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THIS IS GROUND ZERO for me. LG released a phone with one of the best hardware setups i have seen on any phone, especially with the dual ram dual channel memory. those 2 things coupled with the dual core processor, make this phone incredibly smooth. i am currently running Thriller on it, and though the Dev for said rom bailed out on us, i still have hope that this phone will continue to improve, and those of us who see the true potential of this device, will continue to have faith, and work with each other to make improvements.
personally, i'm wanting to start development using the ICS SDK and hopefully port a great version of the software onto this phone. i know it's ambitious, and i know it would take a long time, BUT, this is something that i want to do, to learn the skills of rom building, and possibly make a career out of it (i dunno, get on at Google as a Dev there or something?)
i know that to port ICS onto this device, i'm going to have to write drivers for the rom from scratch, and as i have no prior knowledge of how to do that, it may take a while, but seeing as it all runs of the same base kernal as Linux, as well as MacOS X, those who actually do have knowledge of how to do this, could be a great help. if anyone is interested in helping me in this journey, PM me. "There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why... I dream of things that never were, and ask why not?" well, i say WHY NOT?!?! if there's a will, there's a way, right? who knows, maybe we'll get ICS ported before LG even announces that they're gonna be upgrading to it (newer-as of 2011 dunno exactly when-google polocies state that any phone launched with an android OS are required to update to the newest OS within 18 months of launch)? now wouldn't that be a smack in the face to LG? a bunch of unpatient people who were unwilling to wait for their bloody port to a new version of software, banding to gether to make it happen before they can. PM me if you're with me. i'll give personal, private contact information to anyone who sounds at least as serious as i do about this.- IrishPunk
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Use the search function on how to build roms and yeah we do have plenty of devs in here.
Agreed, when I saw gtg was gone it was like a balloon deflated. DG is gone too. We may never get fully functional CWM, and doubtful the O3D ROMs will port fully.
Guess its good I still have a few days to swap for the SGS II.
I guess I will have to take my humble pie as I do. I never thought I would take the Thrill back, I chose the Thrill knowing the SGS II was right there. But, I don't want to kick myself in a month when that window is done, and the used price of the Thrill has already tanked.
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I'm past my return window, and it just sucks that this phone is a month old, and everyone is losing hope and returning it. I'll just stick it out with my multiple batteries and learn to work on it.
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Everyone is bailing too early. I mean this Will get GB it's just a matter of time and patience which seems to be lacking with a Lot of people who bought this phone. Regardless though I assume building a Rom will be easier once GB get's rolled out although I could be wrong.
Patience will pay off in the end. If for nothing else, than to fix the battery life which seems to be what's running everyone off. I had the horrible Dell Streak when we waited for like a year for Froyo. If I can do that, I can wait on GB.
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yup yup
I learned alot about this stuff messing with my inspire.. when i heard about the thrill coming out i was like "finally theres something like the evo 3d for att" it was a no brainer when my upgrade came a few days ago.
I did tell myself that i would give the phone a week to wow me.. or id be exchanging it for a SGS2.. however.. every day i read these forums, and the O3D forums and im constantly being amazed.. ive found an excelent rom and have almost worked out all the mms, 4g issues from using a O3D rom..
everyday im just a little closer to friday and the trade back.. but every day im amazed just a little more.. id love to learn the rom building process but i frankly do not have time.. every dev. ive ever dealt with has been more than courteous as long as i did make an attempt to look into the issue on my own first.. im excitedly awating CM7 for this phone and its almost there.. all i need now is an OC kernel to crank up this 1ghz dual core and ive got my daily user for the next 2 years..
I eagerly log in each day looking for what new tidbit is up and running.. i love being on the ground floor when everyone is bailing... the same happened for a couple of weeks with the inspire if you remember.. it was a pain to root.. but those that stuck in there found the wait to be worth it.. the same will happen with the Thrill.. im sure of it..
just hang in there guys and thank you to all the devs that are more knowledgeable than me. your work IS greatly appreciated.. your all my heroes..
