Hi, I am new here and also a complete NOOB to all of this. I found and am using the roto modem switch method. I like it, but like many of you wish there was no reboot involved. I honestly dont know know exactly what the modem even does. But I do know that TMO usa blocks voice calls on this device. I also know that TMO does not allow (data while roaming) on any of there mobile broadband devices. So I guess my question would be. Has, anybody looked past the voice block and looked into the roaming block? or are these 2 issues intertwined?
Only thousands have for more than six months. Welcome to the party that started last November.
rangercaptain said:
Only thousands have for more than six months. Welcome to the party that started last November.
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I figured so, but decided to ask anyway. Thkx for the reply
I'm still looking for solutions.
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I'm still looking for solutions.
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People offered up about $1k bounty for it but still no luck
Pardon me if this question sound stupid.
Is your carrier only provide sim card if you buy their phone or tab?
If you can buy free sim card, i think why not you buy unbranded tab also. Then use the free sim card to the tab. The tab should function right? Did TMO can detect if you do so? In my place, my carrier have no right to block my account for any tab or phone brand i use.
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Please remember this discussion is for a T-Mobile tab in the US. . .
I say that up front because some have claimed that their t-mobile tab has voice and 3g with only one modem in a few countries (Spain, Isreal, China).
I used a SimpleMobile sim in my t-mobile tab and had the same restriction (voice or data). But I want too surprised at this because SimpleMobile is using t-mobile service.
Other than SimpleMobile, there is no pay as you go plans that use t-mobile frquencies.
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Please remember this discussion is for a T-Mobile tab in the US. . .
I say that up front because some have claimed that their t-mobile tab has voice and 3g with only one modem in a few countries (Spain, Isreal, China).
I used a SimpleMobile sim in my t-mobile tab and had the same restriction (voice or data). But I want too surprised at this because SimpleMobile is using t-mobile service.
Other than SimpleMobile, there is no pay as you go plans that use t-mobile frquencies.
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Ohh,,i see. I feel sorry to TMO customer than. Luckly, my carrier in my country did not have the same rule as what TMO had did to your guys . I personally belive it have something to do with their business way, how TMO want to get profit from it or due to politic, or technology limitation etc (or maybe i'm wrong?)
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One more question. In the US, or TMO for billing part, when you make a call for sure they will billing you. How about the person that receive a call? Did they get billing also for call that they receive? I heard about this thing, but could not confirm either its true. In my country, for all carrier, only the person that make call getting billing.
Sorry, im not a traveller. Did not go out of my country. 1st time i go to Japan due to job matter was 4 years ago
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In the US, both sides pay for the call. Both sides use their allowed minutes.
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In the US, both sides pay for the call. Both sides use their allowed minutes.
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Thanks for the info, really appreciate it!!
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Hey there,
I want a tablet I can make and receive cell calls on (not with SKYPE).
It's seems this is possilble with the streak 7 from reading other posts.
But searching did not reveal any posts specific to my needs.
But nowhere on Dell's site does it specify this ability.
Also Dell's site says its for T-mobile.
I have At&T now and would like to stay with them (1.5 yrs left on contract).
Can one of you please confirm this is possible?
I believe I would at least have to unlock my SIM.
What other steps\software would I need.
Thanks in advance!
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The T-Mobile Streak 7 will also work with AT&T on 3G once unlocked. However, the modem's firmware does not support voice calling atm. So unless T-Mobile releases updated modem firmware that supports this function, it will not happen which is unfortunate. It's possible they will add this function with the honeycomb update, but that remains to be seen.
I've been searching for further information about this, but there is very little information out there. Probably due to the fact that the modem is a fairly new model (EM820U). Maybe someone with experience with baseband reversing can check it out?
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Hey there,
I want a tablet I can make and receive cell calls on (not with SKYPE).
It's seems this is possilble with the streak 7 from reading other posts.
But searching did not reveal any posts specific to my needs.
But nowhere on Dell's site does it specify this ability.
Also Dell's site says its for T-mobile.
I have At&T now and would like to stay with them (1.5 yrs left on contract).
Can one of you please confirm this is possible?
I believe I would at least have to unlock my SIM.
