Related
Hello,
Sorry for this very basic question, I am just wondering what is the difference between a Kernel and a ROM? I see in the development forum there are lots of new Kernels, what are these actually optimizing except underclocking or undervolting (understand that terminology). I am also wondering if the Kernels are specific for the original Nexus One 2.1 Android or can you install for example Modaco or Cyan ROM and then a different random Kernel?
Thanks!
To my understanding, a kernel is what directly interacts with the hardware. Every OS has this, but it's more customizable on our phones since it's based on Linux. The Rom contains the OS itself, and the software and file structure therein. The kernel even can tell the OS how fast the processor goes and how much juice to use from the battery.
Hope that makes sense, as I'm no expert. You can mix and match the two as far as I know. I've mixed them, anyway.
Halorin,
Based on what you said, with my stock vibrant ROM 2.1 JI6 update, it is possible to change the kernel or install another kernel (like the CM kernel)?
tomasitoc said:
Halorin,
Based on what you said, with my stock vibrant ROM 2.1 JI6 update, it is possible to change the kernel or install another kernel (like the CM kernel)?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is really a question better suited to the rom 's development thread, but in general yes you can flash a different kernel. Some kernel/rom combinations work better than others, but you really wont know until you try. Get comfortable with nandroid backups and start trying out different kernel combinations until you find one you like.
Usually most custom roms will include a kernel but they usually have tweaks like coding for 720p, oc, and audio tweaks and what not. Alsways do a nandroid back up and start exploring. When flashing kernels always wipe, I think their are exceptions but its best to wipe just in case. Browse XDA, download a kernel from your phone browser, rom manager install from SD, should be in your downloads folder, backup and wipe, repeat until your phone does what you want.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
which is the better to install???
Thank you your post..
but i can't understand clearly.
so.,
which one is better to install NewRom / Kernal. for android phones.
Neither one is better it just depends on what you want to do.
If you want to totally change over your phone to look and function differently then you need to flash a ROM if you just want to keep the same look but want to enable lets say overclocking then flash an overclocked kernel. If it has to do with the hardware mostly then it's probably something that the kernel can change. Although like mentioned above if you flash a ROM most of the time it will come with a custom kernel.
Dude Random21 said:
Neither one is better it just depends on what you want to do.
If you want to totally change over your phone to look and function differently then you need to flash a ROM if you just want to keep the same look but want to enable lets say overclocking then flash an overclocked kernel. If it has to do with the hardware mostly then it's probably something that the kernel can change. Although like mentioned above if you flash a ROM most of the time it will come with a custom kernel.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What he said.
ROMs and kernels are two separate things that have two separate functions. Neither is better than the other, but they do complement each other.
Seshu9899 said:
Thank you your post..
but i can't understand clearly.
so.,
which one is better to install NewRom / Kernal. for android phones.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know both Dude Random21 and codesplice have gone into this, but to try and give a bit more info...
The kernel is kinda like the nervous system of the body. It directly interacts with the hardware (which is how it is able to adjust CPU speed) and it is what allows the ROM to function.
The ROM is the rest of the body. Every other aspect of the phone. In fact, most ROMs include custom kernels. Various ROMs give you various features/enhancements/bugfixes. You will probably notice the biggest change in your phone if you load a custom ROM. Most people load the custom kernels to help with battery life as a lot of them allow you to lower the phones minimum processing speed from 245Mhz to 128MHz.
The ROM can change so many different aspects of how the phone works. There is CyanogenMod which is based off of stock Android with a lot of tweaks, bugfixes, and new features added. There is also MIUI, which is similar to the iOS style (not the same, but much closer than stock Android), and then there are a ton others out there.
Then which Rom is best for my samsung galaxy s???
so i am using froyo.jpjpg on my galaxys.
i want to flash new Rom with upgaraded to gingerbread.
can i flash only rom../ kernal also.
which is best Rom for samsung galaxys.
cynogenmod, miui, .?????
battery drain is very fast now ian running rom/kernal.
Start by going to the forum for your phone.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
thank you...
i Start the post from samsung galaxy s..
Seshu9899 said:
thank you...
i Start the post from samsung galaxy s..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
your welcomed
Nandbackup + Rom & Kernel
One question: when I do a backup with CWM, it is the Nandroid backup you talk about, correct...? Same thing? So, if I do a backup with CWM, it's a backup only of the ROM, or also the stock Kernel...? Imagine that I do a Rom (GingerDX for example), and flash with a custom Kernel.... If things go bad and I do a restore from my backup (stock) CWM, what do I restore? Rom, or Rom + (stock) Kernel...?
Yes, a backup that is done in ClockworkMod (or Amon_RA) is considered a nandroid backup. And this takes a complete snapshot of your system. Your ROM, your kernel, your apps and your data are all inlcuded. The only thing that isn't included is the fat partition on your sdcard. So if things go bad and you restore your nandroid backup, it will go back to however it was when you made the backup.
thanks a lot. reading this thread clear up a lot of things
Hi!
