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Phone bogged down by touch input?

Ok.. So I searched a while, and I'm not sure if I was just using the wrong terms, but I couldn't get a result that answered my question.
Anywho.. I'm using Fresh Toast 2.0b2, and I'm having an odd problem when playing games that have touch input.
For example... Whilst playing the game "Radiant" The phone slows down considerably when I use the touch screen to move my ship.. I would say framerates cut almost in half.. but clear up as soon as I lift my thumb from the screen..
Same thing happens in the game "Blow Up" When I tap-hold the bottom of the screen to pick up the bombs to drag to the beams, the phone slows WAAAYY down, but clears up the moment I drop the bomb/lift my finger from the screen..
Could this be a ROM problem? Background App Problem? Just one of the quirks of the Hero?
Any input will be seen as valuable.
Thanks,
~jUgGsY~

jUgGsY said:
Ok.. So I searched a while, and I'm not sure if I was just using the wrong terms, but I couldn't get a result that answered my question.
Anywho.. I'm using Fresh Toast 2.0b2, and I'm having an odd problem when playing games that have touch input.
For example... Whilst playing the game "Radiant" The phone slows down considerably when I use the touch screen to move my ship.. I would say framerates cut almost in half.. but clear up as soon as I lift my thumb from the screen..
Same thing happens in the game "Blow Up" When I tap-hold the bottom of the screen to pick up the bombs to drag to the beams, the phone slows WAAAYY down, but clears up the moment I drop the bomb/lift my finger from the screen..
Could this be a ROM problem? Background App Problem? Just one of the quirks of the Hero?
Any input will be seen as valuable.
Thanks,
~jUgGsY~
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FreshToast is buggy right now - hence the DEV rom titleing.
I also have noticed general touch bugyness. Especially slow responses to touch.

Kcarpenter said:
FreshToast is buggy right now - hence the DEV rom titleing.
I also have noticed general touch bugyness. Especially slow responses to touch.
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So should it be considered an actual BUG for FT?

jUgGsY said:
Could this be a ROM problem? Background App Problem? Just one of the quirks of the Hero?
Any input will be seen as valuable.
Thanks,
~jUgGsY~
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Not a ROM problem, Not specific to your device. I feel like its a problem with HTC's multitouch drivers.. Ive noticed the same problem since I got the phone in October. I'm pretty certain when you touch the phone, the Hero is looking for another touch point so it delays the phone.. The HTC Hero doesn't use the same multitouch drivers as other 2.1 devices even on the 2.1 ROMs, Thats why most multitouch programs on the market dont work right for the Hero, and also why I'm jumping to EVO, Hopefully HTC EVO doesn't have the same problem.

mental26 said:
Not a ROM problem, Not specific to your device. I feel like its a problem with HTC's multitouch drivers.. Ive noticed the same problem since I got the phone in October. I'm pretty certain when you touch the phone, the Hero is looking for another touch point so it delays the phone.. The HTC Hero doesn't use the same multitouch drivers as other 2.1 devices even on the 2.1 ROMs, Thats why most multitouch programs on the market dont work right for the Hero, and also why I'm jumping to EVO, Hopefully HTC EVO doesn't have the same problem.
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That definitely makes sense. Wish I would've known about the EVO previous to my purchase of the Hero..

So I did 2 neocores. One without touching the screen got me 25 dos. Then I touched the screen thru the whole benchmark and got 4.9 dos. Wow that's a big difference!
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So I did 2 neocores. One without touching the screen got me 25 dos. Then I touched the screen thru the whole benchmark and got 4.9 dos. Wow that's a big difference!
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That should be seen as a deal breaking bug for the Hero.. We should all go to Sprint and DEMAND EVOs.
Unless its not present in the official 2.1, I'm going to do what I can to get an EVO.

yeh its really weird how it works right. .27 and touch input didnt play well. at all. the biggest problem is the sh*t digitizer we have. it only senses x OR y moving AWAY OR TOWARDS eachother. it isnt true multtouch. a good example is to download multitouch paint from the demo market. it will read both fingers fine until one crosses the x or y axis in opposite directions.
but anyways back to when you touch, i think toasts source is amazing for the .29 but once htc releases the real .29 source he will really work his magic. .29 fixed alottt of the issues with stuff like music and touch having their own "processes". in .27 they were all bunched together and that made ultra lags while using bt and messing with phone.