Thanks again.. I think im in it for the long haul with the Thrill..
I started out using ROMs on the Streak, but have never tried to build one until now. Have you ever tried searching the forums for Android ROM building? Yeah good luck with that. I've even tried just googling Android froyo ROM creation, most of what comes up is for HTC.
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im not giving up on this phone.. its one of the best so far.. its so much fun having it .. lets just hope for a better tomorrow .. with roms all over ... like the good old days with the tilts
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im not giving up on this phone.. its one of the best so far.. its so much fun having it .. lets just hope for a better tomorrow .. with roms all over ... like the good old days with the tilts
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Oh wow haha I guess it started way before my Streak. I forgot all about my tilt 2 that I put all sorts of roms on.
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well..
if were gonna go back..
the hardest thing i ever did was put "3d" custom flash menus on my SonyEricsson W810i...
among.. other stuff..
but i believe the SEw819i was when i got the modding bug.. lol
Right now my concentration is on modding my Thrill and these original Xboxes that were just given to me Woot! Lol
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I'm past my return window, and it just sucks that this phone is a month old, and everyone is losing hope and returning it. I'll just stick it out with my multiple batteries and learn to work on it.
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well how about you ask gtg465x for his kitchen, he's left the thrill, so he might be willing to help
If you do find the needed tools plz let me know. I'd love to try my hand at helping to develop for the thrill. I work for att and all my coworkers have ditched the thrill for the sg2 but I like the thrill way too much to leave it.
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Aah a fellow co-worker! Glad another AT&T employee is keeping it real with the thrill lol. I am always searching but don't come up with any results on LG Android Rom creation. Then if you ask in a post all you're gonna get is a smartass telling you to search for it. I'll find it one day!
Of course I've already got adb and the android sdk, I just need to know what I need to go with it.
Well you will need linux but here on the forums you can find something called Android Utility. Pretty much comes with everything you need to make roms, edit apks even some boot.img tools. For windows i have no clue, I do everything in linux. Good luck.
Aah once again Linux and I come face to face. I suppose it's time to bite the bullet.
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Aah once again Linux and I come face to face. I suppose it's time to bite the bullet.
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Linux can be fun. I would suggest Ubuntu, also a lot of people run Linux in a virtual machine inside windows. If you have any questions feel free to pm me. I enjoy playing with Linux.
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Awesome, thanks. Gonna start downloading.
Reason# 1,000,001 Android is better than the iPhone. I can download Ubuntu our whatever else I want with my phone while at work.
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Dude, loving some Ubuntu! Where has this been all my life? I have the Android utility downloaded, but will have to wait for tomorrow because I have to download Java. Always something lol
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I am about to buy a used nexus s (going to sell my sensation after I get it). I hate sense and I really want some of that ics action (I know kmobs is working on it, but the nexus will have support from google + a TON of great devs, not just the 3 working on the sensation cm team).
The reason why I'm posting this is to give you guys a chance to convince me to stay with my sensation. The nexus s seems like the better phone to me, but if one of you guys can convince me otherwise, please do.
P.S. Not trying to hate on the devs over here, it just seems like all of them are so focused on sense, very few aosp roms.
Hello, gonintendo. Can you please provide 5 reasons of why we should convince you to stay. Thank you.
I had the nexus one and nexus s. I took development for granted. Now I'm selling my sensation and waiting for my galaxy nexus to arrive. Not liking what Verizon is doing to the galaxy nexus.
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Hello, gonintendo. Can you please provide 5 reasons of why we should convince you to stay. Thank you.
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Because you (I assume) love your sensation and the community built around it here on xda? I have convinced myself that I want a nexus s, which doesn't necessarily mean that it's the best phone for me, confirmation bias is a *****. Perhaps there is something huge that I am overlooking that would make it worth my while to stick with my sensation.
Had it before this phone. Main reason I never picked it up again is the screen. Its terrible.