I am currently running Lite'ning ROM 6.1. XXKH3 Kernel version 2.6.35.11-ninphetamine-2.0.5+ [email protected] #20 on SGSII. Phew.
I've tried a lot of ROMS including MIUI, villain, galmetMIUI ICS version . I like Lite'ning ROM because it gave me the least (virtually Nil) problems (FCs/ reboots) and has almost all the features I need (TV-out that's missing from MIUI, good camera with panorama mode, Recording mode in phone). However I miss the CIFS feature. Is it because the kernel does not support it? Can I get CIFS support if I flash another kernel? Any suggesstions on which Kernel should I flash? I realise that this ROM is pretty old now so Can I get additional features with a newer Kernel.
codesplice said:
What he said.
ROMs and kernels are two separate things that have two separate functions. Neither is better than the other, but they do complement each other.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That made everything clear. Thanks man. I'm new to the xda but already flashed a new rom that overclocked my CPU to 1.5 and my HTC Sensation 4G Is running so much better right now. However I wish i knew how to thank people... because i see the thanks meter but cannot find where to thank from.
radoslav.trahanov said:
That made everything clear. Thanks man. I'm new to the xda but already flashed a new rom that overclocked my CPU to 1.5 and my HTC Sensation 4G Is running so much better right now. However I wish i knew how to thank people... because i see the thanks meter but cannot find where to thank from.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The rom didn't overclock your phone. The kernel did. READ. You came to the MT4GS forum starting up a storm for people not giving you a direct link to the regular MT4G. How is it you cant find the freakin' "thanks" button? THERE'S A FREAKIN' THANKS BUTTON IN EVERY FREAKIN' POST. OPEN YOUR FREAKIN' EYES.
Sori m jst new here..jst b0ught my f0ne 2 m0nths ago. Flashed r0m: gingercrime ITA, flashed kernel: ver 2.6.35.14 v6. And iv overclock my fone 245-710Mhz, smartass. fone: lg optimus one, running on gingerbread 2.3.3
Many thanx xda developers..!!
Hello, I just recently purchased a Samsung Captivate on At&t. I go to school with a kid who's totally into developing for android. He rooted my phone and put on the clockwork recovery, and Titanium Backup. We removed the At&t bloatware from the phone and now I'm picking up where he left off and I'm going to attempt to put a ROM onto the phone, I'm just having trouble picking one!
After reading and trying to understand everything, I'm trying to decide between the latest Cognition Rom, Perception Rom, and Paragon RC1.
I'm assuming they're all based on some version of Froyo. I'm looking for the one that will offer stable performance and better battery life than what the 2.1 is giving me now. Also, I couldn't tell but do any of these keep the Samsung UI or keyboard? I kind of actually prefer them to the normal android keyboard and interface.
Thanks!!
Dr3amCast
Well I've never used Paragon. But I have used Perception and Cognition.
Perception is based off of a leaked Froyo (I Believe)
Cognition 3.XX is basaed off the just released Rogers Official Froyo.
Both of those two roms have Swype/Samsung KB's to chose from
Try cognition. I think all of them are pretty equal in quality but cognition was made to keep a stock appearance with increased speed, stability and features while also offering better battery life and gps accuracy. I would say all of the roms you mentioned deserve a flash though. Also serendipity and firefly but who has time for all that.... i do.
Sent from my SGH-I897 using XDA App
I'm currently running Cognition 3.02 btw
I switched over from Perception 10.1 when Cog 3.0 was released.
just FYI... But as Blazin said. They're all worth a look!
Okay, thanks for all the advice! I think I'm going to try cognition first. I've seen a lot of people using Serendipity. So if I don't like cognition, I might flash back to 2.1 then try that.
No problema.
Just a heads up. Alot of people here say you don't have to, but I like to flash back to stock before any ROM. Just ensures a good flash
DeMarzo said:
No problema.
Just a heads up. Alot of people here say you don't have to, but I like to flash back to stock before any ROM. Just ensures a good flash
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, seems like a lot of people disagree but it only takes a few extra minutes and better safe than sorry.
Do a datawipe too
Sent from my SGH-I897 using XDA App
Okay, just wondering, I'm not sure what a "kernel" is, I'm using "Kernel Version 2.6.29", but do I have to change that as well to successfully switch to Cognition v3.02
thats the stock kernel for the capti ate.
When you flash the rom it will update I it to the set included in the package
Capti-sent
I'm quite sure you will end up flashing all three roms... Highly addictive.
No idea why everybody thinks it's SAFER to flash back to stock first. Delete user data in CWM and everything will be fine. If odin messes up, phone gets disconnected, power goes out, etc. while flashing the bootloader files then your phone is screwed. Well...at least hard to recover. It is NOT safer by any means.
