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Here in the UK we have a nice little touchscreen unit called the joggler. We are currently in the early stages of hacking it on our forums. We have managed to get an early working port of Linux on it but, it seems made to run Android. We have made some progress, and seems to be running fluidly apart from a graphics glitch. As most people in here are Android wizards, I thought this would be the perfect place to ask.
(I have a nexus one running Modaco A21),
Not sure if i'm allowed to post the address
joggler dot info
and if not please remove and my apologies.
thanks
Any of you Guru's any idea. It basically duplicates the screen side by side with messed up colours.
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i fancy one of them jogglers but not sure.
For £50 with wifi its a bit of a bargain, hack it for a picture frame and your sorted!
Found a bit more:
"The O2 Joggler is a very nice bit of hardware. It has a beautiful hi-res touchscreen, 512mb of RAM, a dual core intel atom processor and 1gb of built memory. Not to mention WiFi, ethernet and USB connectivity."
http://hackthejoggler.blogspot.com/ ^^^
flyboy
Wow, I'd glanced at it but hadn't given it a second thought. Imagine Eclair on that thing, it would rock! Any idea of the screen res?
800x480
is the res
flyboy
50 euro on contract?
£50! I think thats just for the unit.
flyboy
flyboyovyick2k9 said:
£50! I think thats just for the unit.
flyboy
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yeah what is what i am asking can you get one for 50 euro out right. or is it 50 euro when you sign a contract?
No contract. Its a stand alone device.
Great Car PC I would think. It needs mains support constantly though which is why I haven't purchased one.
its looks cool
one of the guys (KeithOMS) has got Android x86 booting now but no wifi and fairly slow (as you can see).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7kqMypFVlc
Saying that, not bad for a piece of kit that costs £50
I would love to get Android on my Joggler.
This device was made for Android Gonna watch this space.
I think this thread should be for joggler hacking!
flyboy
what cpu is it based on? where are the hardware specs?
nvm i found that. intel atom.
is there a windows xp driver for the touch screen?
does it support charging over usb? is it compatible with north american ac power plugs?
also look at this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1ZV7aD2Wak&feature=youtu.be
The joggler really needs a battery internal!!
Then it would be ultimate mid!!!
For those about to hack. We salute you!:
Link for ubuntu on jog:
http://magician.gforums.de/wiki/index.php5?title=UNE_Installation
There's a few youtube vids as well:
Found another showing remote destop with win 7 using windows media centre:
flyboy
^^what there is no internal battery? it is not a portable device?
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^^what there is no internal battery? it is not a portable device?
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No it's meant for home, mind you sure that there is a way to power while on the move.
Is it something like an inch thick?
And a battery wont be that hard to make. I mean from other batterys, connecting them together.
flyboy
So, a few people on another forum i'm on were asking about what tablet they should buy, since i'm that place's go-to geek i posted this there, tell me what you think. Before you judge, these are mostly tech noobs, who recognize that androidis better than iPad. so this is really dumbed down
[size=20pt]Top 5 Tablets[/size]
by mtmerrick
If you're considering an android tablet, you very well may be pretty confused by all the options out there. just as with a windows PC (though less so at the moment) there are so many options an uninformed customer will very often overpay for an inferior product. Here are what I consider the top 5 tablets, and the pros and cons of each. These are not numbered by rank – every one of these is best in its own class.
1) [size=15pt]Archos 101 G9[/size] – best general purpose tablet, best for storage
The new version of the Archos 101 is a very nice tablet, despite some people's thoughts. It has a the best processor of all the tablets on this list, and a very unique feature – the option for a 8GB+250GB hybrid drive, for people who's needs exceed (or can't afford) a 64GB SSD, this is a great option. The Archos is also one of the cheaper tablets available that run Honeycomb, the version of android that gives the best tablet experience. It also has customized (and improved) music and video apps, and a hidden cover on the back that can be slid off to reveal a full sized USB port. Archos sells a USB dongle that can provide cellular internet to the tablet, that fits perfectly in the slot.