Kinda wish I'd kept it for development though. O well
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Assuming you know the specs, but anyways...
Dual core
8mp camera with 1080p
larger screen with higher resolution
Option to run sense or not
ICS will come, and with that many more AOSP type ROMs
Plus tbh... I think this phone will run much better once it has ics support... It doesn't yet and the nexus s is smooth... But if you want simile specs minus quite as much dev support just get a vibrant probably for half price of the nexus...
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Nexus s is a great phone. Awesome audio chip, camera rocks despite lower pixels. I loved it. I bought tgis phone for the bigger screen.
I had a Nexus S for a week,talk about a **** build, I hated it, plastic kills me. I couldn't use it. Too vanilla for my taste and THAT plastic.
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Just get the nexus. You'll probably be happier.
If this phone isn't doing it for you, you should sell it and get what will satisfy your needs. Don't concern yourself with what others think.
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If this phone isn't doing it for you, you should sell it and get what will satisfy your needs. Don't concern yourself with what others think.
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I'm never happy with any phone, I have ocd lol. Thanks for the advice guys, I think I'm going to go for it.
Screw the Sensation, it has so many buggs it makes me sick. I regret buying it
What is this, a forum filled with angsty teenagers, threatening to switch their phones? Nobody cares if you switch, go ahead and do it if you're not happy with it! This isn't a religious group, it's a dev forum.
Seems like the new HTC models have pissed off people who simply must have the latest technology....
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The reason why I'm posting this is to give you guys a chance to convince me to stay with my sensation. The nexus s seems like the better phone to me, but if one of you guys can convince me otherwise, please do.
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the only thing thats stopping me is Nexus/S does not have micro SD card capability
( some one correct me if I'm wrong about it )
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I hate sense ...
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I think that pretty much sums up your justification, provided that the cost to change phones is a non-issue.
one thing I see is "I hate sense". I say sell it why own an htc device knowing your getting sense..
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What is this, a forum filled with angsty teenagers, threatening to switch their phones? Nobody cares if you switch, go ahead and do it if you're not happy with it! This isn't a religious group, it's a dev forum.
Seems like the new HTC models have pissed off people who simply must have the latest technology....
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I'm not asking you to care, I am trying to make an informed decision. Relax, I sense some angst in your post.
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one thing I see is "I hate sense". I say sell it why own an htc device knowing your getting sense..
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I had never used sense prior to buying the sensation. I had played with sense 2.x on a buddy's thunderbolt and I actually liked it quite a bit. I don't know what they were thinking when they put 3.0 together. Everything about it is slower, uglier and less usable than the previous version imo.
Seems like a massive downgrade to me. Maybe I am wrong... but... I doubt it
is it me or is it the rom developments for incs has slowed down significantly?
i dont see any new roms popping up.. most of the recently active roms have slowed down too.. are we getting left behind?
think (hope) it will pickup after first official ICS Sense roms starts to leak. on the other hand, incredible S is starting to be a bit outdated (although it has some decent hardware), more focus seems to be on the dual core, more popular devices. we gotta admit, incredible s isn't that popular - we don't even officially have it on any carriers in my country.
I think the main cause is 'android fragmentation'. You may have heard of this term before. There's too many android devices, each further HTC device release caused all of us to separate into different development sections.
Back in the G1, Nexus one days it was much easier since there were relatively few devices..
Now all the new stuff's out, lots of people want to jump to Galaxy Nexus, so on.
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think (hope) it will pickup after first official ICS Sense roms starts to leak. on the other hand, incredible S is starting to be a bit outdated (although it has some decent hardware), more focus seems to be on the dual core, more popular devices. we gotta admit, incredible s isn't that popular - we don't even officially have it on any carriers in my country.
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The funny thing is dual core doesn't offer much improvement over the single, it seems like a lot of hype going on over nothing. probably over 3/4th or I dare say 90+% of the market is still written for single core applications.