What other steps\software would I need.
Thanks in advance!
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You'll need Galaxy Tab for that, though keep in mind that you'll have to use either a wired headset or a speakerphone.
AnyMal said:
You'll need Galaxy Tab for that, though keep in mind that you'll have to use either a wired headset or a speakerphone.
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....or bluetooth headset.....BTW, my Euro model works perfect as a phone! No additional flashing was required!
Later............
What are you using for a SIM.
do you know if US AT&T SIM will allow calls.
I would pay the extra to have one device.
Thanks
download and install grooveip from android market; using google voice account you can now make and receive calls... Grooveip is 4 bucks, but worth it.
Verizon is killing me on my D2 so I was wondering if I flash my tmo gt7 with Hermes and purchased a tmo pay to use sim, would I be able to make calls and data from my tab?
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You cant use your Verizon on Tmo, ypu can however tether from the other device to your galaxy tab.
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Verizon is killing me on my D2 so I was wondering if I flash my tmo gt7 with Hermes and purchased a tmo pay to use sim, would I be able to make calls and data from my tab?
Thanks
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The pay as you go is for broadband (data) only. So with that sim card, 3g but no voice.
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You cant use your Verizon on Tmo, ypu can however tether from the other device to your galaxy tab.
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No I want to get away from Verizon, Just wondered if a tmo pay to go voice/sim and a flash of my tmo gt7 would make the tablet useful for both voice/data?
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Yes, you can do that. The voice pay as you go isn't too pricey, but the data part is really bad (expensive).
I tried SimpleMobile, and I was satisfied with the coverage. The unlimited voice and data was $70 pay as you go, and works everywhere t-mobile works.
You will have to do an extra step, installing the Rotohammer modem switch to have voice and data on a US t-mobile tab.
Sounds like what I am looking for. Will the SimplyMobile SIM roam like T-mobile does? We actually live in a " dead " T-mobile area. T-mobile has an agreement with the local GSM provider but not for Data on tablets. However, T-mobile voice/data phones works fine.
Thanks
SimpleMobile uses/rents t-mobile's bands/towers. So, same coverage area.
Thanks, I'll give it a shot.
Howdy folks,
Is there a way to make WiFi calls with the AT&T note 3?
DiscipleDOC said:
Howdy folks,
Is there a way to make WiFi calls with the AT&T note 3?
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That would be called Skype....
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That would be called Skype....
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There is another way as well. TMo allows for calls via WiFi, and I was just wondering whether or not it was just specific to TMo, or if it was something we could do through AT&T...
I know what you are talking about and no At&t does not provide this service like tmobile does. I forgot where I read it but the article stated that by offering WiFi calling, Tmobile is basically conceeding that their network is not the best and it has flaws in coverage. AT&T does not want to admit that flaw in their coverage. On the other hand I wish At&t had this option as seamless as Tmobile does for buildings that have spotty At&t coverage.
Edit: At&t is starting to offer this feature for some business phones, might only be iPhone. I believe it cost extra too, but not currently on the note 3.
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i think the only other way is to use apps like Viber or Line. But the other person has to have the app too which might not be a big deal to some but I use it all the time and love both apps.
Why not use Google voice? There is an app that will use wifi or cellular data to connect via your gv number.
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First lets start by saying THERE are NO HARDWARE DIFFERENCE'S Just the matter of your carrier accepting the device
*Disclaimer : This information may change in the future and I'm not aware of any other CDMA carrier that does this in the UNITED States besides Sprint (If you do post and let us know). Most of the world is on GSM anyway right so this doesn't even matter to you
The Google Play Version allows you to go to Sprint and T-mobile
The T-Mobile Version or Carrier version will only work on other GSM Carriers while the Google play version allows you to go CDMA and GSM
Both of the Carrier and Google versions sold have the same internals and same everything else its just the matter of your carrier accepting it
If you're going to be using it for GSM only the carrier version is fine, however if you would like to use Sprint one day you would need the Google Play one or buy one from Sprint Themselves
Overall From Carrier and or Google Play Hardware/Software is the same its just the matter of your carrier accepting it :good:
Another Difference is that Carrier purchased Nexus 5 GOOGLE WILL NOT RMA only LG can with their Limited 1 year warranty
THE RMA Process is Only available from Google If the device was purchased from them
So for best warranty service try to purchase from Google Play
So Mark...? How do I know this is true and not one of your BUll***** threads again?