This is fixed in Fresh Toast 2.1Final.
I love those two guys.

Need input on how G2X functions as a phone

Considering buying the G2X in 3 days although I am having serious misgivings after reading some of these threads which list the serious issues this device seems to be plagued with. I would greatly appreciate any feedback on how the device functions as a phone such as call clarity and volume through headset and speaker phone clarity and volume. Also apparent signal strength etc. Any and all help is warmly received.

I had the 2x for a month nov. And i will say that the phone have some problems.but its a great phone, and many people are working on it, so it will be a very good phone. I will recommend it to every body. Sorry the bad english.
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thomas30 said:
I had the 2x for a month nov. And i will say that the phone have some problems.but its a great phone, and many people are working on it, so it will be a very good phone. I will recommend it to every body. Sorry the bad english.
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Thanks so much for your reply. Could you tell me how the sound is such as the volume and clarity with speakerphone and head set also the GPS?

The sound is god. Also with speaker. I had a desire hd before, muts better sound on the 2x. I think the small problems with this phone, will be fixed. And we will end up with a fantastic phone, and very very fast.
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thomas30 said:
The sound is god. Also with speaker. I had a desire hd before, muts better sound on the 2x. I think the small problems with this phone, will be fixed. And we will end up with a fantastic phone, and very very fast.
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I sure am wanting to purchase it.How is the GPS? Also thanks for the kind reply and your English is quite good!!!!!

The gps is okay. Go for it, i love this phone. I change phone pretty often, but this time i will stick to the 2x for a very long time.
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thomas30 said:
The gps is okay. Go for it, i love this phone. I change phone pretty often, but this time i will stick to the 2x for a very long time.
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Thanks again I probably will

I have the phone since last friday (Vodafone Germany tho) and it looks like I got a good one lol... I also read all those threads here weeks before getting it and actually made sure that I wouldnt have any issues getting a new one from Vodafone if I had lots of problems.. turns out I dont. Had a few forcecloses the first day (even F-Secure crashed but I never ever launched it so far) but since then not a single one. Also no reboots or major laggs or something similar as reported in that other thread.
The sound quality is actually pretty good, way better then the Nexus One, the speaker is way better.
GPS is fast enough, didnt experience any trouble at all.
But I am going to install a Custom Rom as there are a few lagg spikes when launching apps and stuff but nothing really bad. I just want to see how fast this phone can really be

Also, keep in mind that the device we'll get in the US will be different in build and software from the international version. The speaker/mic combo will most likely be similar, but things like GPS and call quality can vary drastically because they're based on software.

Mr. Spontaneous said:
Also, keep in mind that the device we'll get in the US will be different in build and software from the international version. The speaker/mic combo will most likely be similar, but things like GPS and call quality can vary drastically because they're based on software.
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Good point! I use GPS a lot every day and most of the day. I have a Vibrant now and the GPS leaves a lot to be desired. Teetering back and forth as to whether to pull the trigger and get it or not. Probably will though. Been waiting for it to come out for awhile.

I had a Nokia N8 at home, it could find satelites really quick. The LG2X can't.
The speakers are really the worst hardware part of the device.. really bad sound it's the biggest negative. Overall it is a great phone , the best phone I've ever had, and enjoyed the most.. just too sad the soundquality + speakers is really bad imo.. but my contacts told me that they can here me very good.. so its just you suffering on that not the callers -_-
I can just recommend it. But with the sidenote you to check those things by yourself first live, if these attributes are really that important to you, so you don't get disappointed after.
Would like to hear your thoughts of it when u use it, i believe they could have improved G2x compared to the LG2x, cause it has other messsurements and vanilla android so i guess they reacted to the feedback which was given by the buyers.
Sorry for this long text xD
PS. Just tested GPS again.. and it found within 30 seconds within the building =) GPS is fine!