I have the asus transformer 1 and most times I feel like performance is on par if not the same with the IncS, but when compared to my HTC Flyer (View) it feels much speedier since it's got a 1.5Ghz clock speed, the extra 500mhz shows sometimes. It takes heavy games like Shadowgun to see the difference between all devices, which can't be seen much in general surfing and regular phone related app use.
This is one thing that Apple has the advantage to in their gameplay strategy for devs, since they keep the releases specific, once a year. Development of their devices can be pooled and properly 'coordinated' without them moving onto different branches due to hardware, SoC, camera issues and so on.
Agree, if the first ICS HTC ROMs are leaked, development will gain momentum.
Right now, lots of work is spent on getting the camera working in ICS AOSP.
also, we gotta look at this ROM development as a hobby of the devs, one that usually starts with enthusiasm but over time proves to be very time consuming and falls last on their list of priorities. and unfortunately not a lot of people are willing or have the knowledge to fill in for the devs that get out of the game. i'm still reading up on android basics and kernel development, trying to make my first mix. Custom ROM development won't pay the bills, its mostly charity work.
You got to be grateful and appreciate their work.
Just last week there was a developer inviting testers for his vivo port http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475459 and yet strangely, I don't see you contributing anything to the thread... in fact the response from the whole incredible s community was actually pretty unwelcoming. If I was a developer I would bypass this phone also, which seems to be pretty much what happened 6+ months ago.
Somehow, I missed that thread. I tend to not really read the index in general section often but I read the index of the dev section frequently.
I'm trying to jumpstart some action into the IncS, may not be much, but I have been building CM7.2 kangs and in the middle of testing building a CM9 kang, see how it goes.
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Just last week there was a developer inviting testers for his vivo port http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475459 and yet strangely, I don't see you contributing anything to the thread... in fact the response from the whole incredible s community was actually pretty unwelcoming. If I was a developer I would bypass this phone also, which seems to be pretty much what happened 6+ months ago.
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i seemed to have missed his thread. will go over and take a look now
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also, we gotta look at this ROM development as a hobby of the devs, one that usually starts with enthusiasm but over time proves to be very time consuming and falls last on their list of priorities. and unfortunately not a lot of people are willing or have the knowledge to fill in for the devs that get out of the game. i'm still reading up on android basics and kernel development, trying to make my first mix. Custom ROM development won't pay the bills, its mostly charity work.
You got to be grateful and appreciate their work.
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i understand that, but the point that i want to point out here is that is our device getting left behind? im already thinking whether to sell my incs off and get a sensation instead but thinking back how hard nik and the guys worked so hard, it held me back for a moment
So you need to flash your phone 5 times or more per day to be satisfied? Why not use it instead? Heavy case of ORD .
hey bro,see this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490881
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So you need to flash your phone 5 times or more per day to be satisfied? Why not use it instead? Heavy case of ORD .
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lol ORD. not that man.. it's just that i see new roms popping out in the dhd section and the people there are always active and they never sleep. just wondering how can the dhd (old phone) be more popular than incs (newer) lol
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hey bro,see this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490881
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i saw it bro. im pretty much worked up right now haha~ cant wait to try it!
There's a lot of things ppl can "masturbate" to with their phones. Like popularity with more ROMs like Desire HD, Sensation, Galaxy S2. I do it to longer battery life, better camera, radio reception, and it also fit better in my hands and palms ( at least compared to the DHD). More ROMs do not mean better quality ROMs, I'm fully satisfied right now with ARHD, and with the state of Quattro, I haven't even tried it. We're getting ICS officially that's good enough, I can wait for another stable custom ROM based on that. Be happy with what you know and have, ignorant is bliss. And I'm kinda gettings tired of ORD myself, maybe a case of cured one, until something remarkable new popped up .