Simple Try going to ting and or any BYOD Sprint MVNO or Sprint themselves in order for them to activate it the ESN/IEMI must be in their system the google play ordered device will show however the Carrier purchased one Example T-Mobile wont show
It may sound stupid as all Nexus 5's should be unlocked and can be used anywhere. As it should be but it isn't
This is an Error on Sprint's End. This was similar to the iPhone 4s being GSM unlocked however carriers such as Sprint/Verizon Locked it
I'm not quite sure what this thread is about.
CDMA carriers have to have your ESN in their database for the phone to work on their network. They have all the Google play ESN's and all their own carrier ESN but they don't have other carriers' ESN so you have to ask them to add it. Is that what this is about?
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I'm not quite sure what this thread is about.
CDMA carriers have to have your ESN in their database for the phone to work on their network. They have all the Google play ESN's and all their own carrier ESN but they don't have other carriers' ESN so you have to ask them to add it. Is that what this is about?
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Yep, you can go Sprint to T-Mobile but you cant go to T-Mobile to Sprint
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Yep, you can go Sprint to T-Mobile but you cant go to T-Mobile to Sprint
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Do they refuse to add the ESN when you call them up?
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I'm not quite sure what this thread is about.
CDMA carriers have to have your ESN in their database for the phone to work on their network. They have all the Google play ESN's and all their own carrier ESN but they don't have other carriers' ESN so you have to ask them to add it. Is that what this is about?
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I am confused as well.
Sprint seems pretty horrific with dealing in ESN's anyways. 6 support calls and a friend of mine could still not activate my old e4gt. They knew it wasn't blacklisted for stolen or funds due. They knew the exact date the phone was last activated but it wasn't until I told him to tell them the old number that they are like oh that hasn't been released from the line (which no longer exists). You would think you would get a clear and concise message trying to activate a device that is attached to another account not cryptic errors people are asking if they have ever seen before. One support staff actually asked him "are you sure its a sprint phone".
We already know AT&T doesn't exactly deal as well with the N5 as we would like to.
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We already know AT&T doesn't exactly deal as well with the N5 as we would like to.
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Really?
I bought the play store edition, popped in my sim card and that was it...
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Really?
I bought the play store edition, popped in my sim card and that was it...
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Thats the best way to do it too. You already had service right? Possibly previously owned an LTE device? But its been encountered many a time they won't provision the account with LTE if the device ESN isn't in the system. But if you have an AT&T device available to activate on its no big deal. Already have service even better. Not an issue for say ST Byod or something.
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I am confused as well.
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Here is what I understand
Google version=bought from google play
T-Mobile version=bought from tmobile
Hardware wise, they are exactly the same.
However, sprint only has the ESN of the Google version (and their sprint version)
When op tries to activate the tmobile version on sprint, sprint (or ting) was unable to verify the ESN and refused.
Gsm providers are fine because you just pop the Sim in and it'll work (baring other stuff like imei blocking or att not allowing your Sim card to access LTE but allow 3g)
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Here is what I understand
Google version=bought from google play
T-Mobile version=bought from tmobile
Hardware wise, they are exactly the same.
However, sprint only has the ESN of the Google version (and their sprint version)
When op tries to activate the tmobile version on sprint, sprint (or ting) was unable to verify the ESN and refused.
Gsm providers are fine because you just pop the Sim in and it'll work (baring other stuff like imei blocking or att not allowing your Sim card to access LTE but allow 3g)
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But couldn't you just obtain that, give to sprint, they enter it, and then call it did?
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But couldn't you just obtain that, give to sprint, they enter it, and then call it did?
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But what if Sprint's policy is only to allow a whitelisted phone on the network?
Otherwise, you could call them up with a Verizon ESN and get to use a Verizon phone on sprint?
//why I'll never touch CDMA even with a 20 foot pole
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But what if Sprint's policy is only to allow a whitelisted phone on the network?