I've tried both perception and cognition.
I really think you should try both of them out and decide.
And you should also look at other roms?? Just saying...
Sent from my phone
I have tried most roms on here. So far my absolute favorite is the Contiuum GT rom. Very lean and smokin fast. Second place would go to Cognition.
My best advice is to follow the threads for a bit to see what other users are experiencing. Usually people will post any issues and you can judge if it is crucial to you or not.
Me personally, I've been following phoenix, cog 3.0, and serendipity and so far still not sure which one to go for. I'm running on Cog 2.38b and it's pretty solid with some minor theme tweaks. Why break it if it works right? I'll probably try something new when I get bored.
maybe i am a little biased in my opinion of what ROM i am currently running....as I had a hand in developing it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=917727
Phoenix or firefly...
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
I've flashed Cognition and Perception, but I have to say that I'm enjoying Phoenix 3.5 the most.
I successfully flashed Cognition onto my phone last night...was enjoying it although didn't notice any improvement in battery life. Today, it wont stay on for more than 3 mintues without rebooting and being stuck at cognition boot screen. So much for that one! Now I just have to figure out how to flash back to the original 2.1...is that odin program hard to use?
Im using cognition 3.02 and love it no problems at all silky smooth. Battery life is ok not great so far
I know this gets asked a lot, but I have a question that I think might be a little different.
Right now I have an AT&T Captivate Running FROYO.UCKB1
I was going to flash Cog4 today but I just realized that the MobleTechVid Gingerbread theme would not work with that ROM. Ever since I saw Josh's vid on his theme, I have wanted it!
I just ran across his Serendipity ROM review and it looks like it has most if not all of the Gingerbread theme built into it.
Basically, I have told myself to skip the Cog4 and just do the Serendipity ROM, but I guess I just wanted a 3rd party endorsement of that decision.
I do need my phone to be 100% usable and reliable as I use it for work, which is why I was leaning toward the COG4 ROM (stability). I can not give up usability/stability for pretty graphics.
On a side note, from what I have read here, it seems as if I need to use Odin to flash back to 2.1 before flashing a custom ROM (via ClockWorkMod). I am fine with that, but I was just wondering if, since UCKB1 came out, anyone has developed a way to flash a ROM with out having to go backwards first.
Thanks!
If you like kb1 cognition is the sane exact thing. If you want something different flash serendipity
Sent from my Captivate using XDA Premium App
I just flashed this rom on my captivate. So far it is working flawlessy.
I was also on 2.2 Froyo, and used Odin to go back to stock. It's seems like a useless step, but i did it. It only takes a few minutes and for safety sake it's better to do it right just in case.
Josh has awesome vids. I don't think i would have done it this quickly if i had to use some of the others that i've watched.
Josh=
Cognition was my first ROM from stock. It worked well as advertised. And like yourself, I wanted stability over anything else. Its great for being close to stock, with running more smoothly, and had a few extra features. Then I decided to try Serendipity. Serendipity has much more added features and is much more customizable, while at the same time, still provides stability. In my experiences, I would put Serendipity in the middle between Cognition and other roms like Andromeda, which is even more themed than Serendipity. IMO, Serendipity is the happy medium between the stock experience and flashy themed roms. It seems like you already did your research on how to flash, so I would say give Serendipty a try. If its too much or not what you are looking for, go back to Cognition. But it seems like the developers of Cognition (designgears) are straying away from Captivate development, as they already discontinued their other rom, Perception.
cavsoldier19d said:
Cognition was my first ROM from stock. It worked well as advertised. And like yourself, I wanted stability over anything else. Its great for being close to stock, with running more smoothly, and had a few extra features. Then I decided to try Serendipity. Serendipity has much more added features and is much more customizable, while at the same time, still provides stability. In my experiences, I would put Serendipity in the middle between Cognition and other roms like Andromeda, which is even more themed than Serendipity. IMO, Serendipity is the happy medium between the stock experience and flashy themed roms. It seems like you already did your research on how to flash, so I would say give Serendipty a try. If its too much or not what you are looking for, go back to Cognition. But it seems like the developers of Cognition (designgears) are straying away from Captivate development, as they already discontinued their other rom, Perception.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
actually, your concept of Andromeda is wrong. Andromeda is first and foremost a 'stock' experience and there is a version that is heavily themed....
mthayer1 said:
I just flashed this rom on my captivate. So far it is working flawlessy.
I was also on 2.2 Froyo, and used Odin to go back to stock. It's seems like a useless step, but i did it. It only takes a few minutes and for safety sake it's better to do it right just in case.
Josh has awesome vids. I don't think i would have done it this quickly if i had to use some of the others that i've watched.
Josh=
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When you say "this rom" do you mean Serendipity or Cognition?