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There's a lot of things ppl can "masturbate" to with their phones. Like popularity with more ROMs like Desire HD, Sensation, Galaxy S2. I do it to longer battery life, better camera, radio reception, and it also fit better in my hands and palms ( at least compared to the DHD). More ROMs do not mean better quality ROMs, I'm fully satisfied right now with ARHD, and with the state of Quattro, I haven't even tried it. We're getting ICS officially that's good enough, I can wait for another stable custom ROM based on that. Be happy with what you know and have, ignorant is bliss. And I'm kinda gettings tired of ORD myself, maybe a case of cured one, until something remarkable new popped up .
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Amen bro!
I'm with you in every word you said!
+1 for your post.
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There's a lot of things ppl can "masturbate" to with their phones. Like popularity with more ROMs like Desire HD, Sensation, Galaxy S2. I do it to longer battery life, better camera, radio reception, and it also fit better in my hands and palms ( at least compared to the DHD). More ROMs do not mean better quality ROMs, I'm fully satisfied right now with ARHD, and with the state of Quattro, I haven't even tried it. We're getting ICS officially that's good enough, I can wait for another stable custom ROM based on that. Be happy with what you know and have, ignorant is bliss. And I'm kinda gettings tired of ORD myself, maybe a case of cured one, until something remarkable new popped up .
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It's like you said =)
Sometimes you don't need a lot of things to have a great experience.
I remember back in the LG P500 days, there was only one rom and one kernel and the thing was fantastic.Even later new tweaks came,new roms,new kernels but the simpler ones were the best.
I like very much nikhil007mmus's work and Virtuous Team work, both very stable and fast.
I even suggested nikhil007mmus to talk with Francisco Franco to share some ideas to make even greater kernels for our device (kernel devs, don't get me wrong, I am not saying your work is bad, I don't even test it, but what I do know is that this man makes GREAT kernels, with great performance,great battery life and it keeps them simple.I tested his kernels in the P500 (Wich made the thing fast as hell (For a 600MHz device of course) and in the Nexus S (I got 2 full days of battery life with wifi,3g,lots of calls,etc etc and fast as hell).
Hope it get's even better here =)
Problem is the Incredible S was not a popular phone to begin among devs. Not like the Nexus One, Desire HD, Sensation and Galaxy S II.
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The bad and nice thing of HTC phones is, they have a bunch of devices with practically nearly identical internal HW. Thus you don't actually really need that many devs on one device in particular. The way I see it, quality is way more important, we already have Android fragmentation like some say, now we also have custom ROM fragmentation . All Sense 3.5 roms failed for me when toggling data. It would not be that much of a problem on Samsung as they don't disable data during call, but HTC do, and sometimes after call data doesn't come up which is a major problem for me as I need auto-sync for a bunch of services and it is the most annoying bug of all. I wish devs collaborated more for less ROMs but better quality. It also means less duplicated effort.
For now I'm using a ROM Cleaned ARHD 2.1.3 with Ultra Smooth Rosie, batt mod, odexed, and some tweaks in init.d. It's smooth like butter and I think that I can be happy until whenever ICS comes out, unless some Sense 3.5 custom ROM devs fixed the bug above. Just use your phone, the best is yet to come. And if you're too trigger happy buy Samsung GSII to flash around and chaotic development. My brother has one and I am actually the one modding it for him. It's insanely fast yet I do not want it (because of aesthetic, functional reasons and knowing what is enough) even though I can afford it.
Is it just me or have the custom ROMs gotten boring. All of them are the same now. There is nothing really setting them apart anymore they all have the same features the same ui. Yes I know its KitKat but it really. Where is the difference.
Make one brotha! Stock based roms are pretty snappy as is and most devs have moved on to newer devices at this point. I'm still on Negaman's latest.
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Make one brotha! Stock based roms are pretty snappy as is and most devs have moved on to newer devices at this point. I'm still on Negaman's latest.
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I have built plenty ROMs. And on two teams. I'm not a TW user. I've used nega rom seen issues with it and didnt like the theme but that was my own opinion.
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Then my question to you is if you are capable of building your own rom.....the way you would like it for yourself, why complain that they are all the same? Why not build your own that could be very much different.....with the performance and the theming to fit your own taste. It really is as simple as that.
