this coupon
http://reg.e.staples.com/c/s/tagfrm...d3Bnb0JBUmtBQUdwMFZ3d0FBQUU2&PID=552179&n=927
= $199 streak 7
is it worth buying, given the low resolution? how's the battery life?
Grabbed one after seeing the link at slickdeals, couldn't resist it for $200.
I was waiting to be able to grab a tablet of such quality and bran for a good price.
Not gonna lie, I"m incredible tempted.
However, some things are holding me back. Namely the sort of meh dev activity, the resolution, the lack of GB at least, and some other niggling things. Dunno though, 199 is amazing for a device of this quality.
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Not gonna lie, I"m incredible tempted.
However, some things are holding me back. Namely the sort of meh dev activity, the resolution, the lack of GB at least, and some other niggling things. Dunno though, 199 is amazing for a device of this quality.
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Unless you wanna wait another year or get some chinese chong ching ARM questionable quality, 30 day shipping and no warranty tablet, the DS7 at this price and of such power and quality is the best option in the market right now for under $400 because it'll do what any other tablet does.
Root it, get a clean ROM from DJ_steve, OC it and it'll be just as good as any other tablet in the market right now regardless of the size of the screen. This monster runs a dual core tegra 1GHz that can go as high as 1.4ghz(reaching Xoom/Iconia levels).
I happily jumped on this deal without doubting it. Waiting to get out of class and get back to my dorm to finally get to play with it.
Anyone find any teardown for this tablet ? I want to know how easy is to replace the battery ? How long do they last ? 2 years ?
I just picked one myself just now ... Any tips on what I should do next ? Honeycomb 3.2 ?
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Anyone find any teardown for this tablet ? I want to know how easy is to replace the battery ? How long do they last ? 2 years ?
I just picked one myself just now ... Any tips on what I should do next ? Honeycomb 3.2 ?
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Dell has said an official Honeycomb 3.2 is coming, unless i hear otherwise, i think i'm gonna stick with the stock for now and delete the stage UI widgets, which seem to slow down the tablet quite a bit.
we need to bring the community back to life now!!
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Unless you wanna wait another year or get some chinese chong ching ARM questionable quality, 30 day shipping and no warranty tablet, the DS7 at this price and of such power and quality is the best option in the market right now for under $400 because it'll do what any other tablet does.
Root it, get a clean ROM from DJ_steve, OC it and it'll be just as good as any other tablet in the market right now regardless of the size of the screen. This monster runs a dual core tegra 1GHz that can go as high as 1.4ghz(reaching Xoom/Iconia levels).
I happily jumped on this deal without doubting it. Waiting to get out of class and get back to my dorm to finally get to play with it.
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You know, I'm Chinese. I could be offended by your comment and say something equally offensive, but I'm just going to let you feel stupid. Then again, self-righteousness is a powerful thing.
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Dell has said an official Honeycomb 3.2 is coming, unless i hear otherwise, i think i'm gonna stick with the stock for now and delete the stage UI widgets, which seem to slow down the tablet quite a bit.
we need to bring the community back to life now!!
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Just install Zeam Launcher/ADW Launcher/Launcher Pro/etc. Stage UI will never even come into play; the device is vanilla FroYo with a custom launcher and a few added apks (like Swype).
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You know, I'm Chinese. I could be offended by your comment and say something equally offensive, but I'm just going to let you feel stupid. Then again, self-righteousness is a powerful thing.
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Lol, i knew someone was gonna say something about that. Then again, i am describing the quality of their tablets, not the people <3
My personal advice: get it! I love this thing, and I'm on FroYo (I might upgrade to DJ's HC 3.2, but we'll see).
There have been a lot of posts on this, but I know it can be a pain to wade through the forums so I'll summarise the good and bad for this device.
The Bad
Might as well get it out of the way.
First, the battery. It sucks. This is my main device (computer, phone, camera, etc.), which puts me in a pretty good position to rate this. It's livable if you're OK with frequent charging, but if you're going to go for long stints away from a power supply and with heavy use, this is a dealbreaker. If you're normally near an outlet, this is simply an inconvenience.
Next, the screen. It's definitely not up to snuff with the likes of the Nook Color or the Galaxy Tab series, but it's really not that bad. It has one viewing angle that's pretty poor ("down," in portrait mode), but it really isn't a bother. Long and the short of it: you won't notice if you don't have it next to a Galaxy Tab (even then; my wife has a GTab 7, and I like the contrast better on the Streak7 screen).
Next, in the inimitable words of Steve Balmer, DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS! I used to have the OG Droid, which was one of the most developed for devices on the planet. The Streak 7 is one of the least. This may or may not be an issue for you.
The Good
This is a bit broader of a category, and, of course, varies by model.
First, the T-Mo version has 4G. This is incredibly nice and puts it ahead of a lot of the other guys out there.
If you're on the WiFi version, you can disable the cellular stuff and greatly increase your battery life (I do mean greatly; cell standby is the number one battery drain on this device). This isn't exactly a "pro," but it does negate a con if you're going WiFi only. You must be rooted to do this, though.
The processor. Oh, the processor! Tegra 2 is a phenominal little SoC. Don't listen to the detractors (who rely mainly on crappy benchmarking software; there are no good benchmarks for mobile devices right now- not Quadrant, not Egypt, etc.). Think of it this way: the Snapdragon may not have been the "best" of the smartphone chips in the last run of single core phones, but it was the reference hardware. Thus, almost everything ran faster on it due to being optimised for it. The same goes for the Tegra 2, which can be found in the Streak 7, Moto XOOM, Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, ASUS Transformer, and on and on. All reference hardware from Google (basically, the XOOM and GTab 10.1) run Tegra 2. Everything I've seen works very smoothly and very quickly.
Cameras. It's got two. Don't expect stellar shots, but the quality is head and shoulders over the iPad2 and it also has a flash.
Gorilla Glass. Enough said.
Size, if it's what you're looking for. I prefer the 7" size because I take it everywhere with me. If that's not an issue for you, you might prefer the 10.1" models. Even without needing portability, though, I think I'd still opt for 7" (I know; that's what she said).
Full size SD card slot. This is great for reading camera memory, purchasing an extra card for media storage, or just saving cash on a second SDD for use as dedicated memory.
Vanilla Android. In it's stock form, the Streak 7 runs a skinless version of FroYo. It can't really be overstated how welcome this is for the type of people who crawl XDA.
Well, that's the long and the short of it. Is the Streak 7 right for you? Maybe. Depends on your usage. I got a Streak 7 for me and a Galaxy Tab 7 for the wife. We both wanted the 7" size, but she benefits more from the long battery life, nicer screen, and even TouchWiz (yes, there are people out there who find it useful). The Streak7 would drive her nuts, but the Galaxy Tab would drive me nuts. Different strokes, you know?
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Just install Zeam Launcher/ADW Launcher/Launcher Pro/etc. Stage UI will never even come into play; the device is vanilla FroYo with a custom launcher and a few added apks (like Swype).
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Z4nd4r said:
My personal advice: get it! I love this thing, and I'm on FroYo (I might upgrade to DJ's HC 3.2, but we'll see).
There have been a lot of posts on this, but I know it can be a pain to wade through the forums so I'll summarise the good and bad for this device.
The Bad
Might as well get it out of the way.
First, the battery. It sucks. This is my main device (computer, phone, camera, etc.), which puts me in a pretty good position to rate this. It's livable if you're OK with frequent charging, but if you're going to go for long stints away from a power supply and with heavy use, this is a dealbreaker. If you're normally near an outlet, this is simply an inconvenience.
Next, the screen. It's definitely not up to snuff with the likes of the Nook Color or the Galaxy Tab series, but it's really not that bad. It has one viewing angle that's pretty poor ("down," in portrait mode), but it really isn't a bother. Long and the short of it: you won't notice if you don't have it next to a Galaxy Tab (even then; my wife has a GTab 7, and I like the contrast better on the Streak7 screen).
Next, in the inimitable words of Steve Balmer, DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS! I used to have the OG Droid, which was one of the most developed for devices on the planet. The Streak 7 is one of the least. This may or may not be an issue for you.