Cons? Archos' USB 3g stick only works in Europe, there's no rear camera, and the screen doesn’t have the best viewing angles. Also, the version with the 250GB hard drive is a little fat.
2) [size=15pt]Toshiba Thrive[/size] – best media tablet, best for existing PC infrastructure
The Toshiba thrive is a beast of a tablet. Its most notable features are its full sized USB, HDMI, and SD ports. The USB port can accept nearly anything you plug into it, even some printers, thanks to drivers loaded by Toshiba. You plug anything into this and it'll work, at least partially. Toshiba also included several extremely useful apps, including one of the best file managers I’ve ever seen. The screen is crisp, and the cameras are surprisingly good quality for a tablet. There are even some usb-to-ethernet adapters that i've heard have worked with the Thrive, making this a good tablet for businesses or people without wifi.
Cons? This thing's a brick. Its one of, if not the thickest and heaviest android tablet ever made, and it only has 5 hours of battery life. It also has a 1 inch+ bezel, making it taller and wider than any other tablet. If you skip the OS updates, you may encounter some software bugs.
3) [size=15pt]Samsung Galaxy 10.1[/size] – lightest tablet, best for 3g/4g
The Galaxy 10.1's best selling point, and the first thing you'll notice about it, is how thin it is – its less than 1/3 the thickness of the Toshiba Thrive, while still feeling sturdy. Its also the best -for some carriers only- tablet if you need cellular data access. The screen is beautiful, and samgsung has added a wonderful feature I wish the android OS would adopt – mini apps. You can launch a small pop up window of any of a selection of very helpful apps, such as a calculator, that only take up a small portion of the screen. You can also move them around.
Cons? There's really only one – there are no ports. There is only the headphone/microphone jack and Samsung’s dock connector. This means if you want a USB port, you have to buy an adapter from Samsung. HDMI? Adapter. SD? Adapter. Expandable storage? Forget it. This is a deal breaker for a lot of people.
4) [size=15pt]Sony Tablet S[/size] – most portable, best for gaming
The first thing many people think when they see the Tablet S is “what the heck is this thing?”, and for good reason. It has a bizarre folded-back-magizine shape. However, this is surprisingly ergonomic. Still, its a love it or hate it thing. Don't judge till you can get a hands on. The tablet is very light, and if it seems smaller than the other tablets, it is. The tablet has a 9.4 inch screen, but retains the same resolution of its 10.1 inch competitors, making for a great HD display. It also has full access to the PlayStation store, meaning you can play a huge amount of PS1/PS2/PSP games on it. If you're familiar with the Xperia Play, this is the same thing, just on a bigger screen. You can also wirelessly connect a PS3 controller if you desire. While shaving .6 inches of the screen may not seem like much, it makes it just smaller enough that it feels infinitely more portable than a 10.1 inch tablet.
Cons? The Sony brand name may scare some buyers off, as will the very atypical form factor. Since this is not a 10.1 inch screen, some rare apps may not show up in “tablet mode”. Its also a little bit pricey, being a Sony product. Also, the name sucks =P
5) [size=15pt]Asus Eee Pad Transformer[/size] – best battery
I contemplated making this a “top 4” list and leaving this one off. This tablet is very middle of the road. Standard in most every way, lacking in a couple others. It does have one of the best developing communities for a tablet, but its one major selling point is an accessory it has, that nothing else can match. It has a laptop dock, which, when clicked into place, makes the transformer into a netbook with a nineteen hour battery. 19 hours. Wow. Also, the Transformer Prime (its successor, feel free to laugh at the name)) is coming soon, so it is (or will be) on sale a lot of places very soon.
Cons? Nothing special about this tablet at all unless you hack it, doesn’t even have a USB port. If you don't need a 19 hour!!! battery, get one of the other four.
