooting, & Unlocking Bootloaders. The website would have separate sections for each device, then differing versions of the device, then for android version, and then finally for type of development. For example AT&T Galaxy S3 CM12 rom would be found under Galaxy S3>AT&T>Lollipop>Roms>Cyanogenmod 12.
Get it? Super organized, super easy to find things.
What do you guys think? Is this something worth investing my time in? Or should I just give u on this little project? Be brutally honest please. After all there is no point on building a website that nobody will ever use.
More steps but easier finds. Nice.
Sounds good, especially if you can get support from xda.
CyanogenMod 11 listed under jellybean ROMs?
Your biggest issue is people dont really leave xda. Developer wise most are keen to stay here because support and friends are here i imagine. Also logistically trying to support even half the phones xda does and have it so organised into just what the phones are compatible with, along with paired Q&A + general threads would be immensely time consuming and would require more than a few people to keep up with the flow. Not even considering user mistakes with roms added in the wrong forum. While it would be a good idea i wouldnt attempt it. The mods are always willing to listen to new ideas to help keep the forums tidy though. Maybe try help out closer to home?
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Shut your mouth XD
developer209 said:
Shut your mouth XD
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@1BadWolf
developer209 said:
Shut your mouth XD
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@1BadWolf
an example
CoolApps said:
More steps but easier finds. Nice.
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Jesse72 said:
Sounds good, especially if you can get support from xda.
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1BadWolf said:
CyanogenMod 11 listed under jellybean ROMs?
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http://organizedxda.weebly.com/
developer209 said:
Shut your mouth XD
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developer209 said:
@1BadWolf
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Hahaha, sorry. It was like there was a little devil sitting on my shoulder saying "C'mon, do it! It'll be funny!"
1BadWolf said:
Hahaha, sorry. It was like there was a little devil sitting on my shoulder saying "Do it! It'll be funny!"
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Lol I corrected it in the OP just for your devil :b
Good luck with your site, but you're not promoting it here, as per forum rules.
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