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Hi, I am new here and also a complete NOOB to all of this. I found and am using the roto modem switch method. I like it, but like many of you wish there was no reboot involved. I honestly dont know know exactly what the modem even does. But I do know that TMO usa blocks voice calls on this device. I also know that TMO does not allow (data while roaming) on any of there mobile broadband devices. So I guess my question would be. Has, anybody looked past the voice block and looked into the roaming block? or are these 2 issues intertwined?
Only thousands have for more than six months. Welcome to the party that started last November.
rangercaptain said:
Only thousands have for more than six months. Welcome to the party that started last November.
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I figured so, but decided to ask anyway. Thkx for the reply
I'm still looking for solutions.
rangercaptain said:
I'm still looking for solutions.
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People offered up about $1k bounty for it but still no luck
Pardon me if this question sound stupid.
Is your carrier only provide sim card if you buy their phone or tab?
If you can buy free sim card, i think why not you buy unbranded tab also. Then use the free sim card to the tab. The tab should function right? Did TMO can detect if you do so? In my place, my carrier have no right to block my account for any tab or phone brand i use.
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Please remember this discussion is for a T-Mobile tab in the US. . .
I say that up front because some have claimed that their t-mobile tab has voice and 3g with only one modem in a few countries (Spain, Isreal, China).
I used a SimpleMobile sim in my t-mobile tab and had the same restriction (voice or data). But I want too surprised at this because SimpleMobile is using t-mobile service.
Other than SimpleMobile, there is no pay as you go plans that use t-mobile frquencies.
rangercaptain said:
Please remember this discussion is for a T-Mobile tab in the US. . .
I say that up front because some have claimed that their t-mobile tab has voice and 3g with only one modem in a few countries (Spain, Isreal, China).
I used a SimpleMobile sim in my t-mobile tab and had the same restriction (voice or data). But I want too surprised at this because SimpleMobile is using t-mobile service.
Other than SimpleMobile, there is no pay as you go plans that use t-mobile frquencies.
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Ohh,,i see. I feel sorry to TMO customer than. Luckly, my carrier in my country did not have the same rule as what TMO had did to your guys . I personally belive it have something to do with their business way, how TMO want to get profit from it or due to politic, or technology limitation etc (or maybe i'm wrong?)
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One more question. In the US, or TMO for billing part, when you make a call for sure they will billing you. How about the person that receive a call? Did they get billing also for call that they receive? I heard about this thing, but could not confirm either its true. In my country, for all carrier, only the person that make call getting billing.
Sorry, im not a traveller. Did not go out of my country. 1st time i go to Japan due to job matter was 4 years ago
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In the US, both sides pay for the call. Both sides use their allowed minutes.
rangercaptain said:
In the US, both sides pay for the call. Both sides use their allowed minutes.
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Thanks for the info, really appreciate it!!
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-Nexus-4-wont-support-T-Mobiles-Wi-Fi-calling_id36181
If any of you T-Mobile customers out there were planning on using Wi-Fi calling on the upcoming LG Nexus 4, the sad truth is that the device will not be supporting the feature.
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Guess there is always skype or other voip solutions...
It never worked right for me anyway since gb
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ap3604 said:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-Nexus-4-wont-support-T-Mobiles-Wi-Fi-calling_id36181
Guess there is always skype or other voip solutions...
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that's a (small) shame.. I was able to use Wifi Calling once when out of the country (cell radio turned off)... saved me a ton of $$ when I needed to make a few important phone calls.
oh wait.. let me over-react... OMG that's it I will NEVER buy this phone... just kidding.
If there was ever such a thing as a good carrier app, this would be it. Shame, but not unexpected.
Really wish tmobile would find a way to get it on the market so all tmobile phones could download/update it.
Sorry for my ignorance, but what setting up Google voice with your phone number? Is that possible? Just curious since I was looking forward to this feature too. (Never used wifi calling)
Not a surprise since Wi-Fi calling only works on GB ROMs, it doesn't works on ICS/JB ROMs.
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IvanTSI said:
Not a surprise since Wi-Fi calling only works on GB ROMs, it doesn't works on ICS/JB ROMs.
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not true.. works just fine on my Sensation4G.. Android 4.0.3 (ICS)
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not true.. works just fine on my Sensation4G.. Android 4.0.3 (ICS)
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It's working on ICS roms. I'm reasonably certain that as soon as Tmo releases a JB rom with this in it, we'll see it ported to other devices/roms. I'm definitely hoping we see one for this device at some point as well. Won't stop me from getting this phone, but I'm hoping eventually we get the goods.
this is a deal breaker for me, as i am frequently in large buildings without reception.
there is no way for anyone besides tmo to add wifi calling. custom roms will not fill this gap. google voice kind of by not with the carrier number.