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Now, there are more tablets, including the Xoom 2 and the recently mentioned Transformer Prime, that will undoubtedly hold a great position on this list once they come out. There are also other tablets, such as the Acer a100, which if you find for a good price can give you a wonderful deal for your money. Don't take this list at the only tablets to get, think of these as the pack leaders. Compare any tablet you buy against these, see if it holds up. There's a pretty decent chance it won't.
[size=8pt](Note- This list only includes 10ish inch tablets. I will rank “half size” 7 inch tablets sepratly, as I consider them a completely different product.)[/size]
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yeah, i know the coding isn't compatible. i'l fix it tomorrow. I'm tired
7" tab recommendations. also comment on this please. good noob advice?
[size=20pt]Top 7” Tablets[/size]
by mtmerrick
7 inch tablets are an interesting breed of device. Smaller than what many call a “real” tablet, but bigger than a phone, 7 Inch tablets are not for everyone. They are almost always cheaper than 10 inch tablets, but &' is also the screen size of choice of worthless pieces of Chinese junk that happen to be running android. You have to know what you're buying, or you'll get taken advantage of. Here's my list (in no particular order) of the top 7” tablets, In my opinion.
1) [size=15pt]Acer a100[/size] – best general purpose tablet
The Acer a100 is one of my favorite 7” tab, and one of the most powerful on this list.. It has a great screen, GPS (fairly rare for a 7”) and runs 3.2 Honeycomb, which means your experience is going to be very good. Decent cameras, guaranteed updates. All around, one of the best out there.
2) [size=15pt]HTC Flyer[/size] – best stylus input
The HTC Flyer looks unlike any other android tablet because of HTC's sense UI. This means you'll have a much better tablet experience even though it only has Android 2.3 as the OS. For a separate purchase, you can have a stylus that enables many really nice features. Handwriting support si good, if you need a note taking tablet, go for this.
3) [size=15pt]Lenovo A1[/size] – best import
The lenovo A1 has yet to be released in the US, but that doesn’t mean you can't get it online. This tablet runs an almost raw version of 2.3, which means it feels more like a big cell phone, but it has all the good stuff, including GPS and front cameras. Not very powerful, but its cheap.
4) [size=15pt]Nook Color[/size] – best hack, cheapest US tablet
I know what you're thinking, Nook? That's an ereader!. And you're right. But with a simple hack, it becomes a wonderful little tablet. Hacking? No, not as hard as you think. Its as simple as loading a ZIP onto the SD card and rebooting, and boom, you have a great 2.3 tablet. The hack will be upgraded to 4.0 eventually, so this is a device that will last a long time. It not the most powerful, and it lacks cameras, but you have more customization options and control over this tab than any other tablet on my list.
5) [size=15pt]Archos 80 G9] – biggest, strongest
I know this is about 7” tablets, but I thought I’d throw this in anyways. The Archos 80 G9 is, as it sounds, an 8” tablet, a very rare thing by itself. This tablet runs 3.2 Honeycomb, and has all the amenities of the Acer a100, also including the option for a 250 gig hard drive, if you need a ton of storage space (eg, lots of movies). It also has really good music and movie apps.
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Of all of these, I’d recommend the acer and the archos first, if for nothing else than because of the fact they run 3.2; this makes all the difference in the world. But you can still get a great experience form any of these (and more) 7 inch tablets. Just make sure you know what you're buying. and check against 10" tablets, to make sure the screen size is right for you.
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Transformer's dock DOES have USB port.
yes, but not the transformer itself.
Since this is one of the most interesting topics, i just decided to make this thread cause we were going off topic on other threads with this.
So lets hear it...