The Good
This is a bit broader of a category, and, of course, varies by model.
First, the T-Mo version has 4G. This is incredibly nice and puts it ahead of a lot of the other guys out there.
If you're on the WiFi version, you can disable the cellular stuff and greatly increase your battery life (I do mean greatly; cell standby is the number one battery drain on this device). This isn't exactly a "pro," but it does negate a con if you're going WiFi only. You must be rooted to do this, though.
The processor. Oh, the processor! Tegra 2 is a phenominal little SoC. Don't listen to the detractors (who rely mainly on crappy benchmarking software; there are no good benchmarks for mobile devices right now- not Quadrant, not Egypt, etc.). Think of it this way: the Snapdragon may not have been the "best" of the smartphone chips in the last run of single core phones, but it was the reference hardware. Thus, almost everything ran faster on it due to being optimised for it. The same goes for the Tegra 2, which can be found in the Streak 7, Moto XOOM, Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, ASUS Transformer, and on and on. All reference hardware from Google (basically, the XOOM and GTab 10.1) run Tegra 2. Everything I've seen works very smoothly and very quickly.
Cameras. It's got two. Don't expect stellar shots, but the quality is head and shoulders over the iPad2 and it also has a flash.
Gorilla Glass. Enough said.
Size, if it's what you're looking for. I prefer the 7" size because I take it everywhere with me. If that's not an issue for you, you might prefer the 10.1" models. Even without needing portability, though, I think I'd still opt for 7" (I know; that's what she said).
Full size SD card slot. This is great for reading camera memory, purchasing an extra card for media storage, or just saving cash on a second SDD for use as dedicated memory.
Vanilla Android. In it's stock form, the Streak 7 runs a skinless version of FroYo. It can't really be overstated how welcome this is for the type of people who crawl XDA.
Well, that's the long and the short of it. Is the Streak 7 right for you? Maybe. Depends on your usage. I got a Streak 7 for me and a Galaxy Tab 7 for the wife. We both wanted the 7" size, but she benefits more from the long battery life, nicer screen, and even TouchWiz (yes, there are people out there who find it useful). The Streak7 would drive her nuts, but the Galaxy Tab would drive me nuts. Different strokes, you know?
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Hm... What are we talking about in terms of battery life here? As long as it's at least 8 hours, I don't think this should be an issue.
I may try it out. It's definitely a steal @ $199. If things don't turn out well, then I'll just return it or maybe re-sell it for profit once the promotion is over.
Thanks for the info!
EmilVee said:
Hm... What are we talking about in terms of battery life here? As long as it's at least 8 hours, I don't think this should be an issue.
I may try it out. It's definitely a steal @ $199. If things don't turn out well, then I'll just return it or maybe re-sell it for profit once the promotion is over.
Thanks for the info!
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That depends: are you going WiFi? How many hours of that is actual usage? I can get 15 hours of light use out of the 4G version; would easily be a full day out of the WiFi with phone.apk and telephony.apk disabled.
If you're talking full usage, I wouldn't expect much more than 4-5 solid hours from the WiFi version with the cell radios disabled (but WiFi on). Maybe a little more if you installed Honeycomb. Less for the 4G version; maybe 3+ hours of continued use.
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That depends: are you going WiFi? How many hours of that is actual usage? I can get 15 hours of light use out of the 4G version; would easily be a full day out of the WiFi with phone.apk and telephony.apk disabled.
If you're talking full usage, I wouldn't expect much more than 4-5 solid hours from the WiFi version with the cell radios disabled (but WiFi on). Maybe a little more if you installed Honeycomb. Less for the 4G version; maybe 3+ hours of continued use.
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Yes, I'm going wi-fi if I get this. When you say 'full usage', what do you mean? 4-5 hours is kinda... ****.
Also, can I safely assume that the Streak will never have CM7? I just read an earlier topic that sort of came to that conclusion.
EmilVee said:
Hm... What are we talking about in terms of battery life here? As long as it's at least 8 hours, I don't think this should be an issue.
I may try it out. It's definitely a steal @ $199. If things don't turn out well, then I'll just return it or maybe re-sell it for profit once the promotion is over.
Thanks for the info!
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I have the 4G version, but do not use the 4G. The most I get is around 3 hours with constant use over WiFi.
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Yes, I'm going wi-fi if I get this. When you say 'full usage', what do you mean? 4-5 hours is kinda... ****.
Also, can I safely assume that the Streak will never have CM7? I just read an earlier topic that sort of came to that conclusion.
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If you want battery life drop 500 on a different tablet. I could get through 3 hour long shows and then need to charge. Dell really should have made the battery replaceable.
Glad I just sold my 4g version for 250 before this happened (the deal)
Found myself not using the tablet much after getting a ThunderBolt. I'd much rather have a 10 inch empty shell that a phone slides into then a tablet at this point. Spent too much time trying to figure out where I was on my twitter timeline between devices. Same thing with games. They need a way to upload your save state so you can swap between devices.
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If you want battery life drop 500 on a different tablet. I could get through 3 hour long shows and then need to charge. Dell really should have made the battery replaceable.
Glad I just sold my 4g version for 250 before this happened (the deal)
Found myself not using the tablet much after getting a ThunderBolt. I'd much rather have a 10 inch empty shell that a phone slides into then a tablet at this point. Spent too much time trying to figure out where I was on my twitter timeline between devices. Same thing with games. They need a way to upload your save state so you can swap between devices.
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Hearing this, I think... I might just go with the Nook Color.
yup picked up dell streak 7 today using this coupon
awesome deal! - I picked up a dell streak - can't wait to put honeystreak on it! I'm returning my crappy two day old Coby Mid7016(with bootleg coby ginger**** with no flash support LOL)
Here is link for $100 off any tablet with exception of E readers and HP tablet, my co worker used the coupon for a Samsung Tab 10.1 16 gig for only $399 with coupon - Awesome!
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13845_3-20081008-58/get-an-acer-iconia-10-inch-android-tablet-for-$299.98/
dell streak 7
i recently bought my dell streak 7 after searching the prons and the cons on the internet.
some people complain about the battery time
and some others complain about the screen.
after playing with it for some time, i don't think that the screen is that bad. the colors are pretty good, the resolution though could have been better BUT i have heard that if you manage to change the "density" of the screen its like changing resolution. i haven't tried to change it yet but i will, when i find time to do it.
now about the battery. i only use wi-fi so i have "flight mode" enabled at all times and i switch on the wifi when i need it. i have also deleted the "Stage UI" and am using Launcher Pro Plus.
The standby time is very good, i lose a little less than 1% of battery/ per hour. i went to sleep at 1am (80% battery) and i woke up at 10:30am (73% battery). 7% of battery for 9 1/2 hours
The "use" time is a bit of a problem. i have wi-fi on and i play order and chaos online. The volume bar is set at half and i get around 4 hours of playtime for the tab to run out of battery. When i surf the web i can get up to 6 hours if i don't watch videos, since sound drains the battery faster. i haven't tried to mute all sounds and play games to see if it gets any better.
i have read on another post that when you flash honeycomb on the device you get better battery time on both standby and playtime.
So you can wait for the official HC update or you can even flash DJ_Steve's 3.2
I haven't played on another tablet except ipad but i thing that DS7 its worth the 200$. i paid 400euros (galaxy tab 7 costs 320euros) to buy it since i live in Europe
i hope that my post helped you clear some things on your mind.
alucardnos said:
i recently bought my dell streak 7 after searching the prons and the cons on the internet.
some people complain about the battery time
and some others complain about the screen.
after playing with it for some time, i don't think that the screen is that bad. the colors are pretty good, the resolution though could have been better BUT i have heard that if you manage to change the "density" of the screen its like changing resolution. i haven't tried to change it yet but i will, when i find time to do it.
now about the battery. i only use wi-fi so i have "flight mode" enabled at all times and i switch on the wifi when i need it. i have also deleted the "Stage UI" and am using Launcher Pro Plus.