Every phones has its problem. Nothing is perfect. The o2x as a phone is good. No major issues about it. And after installing paul's MCR, it became a lot lot better.
GPS works fine for me. It just depends where am i. There are places where i can only get a fix after 30-60 seconds but most of the time i can get a fix for 5-10 secs only.

Hey guys, thx for the opinions.
At this moment I have an HTC HD2 and after having owned a numerous number of HTC's I am fedup with them. It seems they make models that always have some issue either batt wise, speaker wise etc.
As I use my phone mainly for gps is there someone who can upload a video on youtube showing the startup with gps status or something?
Also my HD2 has/had a quick lock but the receiver fails in other departments like having jitter on the output making the gps go in crazy steps or circles.
I would also love to see a video of how the screen looks in sunlight and how the speaker sounds when you are using the device as navigation in the car.

Triage1 said:
I had a Nokia N8 at home, it could find satelites really quick. The LG2X can't.
The speakers are really the worst hardware part of the device.. really bad sound it's the biggest negative. Overall it is a great phone , the best phone I've ever had, and enjoyed the most.. just too sad the soundquality + speakers is really bad imo.. but my contacts told me that they can here me very good.. so its just you suffering on that not the callers -_-
I can just recommend it. But with the sidenote you to check those things by yourself first live, if these attributes are really that important to you, so you don't get disappointed after.
Would like to hear your thoughts of it when u use it, i believe they could have improved G2x compared to the LG2x, cause it has other messsurements and vanilla android so i guess they reacted to the feedback which was given by the buyers.
Sorry for this long text xD
PS. Just tested GPS again.. and it found within 30 seconds within the building =) GPS is fine!
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Thanks so much for your kind input. This is just the kind of feedback I need to make a prudent decision. My only phone is a cell phone so I need the phone part to be first class as well as the GPS which I use on a daily basis(also hourly). Still undecided oh well I guess I still have 2 more days to make a decision.

[Q] Does anyone NOT have the reboot/crash issues?

Hi,
I'm seriously considering going out and buying this phone but I'm really not sure after seeing all the threads with people saying that they go back to their phone and it's switched off and requires a battery pull.
This seems to be a fairly serious problem but I was just wondering if it is happening to everyone who owns the O2x?
Please let me know if you are unaffected by the problem!

DarthOps said:
Hi,
I'm seriously considering going out and buying this phone but I'm really not sure after seeing all the threads with people saying that they go back to their phone and it's switched off and requires a battery pull.
This seems to be a fairly serious problem but I was just wondering if it is happening to everyone who owns the O2x?
Please let me know if you are unaffected by the problem!
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Dont do it go for SGS2

Mine is fine! 1 month of use and never crashed.

My phone has been fine not one reboot or freeze, stayed stock rom for first week then rooted and changed roms several times and still no problems, got mine off ebay brand new, can give u the link to the seller if you like
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I've had mine since March and I have not experienced any freezes or reboots.
It really is a great piece of hardware. I'm not that fond of LGs software, but that can be solved with a custom ROM.
// A

aholstenson said:
I've had mine since March and I have not experienced any freezes or reboots.
It really is a great piece of hardware. I'm not that fond of LGs software, but that can be solved with a custom ROM.
// A
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Have you done anything (or have any tips) to try and avoid the issues or do you think you're just lucky lol

KeePeeR26 said:
Dont do it go for SGS2
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Unless you want accurate GPS that is.