1. What you think about project ara, and phone blocks
2. Does it have a future? Why/Why not?
3. Will it work in the real world? Why/Why not?
4. Comments?
Phone Blocks
Phonebloks would consist of a main board onto which bloks could be snapped on by the user like Legos. Each blok is responsible for a unique function of the phone, much as a desktop computer has a distinct sound card, graphics card, processor, monitor, and power supply.[5] As a result, instead of replacing the entire phone when it becomes obsolete or broken, one could simply replace the defective or performance-limiting part. If the consumer wanted a better camera, for example, he or she could swap their small generic camera blok for a larger zoom camera from a manufacturer such as Nikon or Canon instead of buying a phone with a better camera. In theory, this would lead to fewer people throwing away their phones and contributing to the ever-increasing problem of electronic waste. Smartphones based on the Phonebloks system would be sold part by part, as well as in starter sets. When assembled, the phone would have a screen covering the entirety of the front, volume bottons and headphone jacks along the outer edge, and bloks clicked into the back, forming a rectangular block shape overall.
Project Ara
Project Ara is an initiative by Motorola Mobility that aims to develop a free, open hardware platform for creating highly modular smartphones. The platform will include a structural frame that holds smartphone modules of the owner's choice, such as a display, keyboard or an extra battery. It would allow users to swap out malfunctioning modules or upgrade individual modules as innovations emerge, providing longer lifetime cycles for the handset, and potentially reducing electronic waste.
Potential issues with the modular concept include a tradeoff between volumetric efficiency and modularity, as the framework interface holding the device would increase overall size and weight. Additional issues include regulatory approval; the FCC tests single configurations for approval, not modular configurations
Works Cited
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Ara
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonebloks
russian392 said:
Since this is one of the most interesting topics, i just decided to make this thread cause we were going off topic on other threads with this.
So lets hear it...
1. What you think about project ara, and phone blocks
2. Does it have a future? Why/Why not?
3. Will it work in the real world? Why/Why not?
4. Comments?
Phone Blocks
Phonebloks would consist of a main board onto which bloks could be snapped on by the user like Legos. Each blok is responsible for a unique function of the phone, much as a desktop computer has a distinct sound card, graphics card, processor, monitor, and power supply.[5] As a result, instead of replacing the entire phone when it becomes obsolete or broken, one could simply replace the defective or performance-limiting part. If the consumer wanted a better camera, for example, he or she could swap their small generic camera blok for a larger zoom camera from a manufacturer such as Nikon or Canon instead of buying a phone with a better camera. In thally, this would lead to fewer people throwing away their phones and contributing to the ever-increasing problem of electronic waste. Smartphones based on the Phonebloks system would be sold part by part, as well as in starter sets. When assembled, the phone would have a screen covering the entirety of the front, volume bottons and headphone jacks along the outer edge, and bloks clicked into the back, forming a rectangular block shape overall.
Project Ara
Project Ara is an initiative by Motorola Mobility that aims to develop a free, open hardware platform for creating highly modular smartphones. The platform will include a structural frame that holds smartphone modules of the owner's choice, such as a display, keyboard or an extra battery. It would allow users to swap out malfunctioning modules or upgrade individual modules as innovations emerge, providing longer lifetime cycles for the handset, and potentially reducing electronic waste.
Potential issues with the modular concept include a tradeoff between volumetric efficiency and modularity, as the framework interface holding the device would increase overall size and weight. Additional issues include regulatory approval; the FCC tests single configurations for approval, not modular configurations
Works Cited
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Ara
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonebloks
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Developing will wither be crap, difficult or be little to none at all. So... Maybe some devs might not go for it d:
Although I thinks its a great idea that can and will most likely take off in the real world, basically an android OS powered handheld PC
abrahammmmmmm_ said:
Developing will wither be crap, difficult or be little to none at all. So... Maybe some devs might not go for it d:
Although I thinks its a great idea that can and will most likely take off in the real world, basically an android OS powered handheld PC
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Didn't think of a handheld PC. Maybe just a small portable desktop computer that you could just hook up to a monitor
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The bus over which devices communicate with one another evolves as well. So once the bus evolves all your blocks could be absolete, not to mention that a lot of device types currently favor a particular type of bus rather a universal one. So if you were to go with using all the different busses that the industry likes to use (i2c, i2s, spi, usb, etc) you would end up having to place them at every block interconnect which would make for a very inefficient design.
