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Hey guys!
I just discovered an annoying feature on my SGS which I think is a general feature of Android phones...
I usually text long messages (I'm on an unlimited SMS plan) and I get frustrated at the fact that whenever I pass the 3 SMS point, it auto-converts my SMS to MMS. This would be useful for those whose carriers naturally charge less for 1 MMS as compared to long SMS but mine isn't one of them (15 php/mms versus 1 php/sms or free)... and besides I'm on unlimited SMS so this "feature" wastes that plan of mine.
Anyway, I was wondering if there's any way at all to suppress this behavior. A quick Google led me to solutions of just cutting back on texts/sending them in multiple parts or using Handcent SMS app.
The first is too inconvenient for me and the recipients of my texts and cutting back on texting is difficult for me and shouldn't be a solution.
As for the second, I've tried Handcent and it does have a setting to not auto-convert long SMS to MMS but I dislike the layout/theme. I prefer having the look of the original messaging app of the Galaxy S. Nice and clean and blends with the look of the whole system. No matter what tweak I do to the themes and such, it just doesn't look good for me.
So my question is...if Handcent SMS has a setting of suppressing that behavior of Android, is there some way to do that without Handcent SMS? Maybe just a simple app or a tweak somewhere in the software perhaps?
Thanks so much in advance! This is really too annoying a feature and I just want to be rid of it.
I know this is sort of old but I am wondering the same thing. Anybody have any answers?
Foryo is said to keep it as sms http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=74cc9dfbd1669f47&hl=en
EDITED: didn't completely read first post.
I'm not sure if chompSMS has the option too, but it's much closer to the layout/simplicity of the original app.
Yeah from my research on the issue Froyo will in fact fix this issue...here's to hoping it will come out some time soon for SGS!!! I'm tired of copy pasting my long texts into Handcent SMS :/ it caused a disastrous mis-send recently )
I have yet to try ChompSMS..I'll give it a go later and report the results. If it does look better and has that feature then I guess it can help me deal better with this issue until Froyo comes out. :O
Anyone who has tried the Froyo beta for SGS willing to report if this issue really is resolved?
Thanks!!!
Still here
This issue is not resolved and is extremely irritating. Surely with all the Dev powar here this could be easily taken care of? I'd do it myself if I knew how...
Can someone please let us know how to stop SMS converting to MMS.
Handcent SMS works perfect for me when I need to type a long sms. But I hate that app and would love to stick to the standard one.
I am also irritated by this problem and could not find a way to deal with it other than dividing it manually; I am running on Froyo and it's there, very frustrating.
SargeRX8 said:
Handcent SMS works perfect for me when I need to type a long sms. But I hate that app and would love to stick to the standard one.
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I also started using Handcent to deal with this issue and I'm very happy with it.
I find it very much like the stock application.
Its not really an andriod problem but a messaging application problem from samsung
Same here in Slovenia...my recipients also get the “broken message“ text sometimes,folowed by another sms with the txt ive written.
I also hate that if the reception is poor and u cant send an sms or mms, the phone wont retry sending when the reception is back... What gives,dammit?
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Did anybody found solution for that?
MindFever, I'm also from Slovenia. Did you have problems with sending mms? It wont sent to Croatia numbers, and sometimes it won't sent to anybody or recieve it from others
Hi I have this very frustrating conversion problem also, handcent is a waste of time. so is orange (my network) they are aware of the problem but say that there is a fix on the way from android but noone knows when!!!!!!! anyone help in the meantime?
Hello!
I too have this very problem on my phone (running Darky's RC4). I don't want to use any 3rd-party application to solve this issue like handcent or chop. Is there a mod or a fix that I could use to fix this problem?
Any help would be appreciated.
Regards
Same for Galaxy Tab
Hi guys,
I have a galaxy tab and the same problem, checked under froyo and gingerbread. I thinks that in fact it is a Samsung problem and not android. It's just the messaging app that sucks. Waiting for samsung to fix it, I tried handcent and it's ok.
check the modified version here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065452
So I've been lurking and learning a lot on these forums. I have tried 3 different ROMS (wiping everything in-between) and none of them seem to be able to send text messages that need to be automatically broken up into more than one message. Instead it just fails. Shorter messages send just fine.
I am currently running the newest Zen Aria release I downloaded from here on 9/2/10.
I Had the same problem with CM 6 and another ROM I can't remember. I was hoping Zen would fix the problem since it is a 2.1 release with Sense.
Any ideas as to what I need to do to fix the problem?
Thanks from noob.
Are you using the stock messenger? If so, try Handcent. I know that it will send 160+ character messages on CM6, as I just sent a grocery list to the wife.
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Thanks for the quick reply! I just tried Handcent, nice program. Unfortunately, I still would get a failure notice whenever I tried to send a message with more than 160 characters. Any more ideas out there?