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Then my question to you is if you are capable of building your own rom.....the way you would like it for yourself, why complain that they are all the same? Why not build your own that could be very much different.....with the performance and the theming to fit your own taste. It really is as simple as that.
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Look I'm not here to get slammed by people I was just putting it out there to find out from other people if they felt the same.
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Look I'm not here to get slammed by people I was just putting it out there to find out from other people if they felt the same.
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I'm sure a lot of people feel the same way. The only difference is they keep their whiny, disrespectful opinions to themselves.
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I'm sure a lot of people feel the same way. The only difference is they keep their whiny, disrespectful opinions to themselves.
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I agree. The roms available all seem too alike. Most have bugs. And if not they seem to lack features id put in standard.. i am not a rom dev.. but have been working on my own. It will be a compilation of miui aosp and aome cherry picks. But again.. its gonna be the same base.. what can i do to make mine different? We're all stuck using either samsungs crap base or cm... I'm getting discouraged. :'(
Why Android is so awesome
The beauty of Android is the ability to make it any way you like. It has already been said, but I would like to reinforce this idea. ROMs are all very similar because the MAJORITY of people have the same basic requirements from their phones. This means that the feature set that most people demand is very similar, and therefore the features offered in the various ROMs will be similar as well.
The people who make ROMs that are overly different from the 'normal' do it primarily for their own benefit, and their specific needs are not often shared by others. So these "unique" ROMs never really get out because there isn't a demand for them.
I personally have done many of my own "purpose-built" ROMs that go outside the normal, but posting them wouldn't make much sense, because the things that are different are not needed by other people. Also, supporting a COMMUNITY of people who use your ROM is much harder than supporting yourself. I can make ROM changes for myself, but I absolutely do not have time to try to upkeep a ROM thread. The work that those guys put in is INCREDIBLE. Making a ROM work for one person on one phone in one configuration is trivial compared to trying to roll out a mass-compatible distribution. The only ROMs that are worth that kind of time are the ROMs that suit the needs of many, not the needs of few. Therefore, the ROMs that are distributed online are all seeking to fill the same basic roles.
As to how you can make your ROM unique, that is like asking how to make a car unique. First you have to decide what you want. Do you want a race car (speed)? Do you want amazing gas mileage (battery life)? Does it need to be street legal (compatibility)? Do you care about color (theme)? Do you need a great sound system (music player)?
I think you begin to see what I mean. You can make a ROM unique in many ways, but you have to figure out what you want from the ROM before you can figure out what the ROM needs to be like.
You also mentioned that many ROMs are buggy. Get used to it. Especially if you are going to start building your own. I don't mean to sound harsh, but that is the nature of the game. If you want maximum stability, go back to stock. Everything has a trade-off. If you want great features, you will have to work through the glitches. I am not saying that a "perfect" ROM is impossible, but be prepared to put in the time. The ROM devs around here do everything they can, but ultimately they also have full-time jobs doing other things. If each of the custom ROMs on this forum had the 500 man full-time dev team that Samsung has, the ROMs would be just as stable. Unfortunately, that isn't the case.
Welcome to the world of Android, my friend. Have fun building!
I feel like that was completely unnecessary and very untrue. Ive ran several 'stable' AOSP/CM roms and the one im building is quite stable thank you.
A base is just a base. The features i add are always in demand. And some may or may not be activated upon flashing. Thats up to the user to
decide. imo this whole conversation seems to lure in bashers. All i did was ask for some simple advice. Ill take my leave now.
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I feel like that was completely unnecessary and very untrue. Ive ran several 'stable' AOSP/CM roms and the one im building is quite stable thank you.
A base is just a base. The features i add are always in demand. And some may or may not be activated upon flashing. Thats up to the user to
decide. imo this whole conversation seems to lure in bashers. All i did was ask for some simple advice. Ill take my leave now.