The standby time is very good, i lose a little less than 1% of battery/ per hour. i went to sleep at 1am (80% battery) and i woke up at 10:30am (73% battery). 7% of battery for 9 1/2 hours
The "use" time is a bit of a problem. i have wi-fi on and i play order and chaos online. The volume bar is set at half and i get around 4 hours of playtime for the tab to run out of battery. When i surf the web i can get up to 6 hours if i don't watch videos, since sound drains the battery faster. i haven't tried to mute all sounds and play games to see if it gets any better.
i have read on another post that when you flash honeycomb on the device you get better battery time on both standby and playtime.
So you can wait for the official HC update or you can even flash DJ_Steve's 3.2
I haven't played on another tablet except ipad but i thing that DS7 its worth the 200$. i paid 400euros (galaxy tab 7 costs 320euros) to buy it since i live in Europe
i hope that my post helped you clear some things on your mind.
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That sounds about right for my 4G version. I stay in airplane mode and turn on WiFi when I turn on the tablet. I get around 3 hours, maybe 3:30, before I have to recharge. For stock use, the 4G modem is always activated, and there is no way to deactivate it without rooting the device, which I don't want to do.
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I read all the negative reviews on the Streak 7, but the price was something I just couldn't pass by. I went to my local T-mo store and checked it out and loved it.
Brought it home and honestly, I don't see what so many people are complaining about.
Screen: My husband and I sat side by side watching a youtube clip and both of us could see the screen perfectly. Neither of us has had a problem seeing the screen from different angles.
Battery: I turned off the data, background sync, use it wirelessly and I am really getting decent battery life. With a full charge the Streak was turned on at noon, used off and on lightly thru the afternoon. Left on stand-by the rest of the time until my husband got home from work around 7. He gave it a pretty good workout (it is actually supposed to be his - a Vday present!) with youtube, streaming music and web browsing. He was still using it around 11 p.m. and it still had over 25% battery life.
Camera: We took several pics with it last night and it does a decent job. As good as my HD2 phone.
The Streak is a snappy unit! Fast web browsing, fast opening of apps, etc. etc. It moved a lot faster then the Galaxy Tab at the store.
I have a rooted Nook Color for myself, but am happy with the Streak 7 purchase.
I hope people won't be put off by the bad press. I don't know anything about development, but think that there is a whole lot that could be done with the Streak!
Totally agree!
Hey, me too, it was to good to pass up....
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At first I didn't care for my Dell 7, but after I rooted it and change some settings I get a little better battery life. The screen isn't the greatest, but the size makes up for it, great for traveling.
Great data speeds her in Central California.
Can make calls using Sipdroid with my Google voice account.
Can't wait for Skype video.
Regarding battery life...anything that makes use of graphics system kills the battery fast. Full charge, played lets golf for 2 hours and down to 40%....30 minutes of tv show and down to 20%. Unacceptable...gonna return it tomorrow. Sad...i love it otherwise. Can this thing even make it through a full movie?
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Bandage said:
Regarding battery life...anything that makes use of graphics system kills the battery fast. Full charge, played lets golf for 2 hours and down to 40%....30 minutes of tv show and down to 20%. Unacceptable...gonna return it tomorrow. Sad...i love it otherwise. Can this thing even make it through a full movie?
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Sadly no it can't..I saw a review the other day where they tried to watch Avatar the movie & this device was dead before the movie even ended..I love mine but it's going back today..That battery life has put the nail in the coffin for this device..what were they thinking at Dell when they released this with such a weak battery..Guess i will be at bestbuy sunday for the pre-order sale on the Motorola Xoom.I hate going a full week without a tablet but this Streak 7 has got to go.
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Sadly no it can't..I saw a review the other day where they tried to watch Avatar the movie & this device was dead before the movie even ended..I love mine but it's going back today..That battery life has put the nail in the coffin for this device..what were they thinking at Dell when they released this with such a weak battery..Guess i will be at bestbuy sunday for the pre-order sale on the Motorola Xoom.I hate going a full week without a tablet but this Streak 7 has got to go.
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Hey. Before you guys decide to take your Streak 7 back, try rooting it with super one click root. It made a huge improvement in battery life. Hope it helps.
Heres the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939921
mine is already rooted and still very bad on battery, i can deal with the screen and usb charging but would rather them be better, so im returning my streak tomorrow. my streak was fully charged at 7 and already dying out at 9 and all i was doing was surfing the web and not even heavily, just on and off.
i would definitly be able to deal with it except for the fact that this year will bring many more dells which will probably be better and come with honeycomb. if the upcoming dells are not better than streak 7 ill go for the htc flyer.
i love this thing but i gotta return it before im locking in for 2 years
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Hey. Before you guys decide to take your Streak 7 back, try rooting it with super one click root. It made a huge improvement in battery life. Hope it helps.
Heres the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939921
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& here's the link to some tests done on the dell streak 7.Also the part where this thing died before a movie went off.....took mine back & going to bestbuy & get the Motorola Xoom.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2379219,00.asp
Not as bad as all that
I have recently (yesterday, in fact) gotten the S7 and of course wanted to run it through it's paces. I saw a similar issue for the battery life, having run it down within about 3.5 hours in the afternoon. To give some background, I am not a uber-online guy. I don't post to twitter or fb feeds with my tablet, and I use it mostly to stream media, email, etc. while at home OR reading while on my commute.
After full recharge (powered off, and it still took about two hours) I did the following:
1. Turned on Airplane Mode2. Applied the "Power Settings" widget to an open home screen3. Powered on the wifi radio
This effectively shut down the cell/data radio and the GPS radio. I was getting intermittent 4G/EDGE signal throughout the first run, and you could just watch the battery meter go down. With the cell radio off, I got about 5.5 hours of use from the Streak 7 before it hit 15% battery remaining.
One thing: I'd like to be able to shut off the cell radio in settings, but found no way to do this. Does anyone else know if you can just shut the radio off via settings as opposed to applying Airplane Mode and then turning on whatever radios you want to use?
I am now on my third discharge, and have all radios off at this time. I will give feedback when I have used the battery up, but in about 2.5 hours of constant use (reading ebooks), I have only brought the battery down to about 75%
So, I think these negative reactions are a bit over-done. I understand disappointment in not having a full (almost) 3 hour movie play all the way through. But the battery isn't as horrible as some may indicate. Then again, I am a DInc user, and I am used to quick battery depletion...
Additionally, I am in a bad service area for T-Mo, as I imagine many people are. If the cell radio keeps trying to reach a tower every thirty seconds, That would explain a quick battery drain.
And, for the price (on contract, or off) you can't beat this tablet - great build quality, responsive OS (pretty much a vanilla Froyo) and Gorilla Glass. Did I mention I broke my last tablet when I dropped it? Thanks for the Gorilla Glass!
Dinc user lol i feel your pain. I dont believe there is a way to toggle radios on/off other then airplane mode.
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The screen is absolutely terrible compared to the galaxy tab. Go to a tmobile and hold them side by side. Even the menu transitions are horribly stuttery compared to the smoothness of the galaxy tab. Holding the Streak 7 in landscape mode, the shifting of colors starts within just a couple degrees of vertical tilting (horizontal rotation when in portrait mode), which is very irritating to me. Battery capacity is a fraction of the tab's.
In spite of even the tegra 2 in the streak, its no wonder its cheaper than the older galaxy tab.
There definitely pluses for the streak 7, but the cons are very real. I have a free streak 7 and im already thinking of selling it.
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The screen is absolutely terrible compared to the galaxy tab. Go to a tmobile and hold them side by side. Even the menu transitions are horribly stuttery compared to the smoothness of the galaxy tab. Holding the Streak 7 in landscape mode, the shifting of colors starts within just a couple degrees of vertical tilting (horizontal rotation when in portrait mode), which is very irritating to me. Battery capacity is a fraction of the tab's.
In spite of even the tegra 2 in the streak, its no wonder its cheaper than the older galaxy tab.
There definitely pluses for the streak 7, but the cons are very real. I have a free streak 7 and im already thinking of selling it.
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Price please?
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Chris123234 said:
The screen is absolutely terrible compared to the galaxy tab. Go to a tmobile and hold them side by side. Even the menu transitions are horribly stuttery compared to the smoothness of the galaxy tab. Holding the Streak 7 in landscape mode, the shifting of colors starts within just a couple degrees of vertical tilting (horizontal rotation when in portrait mode), which is very irritating to me. Battery capacity is a fraction of the tab's.