In Handcent, do you have the option turned on to split 160+ character messages?
Menu -> Settings -> Send message settings -> Split 160
By default I believe this is turned off, so you have to turn it on.
This is a known issue that occurs on any rom except for cdma based sense roms. The Aria port is from a gsm phone, the frameworks are different. The cdma hero roms have something in the background that auto splits messages, AOSP and GSM ports lack this built in functionality so you must use handcent or chomp and turn on splitting in the options.
So I wanted to see if it was a problem with the ROMS, so I installed the
[ROM] Sprint 2.27.651.6 STOCK and it worked fine.
Then I came back here and read your messages.
I didn't check for an option in handcent DOH!
And I figured it must of been a ROM problem and you confirmed it for me.
Thanks for all your help!!
I cannot seem to send sms messages when I install handcent on this phone. Mms work fine, and I can receive all day. Not sure why, has anyone else seen this?
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that's interesting cuz i was having similar issues as well.. not all the time, but just had that first occurence yesterday. Have you tried sending a message and waiting for the "spinning" timer disappear before exiting the convo?
I have used handcent since day one with the phone and have had no issues. Im not sure what may be wrong with yours but maybe wait until the circle stops spinning like ^^ said
ckochinsky125 said:
I have used handcent since day one with the phone and have had no issues. Im not sure what may be wrong with yours but maybe wait until the circle stops spinning like ^^ said
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Yeah, I have. It works fine on my gf fascinate, but not mine. Funny thing is, I've gone all the way back to stock and still won't work. Maybe a network profile thing.
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I have a similar problem except SMS works fine for me but I cannot receive MMS messages. I can send MMS fine though... I hope 2.2 will fix it.
Daswolven,
Aren't you the same person that posted that thread about removing junk apps? I think some of those VZWSMS apk's you deleted might be affecting your ability to text because I removed everything VZW.apk and had too many issues with texting such as receiving the same message 30x's, people receiving an error message saying I never received their message even though I did, etc... So I reflashed an ODIN file and only removed the obvious apps such as Bing, Blockbuster,etc. Phone has been perfect with handcent since then. The stock messaging app will not tell you which exact message failed to be sent which is why I went with handcent.
ithecho84 ,
Contact tech support and have the "flush" out your cell number. I had the same problem with my DROID and they did something to the switch in the network and I have never had an issue with MMS ever again.
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Daswolven,
Aren't you the same person that posted that thread about removing junk apps? I think some of those VZWSMS apk's you deleted might be affecting your ability to text because I removed everything VZW.apk and had too many issues with texting such as receiving the same message 30x's, people receiving an error message saying I never received their message even though I did, etc... So I reflashed an ODIN file and only removed the obvious apps such as Bing, Blockbuster,etc. Phone has been perfect with handcent since then. The stock messaging app will not tell you which exact message failed to be sent which is why I went with handcent.
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I am the same person.
I also know exactly what the apps I remove do.
None of the apps I removed affect sms to cause the issues I am having.
My g/f has the same phone. I have removed the same apps on hers, she doesn't have the issues.
I have a buddy with a droid incredible on CM6, he flashed a new radio and couldn't text his GF, but only her.
I have another friend with a Droid2 who cannot use handcent.
The handcent boards have posts from people on every network with various phone who have various issues.
I never had a problem with handcent on my N1.
So then, Mr. Logic boy. Put that together for me with the pieces I have given you.
let me know what you come up with.
P.S.: You may have missed the "I went back to stock and it still didn't work" part of This Thread.
Make sure the stock Mms.apk app is there, reboot and give it a try. I also saw a few days ago you moved the sns apps off - out of curiosity, do you know what these do? For some reason I left them in there. I know you said you went back to stock and all, but I had some issues when I tried to get rid of the stock Mms.apk. That's all I can think of. Outside of that, try doing a logcat while sending a text to see what the logs say.
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Make sure the stock Mms.apk app is there, reboot and give it a try. I also saw a few days ago you moved the sns apps off - out of curiosity, do you know what these do? For some reason I left them in there. I know you said you went back to stock and all, but I had some issues when I tried to get rid of the stock Mms.apk. That's all I can think of. Outside of that, try doing a logcat while sending a text to see what the logs say.
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The sns enable the syncing with the integrated Twitter, Facebook, and Myspace clients into your address book and the TouchWiz widgets. I have no use for these, as to me it's unnecessary contact clutter, and sync drain to boot.
The stock Mms app can be replaced, and has been, but I use the stock for the ability to select multiple recipients which is absent in the Android stock mms.
I haven't figured out all the differences between the Verizon and T-mo network stuff yet, but I will do some research as I have time, because I am 90% sure my problem lies there. The tech support I've been able to get through to seems uninterested in any kind of in depth troubleshooting, instead urging me to replace the handset, which I will not do.