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I just want to say that I meant no disrespect! And I am very happy you have a stable ROM. All I was suggesting is that I would guess you have had some bumps in the road along the way. I am confident that you have worked through them, or are in the process of doing so, but I would wager to bet that in the future you will run into more bumps. You will fix them and all will be good.
I am simply trying to point out that in the process of adding new features, often we encounter issues, bugs, glitches, etc. If you haven't, then I think you are extremely lucky and in a league of your own as far as programming goes. Far above me and many others.
And if the features you add are always in demand, then I propose that you are adding features that are similar to what many others are adding. I could be wrong, but I feel that to meet the demands of the masses it is easy to fall into a trail that closely parallels others. There are certain unique differences, but in the end I think that this is why ROMs are similar today.
Anyway, please know that I meant you no disrespect or flame. I was just trying to explain my perspective on why there was not as much variation as we would all like, and why occasionally someone discovers a bug.
Very well written. And well said. Yes theres always a problem when adding/removing features.. but the point is to release when its stable/feature rich. Anyways. I thank you for the input. And soon DUI (DaisUI) will hit xda servers.
cuz aosp is aosp no matter how u look at it. differences are kernels.. updated toolchains.. and customizations... like nameless roms otg mode.. pretty neat.. or sokps dolby audio... its easy to cherry pick stuff u like about roms n drop them into cm... rom devs really just making stuff THEY like n sharing with us
I have just moved from sprint s3 to s4. Was a huge fan of m.o.a.r., wicked sensations, and wicked x. For their customized everything. I am NOT a programmer so please don't slam me. But most of the roms I have seen for the s4 are kind of vanilla. Are there any roms like wicked out there for s4 or is it time to learn to do it myself?
Reverend Gonzo said:
I have just moved from sprint s3 to s4. Was a huge fan of m.o.a.r., wicked sensations, and wicked x. For their customized everything. I am NOT a programmer so please don't slam me. But most of the roms I have seen for the s4 are kind of vanilla. Are there any roms like wicked out there for s4 or is it time to learn to do it myself?
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You can try out negalite
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dead forum is dead forum.. can't really complain considering how dead development for the device really is.. i think there are too many phones these days being released which does has an impact on how much modding happens. i remember the days of the ppc-6700/touchpro/2/etc and how those devices even after years there was tons of active stuff going on (and those were WM devices lol). now the peak of most devices tend to be 6 months before people seem to lose interest and they upgrade to the next phone with barely any improvements. i tend to stick to a phone for at least 2 to maybe 3 gens before i swap. currently i'm on the S4 and skipped the S5 because how lackluster it is.. will wait to see how the S6 looks like, but i think the S4 will be my last samsung for a while.. my eyes are set on the Xperia Z3 coming out to sprint this fall. samsung seems to be stuck in the plastic shell generation after generation.. well this is a whole other topic
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dead forum is dead forum.. can't really complain considering how dead development for the device really is.. i think there are too many phones these days being released which does has an impact on how much modding happens. i remember the days of the ppc-6700/touchpro/2/etc and how those devices even after years there was tons of active stuff going on (and those were WM devices lol). now the peak of most devices tend to be 6 months before people seem to lose interest and they upgrade to the next phone with barely any improvements. i tend to stick to a phone for at least 2 to maybe 3 gens before i swap. currently i'm on the S4 and skipped the S5 because how lackluster it is.. will wait to see how the S6 looks like, but i think the S4 will be my last samsung for a while.. my eyes are set on the Xperia Z3 coming out to sprint this fall. samsung seems to be stuck in the plastic shell generation after generation.. well this is a whole other topic
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S3 seems to be running strong still. Had I not dropped mine, I would have stayed with it.
Which rom are you running on your S4
I found Negalite and really like it... but it looks like its dead too.
You guys know there is a Unified Development forum for the S4 right? Most non-TW ROMs have moved to there.
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You guys know there is a Unified Development forum for the S4 right? Most non-TW ROMs have moved to there.