In spite of even the tegra 2 in the streak, its no wonder its cheaper than the older galaxy tab.
There definitely pluses for the streak 7, but the cons are very real. I have a free streak 7 and im already thinking of selling it.
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The screen difference is barely noticable but the Galaxy is MANY MANY times slower... no comparison there... just use them side by side.
Yep the galaxy tab only has better graphics than the streak 7..as far as performance goes..the streak 7 runs all over the galaxy tab.
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So, I think these negative reactions are a bit over-done. I understand disappointment in not having a full (almost) 3 hour movie play all the way through. But the battery isn't as horrible as some may indicate. Then again, I am a DInc user, and I am used to quick battery depletion...
Additionally, I am in a bad service area for T-Mo, as I imagine many people are. If the cell radio keeps trying to reach a tower every thirty seconds, That would explain a quick battery drain.
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Not to argue with you here...but I'm kind of a gadget whore, and currently own several devices (GTab / 2x Vibrants / Archos 70it / TMobile Galaxy Tab / NookColor) and the puny battery Dell decided to use with the 7 is pathetic. Even the Viewsonic GTablet has a Tegra2, and gets amazing battery life in comparison!
I figured on the 7 being perfect for road trips, and hence an interest in its multimedia performance. 2780 mAh compared to 4000mAh in the Sammy Galaxy Tab. (milliampere-hour) What were they thinking? 1/2 the size of a device that they doubled in hardware specs! Just ludicrous
And comparing the two...Yes the 7 blows away the Galaxy Tab in most areas (based on CPU performance)...just kinda retarded that it can only do so in 3 hour increments. (Gaming on the Sammy lasted hours...I had a Let's Golf 2 binge, 4 hours and Battery was @ 65% when finished)
Anywho...not trying to dissuade anyone here...simply put, they rushed a product to the shelves to make a quick buck before the 3.0 tabs started selling.
I have noticed you have a large collection of devices! I have a Archos 101 that I bought for my wife, and I agree that the battery life is better on most tablets. Heck, the A101 is almost all battery.
But for about $100 less than my S7, the performance is atrocious. So much so that I don't let my wife watch how smoothly the S7 operates. So, in the end, I think we are talking apples and oranges. The S7 has fantastic performance, from a company I trust. The Sammy has a bigger battery and a nice LCD, but from a company I do not trust, as far as Android development goes.
And, since I am not spending three hours gaming at a time, I can afford to shut off unnecessary battery hogs and I get hours of use from my S7. Anyway. I think I have beaten that dead horse long enough. Enjoy your Xoom!
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I love my Dell S7 but battery is bad, but I didn't buy it to game, I bought it to surf, txt and email, I am mainly in a 4g 4 bars area, and when I am at work and home I go wifi with airport off, I also rooted it and added performance tweaks, I can get about 6-7 hours.
Honeycomb will make the battery better.
Use Juice defender, task killer and power manager software and you should be good, as for the viewing angles, I kind of like it, because no one can see what your doing (great privacy).
Calling is great with Sipdroid and Google voice.
I use slingbox and the picture is fine.
Thanks
Lou.
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Honeycomb will make the battery better.
Lou.
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Uh...how ya figure? Small battery is a small battery. If anything, HC will only drain it faster with more animations, etc.
This device might have been a more compelling offering if it shipped with at least 2.3 on it. That might have been a logistical impossibility though? I hope Dell skips 2.3 in favor of 3.0.
Hello
I just destoyed my hd2 leo by mistake so i am looking for a new phone or 7 inch tab , so is the streak 7 a good device or not that good .
i need an honest answer please?
Thanks
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Hello
I just destoyed my hd2 leo by mistake so i am looking for a new phone or 7 inch tab , so is the streak 7 a good device or not that good .
i need an honest answer please?
Thanks
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It really depends on what you're looking for. I love mine, but my wife would hate it (that's why we got her a Galaxy Tab).
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It really depends on what you're looking for. I love mine, but my wife would hate it (that's why we got her a Galaxy Tab).
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there is a review about the screen > they say the screen is not that good ,it has a bad display resolution not even close to galaxy tab .
i don't care about android OS 2.3 rooted is OK with me >
I really, really like mine, love the 7" size, the weak battery is the only concern I have with it. If you are getting it as a commuter tablet to watch video etc... on the way to work, probably not a good option (battery). If you want a good email, surf, e-reader, some video, apps type device it is great. I can usually last the day with moderate usage,3/4G enabled, on a single charge.
If there was a similar 7" HC cabable tablet with better battery, I would probably go with that if I was to do it again.
The screen is fine, if you really need hd movies on small screen, go for it, but for general movie watching, email, pictures, surfing, I doubt you would even notice/care.
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The screen is fine, if you really need hd movies on small screen, go for it, but for general movie watching, email, pictures, surfing, I doubt you would even notice/care.
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what to expect from the battery 12 hr or less
It has a 2750mAh battery, I can squeeze 5 hours on AT&T 3G. 6 hours on WiFi w/ airplane mode. This is all w/ intermittent use. Watching a streaming movie will drop the battery down to a little over 3 hours.
In comparison, the Tab has a 4000 mAh battery. So make sure you have your charger. I like mine, it does what I need. For the price, its great at everything. Just hope someone comes out w/ a pen app to write w/ like the flyer.
I was just about to ask this question as well. The Streak is rather inexpensive compared to the Galaxy Tab and especially the G Slate, and offers performance that should be on par with the G Slate. However, I understand that the battery is rather poor, which is really my only major gripe. Has anyone had a Galaxy Tab and noticed any speed differences?
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I was just about to ask this question as well. The Streak is rather inexpensive compared to the Galaxy Tab and especially the G Slate, and offers performance that should be on par with the G Slate. However, I understand that the battery is rather poor, which is really my only major gripe. Has anyone had a Galaxy Tab and noticed any speed differences?
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The battery is not poor, nor does the battery have anything to do with the tablet speed - I have had both and can say that the Streak is a much better deal. The Galaxy is stuck with Samsung's pathetic attempt at an interface called TouchWiz - it's full of bloatware and not terribly responsive. Nor is Samsung very reliable at updates - frankly their software sucks.
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I was just about to ask this question as well. The Streak is rather inexpensive compared to the Galaxy Tab and especially the G Slate, and offers performance that should be on par with the G Slate. However, I understand that the battery is rather poor, which is really my only major gripe. Has anyone had a Galaxy Tab and noticed any speed differences?
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I own both the Galaxy Tab and the Streak 7, so I can comment on this with a little authority (as can docfreed). Let's take the issues one at a time:
Screen-
Admittedly, the Streak 7's screen isn't the best. The Galaxy Tab's is pretty awesome (at least as good as the iPad's, in my experience). That said, the Streak 7's screen is actually not that bad. I find that, aside from one issue, there is no difference in real world usage between the S7's screen and the Tab's. Unless you have them side by side, you wouldn't know the difference (other than the one issue I'll get to). In fact, I actually prefer the contrast ratio of the S7's screen to that of the Tab.
The one issue the Streak 7's screen has is viewing angles; well, one viewing angle. If you have the S7 held in landscape mode, the angle that would be "down" is pretty poor. This can affect "left" in portrait mode, too. I find the only time it's annoying is if the S7 is flat on a desk in front of you, but this can easily be managed by either flipping it upside down (where there is a nice viewing angle; the screen will auto rotate) or by using the media dock (if you get a Streak 7, get the media dock; it's really nice).
Performance-
Between the Streak 7 and the Galaxy Tab, there's absolutely no comparison. Streak 7 creams the Tab in everything imaginable. I don't care what the Quadrant scores are (that benchmark is really dated and not very useful); the Streak 7 positively blows the Galaxy Tab away.
Battery Life-
No contest. The Galaxy Tab wins, hands down. The Streak 7's battery is less than 3/4 the size of the Tab's, plus I think there's a problem with the performance optimisation (I'll be posting a thread on it here, soon). I personally use the S7 for my main device; that's for all computing (other than work), internet browsing, phone calls, media consumption, gaming, photos; you name it. I don't find the battery life to be an issue, but I do end up charging a lot. My wife can go all day and into the next with her Galaxy Tab on a single charge.
