Juice defender - Is it worth it? - Nexus S Themes and Apps

I had heard about it before. Installed it a couple of days before to see if it really helps. The app says that my battery life is improved by 1.57x. But I don't see any improvement!
Does it make sense using it with custom roms?
I am running CM7 gearhead kang.
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I prefer green power over JD. I had the paid version of both and think green power got more accomplished with less battery drain than JD. Now don't get me wrong I did notice a tiny increase in battery when I had JD, but it seems like a bigger increase with green power and it feels like it uses less resources to me with that. But in the end I guess it comes down to personal preferences, hope I helped!

Thanks for the info. With JD I don't see any improvement at all.
I will try green power
vertigosrs said:
I prefer green power over JD. I had the paid version of both and think green power got more accomplished with less battery drain than JD. Now don't get me wrong I did notice a tiny increase in battery when I had JD, but it seems like a bigger increase with green power and it feels like it uses less resources to me with that. But in the end I guess it comes down to personal preferences, hope I helped!
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Suddenly bad battery life = battery gone bad?

Basically, a few weeks ago I flashed assonance 5.0 and my standby battery life was terrible. The battery would die by the time I got out of school which is around 7-8 hours of standby time.
So hoping to solve this problem. I flashed the captivate version of doc's rom and I have the exact same battery life. I have recalibrated the battery many times as well.
Sooo, do you think my battery has gone bad?
And if so, any good places where I could get a spare?
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Many have posted eBay has some good deals.
I still suspect that many of these phones were shipped with crap batteries hence the differences with people using the same roms having much different battery life.
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Many have posted eBay has some good deals.
I still suspect that many of these phones were shipped with crap batteries hence the differences with people using the same roms having much different battery life.
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Well the thing is that my battery life wasn't terrible before. Or not this bad at least :x
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Have you at least tried reflashing to stock to see if the problem is with the roms or with your battery?
Not for an extended period... but the thing is I read through some of the rom threads. And if it was the rom people would be complaining about battery life, but no one is :/
In fact, it is quite the opposite...
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That's awesome.
What, you don't like my phone sig?
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crazililazn said:
Basically, a few weeks ago I flashed assonance 5.0 and my standby battery life was terrible. The battery would die by the time I got out of school which is around 7-8 hours of standby time.
So hoping to solve this problem. I flashed the captivate version of doc's rom and I have the exact same battery life. I have recalibrated the battery many times as well.
Sooo, do you think my battery has gone bad?
And if so, any good places where I could get a spare?
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kernel related or bad battery!!!!
Well i am using Glitterball's latest kernel before Firebird. Or the stock kernel that came with the Doc's Captivate Rom 7.0
Either way, there has been a huge drop in battery life and I do not think it is kernel related, because on the Assonance 5.0 rom, i was running Setiron's 1.4.7 kernel with the exact same problems with battery life :'(
This is highly dependent on how you have your settings on your phone.
1) Wi-Fi constantly looking for an active network connection? At least have it go to sleep when the phone goes on standby. I only turn mine on at home or otherwise need and have access to it. Otherwise its off.
2) GPS running all the time? Personally, I rarely ever need to use it, but it runs great when I do.
3) Display at recommended brightness or higher? Recommended or less is best as far as saving battery power. I like mine all the way down. Don't need/want it any brighter.
I even tend to use only darker wallpapers as bright and lighter colors pull more power on AMOLED screens. This makes a little bit of difference. How much I don't know, but I do know that it does. Sometimes the above settings like to change on you. It's a good idea to check 'em once in a while.
While it's usually always around 60% full when I go to bed, I still charge my cell every night.
I have found that the speedmod kernel is real good for conserving battery power. Not downing other kernels as they're all real good. Speedmod handles battery consumption better in my experience.
Have you installed any new software that might be accessing the network checking for updates/feeds, etc?
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This is highly dependent on how you have your settings on your phone.
1) Wi-Fi constantly looking for an active network connection? At least have it go to sleep when the phone goes on standby. I only turn mine on at home or otherwise need and have access to it. Otherwise its off.
2) GPS running all the time? Personally, I rarely ever need to use it, but it runs great when I do.
3) Display at recommended brightness or higher? Recommended or less is best as far as saving battery power. I like mine all the way down. Don't need/want it any brighter.
I even tend to use only darker wallpapers as bright and lighter colors pull more power on AMOLED screens. This makes a little bit of difference. How much I don't know, but I do know that it does. Sometimes the above settings like to change on you. It's a good idea to check 'em once in a while.
While it's usually always around 60% full when I go to bed, I still charge my cell every night.
I have found that the speedmod kernel is real good for conserving battery power. Not downing other kernels as they're all real good. Speedmod handles battery consumption better in my experience.
Have you installed any new software that might be accessing the network checking for updates/feeds, etc?
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1)I always had my Wifi sleep policy on never. So its not what is affecting the battery life
2) Never have GPS on unless i need it. Heck, when i need it, it never works.
3) nothing that i didnt have before.
Basically, I haven't changed anything to cause the decrease in battery life.
Your two biggest drains on battery are WiFi (especially when consistently seeking - any new access points where you leave it on standby all day?) and your display. Could it be your battery? Sure. Go exchange it at AT&T. They shouldn't have a problem exchanging it for you
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Cozmo1 said:
Your two biggest drains on battery are WiFi (especially when consistently seeking - any new access points where you leave it on standby all day?) and your display. Could it be your battery? Sure. Go exchange it at AT&T. They shouldn't have a problem exchanging it for you
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Well the thing is. I have never had this battery life with my Wifi settings left untouched. So yeah, i will probably get a new battery from AT&T tomorrow and report back if it was the battery or not :]
give this thread a quick read, its more based around 2.2.1 roms but you could find some good information
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884816

[Q] What to do Against battery drain?