Rusty! said:
Unless you want accurate GPS that is.
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So, how do you get on Rusty, you seem like a very experienced XDA member.. how is the O2X treating you?

i am not the best guy to talk to . i just got the phone used yesterday for very cheap. i figured that if i dont like it, i can sell it for the same money or even make a little more and get the SGS2.
but so far. no crashes/reboots.. been more than 24 hours. using custom rom as well.
i got the phone for 300$. the stickers still on it. i figure if i decide to sell it. i wont lose at all..
so far. i am really loving the phone. i love the UI of LG. but its slow. it laggs. i wonder if there is a custom rom with the LG UI but smooth one.
right now i am on modaco. with 3000 quadrant. if i switch to google launcher. phone is smooth. if i switch to LG one, it laggs a little in the home screen. i tried the Tmobile version 2.3 on my optimus. its super smooth. but i cant make phone calls on it lol.
and i had a screen problem with the cayanogen rom. for some reason my screens dims and go bright on its own.
oh yeah. i also have a screen light leak/bleed. but it doesnt bother me much because the only way i can notice it if the room is dark and i have a black wallpaper.

Mine went slow once on stock, once isn't bad though. The froyo Rom does seem rushed in truth, (I have random battery drains from my Dialer which makes no sense) but I'm sure Gingerbread will have everything sorted.

DarthOps said:
So, how do you get on Rusty, you seem like a very experienced XDA member.. how is the O2X treating you?
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Pretty well to be honest. I use CM7 nighties (I bought the phone specifically because it was going to be supported by them) so I cannot expect a bug free experience at this early stage.
I am enjoying it though, I came from a Nexus One that had bugger all internal storage and a poor digitizer, so proper multi-touch and 1.5GB spare for apps is fantastic.
The IPS screen is great if you can overlook the associated backlight bleed (it's not just the 2X, look at iOS devices as well, same thing), the GPS chip is excellent, I can get locks in place that my N1 couldn't.
The stock ROM is turd, frankly. It's fast, until you install something, then it becomes unusable for a bit until it's finished with the app... quality coding

fine
i have my lg optimus 2x now for over a month, no problems here.
i stil have the stock rom.
first v10a. no problem
later v10b. no problem

I have had 2 O2x now for litle over a month
one of them has had BSOD and restarts randomly - the other had none, atleast for the first month - but these past days this one has now also rebooted a couple of times.
Both are completely stock - not rooted and not using any custom roms.
Only using a different launcher which do help make the BSOD and Reboots less often.

DarthOps said:
Have you done anything (or have any tips) to try and avoid the issues or do you think you're just lucky lol
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I haven't done anything special, so I guess I'm just lucky.

KeePeeR26 said:
Dont do it go for SGS2
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I returned my O2X and did exactly this. SGS2 on the way to my door!

smokie700 said:
I returned my O2X and did exactly this. SGS2 on the way to my door!
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TRAITOR hehehehe
Look at all the problems they are having aswell over at there forum

No Issues
I have had it since first day it came out. Not one reboot. Other then minor screen bleed love the phone 1,000X better then my Vibrant

Kickasskev said:
TRAITOR hehehehe
Look at all the problems they are having aswell over at there forum
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I been over there as well. Most of the problems on the SGS 2 are either software or can be solved with apps. My O2X had so many problems that I could never use the phone and wifi at the same time. Bleeding, constant reboots/freezes crashes even with Custom ROMs. Since Im in afghanistan now I need a phone that will work not just when it feels like it. I will say that when the O2X was working it was a sweet phone. I just dont see the same problems with the SGS2 and Samsung tends to be better in the service side instead of LG leaving us pissing in the wind waiting for a "possible update" that might fix things or not.

guess i´m a lucky guy, too!
i have no crashes/reboots and absolutely NO backlight bleeding

Mine is also working properly.
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More people need to star and comment on this issue: touchscreen issue

http://code.google.com/p/android/is...s Owner Summary Stars&groupby=&sort=&id=39892
it's pretty sad that there's only 45 votes on this issue. Here's a hint: bugs won't get fixed if people don't speak up about them. And don't think your voice exactly resonates here on XDA.
Just star it, and leave a comment. Doesn't have to be anything long winded either.
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Maybe most of us just don't consider it a problem that needs fixing? I get bounce back on a number of different screens but I just swipe again, the world is not going to end because of it.