Internet Connexion-
This one's a toss up, in my area. T-Mobile 4G is way faster than Verizon 3G, with about the same coverage, but Verizon's connexion is more reliable. Your mileage may vary depending on where you live.
Interface-
The Streak 7 runs vanilla Android FroYo with a custom launcher (Dell Stage UI). Add any launcher (LauncherPro, ADW Launcher, Zeam, etc.), and you're on stock Android. The back end is all stock. I personally run Zeam in a 6x6 grid and find it perfect.
However, this will not appeal to all. There's a reason I got my wife a Galaxy Tab and not a Streak 7, and battery life/screen wasn't all of it. TouchWiz, as much as we Android faithful hate on it, is actually pretty nice for the average consumer. The little touches like the coloured menus and the text pointer (which Android fixes in Gingerbread/Honeycomb, but are still bo-bo on FroYo) are a real boon to many users. If you want an easy experience over upgrades and raw speed, TouchWiz is actually pretty nice.
So, which would I recommend? If you're on XDA, the Streak 7 is probably your winer. It's faster in every way, and will stay relevant in the coming months. If you'd rather all day use and a seamless experience (or if you're really into ROMs and themes, which are in short supply on the S7 but plentiful n the Tab), go with the Galaxy Tab.
Only you will know which choice is right for your needs, but I hope I helped shed some light a little on what those choices really entail.
+1 as above and...
you can optimize battery life (if you are rooted) by basically renaming the phone and telephony.provider apk's (I posted how I did this here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102279
This stops "cell standby" and , I think, stops the software from continually trying to find a mobile data connection.
Anyway, it gave me an extra hour+ of battery life in my own simple testing.
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you can optimize battery life (if you are rooted) by basically renaming the phone and telephony.provider apk's (I posted how I did this here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102279
This stops "cell standby" and , I think, stops the software from continually trying to find a mobile data connection.
Anyway, it gave me an extra hour+ of battery life in my own simple testing.
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But this will kill mobile data, right? Cell Standby is atrocious on this thing. My wife's Galaxy Tab will always have screen as the number one battery consumer, followed by an app or two (usually the Browser). On the Streak 7, it's always Cell standby at number one.
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I own both the Galaxy Tab and the Streak 7, so I can comment on this with a little authority (as can docfreed). Let's take the issues one at a time:
Screen-
Admittedly, the Streak 7's screen isn't the best. The Galaxy Tab's is pretty awesome (at least as good as the iPad's, in my experience). That said, the Streak 7's screen is actually not that bad. I find that, aside from one issue, there is no difference in real world usage between the S7's screen and the Tab's. Unless you have them side by side, you wouldn't know the difference (other than the one issue I'll get to). In fact, I actually prefer the contrast ratio of the S7's screen to that of the Tab.
The one issue the Streak 7's screen has is viewing angles; well, one viewing angle. If you have the S7 held in landscape mode, the angle that would be "down" is pretty poor. This can affect "left" in portrait mode, too. I find the only time it's annoying is if the S7 is flat on a desk in front of you, but this can easily be managed by either flipping it upside down (where there is a nice viewing angle; the screen will auto rotate) or by using the media dock (if you get a Streak 7, get the media dock; it's really nice).
Performance-
Between the Streak 7 and the Galaxy Tab, there's absolutely no comparison. Streak 7 creams the Tab in everything imaginable. I don't care what the Quadrant scores are (that benchmark is really dated and not very useful); the Streak 7 positively blows the Galaxy Tab away.
Battery Life-
No contest. The Galaxy Tab wins, hands down. The Streak 7's battery is less than 3/4 the size of the Tab's, plus I think there's a problem with the performance optimisation (I'll be posting a thread on it here, soon). I personally use the S7 for my main device; that's for all computing (other than work), internet browsing, phone calls, media consumption, gaming, photos; you name it. I don't find the battery life to be an issue, but I do end up charging a lot. My wife can go all day and into the next with her Galaxy Tab on a single charge.
Interface-
The Streak 7 runs vanilla Android FroYo with a custom launcher (Dell Stage UI). Add any launcher (LauncherPro, ADW Launcher, Zeam, etc.), and you're on stock Android. The back end is all stock. I personally run Zeam in a 6x6 grid and find it perfect.
However, this will not appeal to all. There's a reason I got my wife a Galaxy Tab and not a Streak 7, and battery life/screen wasn't all of it. TouchWiz, as much as we Android faithful hate on it, is actually pretty nice for the average consumer. The little touches like the coloured menus and the text pointer (which Android fixes in Gingerbread/Honeycomb, but are still bo-bo on FroYo) are a real boon to many users. If you want an easy experience over upgrades and raw speed, TouchWiz is actually pretty nice.
So, which would I recommend? If you're on XDA, the Streak 7 is probably your winer. It's faster in every way, and will stay relevant in the coming months. If you'd rather all day use and a seamless experience (or if you're really into ROMs and themes, which are in short supply on the S7 but plentiful n the Tab), go with the Galaxy Tab.
Only you will know which choice is right for your needs, but I hope I helped shed some light a little on what those choices really entail.
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Thanks for all of you guys i made my purchase from eBay , S7 T Mobile 4g unlocked 16 gig $340 is that a good price for it .
and i do like a good ROMs like american droid from Cyanogen in my HD2 LEO , but not changing them every day like my brother .
i browse web to much with the HD2 also Gaming , i love android games more than my psp .
I do know the tigra 2 is power full cpu strongar than the Galaxy tab
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Thanks for all of you guys i made my purchase from eBay , S7 T Mobile 4g unlocked 16 gig $340 is that a good price for it .
and i do like a good ROMs like american droid from Cyanogen in my HD2 LEO , but not changing them every day like my brother .
i browse web to much with the HD2 also Gaming , i love android games more than my psp .
I do know the tigra 2 is power full cpu strongar than the Galaxy tab
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If you're using it for mobile internet and gaming, you made the right choice.
tv out
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If you're using it for mobile internet and gaming, you made the right choice.
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could i connect the S7 to a TV or any kind of monitors by HDMI or TV-out like the galaxy tab .
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could i connect the S7 to a TV or any kind of monitors by HDMI or TV-out like the galaxy tab .
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Yes. Get the multi-media dock and an HDMI cable. It also makes for a nice stand and lets you charge via AC while hooked up USB. Well worth the money.
Something like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-DELL-STREAK...ccessories&hash=item2310e424c4#ht_3404wt_1141
I got mine on eBay for about the same price.
i appreciate your help thanks
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Yes. Get the multi-media dock and an HDMI cable. It also makes for a nice stand and lets you charge via AC while hooked up USB. Well worth the money.
Something like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-DELL-STREAK...ccessories&hash=item2310e424c4#ht_3404wt_1141
I got mine on eBay for about the same price.
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Thanks i didn't know that . I'll git it and that leather case from folio , some screen protectors > car charge > silicon cover > 32 gig card or 64 gig if it available
and i'll look for a good rooted ROMs .
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Screen-
Admittedly, the Streak 7's screen isn't the best. The Galaxy Tab's is pretty awesome (at least as good as the iPad's, in my experience). That said, the Streak 7's screen is actually not that bad. I find that, aside from one issue, there is no difference in real world usage between the S7's screen and the Tab's. Unless you have them side by side, you wouldn't know the difference (other than the one issue I'll get to). In fact, I actually prefer the contrast ratio of the S7's screen to that of the Tab.
The one issue the Streak 7's screen has is viewing angles; well, one viewing angle. If you have the S7 held in landscape mode, the angle that would be "down" is pretty poor. This can affect "left" in portrait mode, too. I find the only time it's annoying is if the S7 is flat on a desk in front of you, but this can easily be managed by either flipping it upside down (where there is a nice viewing angle; the screen will auto rotate) or by using the media dock (if you get a Streak 7, get the media dock; it's really nice).