I now have one week to the Nexus One bought secondhand. It suits me perfectly stand alone I have a little trouble with the battery life of the phone. Morning when the phone is 100% and I come out of school (14:30 hours) the battery is still around 20%. I find this a bit short. Ok, I'll use him at school (bit Internet, twitter refreshes every 9 minutes)
There is an automatic task killer, and that helps a bit but I think there are about 80% after 8 hours battery life is a bit much. Me internet is also constantly and I really like to keep.
The battery is probably not because I've got 2 batteries and they both give the same result.
Anyone have any idea what I can do?
I've been a bit inet searched but not really found anything. I did see somewhere a separate battery behind the phone, but I'm not waiting because that makes him a bit heavier and uglier.
10% per hour is pretty poor battery life. Are you running stock Android? 3rd party firmwares can give you much better battery life (the latest versions of CyanogenMod are using less than 1% per hour when fully idle).
But there are things you can check. Have you looked in Settings -> About phone -> Battery usage? If you are using Gingerbread and you look at the graph, if there is a solid line (or mostly solid) next to the "awake" portion, it means that your phone isn't properly entering its low powered state. Download spare parts from the market and check out partial wake usage under the battery history section of that app.
Please post your screen on time value from the battery menu so we can see how long your screen is on.
I would say to go and disable background data. Disabling this will definitely improve your battery life. Of course, you aren't going to get you twitter updates but aside from that, the battery life should improve.
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FLAC Vest said:
I would say to go and disable background data. Disabling this will definitely improve your battery life. Of course, you aren't going to get you twitter updates but aside from that, the battery life should improve.
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While it is true that battery life would improve if Background Data was disabled (or limited via a program like Juice Defender), it doesn't take into account his actual problem. Unless it is a ton of apps constantly downloading that is keeping his battery usage in the toilet, this will only yield a slight improvement. I believe the cause is is an app (or apps) that prevent his phone from entering the low powered sleep state.
I don't know what stock Android gets from completely idle use (haven't run it since July last year), but a basic CyanogenMod install would sip between 1-2% per hour with the latest stable and the latest nightlies, some are reporting 1% every 2-3 hours when the phone is left alone (due to a fix that lets the microphones go into a deep sleep state).
Twitter refreshing every 9 minutes can not be helping, that said I doubt that's your entire issue but reducing the refresh rate should help quite a bit.
If you bought it used, it could be a bum battery. Not sure i know what apps work best to find out that info. Anybody?
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If you bought it used, it could be a bum battery. Not sure i know what apps work best to find out that info. Anybody?
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The battery app in my sig is the only one that reads the chip inside your battery to tell if it's legit or not, what the battery age is, etc. Needs root to work though.
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If you bought it used, it could be a bum battery. Not sure i know what apps work best to find out that info. Anybody?
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You can also get Battery Left from the Marketplace and when it gets calibrated it gives you a time until death number and some other features.
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Start by getting rid of the task killer.
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JuiceDefender?