Troute said:
Maybe most of us just don't consider it a problem that needs fixing? I get bounce back on a number of different screens but I just swipe again, the world is not going to end because of it.
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While agree it's not the end of the world, it's a complaint I see often here in kernel and ROM threads. While a lot of it is due to wonky behavior due to OC (either CPU or GPU), it's really just exacerbating an issue that is already present.
Besides, UI bugs are some of the most prevalent and immediately noticeable to more "common" end users. While functionally it's not debilitating, it's an aesthetic scar that doesn't need to be there.
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Hmmm.. So I assume it doesn't matter that I need exactly 15 seconds everytime I get a notification to pull down the status bar, caused by flipbacks. Okay I'm like 1000% sure Google noticed it anyway, cause its on most devices, also 100% stock ones (like me) so...
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The scrolling drives me crazy indeed. We shouldn't have to "make sure we're doing an exact certain way" just in order for it not to bounce back. It should just work, correctly, like our sgs3/gnex/etc...
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jbdan said:
The scrolling drives me crazy indeed. We shouldn't have to "make sure we're doing an exact certain way" just in order for it not to bounce back. It should just work, correctly, like our sgs3/gnex/etc...
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If it would bounce back after a reboot one time, I wouldn't care, but its always there, it doesn't matter what I do, it bounces every time... So its a bit annoying.. This is the only thing which sometimes makes me want to throw the 7 at a wall...
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Thanks OP, have added my star.

I had not noticed this problem but I was intrigued.
I could not duplicate the problem, but I am using Apex launcher, not the stock launcher. Does the problem occur in all launchers? Also I am not using the stock ROM.
I wonder if this problem happens with only some units, or perhaps it relates to those user's expectations. Maybe they expect their device to react more quickly than it is able to.
Far be it for me to be dismissive of people's satisfaction with their devices, but that bug-report thread has a lot of problems. It contains over-reaching claims and supposed knowledge of the problem's causes and solutions.
Again, I don't write off these people's unhappiness but I personally would not star that issue.

i too have this problem when on stock rom..now on PA beta 9 with m-kernel, the problem still exist...and it's very annoying...i even thought there was a problem with my touch screen panel and sent it to asus for repair but when i got it back, the same problem still remains..

Not starring because it does not bother me.
Life has too many other issues to worry about having to occasionally re-swipe.
Now pop-up ads in the Yahoo app could get me started...

squshy 7 said:
Come on guys, with all the members here and all the people who like to complain, it's pretty sad that there's only 45 votes on this issue.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801464
Well over 500 people have voted to say they have a shonky screen, either one fault, several or all listed.
If Asus & Google don't by now know that there is a serious problem with QC of the actual screen and with the build quality then no amount of petitioning will work.

I noticed this issue minutes after pulling this thing out of the box, this might not bother you people who casually use their tablets, but top those of us who have been using android since the G1 notice this. It bothers me so much that I am considering taking this junk back and using the money to get a real tablet from Samsung.
This issue is so annoying to me, I not only notice it on the stock launcher, but also Nova and Apex. Now, the launcher I can deal with, but where I becomes a deal breaker for me is the browser, whether it's chrome or the stock browser in CM10. Trying to scroll around the OS that requires some flicking reminds me of trying to flick scroll on a resistive touch screen, I think that best describes the issue.
I just wanna know if it's fixable through a software update or a hardware problem, cause if it's the latter, this thing is going back, and that's too bad because it was a Santa gift, so I'll have some explaining to do.......

compact_bijou said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801464
Well over 500 people have voted to say they have a shonky screen, either one fault, several or all listed.
If Asus & Google don't by now know that there is a serious problem with QC of the actual screen and with the build quality then no amount of petitioning will work.
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As I stated (not in precise terms sorry) in the OP, it would be a mistake to think that xda threads are the first place companies like Google and Asus check to see what issues people are having. They have issue and bug trackers for a reason. The universe does not revolve around our little community.
Also, this issue pertains to the general consensus that touch screen issues (like bounce back) have become exacerbated on 4.2 and above. Not anything regarding physical QC issues (though, to be fair, may very well be the root cause, but that is an entirely different issue; the fact of the matter remains that anecdotally it appears the touchscreen responded better on 4.1.2)
And besides, I'm just looking out for the well being of this device's future. Reporting bugs on bug trackers is important to these developers.
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to be honest, this annoys me a lot.
starred and commented.