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It's working on ICS roms. I'm reasonably certain that as soon as Tmo releases a JB rom with this in it, we'll see it ported to other devices/roms. I'm definitely hoping we see one for this device at some point as well. Won't stop me from getting this phone, but I'm hoping eventually we get the goods.
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Not entirely true. Its built into the SGS 3 T-Mobile JellyBean leaks but it is not a simple task at all to get into other ROMs like it was in GB... it is now built into settings with a bunch of libs and such. Not many devs look at it as something worth spending days on to figure it out and code it into a custom ROM. Unfortunately of course.
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never used wi fi calling anyways, so no big deal. nexus 4 ftw!
Crisisx1 said:
never used wi fi calling anyways, so no big deal. nexus 4 ftw!
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Same! It's great for those who need it, but I am not in that group.
It just means this device is going to be stock on T-mobile so likely they will get updates just as fast as the Play Store version (it may be the same firmware minus Google Wallet).
It is a shame... when I went to China I could still talk to people at home for free which was amazing. And it helps in large buildings.
This is still entirely possible, without using anything developed by T-Mobile. It's not ideal for everyone, but I will be posting a comprehensive guide one of these days. I've been promising people for months, and once mid-terms are over, I'll be able to deliver.
Well using a sip account over WiFi will accomplish the same thing
The way I see it, this is actually a good thing. If they were to support WiFi calling on the Nex4, then it would need to go through them to get updates. If we got them from Google, then WiFi calling would break, and **** storm of complaints would hit TMobile support lines. This sucks, but i havent used it in over a year and to me direct updates > WiFi calling.
Agreed that it's only a small shame.
I'm not the one for long phone chats, anyway.
Here is the solution:
1. Port # to Google Voice
2. Setup a voip.ms account with a DID, setup failovers for no answer to forward to TMo # after 3 rings, unreachable, forward to TMo # after 3 rings.
3. Install csipsimple and register SIP account/voip.ms
4. Install Google Voice app and select "Use GV to make all calls"
When making a call, it prompts if you want to use voip.ms or cellular (Tmo). Incoming calls get routed to Google Voice, route to voip.ms, if not answered after 3 rings/14 seconds it forwards to TMo #. I get my TMo prepaid card for $28.50 a month (callingmart.com), I have the $30/month TMo plan (Unlimited 4G, unlimited text and 100min). I use the 100min up first then resort to voip calling the rest of the month if needed. voip.ms DID is .99 cents per month, and each minute on voip.ms is 1cent per minute, compared to 10 cent per minute after 100min on TMo. So I basically pay $30 per month after tax and after voip.ms fee's, insane.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646755
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Here is the solution:
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Using SIP is not the same thing as WiFi calling. I think most people here know how to setup a VOIP account but T-mobile's version was fully integrated into their account/phone #.
T-Mobile just announced that everyphone they sell from here on will be wifi-calling capable.
From this I assume it will probably an apps, or something that is cooked into the ROM that can be easily ported? I think they are still selling the Nexus 5 too. So maybe we will be blessed with wifi calling soon. Any thought on this? Am I too optimistic?
I am a former G2 user, and I seriously miss wifi calling.
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T-Mobile just announced that everyphone they sell from here on will be wifi-calling capable.
From this I assume it will probably an apps, or something that is cooked into the ROM that can be easily ported? I think they are still selling the Nexus 5 too. So maybe we will be blessed with wifi calling soon. Any thought on this? Am I too optimistic?
I am a former G2 user, and I seriously miss wifi calling.
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its part of the framework, not just an app. but, install the new hangouts and new hangouts dialer, then make phonecalls via data(wifi if need be).
Had the same thoughts, my wife bought an N5 through Tmo when we switched. How does the N5 get VoLTE.
As it was mentioned above, will the new Hangouts essentially enable VoLTE. Interesting that the new APK is rolling out now same day as Tmo makes this announcement.
Or, will we have to want for Android L?
I called t-mobile about this and they confirmed the Nexus 5 was supported. They said to connect to my wifi network and I should see a new icon indicating calls are being routed over wifi. I tried this, and saw no new icon. They said to try restarting the phone and connect to wifi again. Tried this, and still no new icon. Not so sure the N5 will be supporting this feature after all. Hoping it will be. I like the new hangouts dialer, but it still uses my google voice number and not my phone number which is a pain for people whom I didnt give the google voice number to in advance.
i wish the would just open source the shiz already so that we can add it ourselves. In a perfect world i suppose.....