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One thing I actually like about the limited viewing angle is the privacy, if I am on the subway/bus, it is nice to know that it can be difficult for other people to read my screen. For most things it doesn't matter, but for some of my work email the more privacy the better.
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But this will kill mobile data, right? Cell Standby is atrocious on this thing. My wife's Galaxy Tab will always have screen as the number one battery consumer, followed by an app or two (usually the Browser). On the Streak 7, it's always Cell standby at number one.
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Yes, it does definitely kill cell standby - as a matter of fact, instead of the little airplane in the notification bar (I always leave mine in "airplane mode" - it's not a phone) I now get 4 bars and an x just like on a cellphone with the data off.
And, on the "what's using the battery" I now get "Tablet Idle" and "Display" as the main things using the battery - "Cell Standby" has disappeared!
Just wondering but does the plastic exterior on the front scratch easily? I am OCD to the extent that I notice almost every flaw on my electronic devices.
Hey, folks!
I'm facing to a hard dilemma. I can't consider, whether i schould pick an a100 piece from Acer or Dell.
I've read a ton of topics about dell on my favorite xda, so the shortcommings of this one are for me clear:
1. Display. For me that isn't a major shortcoming, cause i'm blind, i have a -4.5 diopters and 'm currently without glasses :sad:
2. Battery. At first, i wanna mention, that i want a non-3g version, cause AFIAK rumors are saying that it sucks the battery less. I know about "removing phone.apk, connectivity.apk and stuff like that" tweek, and anybody, who had tested this, mentioned that it doesn't give a drastic result ("4 times more"- the title of that toppic says :huh:, thats a little bit naive.)
I don't wanna my unit to last 2 hours with a simple WiFi browsing.
But, one user at well-known here russian forum 4pda (i'm from Moscow) told me a riddicously unbeliveable thing. He told me, that his WiFi-only unit lasts 2 days (!!!) without switching WiFi off, with 3 hours playing Samurai 2 and reading an Ebook. Is he F<>ing kidding me?!
As for Acer, this is kinda new piece, without any deacent information and any clear future situation with community. But the one drowback of this we know.
Again, this is a stupid lack of battery! Why?!
Another question: why the Acer's unit have TWICE as small battery as Dell's Streak 7 (1530 mah vs. ca. 2800) and lasts longer(8 hours of Web-browsing)?! Or the person on 4pda has done the apk's trick and he's right?
I don't realy know.
Please, folks help me. And i'm sure for many other people this information will be usefull.
Sorry for the maybe too strong emotions and for a little bit wrong spelling.
Thank you.
Let me share my experience with you. I have the wifi ds7 running Stockrom 2.2.2. The only thing I have the done is root it and remove the phone & telephony apk. I set my power setting to "aggressive" so that the data connection shuts down when the ds7 is in standby. I use my ds7 mainly for web browsing and I get 8-9 hours battery life. This is good enough for me because I charge it each night. I hope this help you.
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I use my ds7 mainly for web browsing and I get 8-9 hours battery life.
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You are usually browsing with WiFi, right? And how much time of thouse 8-9 hours do u browse?
So, another question, everybody knows, that Honeycomb has a eternal bar at the bottom. And Dell Streak has 800x480. Do the most games run properly on Honeystreak?
However, thank you, Otnos for your reply. But i want to hear any other oppinions, cause we all have a little bit different use conditions
The Acer A100 is a year newer than the streak 7, its motherboard, chipset, screen, wifi adapter, will all be slightly newer, more energy efficient than the streaks.
It also comes with honeycomb 3.2, so it wont be putting any of its energy trying to ping (looking for) a mobile network. Even the wifi only version of the streak 7 does this, being android 2.2 (a phone built OS), one of the benifits mentioned of honeycomb for the streak 7 in all the 'honeycomb coming for streak 7 articles' you might read. So you won't need to worry about the phone.apk and all that anyways. (With the wifi version airplane mode would of done it anyways!)
"Who brings out a wifi only gadget that try's to ping mobile phones networks, for any reason, then tries to pass off blame to the way the used the Android linux code"
I've been considering the move to an Acer for a while now. Theres about £50 difference in it here in the UK. These are portable touchscreens, seeing as they have the same function, the ONLY difference i see really is the screen and the battery. There is nothing else.
You say the screen resolution isn't that much to you. Not on numbers maybe, but this is nothing but a screen you touch, and will be doing for however long you use it. All have the same function, so really screen res and battery are the only difference. And trust me, you can tell, it may not sound a lot when looked at with numbers; 800×480 vs 1024x600. But that % difference on a small screen makes a huge difference.
As far as battery is concerned, the battery of the dell may have 40% more (mah) than the Acer. And I believe your friend. I can get almost 2 days out of my streak with airplane mode and the cpu underclocked with general wifi use. But despite the Acer's battery is smaller, most the components are a year newer and alot more energy efficient. So for a general use I believe they would be about the same, but the Acer's screen would look nicer the whole time. !!
At the same time, if you were deciding to play games or watch movies the whole time, the things that will push and pull from the cpu, gpu and tegra 2 chipset, you will get more time out of the streak 7 and its bigger battery. The tegra 2 setup draws as much power as it did a year ago when asked.
I've been a proud owner of the streak 7 for nearly a year now. And I cant say its a bad toy. Its a fun unit. But I don't see Dell in the tablet market. They have released 2 (or 3 if you count the streak 5). I see them now as a company who try and catch their PC and laptop market with the and cash in with the occasional tablet. And yet cannot do it aswell.
Acer, have made many and many, and are obviously putting a lot of resource all year into doing so. Android tablets and windows. They have been making tablets a lot longer than dell, and have made more, and will be doing so. Dell will use their PC/Laptop brand to sell one every now and then and cash in.
And I know when I come to upgrade a year or two from now, the Acer I have will be worth more, and I will spend that time looking at and touching a nicer touch screen!!! That can do the same. Maybe with a little less battery life when im pushing with games. And there's a guaranteed fact I will get more software upgrades and support.
"Who brings out a wifi only gadget that try's to ping a mobile phone network, for any reason, then tries to pass off blame to the OS they choose to use, and even after a year of potential update's still havn't sorted it"
Thank you for such great and helpful post, medseven.
No problem. As you can guess i've been thinking about the same lately.
Or should i pick the Playbook?
There is no useable Android java maschine on it currently, but it defenitlly have one in the future.
And how about portability?
Just wanted to add some info. The battery is fairly decent in the streak, I was able to watch 3 2hr movies and still had juice to browse the web for a bit (left wifi on while the movies were playing). HoneyComb (3.2) can be easily flashed to the Streak 7, and its pretty stable (just look for honeystreak, it gets updated pretty darn frequently). As far as dell releasing it with 2.2.2 and not updating it, its actually not their fault. From what I understand either google or t-mobile will not allow them to release 3.2, can't get a straight answer from them. But, Dell has had working versions of 3.2 for it for MONTHS but are unable to release it.
The A100 looks like a great tablet, but its $100+ more than the Streak7 in the states (Streak7 can be had for $200-250 while the 16GB A100 is $350+). I would much rather have the nicer screen on the A100, but it's just not worth the price difference. Also, the Streak 7 doesn't have HDMI while the A100 has micro-HDMI out.
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Or should i pick the Playbook?
There is no useable Android java maschine on it currently, but it defenitlly have one in the future.
And how about portability?
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Dont buy anything right now wait fot black friday all theses tablets will beon fire sale or save your money for ipad 3 ultimate tablet...plus chicks will dig you lol
Ok so right now am looking for a phone to buy.
And had the droid x
And droid charge.
So my question is would anybody recommend the d3?
And how is the development for the d3 look in the future?
I heard about motorola unlocking the bootloader but when the day comes, will they only provide it with the new phones? Or would it be like an update?
Absolutely would recommend!
I wholeheartedly recommend the D3 - especially if you are looking for a physical keyboard.
Development is well under way and there are now at least 2 full working ROMs. I've tried both Steel Droid and Monster and both are great - i find monster to be faster and thats my preference.
When I first got the phone, I was pretty bummed that the locked bootloader had put a huge damper on development. Ever since root has been acheived, however, things have been much better and you could not pry my D3 from my cold dead hands.