This really annoys me as well. I voted and commented. Hopefully they can get this fixed soon. Otherwise I might switch to CM10.
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This really annoys me too, and its not just the launcher its system wide, my s3 is so much nicer to scroll on, i have tried a few different roms & kernels and also cm10.1 and they all have this issue, anyone found a solution/rom that dosnt have this scroll bounce back issue?

leonclement said:
This really annoys me too, and its not just the launcher its system wide, my s3 is so much nicer to scroll on, i have tried a few different roms & kernels and also cm10.1 and they all have this issue, anyone found a solution/rom that dosnt have this scroll bounce back issue?
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It seems to have been fixed somewhat (at least for me) on stock 4.2.2.

farmerbb said:
It seems to have been fixed somewhat (at least for me) on stock 4.2.2.
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Yea the notification bar is better on 4.2.2, but the launcher still does it, nova prime does it too, and even when on dolphin or boat browser sometimes when you flick it will scroll nicely & sometimes a flick wont move the page much at all, weird and annoying, would be a much better experience if it was fixed!

This is a huge issue for me. Is there a way to increase or decrease sensitivity? Maybe that would help.
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Interesting, I thought I was the only one who had noticed this. Don't know why I haven't seen this thread earlier.
For me I solved this by using apex launcher, somehow you never get those annoying jumpbacks. I tried nova launcher as well but it worked as bad as the original launcher. Going to star tomorrow.
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Please help - really wanna change my phone's OS ;(

I bought an HTC Desire 510 few months ago cause my Xperia ARC died (was the best phone I ever had).
Now I am very disappointed with the HTC 510, mainly cause of it's awful operating system bundled by google ALL OVER the place
The user interface is a one big disaster, so much annoying and unnecessary stuff... besides the annoying bloatware (parental control app? srsly?)
I really wanna root this phone and change it's OS to those similar of gingerbreed, cyanogen etc but I don't know how to do this with my current phone
and don't even know what custom operating systems are available for the model I have.
What annoys me about the user interface:
*Often lowers the earphone music volume without my permission then gives me this annoying warning that making it higher will damage my hearing - srsly?
*Screen tends to lower it's lighting and back again by itself while I use the phone
*A button at the bottom of the menu that looks like a "home logo" will open somekind of useless google page each time I drag that button up by mistake.
*Terrible and irremovable Gallery app, not to mention it displays images in uncomfortable way, it also features a slideshow which often plays automatically without me asking it to each time I enter a photo album.
*Poorly made irremovable alarm clock app
*Other forced google apps installed on my phone which i don't use and can't just get rid of
*Bad just bad option of organizing apps, well for me atleast, back on my Xperia ARC I used to organize my apps by "commonly used apps" feature, went great, here it's just wacky, it doesn't do it automatically after you set it to organize the following way. So I find myself surfing through all the useless apps to find the app I need at the app menu.
Can anyone give me guidance or recommendation for an alternative Operating System I could replace this horrific google product infecting my phone since I bought it?
I presume this phone would become amazing with a new custom OS, did anyone changed the OS on their HTC 510? if yes what you use and how is it?
Also I know to root this device you first need to unlock the bootloader, is there anything else important I need to know when rooting it?

Sofia_ZARAZA said:
horrific google product
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Perhaps you should buy an iPhone.
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VigiDroid said:
Perhaps you should buy an iPhone.
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Beggars can't be choosers. Of course this person is trying to be both.