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this is both vzw's and sprint's policy.
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this is both vzw's and sprint's policy.
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True, but sprint could be doing things differently with the nexus 5
I don't know, but from ops perspective, looks like this is happening.
Imeis (and probably ESN) have a specific structure. (Go Wikipedia imei. On mobile, can't link easily)
If google/sprint version have the same starting digits and are white listed, and T-Mobile has different digits, then yeah
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But couldn't you just obtain that, give to sprint, they enter it, and then call it did?
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I have seen posts that suggest this can be done
Most recently:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2672066
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Thats the best way to do it too. You already had service right? Possibly previously owned an LTE device? But its been encountered many a time they won't provision the account with LTE if the device ESN isn't in the system. But if you have an AT&T device available to activate on its no big deal. Already have service even better. Not an issue for say ST Byod or something.
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AT&T don't care what device you use. Call them and tell them you want to pay them money for LTE, give them the imei (they don't use esn) and they provision a sim card.
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All you have to do is call sprint and give them the esn and it will work on sprint.
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I ordered my N5 on 1st available day. Then went to local ATT store and set up my ATT Go account and SIM, without the phone, for free. When phone arrived, I just bought ATT Go pin from callingmart, pop in SIM and voilĂ , LTE.
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AT&T don't care what device you use. Call them and tell them you want to pay them money for LTE, give them the imei (they don't use esn) and they provision a sim card.
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Company policies often have little to do with the current behaviour of high level software that abstracts the process from low level tech support. I don't think it was even an issue until very recently as most international unlocked devices were not compatible with their LTE nor do travelers take contracts. There are a couple of tricks experienced support know and even better if you get a higher level support tech answering your call rather than having to elevate. Sometimes its an easy day some days its hard.
There are words to use with support that can help facilitate a solution but money is not one of them. Its their job to help you no matter a current customer or new and no matter how much or little your spending. Talking about money only produces eye rolling and it falls under the same care level as calling your credit card company and telling the random poor soul your cutting up the card. They don't care, though a bean counter somewhere will tell anyone who asks they do or they should. In reality a rep who only gets motivated by threats or talking about money is a prime candidate for retraining or dismissal.
If they haven't already adjusted for this they need to. With the amount of cross carrier compatible unlocked lte devices on the market they will have more customers on them than ever before. Any extra calls to get LTE provisioned is wasted money for them.
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Company policies often have little to do with the current behaviour of high level software that abstracts the process from low level tech support. I don't think it was even an issue until very recently as most international unlocked devices were not compatible with their LTE nor do travelers take contracts. There are a couple of tricks experienced support know and even better if you get a higher level support tech answering your call rather than having to elevate. Sometimes its an easy day some days its hard.
There are words to use with support that can help facilitate a solution but money is not one of them. Its their job to help you no matter a current customer or new and no matter how much or little your spending. Talking about money only produces eye rolling and it falls under the same care level as calling your credit card company and telling the random poor soul your cutting up the card. They don't care, though a bean counter somewhere will tell anyone who asks they do or they should. In reality a rep who only gets motivated by threats or talking about money is a prime candidate for retraining or dismissal.
If they haven't already adjusted for this they need to. With the amount of cross carrier compatible unlocked lte devices on the market they will have more customers on them than ever before. Any extra calls to get LTE provisioned is wasted money for them.
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Telling them you wanted to pay them money is a figure of speech, like 'hello, I would like phone service' I didn't mean literally call them and say "I want to pay you money for LTE"
Dude, chill out a little. I have been dealing with cell phone companies as an enterprise account for many years.
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Telling them you wanted to pay them money is a figure of speech, like 'hello, I would like phone service' I didn't mean literally call them and say "I want to pay you money for LTE"
Dude, chill out a little. I have been dealing with cell phone companies as an enterprise account for many years.
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Right but you might be surprised how many customers are serious and speak like that as if the service rep is part of this corporate entity. I guess you can tell a battered customer service veteran. I once had a guy tell me he was going to file a complaint on me for basically enforcing a policy that had been changed...
I'm a bit bummed actually. As much as I loved getting off sprint I was excited about the device support. So I'd hate to have any issues going back. However if I ever went AT&T it would probably be an mvno.