I hear that Blur is much better than previous iterations, but I use launcher pro so I don't use blur at all.
heres a link to the ROM, Mods and Themes thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1289611
As much as I like my D3, I would not recommend it to anyone looking to get a new phone. unless you absolutely need a keyboard, I would wait for either the Droid Razr or Galaxy Nexus. Both will have better hardware and FAR better screens and will be LTE.
I got a D3 yesterday, after having the D1 the last two years. After about 20 hours using it, I love it. I really dig how fast it is, and the larger screen is nice too.
As soon as I got it home, I rooted it and ran the scripts to remove the VZW apps. I really don't see a need to flash a ROM since this D3 runs so smoothly already. I'd like to edit some PNG files here and there, and that will probably be about it for me. I remember the constant flashing of ROM's, SBF files, and themes on my D1. This time around, I'm really not looking forward to that. It feels to me like VZW and Motorola did a great job with the device as is once you skim off the bloatware.
Like SrulDog, I switched to LP immediately. I've been using LP since about the time it was released, so I am very comfortable with it. It runs great on the D3 too.
I say go for it. I don't know how it compares to the Droids you have owned, but I know it is much better than the D1.
-Mike
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As much as I like my D3, I would not recommend it to anyone looking to get a new phone. unless you absolutely need a keyboard, I would wait for either the Droid Razr or Galaxy Nexus. Both will have better hardware and FAR better screens and will be LTE.
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Sure the screen looks crap sometimes. But I'm standing in direct sunlight in 100 degree weather right now and I can see every detail on it. Try that on an AMOLED.
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I have had this phone for a couple weeks and I am enjoying it. I had an OG Droid that the screen crapped out on me so this was nice because it works! I am used to the hardware keyboard on a Blackberry Tour/Bold 9650 but that's personal preference. I am getting used to this one though and I can fly on it so I guess it's pretty good for a keyboard.
A couple things I have done are root, freeze a few apps like VCast and run Autokiller at Strict, and the phone is as smooth as butter now. It has the same hardware as the Bionic really so I mean it's as high end as you can get. If you want 4G then as mentioned you should wait, but I have been getting great 3G speeds and yes I have to wait for the Market apps to download a little but it's a lot faster than it has been in the past with my OG Droid.
Well 4g isent really a biggy for me.
More like.batterry life and great rom features really
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Sure the screen looks crap sometimes. But I'm standing in direct sunlight in 100 degree weather right now and I can see every detail on it. Try that on an AMOLED.
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Great responses here! This is why I love XDA! To answer the question…yes, I would definitely recommend getting a DVD for all the reasons given above. Dev work is going well, CM7 is on the way, and we MAY have an AOSP rom by the weekend (permissions to port pending). The physical keyboard is outstanding, and the screen is good. Even though colors are a bit washed out, being able to view the screen in direct sunlight, with no issues, is a massive bonus. If you don't need the keyboard, and can wait a little while, I would jump all over the Nexus Prime/ galaxy Nexus/ whatever they're calling that 4.65" piece of sexiness! Either way, you'll end up satisfied imo.
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The biggest bugger for me is the lack of RAM. Phone would have been a whole lot better if it had 1GB ram instead 512MB only. The screen is a letdown IMO, but indeed is great in the sun and also better on the battery.
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Aside from the occasional issues from being in Australia, I must say I recommend the Droid 3. It's excellent!
I still fail to see what the lack of ram is holding us back from. But I've already convinced pne person to buy this phone, and they text me damn near everyday to thank me.
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Two years ago the Milestone was an awesome terminal for its time.
Nice design, perfect size, one of the best display ever seen, incredibly good audio quality and decent CPU power.
The only drawbacks were the horrible battery life, the cheap keyboard and the crap camera.
The D3, although can't be considered a bad phone, is the shadow of what the MS1 was.
The performances (I mean the real ones, not the benchmarks) aren't on par with one years old phones, the crap camera and the poor battery life are still there, the keyboard is improved but is still built like a toy, while the phone grown more than the display, the display went from the best available to the worst ever seen, the signal sensitivity went from the top to the "below the average". The audio quality, while better than the HTC phones is not on par with the motorola ancestors.
As I already said, my Desire Z (aka G2) was a better phone in any area, excluding the audio level and the lack of the numeric ROW.
From my point of view was a boring phone, everything worked from the beginning, good battery life, great photos, super stable system, good keyboard, and fantastic tethering capabilities.
The display was also good, not as the one on the Milestone 1, but light years better than the Droid 3's one.
All in all I suggest to buy the D3 only if you can get a very good deal.
If you like a ready to go smartphone, a DZ/G2 is still a way better choice, especially considering its today average price.
gravenimage said:
I still fail to see what the lack of ram is holding us back from.
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i think people come from older phones and get hung up on the numbers when with a better processor and other amenities a 'low' RAM really isn't a factor and can actually make the phone faster with everything cached and saved to the system memory. I don't even check the RAM since i've never had an issue with slow or choppy speed.
Also i go a whole day with my phone and end with 30% battery at the end of the day. i use it heavy while im out, not as much when home from work but even then i come home with 50-40% battery. I'm not sure what you guys are doing to get poor battery life.
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I'm not sure what you guys are doing to get poor battery life.
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Usually just using it on modern networks.
The motorola basebands are usually poor (especially on the erly releases), and the power drain has a lot of variation depending on the generation and the make of the BTS/node-b, whatever.
Just for example when I got the milestone 1, with the initial firmware tha battery lasted less than six hour with a vodafone SIM, and almost a day with a three SIM.
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Usually just using it on modern networks.
The motorola basebands are usually poor (especially on the erly releases), and the power drain has a lot of variation depending on the generation and the make of the BTS/node-b, whatever.
Just for example when I got the milestone 1, with the initial firmware tha battery lasted less than six hour with a vodafone SIM, and almost a day with a three SIM.
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Idk I hear people on Verizon say the same thing and we get pretty good service just about everywhere. sure at my old job where I was tucked in the basement my phone would die quickly but I couldnt blame that on the phone or the software, like you said it's the radio trying to get signal. I think it more depends on the user and how they use the phone/what services they run.
I had installed Juice Defender originally because i thought it would increase battery life, but i turn my screen on and off so much that it actually drained more battery from turning data off and on all the time, so now i only use it to automatically enable wifi when i'm home and turn off data while i'm asleep. maybe something like that could help you out?
All in all I think the D3 is one of the best Android options out. Plus i'm petty and like the fact that not everyone around here has one since it didn't seem to get a bunch of publicity...people still ask me 'What phone is that???"
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I had installed Juice Defender originally because i thought it would increase battery life, but i turn my screen on and off so much that it actually drained more battery from turning data off and on all the time, so now i only use it to automatically enable wifi when i'm home and turn off data while i'm asleep. maybe something like that could help you out?
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When I bought the MS1 "wi sync plus" was the program that saved the ms1 form a jump out of the window.
Btw i never tried any wi sync+ clone, like juice defender.
I'm about to purchased D3 today. Too bad it's hard to find one here. Already ask the seller to check with the supplier if there is any. I only found Motorola Atrix at one single shop here.
This is definitely my choice right now. In my opinion, 512MB RAM is enough for a dual core 1 GHz dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 SoC processor. PowerVR SGX540 is just nice, too bad that it only support OpenGL 2.0 and not DirectX as in Playstation Vita with PowerVR SGX543.
QWERTY keyboard has improved a lot this time. It had HDMI Type-D, Physical Button for Camera & Sound Volume & Micro-USB. I really hope it will get ICS update when it release and capable of USB Host. Another thing is that Motorola had been bought by Google, I believe Motorola will have latest update every time new Android version released. I hope so
One thing that make me stay away from Samsung Galaxy S2 is that it had one single port Micro USB for everything(HDMI through MHL, USB data, USB Charging, USB Host)
If i use HDMI output, then I cannot use USB Host at the same time. I wonder if the USB Host adapter connected to USB Hub, can it handle and recognize multiple device such as keyboard, mouse,game controller,USB Pendrive etc?