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r00tb33r said:
The bus over which devices communicate with one another evolves as well. So once the bus evolves all your blocks could be absolete, not to mention that a lot of device types currently favor a particular type of bus rather a universal one. So if you were to go with using all the different busses that the industry likes to use (i2c, i2s, spi, usb, etc) you would end up having to place them at every block interconnect which would make for a very inefficient design.
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could you go into more detail on that? dont quite understand what a bus is
russian392 said:
could you go into more detail on that? dont quite understand what a bus is
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_(computing)
In computer architecture, a bus (from the Latin omnibus, meaning 'for all') is a communication system that transfers data between components inside a computer, or between computers. This expression covers all related hardware components (wire, optical fiber, etc.) and software, including communication protocol.
Early computer buses were parallel electrical wires with multiple connections, but the term is now used for any physical arrangement that provides the same logical functionality as a parallel electrical bus. Modern computer buses can use both parallel and bit serial connections, and can be wired in either a multidrop (electrical parallel) or daisy chain topology, or connected by switched hubs, as in the case of USB.
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The idea would only work if phone blocks had enough interest and funding. That's why project Aura seems for feasible. It's funded by Google
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russian392 said:
The idea would only work if phone blocks had enough interest and funding. That's why project Aura seems for feasible. It's funded by Google
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Today is going to be the second day of project ara convention, for who is interested.
I don't like so much the ara style, i'd like to see PB instead, but we are far enough to realize in a short time.
Honestly i'm watching to porting desktop modularity in some way to mobile phone: you may buy 4 endo phones, 3 will do your desktop and one is used for a mobile device... when you are at home you can connect all 4 to get more power.
Ok this is just a dream ... just think about it: how can you or why can't you realise it ?
Thanks
After being touted as Samsung's flagship tablet in 2014, it's truly shocking to find out that not only this device came with an outdated SoC and a sub-par battery, but it doesn't even have USB 3.0 support. You gotta be joking Samsung. I have never seen such sleazy cost cutting before, where the manufacturer uses premium parts for the things you can see with your eyes but bargain basement parts bin for everything that goes inside. Moreover, yesterday I find out that Samsung's Lollipop update won't install through the regular update channel because I have made "unauthorized modifications" to my tablet (read rooting my device in order to correct the idiotic deficiencies, such as ridiculously low headphone volume gain). Geez.
They have taken away USB3 from devices after S5 due to a lack of popularity. None of the new flagships have it.
If you root and then do an update - they have no guarantee on what you did - so how can they give you an OTA when it might ruin it.
What the heck does the "lack of popularity" mean. USB 3 has been a standard for all new USB interfaces in PCs for what, for years now? They mean, the PCs people buy with USB 3 interfaces are not popular? Do people who just bought a PC in 2013 and 2014 wish to switch back to USB 2? That's just laughable. Lack of popularity? Lynxblaine, are you being paid by Samsung?
http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/03/samsung-galaxy-note-4-hands-on/
Well no one was using it, and it was unsightly. According to the review.
lynxblaine said:
http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/03/samsung-galaxy-note-4-hands-on/
Well no one was using it, and it was unsightly. According to the review.
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No other manufacturer has put it in a smartphone. Everyone has been waiting for USB C, which we'll probably see in smartphones later in the year. Maybe the next Nexus.
Don't appreciate some new member of XDA forums criticising me and asking if i am 'paid' by Samsung for offering some opinion on an issue they are facing.
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Don't appreciate some new member of XDA forums criticising me and asking if i am 'paid' by Samsung for offering some opinion on an issue they are facing.
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Sorry for offending you. Citing the lack of popularity as the reason for not including the USB3 support sounded like an apology by or for a manufacturer's cost cutting. Now that I see the linked article, the linked article said: "This year, the phone maker went back to USB 2.0; the product managers said that not many people were using the 3.0 port for data transfers, so they didn't see the point in taking up room inside the phone for that purpose. " which apparently contains an apologetic excuse from some Samsung people. This device can have quite a bit of internal storage as well as sd card, which should justify having a faster USB connector. Of course, I can just move the data by the SD card, but I consider it more hassle than plugging a USB wire.