From what I have read, you have to flash back to 2.1 if you are using ClockWorkMod to flash your new ROM because 2.1 and 2.2 use different recovery modes and ClockWork will not work with the recovery mode that 2.2 uses (I think it is 2e that 2.1 and ClockWork use and 3e that 2.2 uses).
2 more questions. What would hapen if I just put the ROM .zip on the root of phone, named it update.zip, rebooted into recovery, and "reinstalled packages"? Wouldn't this flash the ROM w/o using ClockWork and therefore not having to flash back to 2.1?
When I used Kies to go from 2.1 to 2.2 that seemed to be what it did and it kept all my aps, SMS, phone log, and all my other settings (home screens and widgets had to be reset). I do understand the "best" way is to return to out of box stock and then flash, but then there is a lot to re-setup...
Last thing. The only thing about the Gingerbread theme that I don't want is the orange color when you press an on screen button. I prefer the blue color that I have now with 2.2. Is there an "easy" way to change it from the orange back to blue in Serendipity?
Thanks for helping this newb!
bobapunk said:
When you say "this rom" do you mean Serendipity or Cognition?
From what I have read, you have to flash back to 2.1 if you are using ClockWorkMod to flash your new ROM because 2.1 and 2.2 use different recovery modes and ClockWork will not work with the recovery mode that 2.2 uses (I think it is 2e that 2.1 and ClockWork use and 3e that 2.2 uses).
2 more questions. What would hapen if I just put the ROM .zip on the root of phone, named it update.zip, rebooted into recovery, and "reinstalled packages"? Wouldn't this flash the ROM w/o using ClockWork and therefore not having to flash back to 2.1?
When I used Kies to go from 2.1 to 2.2 that seemed to be what it did and it kept all my aps, SMS, phone log, and all my other settings (home screens and widgets had to be reset). I do understand the "best" way is to return to out of box stock and then flash, but then there is a lot to re-setup...
Last thing. The only thing about the Gingerbread theme that I don't want is the orange color when you press an on screen button. I prefer the blue color that I have now with 2.2. Is there an "easy" way to change it from the orange back to blue in Serendipity?
Thanks for helping this newb!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
first of all, NO you cannot just name a rom zip update.zip and flash from stock 3e recovery....3e recovery does not allow unsigned zip files to run on it...thats why you have to either flash back to 2.1 or root and use the unsigned 3e recovery mod
it doesnt matter if you return to stock 2.1 or not, when you flash a new rom, you will lose your setup....it wipes the phone except for your internal and external sd cards. root your phone and run titanium backup if you want to save all that stuff.
for your last question about the color. yes, its a png file inside /system/framework/framework-res.apk/res/drawable-hdpi, however, i dont recommend you go mucking around with that......and honestly, it wont look right with the rest of the theme anyway
Ah, thanks for explaining why flashing from a zip in 3e will not work.
I am not sure what parts of the theme you don't think blue will go with...
From what I have seen, the indicators are green and the menus are black. I think that blue would go with that just as well as orange...
bobapunk said:
Basically, I have told myself to skip the Cog4 and just do the Serendipity ROM, but I guess I just wanted a 3rd party endorsement of that decision.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I endorse it. There. Problem solved.
I flash Serendipity everytime MikeyMike puts out an update to it. Granted I flash a new rom at least every two days. Serendipity is always in my rom rotation.
word of caution
If you are really not sure - don't do any custom ROM flashing, it's overhyped.
Stay on stock, enjoy stability.
Or enter the wonderful world of bricking/unbricking.
My first ROM was Cog 3.04, and I followed to 4.0, and 4.1.
Two days ago, I switched to Serendipity because I wanted a different experience besides something close to stock. It's not that Cog was bad...it's great.
What I'm discovering is that it's great to sample the ROMs until you find what fits you best, even if that means you're changing a lot.
I agree 100%...it's all up to the individual!
In my opinion Cognition is for those who want as close to stock as possible and don't want to stray too far into the flashing foray.
Where as Roms such as Serendipity use the latest software released for the i9000 to enhance the device to a better experience and deviate is much from the stock mess as possible.
That and the fact that Cog is 2.2 and Serendipity is 2.2.1
I used to be a big cognition fan until I tried serendipity. Cog is ok, but serendipity is more tailored to my wants and needs. So perhaps try both and see which one will suit you.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA Premium App
bravomail said:
If you are really not sure - don't do any custom ROM flashing, it's overhyped.
Stay on stock, enjoy stability.
Or enter the wonderful world of bricking/unbricking.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Someone didn't RTFM...
MikeyMike01 said:
Someone didn't RTFM...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOL!
Seriously.
Even if I did Brick, it seems that $0.99 at radio shack and sacrificing my iGo adapter would be sufficient to un-brick...
bravomail said:
If you are really not sure - don't do any custom ROM flashing, it's overhyped.
Stay on stock, enjoy stability.