Sofia_ZARAZA said:
I bought an HTC Desire 510
Can anyone give me guidance or recommendation for an alternative Operating System I could replace this horrific google product infecting my phone since I bought it?
I presume this phone would become amazing with a new custom OS, did anyone changed the OS on their HTC 510? if yes what you use and how is it?
Also I know to root this device you first need to unlock the bootloader, is there anything else important I need to know when rooting it?
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Dude really. Maybe you should have checked out the forums of this model B4 you bought it. That being said, since you say you are unlocked and rooted then doing a quick search should get you everything you need to rid yourself of all that is bothering you. Depending on what you have and with whom there are some pretty good options out there to use. Check it out and start doing it.
Or you could just throw your phone in the lake, buy and Iphone and forget about it. Bam!

CSP III said:
Dude really. Maybe you should have checked out the forums of this model B4 you bought it. That being said, since you say you are unlocked and rooted then doing a quick search should get you everything you need to rid yourself of all that is bothering you. Depending on what you have and with whom there are some pretty good options out there to use. Check it out and start doing it.
Or you could just throw your phone in the lake, buy and Iphone and forget about it. Bam!
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I actually planned to buy Galaxy 3, heard it was good but also had slow loading problems, then I was offered an alternative of this HTC for the same price and faster working system. It was a spontaneous buy.
And I thought buying an Iphone but changed my mind cause of the "itunes" thing.
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doing a quick search should get you everything you need to rid yourself of all that is bothering you.
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Ok, how do I deal with the "menu" thing where I want to authomatically always to arrange my icons by last used but cant right now?
I tried themes, but those are so intrusive and full of advertising, well those I tried so far.. (if there are any good ones to recommend I'd give a try) and how about disabling the annoying requests of updates I don't even need? <--(forgot to mention this issue) And how about issues 1-3 I mentioned? any idea how i deal with those then? You talk as if it's so easy, show me then.
About the lake.. better to throw to those who came up with this terrible phone idea

Sofia_ZARAZA said:
I actually planned to buy Galaxy 3, heard it was good but also had slow loading problems, then I was offered an alternative of this HTC for the same price and faster working system. It was a spontaneous buy.
And I thought buying an Iphone but changed my mind cause of the "itunes" thing.
Ok, how do I deal with the "menu" thing where I want to authomatically always to arrange my icons by last used but cant right now?
I tried themes, but those are so intrusive and full of advertising, well those I tried so far.. (if there are any good ones to recommend I'd give a try) and how about disabling the annoying requests of updates I don't even need? <--(forgot to mention this issue) And how about issues 1-3 I mentioned? any idea how i deal with those then? You talk as if it's so easy, show me then.
About the lake.. better to throw to those who came up with this terrible phone idea
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All I can say (and I never said it was easy) is for you to subscribe to all of the HTC 510 Forums and start reading thru the threads. In your case, the most helpful one being this one..."Help & Troubleshooting" if you can not find answers to your particular questions then I would assume that means we just aren't there yet. This is a pretty new device after all. I wouldnt know about themes being I am on custom ROM and that is not an option. You should maybe go for the Unlock and root your phone method. Try out some of the ROMs available. I believe that will alleviate many of your issues since the stock ROM that came with these units have multiple issues. Many of them are the same ones you are experiencing. I wish you well and Read, Read, Read.
Good Luck

Sofia_ZARAZA said:
Ok, how do I deal with the "menu" thing where I want to authomatically always to arrange my icons by last used but cant right now? I tried themes, but those are so intrusive and full of advertising, well those I tried so far.. (if there are any good ones to recommend I'd give a try) and how about disabling the annoying requests of updates I don't even need? <--(forgot to mention this issue) And how about issues 1-3 I mentioned? any idea how i deal with those then? You talk as if it's so easy, show me then.
About the lake.. better to throw to those who came up with this terrible phone idea
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You should definitely read through the forums if you haven't so far. I have read/skimmed every thread here about our phone and I almost have no questions or concerns except for some ideas for a couple of issues that haven't been brought up yet or just not yet done.
I only use Sense Home or Dodol Launcher and they both don't have the option to sort by last used, check out Nova, Apex, or some other launcher.
As far as the update is concerned, you can follow this post by LarryBoyG, if you plan to stay on stock. I'm sure a custom ROM will be built that includes the update, unless everyone just wants to wait for Lollipop.