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I called t-mobile about this and they confirmed the Nexus 5 was supported. They said to connect to my wifi network and I should see a new icon indicating calls are being routed over wifi. I tried this, and saw no new icon. They said to try restarting the phone and connect to wifi again. Tried this, and still no new icon. Not so sure the N5 will be supporting this feature after all. Hoping it will be. I like the new hangouts dialer, but it still uses my google voice number and not my phone number which is a pain for people whom I didnt give the google voice number to in advance.
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n5 is not supported. problem about calling customer service is that they dont know much of whats going on. tmobile is not allowed to add any software to nexus devices, they ALL come free of carriers software.
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I called t-mobile about this and they confirmed the Nexus 5 was supported. They said to connect to my wifi network and I should see a new icon indicating calls are being routed over wifi.
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I read on the news that T Mobile phones are getting OTA today. The most favorable scenario thus will be an OTA for N5 with wifi-calling soon. The worst case.. oh well, with like 20 phones that has wifi-calling baked in, there must be a feasible way to scoop that baby out, right?
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Question is it possible to port your tmobile number to GV & it'll show up using your main number while making calls via hangout dialer instead of using a Gv number?
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Also, does anyone know if the new voip feature in hangouts will subtract from my minutes? i think i remember it doing so when i had the s4 and enabled wifi calling (though i do realize t-mos wifi calling and hangouts voip are 2 different things)
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Also, does anyone know if the new voip feature in hangouts will subtract from my minutes? i think i remember it doing so when i had the s4 and enabled wifi calling (though i do realize t-mos wifi calling and hangouts voip are 2 different things)
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No, it is not counted toward your minutes. It only uses up data.
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I read on the news that T Mobile phones are getting OTA today. The most favorable scenario thus will be an OTA for N5 with wifi-calling soon. The worst case.. oh well, with like 20 phones that has wifi-calling baked in, there must be a feasible way to scoop that baby out, right?
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no nexus 5 will ever get a tmo ota.
Maybe a software tweak could enable the feature.
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This could really help the 100 min voice prepaid $30/mo plan.
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I use gv phone (playstore). Works great. That is all.
So, no wifi calling for N5 (yet?). Ah well, freedom has a price, I guess.
Also, guys, I believe at this point people already know there are alternatives to wificalling. Do they work? Yes. Are they satisfactory for everyone? Doubt it. Edit: Even if they are, the more choices everyone has, the better it is.
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The N5 will probably never get wifi calling. Why? because our updates come straight from google, tmo doesnt touch them at all. Sorry to rain on your parade people, but it just isnt happening.
Though as a consolation i have gotten a hold of the voip update to hangouts, and it works like a charm. My 100 min a month plan has just became unlimited
ummm
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So, no wifi calling for N5 (yet?). Ah well, freedom has a price, I guess.
Also, guys, I believe at this point people already know there are alternatives to wificalling. Do they work? Yes. Are they satisfactory for everyone? Doubt it. Edit: Even if they are, the more choices everyone has, the better it is.
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**I use gv phone (playstore). Works great. That is all.
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n5 is not supported... tmobile is not allowed to add any software to nexus devices, they ALL come free of carriers software.
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Can’t they simply push this out over the Play store and limit it to the Nexus 5/supported phones?
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Can’t they simply push this out over the Play store and limit it to the Nexus 5/supported phones?
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again.. it is not just an app, there are framework changes as well. and an ota from google my nexus 5 will never get.
simms22 said:
again.. it is not just an app, there are framework changes as well. and an ota from google my nexus 5 will never get.
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Sad—they shouldn’t limit this to crippled phones. If the iPhone can do this, which gets updates from Apple, a Google Nexus should be able to do this as well.
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Sad—they shouldn’t limit this to crippled phones. If the iPhone can do this, which gets updates from Apple, a Google Nexus should be able to do this as well.
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nexus can do it, without issue. just need to use an app for it. and there are other apps available for it. and now you can do it using your gvoice number, providing you update your hangouts and install the hangouts dialer.
I am starting to get concerned about the lack of two radios in the VZW version that I ordered.
Why are you concerned?
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No simultaneous voice and data....trips in traffic where I am on the phone and Google can't re-route me around traffic since my one radio is tied up with voice. VoLTE sounds like drop call hell
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No simultaneous voice and data....trips in traffic where I am on the phone and Google can't re-route me around traffic since my one radio is tied up with voice. VoLTE sounds like drop call hell
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Simultaneous voice and data will be fixed with the update. This is going to be the case on every new Verizon device while they integrate VoLTE. Just going to have to deal with it in the meantime.
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FAQ on VZW website sounds like VoLTE will be dropped call hell
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FAQ on VZW website sounds like VoLTE will be dropped call hell
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This is a non issue until they eliminate CDMA. Worry about it in 2 years.