Or enter the wonderful world of bricking/unbricking.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Any Rom is more stable than what was released by ATT and if you are bricking your phone then you should either read more or have some one more knowledgeable do it for you.
bravomail said:
If you are really not sure - don't do any custom ROM flashing, it's overhyped.
Stay on stock, enjoy stability.
Or enter the wonderful world of bricking/unbricking.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Pretty sure you haven't flashed before if you make a judgement like that. Stock is 1. Much slower, 2. Way less customizable, and 3. Boring.
Lastly, my honest perspective is that stability is the exact same as long as you don't go trekking around things you don't read about prior.
Install a good Rom, find a kernel that sounds the best for you-really just pick one that is popular-if you want. However most Roms come with a custom one so you need not mess with that unless you get interested. And if you want to play around even more, install a different modem. But, as before, that is not necessary.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
Cog4.1 Rom
Suckerpunch#55 kernel
JL3 modem
does serendipity looks like stock rom? I tot it looks like nexus s?
I don't think it looks stock at all. Cog does. I think Serendipity looks (and functions) 100x better than the stock rom.
megarific said:
does serendipity looks like stock rom? I tot it looks like nexus s?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sent from my SGH-I897 using XDA App
I'm looking for a gingerbread install for a bell I9000-m basically just need to make sure that the swype keyboard is fairly decent or similar to the bell one and whichever replacement is found here.
Im guessing I'll need a link to a stock modem driver but I've never done this before with much success besides just kindof bumbeling through a bit.
Let me know anything that could help in my quest here.
I would like to find some links to a good set of files for this update. I've read at many places that for bell you must ask for specific files for this task as it must be more complicated for the bell setup for some reason.
Even a Nexus S firmware if port-able to this device would be fine.
chamunks said:
I'm looking for a gingerbread install for a bell I9000-m basically just need to make sure that the swype keyboard is fairly decent or similar to the bell one and whichever replacement is found here.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Any firmware for the i9000 works on the i9000m. There are plenty of threads in the development section with gb roms. Just download the KC1 modem for either Odin or CWM and flash that - I won't get into details, there are a bazillion threads discussing how to do this properly on the i9000m
chamunks said:
Let me know anything that could help in my quest here.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=656&nojs=1#goto_forumsearch
chamunks said:
I would like to find some links to a good set of files for this update. I've read at many places that for bell you must ask for specific files for this task as it must be more complicated for the bell setup for some reason.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You need to stop reading whatever forums you're reading, and stick to this one. There are no specific files, and it is no more complicated than any other i9000.
chamunks said:
Even a Nexus S firmware if port-able to this device would be fine.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Then use Cyanogenmod. Again, all of these are in the development subforum.
You mention Cyanogenmod but wouldnt that be froyo?
I didnt really mean just link me to the specific forum subgroup I was hoping for some more specific direction I realize my question wasn't that clear i suppose. Anyways I've basically just had trouble changing the firmware on this device before and I really dont want to end up bricking it with a bad firmware flash.
Basically a good starting point example link would be fantastic I will do some more research and if i manage to do this myself I will post my findings just to close the thread.
Flash JVH and then flash KC1 modem, done.
I also dont want to install a beta gingerbread release if at all avoidable and mostly a vanilla or highly reccomended third party custom would be fine too.
JVH is official release in parts of Europe. I'm with Bell, running JVH with KC1 modem since its release and absolutely no issues.
chamunks said:
You mention Cyanogenmod but wouldnt that be froyo?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, CM7 is 2.3.4 which is Gingerbread. Cyanogenmod 6 (which was froyo afaik) never really came to be on the i9000.
chamunks said:
I didnt really mean just link me to the specific forum subgroup I was hoping for some more specific direction I realize my question wasn't that clear i suppose. Anyways I've basically just had trouble changing the firmware on this device before and I really dont want to end up bricking it with a bad firmware flash.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There isn't really anything specific for the i9000m. Really, its just a matter of picking a rom and following the flashing instructions. If you're flashing a stock release (like JVH lets say), use Odin, flash the tarball with update bootloader checked and once thats done, flash an appropriate modem for Bell (for 850mhz), like KC1 that I find works very well.
If you're flashing a cooked rom, like those in the development subforum, then you'd flash something like JVH, flash an appropriate kernel with clockworkmod (I prefer speedmod, but there are others), then you'd install the cooked rom through cwm recovery.
chamunks said:
Basically a good starting point example link would be fantastic I will do some more research and if i manage to do this myself I will post my findings just to close the thread.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011901
That thread should have all the information you need on flashing JVH along with screenshots and links to the roms.
chamunks said:
I also dont want to install a beta gingerbread release if at all avoidable and mostly a vanilla or highly reccomended third party custom would be fine too.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As others have said, JVH is an official release for a lot of European carriers. It will work fine on the i9000m. I was running JVH + KC1 Modem for a while before switching to the latest Cyanogenmod nightly (which works absolutely fantastic now).