Consider using something like Airdroid, wifi speeds are definitely catching up with usb2 speeds, i have wireless AC so can copy files to it quicker with WiFi.
This isn't a flagship device, why would it have the latest tech? Especially a tech that no one else was using. I can see USB 3.0 on the next Note 5 (and I wouldn't be disappointed if it doesn't have it), but on Tab S, a device that was released last year?
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This isn't a flagship device, why would it have the latest tech? Especially a tech that no one else was using. I can see USB 3.0 on the next Note 5 (and I wouldn't be disappointed if it doesn't have it), but on Tab S, a device that was released last year?
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It is not a flagship device. But supposed to be a flagship tablet for samsung
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It is not a flagship device.
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Isn't that your answer right there? The marketshare of tablets, especially just Samsung's tablets, is so miniscule when compared to their flagship devices that you shouldn't be surprised about Samsung's lack of new hardware on a devices from 2014.
USB had a buggy launch, inconsistent and confusing connectors that didn't map well in the mobile space, power issues, chip issues, and the broader billion dollar mobile market clearly didn't care that much about it, at least according to the millions poured in to overall market research on it each year...why *would* they include it? The few devices that did have it got slammed for it anyway for problems. Also who cares? No manufacturer is making these things with an eye towards how easy it is to get a lot of large files on them as quickly as possible using a cord hooked up to a PC, that was 5-7 years ago.
USB-C is where things are going, then there will be some movement. Seems silly to knock anyone, even Samsung (who have their share of decisions to be knocked about) over this.
It has the best display among tablets. That makes it flag ship.
Well after years of good use on the tf701 and not quite finding a good custom ROM I liked to keep it on life support, I replaced the tf701 with a Chuwi Hi12 and Hi12 aluminum keyboard dock. While there weren't many good android transformer options in the U.S., the Chinese markets have a lot of great deals on tablet/keyboard combos that dualboot win 10 and android. I just picked the HI12, but there's quite a few good options like Chuwi, teclast, or Cube.
So far it has been a great replacement. I just mention it because there maybe transformer fans like myself that find themselves without many good options to replace their android based keyboard/tablet setup. my tf701 has been my main road warrior goto for years. I use VDI when more advanced content creation or work needed to be done. The addition of a dualboot with win 10 as an option with the new setup has been pretty nice for when I can't get to VDI.
While I loved a lot of the tech you could get in China, I always had one big worry about Android devices: what sort of firmware upgrades could you expect? I also wanted Google software, and it was a lot of extra work to get it running.
How long have you had the Chuwi tablet?
I've had the Chuwi for a couple of weeks. it just came out this year and was backordered for a while. It dualboots android 5.1 and Windows 10. I get a menu when I turn it on and each OS has a power button that reboots to the other OS. On my particular model, people have already figured out how to replace the stock android it comes with and replace it with Remix OS(android Based OS) while still maintaining Dual boot. With the ability to Run Remix, and its Win 10 support, the tablet is a bit futureproofed for upgrades. This is an x86 based tablet. Also, even though my screen has a lower resolution than my tf701, it just looks better. Many of the components are straight out of the Surface pro 3. I paid $230 for the tablet and another $39 for the aluminum Keyboard dock off of gearbest. it's intel z8300 based and comes with 64gb SSD and 4gb of memory.
However, the brands I mentioned all have dualboot Android/win10 x86 transformer type models, so I'm not specifically recommending Chuwi or the Hi12. Just making people aware that the Chinese tablets are a pretty good quality alternative and are real possibilities for replacement of an aging transformer. In addition, Chuwi, teclast, and Core are starting to release dualboot models where you get your choice of a combo of Remix OS(android based) and win10, or a combo of stock Android and win10. Being X86 intel based tablet/keyboard combos, there's a lot of easier options to keep the tablet alive passed its shelf life without having to depend on the ROM communities.