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I am sorry to start a new thread, but this is sort of an emergency.
My Lady Susan upgraded to an LG-G2 on Verizon a couple of months ago, and we were assured it was a World Phone. We called Verizon Tech Support, got transferred to the International Travel folks, requested it be unlocked if necessary for use in England and Scotland. They assured us over and over that this phone is not locked in any way and all she would have to do is obtain a sim from some provider like Three in London and put it in and set up the APN as necessary for the LG-G2 to just work over there.
They warned us to pull the Verizon sim out before turning it on in the UK or she might incur international roaming charges - tried to sell her some kind of plan to mitigate that possibility in the process, but admitted that it was unnecessary if she was careful to not have her Verizon sim installed while the phone was powered up in the UK.
She got over there this morning, found a Three store in London, and they told her her Verizon LG-G2 was LOCKED to Verizon-only and could not work with any other provider at all.
She is currently without data or even a UK cell number. Was Verizon wrong about the LG-G2 being possible to use in the UK, or was the guy at the Three store wrong ?
We are not concerned about LTE speeds, most of the area she is traveling through is 3G only at this point anyway. She needs data though, for Hangouts if nothing else.
If the LG-G2 is useless over there, maybe she can buy a pre-paid phone for the two weeks she is traveling. Any suggestions ?
I have told her to find another Three store, or an O2, or anybody that might have a clue, but I fear it was Verizon that was clueless when they told us it would "just work". I use only Nexus devices myself, and my Nexus5 would not have this problem !
To be clear, this is a stock Verizon LG-G2 with the recent LG stock KitKat firmware received and applied via OTA. Not even rooted.
Both Vodaphone and Three shops in London have told Susan today that her Verizon LG-G2 is carrier-locked by Verizon and cannot be used in the UK on either Three or Vodaphone. So, for the next two weeks she is on WiFi only. They both tried to sell her a phone and plan for about $100, so she would have something to use while traveling.
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Both Vodaphone and Three shops in London have told Susan today that her Verizon LG-G2 is carrier-locked by Verizon and cannot be used in the UK on either Three or Vodaphone. So, for the next two weeks she is on WiFi only. They both tried to sell her a phone and plan for about $100, so she would have something to use while traveling.
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Its not locked, they are incorrect... I don't know the UK market but couldn't she just get a prepaid SIM and set the APNs herself (Verizon global mode phones are notorious for not getting APNs from the SIM)?
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She could, if she could...
I told her she would need to set her APN up and change her network mode to GSM instead of CDMA/LTE, but she got That Look in her eyes, so I told her the nice people at the shoppe would be able to help her. And to get a prepaid for mostly data and call me over Hangouts.
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trent999 said:
She could, if she could...
I told her she would need to set her APN up and change her network mode to GSM instead of CDMA/LTE, but she got That Look in her eyes, so I told her the nice people at the shoppe would be able to help her. And to get a prepaid for mostly data and call me over Hangouts.
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Very odd. When I was in the UK a year ago, I used my 'carrier locked' Verizon S3 just by buying a sim from Tesco (major grocery retailer) and upping my balance when needed. Was fairly pain free. And that was when phones were more locked down, and all new phones claim to be global in that sense.
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I know, right !
I think she just got a couple of nincompoops at the shops she went to yesterday. Maybe she will have better luck today in Edinburgh.
There can't be anything that wrong with the LG-G2 that it won't work on a GSM sim in Europe. When we were in Italy last year we used both Wind and TIM Sims in Verizon World phones set to GSM mode, worked fine even for playing Ingress.
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Just a thank you update...in Edinburgh this morning she was able to find a competent shop clerk and now is busy hacking Ingress portals with cheap and functional sim data ! She kept trying based on your advice until she found someone not trying to sell her a prepaid phone.
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All Verizon LTE phones are SIM unlocked, it's part of their deal with the FCC.
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Just a thank you update...in Edinburgh this morning she was able to find a competent shop clerk and now is busy hacking Ingress portals with cheap and functional sim data ! She kept trying based on your advice until she found someone not trying to sell her a prepaid phone.
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Glad it worked out for you both!
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