If you're looking for an official Bell Gingerbread release.... you'll just have to keep waiting. Bell is slower than the second coming. Just keep a full KC1 or JL2 (with bootloaders) around so you can flash back to stock if you need be.
Also, you said you had trouble flashing before. I'd suggest following that link in my post above, and if you get stuck, come back and we can step you through.
And finally, you really can't brick you phone as long as you are able to access download mode and 3 button recovery. Absolutely make sure you can access these two modes before flashing anything.
I have actually had issues getting into recovery mode sometimes but not usually, but have no problem entering download mode. I think at one point I wound up with upload mode... which doesent seem to be documented... But dont quote me on that one as it was a while ago (after searching high and low on my NAS I cant find the photo i took sorry). I have actually had to send this phone off to bell to get them to fix it twice now.
Once due to my inability to do this properly without making a forum post asking these question and another due to a bad Kies update sending my phone into a boot loop.
So you say Cyanogen nightly works well im thinking I might give that a shot as im sure there are good reasons why you would want to use cyanogen over another release. Im just hoping for no weird Telco specific crap on my phone unless its Bell specific if i must have even that.
Would I go into the ROM list thread for the cyanogenmod nightly? http://goo.gl/IBbEm
Which leads me to this? http://goo.gl/b5UwG
or is there a better way to obtain CM7? Also what would be a good location to try and find my modem driver (KC1)?
I'm sorry to spam questions here but one final one. Would there be a good boot loader that I should strive for, if any?
SaneinOne said:
JVH is official release in parts of Europe. I'm with Bell, running JVH with KC1 modem since its release and absolutely no issues.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am running the above now. I was on Darky 9.5, then upgraded yesterday to Ficeto JVB, Dark Core 2.2 and Darky's v10 RC6. Then flashed Dark Core 2.3.
I then flashed KC1 modem this morning.
Running great and loving the rom so far.. its a base rom, so not a lot of features in it but at least i can customize it to how i like it so far.
I've downloaded this file I9000UGKC1 ## 512.PIT 2.2 2011 March from samfirmwares I'm hoping it works out well for giving me the modem driver.
And
Gingerbread 2.3.3: XWJVH from http://goo.gl/AEYzr to get a gingerbread release with a boot loader.
I will now look for a copy of odin hopefully it doesn't matter which version I get but I've noticed there is allot of fuzz when it comes to odin versions or even where to obtain it even. I want to obtain it from a legitimate source but it seems as though there is no specific location as to where to get it.
At some point I would like to try Cyanogen as everyone holds it in rather high regard though I'm not really sure what the benefits would be.
Some roms on here come with odin. You can also get it from samfirmware. The development thread is where you will find all information for each release. There's a few sources for cwm flashable modems. Odin isn't bad at all, it can be a little finicky with win 7 64 bit for some people but I have had no problems with it at all. Good luck and hope you find a rom that suits you.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA Premium App
shadoslayer said:
There isn't really anything specific for the i9000m. Really, its just a matter of picking a rom and following the flashing instructions. If you're flashing a stock release (like JVH lets say), use Odin, flash the tarball with update bootloader checked and once thats done, flash an appropriate modem for Bell (for 850mhz), like KC1 that I find works very well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you see much of a difference with the KC1 modem? Im running the JVO modem and it works fine for me usually have 3-4 bar connection, 3G tends to run quite often and get a 1Mbps down and 2 Mbps up connection, only thing I notice is that it runs on the 1900 band mostly
Any benefits to switching to KC1? Battery savings?
Do you see much of a difference with the KC1 modem? Im running the JVO modem and it works fine for me usually have 3-4 bar connection, 3G tends to run quite often and get a 1Mbps down and 2 Mbps up connection, only thing I notice is that it runs on the 1900 band mostly
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Turns out the
PDA: XWJVH
MODEM: XXJVO
CSC: NEEJV3 or XEEJV3 (Only difference between NEE and XEE is the CSC code)
Build Date: Wed May 4 18:03:59 KST 2011
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
seems to work fine with working modem from http://goo.gl/02b7S
BUT
there is no OpenVpn OR SIP and those are the two things that I really wanted out of gingerbread.
I personally found JL2 better than KC1. I get up to 5mb/s down and 3mb/s up.
About cyanogen, you gotta try it to see . I didn't believe the difference would be noticeable either...
If you want modems for cm7, click the JL2 modem link in my sig, there's a post full of them.
For modems for other roms, look over there : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876391
And just like everyone else said, you can flash i9000 roms on i9000m without any problems - in fact even flashing a different modem isn't necessary, depending on your provider, it's just better.
those are features commonly found within the custom roms for jvh
Thanks for this thread. Provided the modem for me to get this working properly.