I am glad I logged on tonight. I will look at these Chinese 2-in-1 systems to see if they meet my needs. I have no problem with Android yet, like Linux and still find the need for Windows to be around.
Wagz - please tell me more. Really, at this very moment I am nearly bleeding in pain for a nice tf700 or tf701...and the 700t's are plentiful on the used market. I just do not want to make an err in judgement. However, I want the performance of the Surface Pro as well as its robustness for durability. I am just concerned regarding the end point that is achieved with the tf700 and tf701. If these get to the point where they become a laptop replacement I must admit I am taken in by the idea. Can these really result in a 2-in-1 that is as much of a workhorse as an i5?
I also like the VAIO Tap 11 but, seem to only find owners that claim they do not know the processor they have so, I keep moving.
Here is an excerpt I posted on Tom's please let me know if I can achieve a laptop replacement with a Tegra. XDA has some clever members so, I would not be surprised to learn if this project has closed the gap substantially.
I have decided to purchase a 2-in-1 detachable or flip w/hinge. I do not feel new is necessary, just good. Here is my list of features I feel strongly about.
1. FHD - 1920 x 1080 minimum...higher not necessary.
2. Screen size - 10" + minimum to 13.3".
2. Connectivity - Not much we can do here. I will purchase a 5 GHz modem for the 2-in-1 if necessary. I prefer LAN/Ethernet if I can get it because, it's faster.
3. Expandable RAM/Storage. Limits can be fine yet, I do want to be able to expand RAM or HD as needed. USB ports may accomplish this for me via external drives yet, I have not seen an eSATA port.
4. Prefer to refrain from the Atom/Baytrail CPU as these have proven themselves for the entertainment functions such as streaming, 1080p playback, etc. I still want the device to handle CAD, compilers, etc.
5. Robust from the physical perspective...machined aluminum may be best or, somewhat bulky if made from inherently weaker materials.
6. Backlit keyboard...it would be nice yet, it is difficult to regard this as a necessity.
7. Full size keyboard if possible.
8. Potential for multi-boot OS configuration so that Linux or Windows 7(?) can be used when connected to dock.
9. No preference for manufacturer, just a sound system capable of lasting. If I could afford it I would be looking at the new Acer liquid cooled 2-in-1 systems!!!
This is all I can think of at the moment. Feel free to add to this as you see fit. There are way too many products in this category on the market for to review alone so, I thought I would post this here.
Thank you.
wagz said:
I've had the Chuwi for a couple of weeks. it just came out this year and was backordered for a while. It dualboots android 5.1 and Windows 10. I get a menu when I turn it on and each OS has a power button that reboots to the other OS. On my particular model, people have already figured out how to replace the stock android it comes with and replace it with Remix OS(android Based OS) while still maintaining Dual boot. With the ability to Run Remix, and its Win 10 support, the tablet is a bit futureproofed for upgrades. This is an x86 based tablet. Also, even though my screen has a lower resolution than my tf701, it just looks better. Many of the components are straight out of the Surface pro 3. I paid $230 for the tablet and another $39 for the aluminum Keyboard dock off of gearbest. it's intel z8300 based and comes with 64gb SSD and 4gb of memory.
However, the brands I mentioned all have dualboot Android/win10 x86 transformer type models, so I'm not specifically recommending Chuwi or the Hi12. Just making people aware that the Chinese tablets are a pretty good quality alternative and are real possibilities for replacement of an aging transformer. In addition, Chuwi, teclast, and Core are starting to release dualboot models where you get your choice of a combo of Remix OS(android based) and win10, or a combo of stock Android and win10. Being X86 intel based tablet/keyboard combos, there's a lot of easier options to keep the tablet alive passed its shelf life without having to depend on the ROM communities.
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