I had same issue and I uninstall and put it back without using the back up data from a back up . Worked great .
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SMS Issues
If you look at your contacts and see an + in front Example (+1-555-555-5555) it will not send. Im coming from GSM service so I had to re-edit all my contacts and remove all the + symbol from the front. It worked for me. Hope this helps with any SMS issues not just directly to Handcent.
rolo12010 said:
If you look at your contacts and see an + in front Example (+1-555-555-5555) it will not send. Im coming from GSM service so I had to re-edit all my contacts and remove all the + symbol from the front. It worked for me. Hope this helps with any SMS issues not just directly to Handcent.
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OMG.
I hate when something that drives you completely crazy is this simple.
Why in the hell doesn't Verizon know this? ha. Thanx.
Daswolven said:
I cannot seem to send sms messages when I install handcent on this phone. Mms work fine, and I can receive all day. Not sure why, has anyone else seen this?
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I was wondering if you resolved your problem with Handcent? I have a problem now where if I try and attach a picture to a mms directly from the camera Handcent force closes. I tried the same thing with the stock MMS and same result. I went to Rom Manager and downloaded the MMS.apk for the ROM that I am running. I tried it again on Handcent, same result, but I was able to do it from the stock MMS I downloaded. I personally like all the options that Handcent has and would like to know if you have any suggestions regarding my problem.
Yeppers. Whatever the issue was stopped after I changed my methods of building from stock a bit.
Never managed to pin point it.
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I'm confused by the notes about the "+" in front of phone numbers? Why would you have a "+" like that, and what does that have to do with GSM? Furthermore, can you send a text to these numbers with the stock Messaging app, but NOT Handcent? Or does it work in neither? Thanks.
If you find a specific, reproduceable issue with Handcent though, especially if you know the cause, let me know if you want, because I've been working with one of the developers (or the developer, I'm not sure) - Jack, directly and frequently. I'm the one that cleaned up the Handcent forums to get rid of all the spam threads/users recently (if you've ever been there, you'll know how horrible it was prior), and helped him get it changed over to SMF from phpbb2, etc. I'm also a mod on the forums there, and I've been testing a few bugs directly with him, on beta builds of Handcent. So I can certainly bring something to his attention directly if it warrants it.
Hey guys!
Recently, I bought an HTC One and because I'm switching from a Nexus device, I installed as many stock Android apps as possible from the Play Store.
Including the stock SMS app, which seems to bring some problems:
1. Even after disabling notifications inside the Sense SMS app, it still has influence on the unread counter. My new android stock SMS app now always shows a "(1)" on its icon, even if there are no unread messages.After starting the sense stock messaging app once, the counter disappears ...but only till a new message comes in.
2. I often get a "message not sent" notification when using the android stock SMS app, but the message is being sent though. Some seconds later the message is marked as sent and everything is okay (Transmission report is active).
Do you have any ideas how to fix these issues? The easiest way would be to disable the sense messaging app, but I'd like to leave my bootloader locked for a while, so I'm looking for a solution without having root.
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Any ideas?
Hey guys i need some help. I've got a bootloader unlocked(30.B7) rooted, stock 4.4.4 Moto X and I'm having the hardest time trying to figure out why I cant send text messages but im somehow able to receive them. I can get sms and mms but cannot send. I've tried using different text message apps and none can send. I've tried factory resetting and that didn't help either. Anyone have a clue?
iforgot618 said:
figure out why I cant send text messages but im somehow able to receive them. I can get sms and mms but cannot send. I've tried using different text message apps and none can send. I've tried factory resetting and that didn't help either. Anyone have a clue?
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It's possible your message center (SMSC) number setting has been changed or reset somehow (maybe if you recently swapped sim cards or something). Try resetting it by following the guide in the link below (disregard the CyanogenMod branding, it's the same for stock ROM).
if you can't use *#*#4636#*#* then either make an activity shortcut to Phone Info or use one of the dedicated apps in the play store, like Radio Switcher (the apps don't do anything but open Phone Info menu).
link: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/SMSC_Updates
OK so i gave this a try and had no luck with the getting my carriers SMSC. I also found on one site that deleting my stock sms app may be the problem? sounds kinda lame since I've done that on other rooms but on other phones. Could that be it?
Yes, if you re-install the stock messaging app it will work.
I've tried different 'stock' sms apps form the play store with no luck still.
By 'stock' sms app I mean the system app 'Messenger" that came with the phone that you uninstalled. You will have to search around to find it since it is not in Play. Next time just disable a system app, do not uninstall it. That way if it breaks something you can re-enable it.
OK so I found the stock sms app and installed it, still a no go. I even tried converting it to a system app using Titanium backup. I've found that in that app and also Hangouts when I enter a thread the app FC's. I don't know what else it could be
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Did you set the stock SMS app to the correct permissions? Probably time to flash the system.