If I were you I would stick with a Daryky rom. his 10 finaly is a little slow and glitchy at times so I recommend 10 RC6. it's a stock jvh rom with his tweeks. Cyanogen is basically vanilla rom. it's so fast (the best i've flashed so far) but it's missing swype, like you stated you wanted that. I tried getting the beta swype but it didn't work. anyways i'm actually liking the gingerbread keyboard haha. so ya, if you need swype stick with darky rom, if your looking to try an amazing rom try cyanogen.
The swype beta installed without any problems for me on cm7...
The only thing is I speak french, so either I get the english keyboard, or I get the "France" french one... which is AZERTY... u_U
spectre85 said:
If I were you I would stick with a Daryky rom. his 10 finaly is a little slow and glitchy at times so I recommend 10 RC6. it's a stock jvh rom with his tweeks. Cyanogen is basically vanilla rom. it's so fast (the best i've flashed so far) but it's missing swype, like you stated you wanted that. I tried getting the beta swype but it didn't work.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I used Darky's rom for a looong time before switching to something else. I really didn't like the theme (at the time), and I found roms that seemed to perform better. I also ran a deodexed JL2 that I cooked myself for a while.
You can get swipe APKs from just about any custom rom out there, just pull the apk out of the .zip and install it. Or, I just signed up for swipe beta and installed it - works great.
Anyway, I guess the bottom line is that there are so many options available, and so many fantastic cooked roms available in the development thread, that trying them and finding one you really like is the only way to go.
I just got a captivate last night and i have unlocked and and rooted it
it has a firmware of 2.1 - update 1
idk if thats the most recent update
i was told i can not update the phone with a t-mobile sim card in it so can anyone post a thread on updated versions and what do you all think is the best rom?
THANKS
There is no "best" rom. It's what's "best" for you. Read the forums and learn to flash 2.2 roms first.
I must warn you, flashing becomes very addictive.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
Yea i know i have a sidekick 4g and ive tried about every rom on it
thanks for the info though
Tyler0309 said:
Yea i know i have a sidekick 4g and ive tried about every rom on it
thanks for the info though
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I recommend trying MIUI, the customization is what puts it over the top!
Here are a few different versions of MIUI:
Galnet**What I prefer**
http://www.galnetmiui.co.uk/twooey/v3/Twooey-V3-i897.zip
Prototypes release
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1066885
MIUI.us
http://roms.miui.us/1.8.12/MIUI.us_captivatemtd_1.8.12_Eng_Deo_ZipA_Signed.zip
Ok ill give it a try..do i have to update to a different version> im running 2.1 right now
Tyler0309 said:
Ok ill give it a try..do i have to update to a different version> im running 2.1 right now
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've not been on 2.1 since phone came out. I would use odin one click to goto 2.2 stock. Root it then install cwm and then follow this guide if your going to try Galnet's MIUI.
http://www.galnetmiui.co.uk/content/forum/guides/(guide)-i897-galaxy-s-captivate-gb-bootloaders/
Then just pop the MIUI.zip on root of sdcard and install from CWM.
Tyler0309 said:
I just got a captivate last night and i have unlocked and and rooted it
it has a firmware of 2.1 - update 1
idk if thats the most recent update
i was told i can not update the phone with a t-mobile sim card in it so can anyone post a thread on updated versions and what do you all think is the best rom?
THANKS
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow... so... You should probably READ a lot more before flashing anything, but I'll give you a few hints to get you going:
1) Make sure you understand what a "PBL", "SBL", "Kernel", and "Modem" are and how they are placed/installed in your phone.
2) Learn how to correctly and safely use ODIN (and/or Heimdall).
3) Learn about the various methods of recovery for "soft bricks", and if necessary for your hardware revision, possibly invest in a jig (also learn what a jig is)
4) There are 2 different types/branches of ROMs for the Captivate:
-- Samsung Branch
-- AOSP Branch
Within the "Samsung" types you have:
- i9000 ROMs (like JVP, JVR, JP8, etc)
- i897 ROMs (like JF6, KF1, etc)
Within the "AOSP" types you have:
- CM7
- MIUI
- Other AOSP-based ROMs
Which is "better" is relative. CM7 and MIUI have features that aren't present in the Samsung ROMs, and both offer a bit more customization than the Samsung ROMs. However, only the Samsung ROMs offer GPU accelerated video playback, and they tend to have significantly better battery life than the AOSP-type ROMs. Also the Samsung-type ROMs used to be much more stable than the AOSP branches, but recently, the tide may have turned in the other direction. Some of the low-level radio settings are also unavailable in any of the AOSP builds. And finally, some of the Samsung stock camera features are unavailable in CM7/MIUI.
It really all depends what you want... Do you want closer to stock "open source" Android? Or do you want Samsung's vision of what they think Android should be?
Also, the whole kernel/modem part is dependent on what branch of ROM you plan on running. When using a i9000-Samsung ROM, you pretty much have to use an i9000 kernel and modem. When using a i897-Samsung ROM, you pretty much have to use an i897 kernel and modem. The rules for CM7/MIUI are a bit more vague, but at the very least you'll need to use a CM7/MIUI (most AOSP-type kernels are interchangeable) compatible kernel.