Yeah, but the way I understand it, even the phones that have 1gb of RAM right now (Atrix, Bionic) dont really have 1gb because 512mb is locked to be used with Webtop. And so far as I have been able to find, no other phone has more than 512mb right now. Can anyone confirm?
This mattered to me because I have an Atrix right now on AT&T and I absolutely love the phone, but can't take the ****ty service everywhere anymore, have to switch to Verizon. I had basically three phones I was looking at in the Amazon penny sale, D3, Bionic and the new Samsung qwerty, Supernova or something. So, if the above is right, the D3 I'm getting is essentially the same phone as my Atrix now without Webtop (don't care) or 4g (not here for years, boucou wifi) but with a physical kb, which actually makes it way better. I actually really, really like Gingerblur, and if it's slow I dig Launcherpro, so I should be good, yeah?
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This. Coming from an Atrix getting HDMI mirroring will be a big deal to me; I didn't buy any docks and haven't rooted or reflashed other than official 2.3 update, so the only thing I ever get over HDMI is the media player interface. Which is cool, but I want something else.
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Eh!
I'm considering buying this phone (uh...tablet?) but there are somethings that kinda get me besides the price.
The first thing that I want to know from the owners of a SGNote, how long does the battery life last for you. I'm a heavy user on my smartphones (My Samsung Focus can't keep up.) and most of the times I'm no where near an outlet. Also, External batteries any good?
Second thing, Do most ROMs support the S-Pen? I was thinking of rooting it and putting ICS on the beast, but I'm scared that the S-Pen won't function correctly after.
Lastly, Heavy Duty Cases? I'm rough on my phones.
Hi there!!
Would not be able to answer all of your questions, however will pitch in for few.
Battery backup?
As you already know it basically depends on the usage of the phone, wifi/3g always on with bluetooth and other connections heavy screen on time 3d games will dry out the juice quicker,
My experience
Bluetooth on for 5 to 6 hrs 3g full day, good screen on time... Lasts me a day and a half!!
This is with franco kernel.
Hard case availability??
Right place to look at is the accessory thread for note... Loads of reviews for the cases and screenguards out there... And it seems otterbox will be comming out with a cover for note soon... Some petitions as well going out there!!
S pen support??
All the roms support s pen and as you want to install ics, lemme tell you that its even better on ics rom,. When i say better I mean more responsive! Soon in the official launch of the ics by samsung we are promised premium suite ie a bunch of applications developed by samsung keeping s pen in mind!!
In my opinion its a great device and you should definitely go for it!!
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S-pen is functional in the ICS ROM I'm using (Stunner). Samsung's apps don't work but there are plenty of apps that support the pen. Quill even supports the pressure sensitivity.
With heavy usage I get about 6 hours out of a battery. Normal usage, wouldn't know, it hasn't run out yet in that case. I would estimate 15 hours. The screen is a huge power hog
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The screen is a huge power hog
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That's odd. On my Note it's the applications consuming much more power than the screen, the screen is actually the least of my worries there. I do use automatic brightness, though, perhaps that's the thing.
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That's odd. On my Note it's the applications consuming much more power than the screen, the screen is actually the least of my worries there.
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I strongly second this.
WereCatf said:
That's odd. On my Note it's the applications consuming much more power than the screen, the screen is actually the least of my worries there. I do use automatic brightness, though, perhaps that's the thing.
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It's on top of my battery stats list with 41% of sucked power. That's with a lot of screen time though.
I think Note is a great deal for any one who wants a phone to be more than just a phone !!!!
Note is defintely one of the best phone made.
Battery last for very long, 10 hours of heavy usage with 3.5 hours screen time on.
Size? Definately not a problem, will be big at first, and u will get used to it very fast, because its amazing experince browsing, watching vids, playing games on the phone. other phones will look like a toy to u soon.
So far most of the rom maintain s pen functionality. There are so many rom to choose from, just look for the one with the s pen support.
Why would the dev create a rom for gnote that dont support s pen in the first place when the s pen is one of the best things on note.
Good luck mate.
wait.... and buy galaxy s III
no wait and buy the Galaxy S IV...no wait and get the Note 3
my SGN runs slightly more than 12hrs...
minimun running services, all black non live wallpaper and 0% screen brightness.
and i always have the usb cable with me just in case my SNG needs an urgent charge along the way in the office.
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no wait and buy the Galaxy S IV...no wait and get the Note 3
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I dont know about you my man. Im ready to sell it my note...to get SIII On the first day of realize
avetny said:
I dont know about you my man. Im ready to sell it my note...to get SIII On the first day of realize
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yeah its crossed my mind but im confident that a couple days later i would want my big ass screen back..
whatever the sgs3 has a lot will probably go into the next note so i may just wait till then.
I have been using the Note for four months now and it is easily the best device I have used over the years. Here's what I think you should consider.
You shouldn't buy the note:
1. If you have really small hands, I mean REALLY small!
2. You hate using your phone with both hands (you need to most of the time)
3. If you hate the weight (but frankly, its light for it's size)
Why you should buy the note:
1. Brilliant display
I have seen people complain about the Pentile Matrix but you can't spot any differences. The display is brilliant. If you notch up the brightness to full and play a 1080p video, you will know what I mean. The big size also means that the Note is a better. Reading is amazing on it, literally. You can zoom in and the text is still super clear. There are a lot more stuff to it too. You will see when you buy it.
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K353JnA5QKg&list=UUFYR86TpcLB6aEag-oofN6A&index=10&feature=plcp
2. Battery
The 2500 mAH battery is kickass. It last thourgh a full day of heavy use or two days of low to moderate use. If one 2500mAh battery aint enough, you can get more from eBay. I bought a three battery pack with an external charger for $14 and they are doing pretty well.
Listing link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-x-2500mAh...100845?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item256f009bed
It is a bit disappointing when you use your data plan a lot. But hey, you cannot have everything.
3. XDA Support
I have seen highly active forums before when I was using the HTC HD2 and the Desire HD. I must say that the Note devs and forums are brilliant. People like Chainfire, Chris X and eybee1970 are all coming up with new stuff. There are at least 5 stable ICS ROMs now. This is something you cannot get with any other phone.
4. Games
I have tried playing big and small games on the Note and they all look great. Fun games like Cut the Rope, Angry Birds etc are brilliant as usual and the bigger display just makes it better. HD games like Modern Combat 3, Shadowgun and Dead Space are in a league of their own. But somehow, I never really ended up playing big size games much.
5. GPS
Take my word. GPS is Amazing. I get locked on to 5m within a minute sometimes and the chip is so fast. It can be your ideal navigator.
GPS Demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arOYNNux_mg&list=UUFYR86TpcLB6aEag-oofN6A&index=7&feature=plcp
6. Connectivity
If you have been around the Note threads for a while now, you would have seen a guy named NZTechFreak post a connectivity demo of the Note. If the above features didn't seal it for you, that should. It describes how you can put the different connectivity features of the Note and make it function like other devices.
Here's the link to the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEb-DICYCgg&list=UUFYR86TpcLB6aEag-oofN6A&index=11&feature=plcp
For what I know, the Note is the best of the following:
1. A high-end Android phone with all features
2. A very good camera
3. A tablet like device that fits into your pocket and weighs reasonably less.
4. A gaming console wherein you can emulate all classic games, connect to a HDTV via MHL, use a bluetooth joystick and play.
5. A HD Media Play, wherein you use your USB OTG to connect to a 1TB HDD or a 2GB pendrive to see content on the go. You can switch with MHL and use with your TV.
6. A portable gaming console, which lets you play some of the best games out there on the go.
7. A great eBook Reader, that will easily last for several hours even if you continuously. The Super AMOLED makes the experience super cool.
8. A Internet device, using which you can view webpages the way they are meant to be.
9. Run Ubuntu on it and use it as a PC, with all features.
There are probably more cool stuff I can say, but you get the point
I hope I was convincing enough
Credit to NZTechFreak for making so many cool and useful videos about the Note
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yeah its crossed my mind but im confident that a couple days later i would want my big ass screen back..
whatever the sgs3 has a lot will probably go into the next note so i may just wait till then.
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True !! this is only 1 thing I will miss !