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roadratx said:
I am starting to get concerned about the lack of two radios in the VZW version that I ordered.
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Once you can get root it's trivial to add by editing your build.prop (at least it was for the international htc one m7), though I disabled it again because it requires much more energy
Every phone is going to deal with this in VzW, if thats your concern, change your company
No Internet connection during phone calls Nexus 6 Verizon, activate the phone without any problem when I call I can not browse the internet
Known. All new Verizon devices are this way until they get Advanced Calling 1.0
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No Internet connection during phone calls Nexus 6 Verizon, activate the phone without any problem when I call I can not browse the internet
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If Verizon doesn't get this for some reason, you'll most likely never be able to.
Verizon phones used to be able to do this, but with changes going on in the networks and different radios now days it is not yet possible on any modern smartphone that I know of until Verizon re-activates the ability.
Hopefully temporary because voice and data work great on my N4.
Im using a Nexus 6 on Verizon and i am able to go on the internet while on a phone call.
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Im using a Nexus 6 on Verizon and i am able to go on the internet while on a phone call.
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Are you sure you're not on WiFi? This does not work for me unless I am on WiFi and a call....
bill213 said:
Im using a Nexus 6 on Verizon and i am able to go on the internet while on a phone call.
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No you aren't. At least not off WiFi.
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No you aren't. At least not off WiFi.
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verizon has volte enabled in a very few markets. if his volte is enabled, then he can get voice and data over wifi at the same time. volte = voice over lte.
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verizon has volte enabled in a very few markets. if his volte is enabled, then he can get voice and data over wifi at the same time. volte = voice over lte.
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Right but only if he's using wifi (which you can do even without VoLTE). Even in VoLTE markets you can't get voice and data over the air at the same time until they give you the all mighty Advance Calling 1.0 update.
Has anyone added the feature through the Verizon website to see if it works at all? I now have the option of adding Advanced Calling 1.0 to my line with the Nexus 6 but all the other phones say not compatible (Moto X 2013 and iPhone 4)
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Are you sure you're not on WiFi? This does not work for me unless I am on WiFi and a call....
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i was wrong my phone was on wifi...sry
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Has anyone added the feature through the Verizon website to see if it works at all? I now have the option of adding Advanced Calling 1.0 to my line with the Nexus 6 but all the other phones say not compatible (Moto X 2013 and iPhone 4)
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Yeah I was surprised to see the option for "Advanced Calling" show up, considering the phone shows up as "NON-VZW" device. I tried adding the feature on Verizon's website but it doesn't do anything. You'd have to enable VoLTE on the phone as well, which AFAICT the N6 does not support yet.
I enabled Advanced Calling for my wife's iPhone 6 on Verizon and it worked as advertised -- you can do simultaneous voice and data even when not on wifi. I also had to enable the setting on her iPhone to get it to work (changed some LTE setting from "Data only" to "Voice and Data"). Note the iPhone 6 is listed on Verizon's site as a supported device:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/landingpages/advanced-calling-devices/
Presumably Verizon will add Nexus 6 to the list after they start selling the device. The big question is will Moto and Google purchased devices work as well, or only those purchased from Verizon?
I wonder what's the chance of getting the droid turbo image to run on the Nexus 6?
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I wonder what's the chance of getting the droid turbo image to run on the Nexus 6?
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Zero
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Ok...well I have a N3 waiting on my N6 and GPS is critical for my driving and travel. Many times I am on phone leaving airport and using my Note 3 to navigate while I talk.
If N6 can't do this I am dead! Google maps need data but if I get a call then I am in trouble.
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Ok...well I have a N3 waiting on my N6 and GPS is critical for my driving and travel. Many times I am on phone leaving airport and using my Note 3 to navigate while I talk.
If N6 can't do this I am dead! Google maps need data but if I get a call then I am in trouble.
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Actually you should be fine you will need you will need to start your navigation before you take the call but once you start the navigation if you stay to the prescribed route google maps does not need more data try it out start a navigation and turn off mobile data it should work just fine is long as you stay on the route that it tells you it won't be able to redirect.
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Right but only if he's using wifi (which you can do even without VoLTE). Even in VoLTE markets you can't get voice and data over the air at the same time until they give you the all mighty Advance Calling 1.0 update.
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VoLTE is the same as Avanced Calling 1.0... All markets have Advanced Calling.. Its the software upgrade on the device that is behind.. After the software is available it will allow the feature to be added.. VoLTE will be able to support both voice and data..
Moto X, Turbo and N6 are experiencing the same on the VZ Network
Had this feature on my Verizon G3 and I do miss it. Not a deal breaker by any means for me but still very cool option to have