The best advice is really to try them all out and see what you like the most. If you're currently on stock 2.1 (which it sounds like you are), at the very least you should upgrade to some variant of Gingerbread (2.3.4 preferably). You will definitely notice a big difference in terms of speed and functionality. From there, well, it's all really up to you...
OR alternatively, just start throwing stuff on your phone and see what happens. Just PLEASE don't come crying back in the Captivate General forum with a "OMG I bricked my phone!!! Plz help!!!" thread. Fair warning...
Just a suggestion, but become familiar with Odin one click. Make sure your captivate has 3 button recovery, and read, re- read, and read again the directions of every rom before you flash it. Always make a nandroid back up if possible, and read the threads.if you have questions, so did someone else and the answer is probably already out there .use search. Some People will rip your head off if you don't. as far as miui goes .....i was a flashaholic when I got phone. After switching to miui, It is very unlikely that I will ever leave. Best rom ever imho. And it updates every Friday so that satisfied the flashing urge. Usually it gets better with each release. The last couple have been a little rough though. Might want to spend the 8 bucks and have a download jig on standby. Can get it from mobiltech videos. Its worth it though
Sent from my I897 using XDA Premium App
Shammyh said:
Wow... so... You should probably READ a lot more before flashing anything, but I'll give you a few hints to get you going:
1) Make sure you understand what a "PBL", "SBL", "Kernel", and "Modem" are and how the are placed/installed in your phone.
2) Learn how to correctly and safely use ODIN (and/or Heimdall).
3) Learn about the various methods of recovery for "soft bricks", and if necessary for your hardware revision, possibly invest in a jig (also learn what a jig is)
4) There are 2 different types/branches of ROMs for the Captivate:
-- Samsung Branch
-- AOSP Branch
Within the "Samsung" types you have:
- i9000 ROMs (like JVP, JVR, JP8, etc)
- i897 ROMs (like JF6, KF1, etc)
Within the "AOSP" types you have:
- CM7
- MIUI
- Other AOSP-based ROMs
Which is "better" is relative. CM7 and MIUI have features that aren't present in the Samsung ROMs, and both offer a bit more customization than the Samsung ROMs. However, only the Samsung ROMs offer GPU accelerated video playback, and they tend to have significantly better battery life than the AOSP-type ROMs. Also the Samsung-type ROMs used to be much more stable than the AOSP branches, but recently, the tide may have turned in the other direction. Some of the low-level radio settings are also unavailable in any of the AOSP builds. And finally, some of the Samsung stock camera features are unavailable in CM7/MIUI.
It really all depends what you want... Do you want closer to stock "open source" Android? Or do you want Samsung's vision of what they think Android should be?
Also, the whole kernel/modem part is dependent on what branch of ROM you plan on running. When using a i9000-Samsung ROM, you pretty much have to use an i9000 kernel and modem. When using a i897-Samsung ROM, you pretty much have to use an i897 kernel and modem. The rules for CM7/MIUI are a bit more vague, but at the very least you'll need to use a CM7/MIUI (most AOSP-type kernels are interchangeable) compatible kernel.
The best advice is really to try them all out and see what you like the most. If you're currently on stock 2.1 (which it sounds like you are), at the very least you should upgrade to some variant of Gingerbread (2.3.4 preferably). You will definitely notice a big difference in terms of speed and functionality. From there, well, it's all really up to you...
OR alternatively, just start throwing stuff on your phone and see what happens. Just PLEASE don't come crying back in the Captivate General forum with a "OMG I bricked my phone!!! Plz help!!!" thread. Fair warning...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well said.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA Premium App
Tyler0309 said:
I just got a captivate last night and i have unlocked and and rooted it
it has a firmware of 2.1 - update 1
idk if thats the most recent update
i was told i can not update the phone with a t-mobile sim card in it so can anyone post a thread on updated versions and what do you all think is the best rom?
THANKS
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
a very simple and easy way to start with...
2.1 is eclair..
2.2 froyo
2.3 gingerbread..
means 2.1 is oldest and 2.3 is latest in case of official roms..
so obviously new version will hav more features and faster in speed...
so now u can take baby step and install 2.2 ..and use it for few days..and get the feel of it..then again after sometime u can install 2.3...
or else u can directly jump to 2.3....which is gingerbread....u can install stock kf1 on ur phone..its leaked official gb...if u search a bit..u will get it..
then u can use it for a lil while and get the feel of gb stock rom..in the meanwhile u can read xda abt available custom roms..and then install any of them...
coz every memeber here in xda will suggest the custom rom they r using..coz they r lovin the rom then only they r using....like for me..since the time i started flashin..i always used APEX ROM..so i will say its the best....
but again thats just me..
so decision is always urs...