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For some reason that sub forum doesn't work with Tapatalk for me, always wants to open in chrome. Anyone else experience this or know why it happens?
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For some reason that sub forum doesn't work with Tapatalk for me, always wants to open in chrome. Anyone else experience this or know why it happens?
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Redirects don't work on mobile apps. The real thread is located in the International Galaxy S4 section. Here is the real thread if you want to subscribe in Tapatalk http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/unified-development
I came to Nexus from an HTC One. I know that fact that the main thing with the Nexus is to have a simple, fast, stable and latest vanilla Android, but Im getting bored All the ROM;s look pretty much the same and most of the launchers/themes I used were either poorly designed, slowing down the phone, or draining the battery.
With the HTC I was able to switch to vastly different ROMs (Vanilla, HTC Sense, MIUI, Ubuntu etc.) whenever I want to experience different ways of using Android but with the Nexus i feel its very stale.
I searched the forums and there are no other options. Any idea why? Or are there and i'm too dumb to find them?
Well porting something like sense or touchwiz would be way too much work due to chunks of them being closed source. We could probably have miui or ubuntu though, would just need someone to be interested in doing it.
Imo there is a certain group of people who want to flash other devices in order to get an aosp like experience. It's these people who the nexus line appeals to.
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Kind of surprised there is no Ubuntu port (at least that I'm aware of). MIUI is too far behind. Last I checked it's still KK based, so we don't have a base to use, and besides, we are playing around with M, so almost two named releases ahead.
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I came to Nexus from an HTC One. I know that fact that the main thing with the Nexus is to have a simple, fast, stable and latest vanilla Android, but Im getting bored All the ROM;s look pretty much the same and most of the launchers/themes I used were either poorly designed, slowing down the phone, or draining the battery.
With the HTC I was able to switch to vastly different ROMs (Vanilla, HTC Sense, MIUI, Ubuntu etc.) whenever I want to experience different ways of using Android but with the Nexus i feel its very stale.
I searched the forums and there are no other options. Any idea why? Or are there and i'm too dumb to find them?
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very easy solution. make your own rom if you are bored with the n6 rom options. no one is stopping you, nor hindering any if your creativity. if you dont want to, then you need to apologize to all if our developers that are here on the n6, for calling out their "worthless" roms. launchers/themes have nothing to do with it, as they are different developers. again, your option is to use your own creativity and make a creative rom, or be a good soul and appreciate what we already have.
It's funny because I saw this thread title and thought "no variety in threads". I come from a Samsung and HTC background and we never had these threads, but now I see this same thread being posted every week.
Just a case of "should have done your research before buying". Personally, I find a wider variety here than either from my HTC days or my short stint with LG.
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very easy solution. make your own rom if you are bored with the n6 rom options. no one is stopping you, nor hindering any if your creativity. if you dont want to, then you need to apologize to all if our developers that are here on the n6, for calling out their "worthless" roms. launchers/themes have nothing to do with it, as they are different developers. again, your option is to use your own creativity and make a creative rom, or be a good soul and appreciate what we already have.
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That's a great advice man, after I get bored of League of Legends maybe, just maybe, ill use my creativity and develop the next great moba....
And the one calling them "worthless" is you my friend, I just said i'm bored of them because they look 99% the same, that's it.
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Just a case of "should have done your research before buying". Personally, I find a wider variety here than either from my HTC days or my short stint with LG.
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You are right, I could have looked into it before buying, but its too late now
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That's a great advice man, after I get bored of League of Legends maybe, just maybe, ill use my creativity and develop the next great moba....
And the one calling them "worthless" is you my friend, I just said i'm bored of them because they look 99% the same, that's it.
You are right, I could have looked into it before buying, but its too late now
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fine, not "worthless", but " boring", my bad :silly:
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And the one calling them "worthless" is you my friend, I just said i'm bored of them because they look 99% the same, that's it.
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Learn to theme and they won't look the same. Mine looks different.
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Learn to theme and they won't look the same. Mine looks different.
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