Hi
Anyone using JuiceDefender with your galaxy note? is it worth it to buy this application?
Thanks
Sam
Save your money and skip it like anti virus apps. Many people recommended it so i bought it but i didn't like it at all. Experienced sluggish performance, connections not stable and sometimes connection doesn't even come back on unless i manually turn it back on. Also push mail doesn't work since juicedefender turns off data when not in use and checks every 15, 30 etc intervals (however u set it to check), i don't like that at all. I rather have 100% reliable fast performance connectivity than app that saves few % of battery. Just my 2cents
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hmm i heard alot of people telling it saves alot of battery power.. jus wanted to know about the pro version..
Yeah it does save quite an amount. You can configure it to on off Wi-Fi necessarily or learn specific network when you are on the particular area of interest.
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hmm i heard alot of people telling it saves alot of battery power.. jus wanted to know about the pro version..
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My experience was with juicedefender ultimate.
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My experience was with juicedefender ultimate.
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How was it? any real battery improvement? any lagging issues?
Sam
My previous phone was pretty crappy and I had pretty crappy service, so I had to make sure I turned wifi, mobile data, etc. off when not using them. On my Note, I don't even bother turning them off because they drain so little. I don't think bothering with Juicedefender is worth the trouble.
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Had an old Xperia Arc and Juice Defender worked quite well to last me the day.
Now with the Note, I tried with and without it and I find no significant difference actually.
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I agree...
Being new to the android and rooting scene. I downloaded all the recommended apps and one by one uninstalled them including juicedefender...
Whats the point of it stopping data when screen is off? It defeats the purpose of push notifications.
Also I didn't notice any real extension of battery life either
I think it depends how you set up juice defender ultimate. For example on weekdays and working hours I use the "peek" option, letting jd enable connection every 5 minutes. Of course I have than battery drain. With different settings on different times and/or days (up to flight mode at night) I have significant less battery consumption.
It is also important when you use your phone a lot with the screen on, not to let jd automatically turn data on, because then there is obviously no difference at all, with or with out jd running.
There is no use of such apps, I have tried used many such apps from my S2 days and I never felt any difference in performance or battery life..just let it go. Ur using an Android device, and if u use it as a smartphone should be used, u will need to charge in at least once a day.
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AutoStarts is doing everything for me.
I had used JuiceDefender for a short spell when on GB. However, BetterBatteryStats soon showed what a battery hog JD was, so I made it disappear from my phone. Forever.
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I had used JuiceDefender for a short spell when on GB. However, BetterBatteryStats soon showed what a battery hog JD was, so I made it disappear from my phone. And never again.
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Exactly. Juice defender is crap. Its just for lazy people who can't maintain their settings on their own. and juice defender is obviously always running in the background, using up cpu power and draining battery on its own
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How was it? any real battery improvement? any lagging issues?
Sam
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It does save little battery and drains at the same time. Huge down side of using this kind of app is no push and data connection is glitchy, sometimes takes awhile to connect back to network or wifi and slower performance. I can still use gnote all day with single charge so I don't find this kind of app useful to me at all. It's really not hard to turn off and on data or wifi on android unlike ios crap where you have to dig in settings.
Save few % battery vs slow performance, hit or miss connection.. I think answer is simple
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I used to use it, ultimate version. But I quit using it and still have great battery because of my own setting changes. Juicedefender might be okay for people that don't use their phone much. But, if you are constantly on it, like I am, it is just a memory and battery hog.
Its not worth it, and possibly wastes battery juice rather than saving it.
I've been using it for several weeks now, when i go to sleep my usual percentage is from 70 to 85 % i always turn wifi off as i don't charge it at night. With the app running in the background, when i wake up it goes down to 45% when i do not use it as in its not running in the background I'm the morning the battery percentage only hours down by 5% max to 80%.
Pcworld made an intensiv3 comparison on the effect this apps do. The verdict: keep your money.
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battery saver is better
Don't bother. I used it on my HTC Flyer and I saw no difference. Migrated it to the SGN and I saw a huge difference after I uninstalled.
The features are limited and just stupid if you ask me. I believe the best battery app would regulste connectivity on demand (ie when I open Dolphin or refresh Facebook it would connect automatically and disconnect immediately afterwards).
If you are looking to extend battery life I suggest self regulating your connectivity (ie use the toggles) and screen brightness.
For even better battery life try and avoid apps that constantly run (eg ones that monitor other apos and processes).
You should get very decent life out of the SGN, and if you don't do what I did and get a spare battery. They are cheaper than you might think and they are an absolute life saver in emergencies or times with heavy usage.
Hope that helped
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Battery problems being caused by..?

Google Plus?!!? Picked up my N4 over the weekend but have been massively underwhelmed by the battery life, coming from an S3, with a similar rated battery and all that extra bloatware, its hard to see how the N4 fares so much worse. Anyway, Ive been poring over the battery stats and plus kept coming high up the list as a high consumer. Disabling G+ has made a MASSIVE difference for me. YMMV but would be interested to hear if anyone else has had similar experiences, or tips on battery?
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Google Plus?!!? Picked up my N4 over the weekend but have been massively underwhelmed by the battery life, coming from an S3, with a similar rated battery and all that extra bloatware, its hard to see how the N4 fares so much worse. Anyway, Ive been poring over the battery stats and plus kept coming high up the list as a high consumer. Disabling G+ has made a MASSIVE difference for me. YMMV but would be interested to hear if anyone else has had similar experiences, or tips on battery?
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I turn off Auto sync and haptic feedback.
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I turn off Auto sync and haptic feedback.
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My battery life is not great, either and seems so effing stupid to buy this wonderful phone for all its great features then have to turn down the brightness and disable Google Now and all sorts of other stuff just to be able to get through a day of use. It's like buying a supercar and having to drive it in valet mode all the time.
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I turn off Auto sync and haptic feedback.
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I doubt, don't quote me on this, that haptic feedback will make a noticeable difference
Google now is the problem if you ask me - it's constantly using GPS which kills battery life. Shame cause google now is cool. I've turned my GPS off and will see how it affects thigns (I suspect I'll see a huge increase in battery life)
Actually haptic feedback can be draining depending on your settings. I tested this on my last device.
Just turn all this crap off. I use a widget that shows the weather, clock and has switches. I turn off auto sync mostly, etc.
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We have too many battery threads as it is. Please use one of those
The great battery impression thread
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(Solved) AOS/KP Battery drains like water..

Hi guys,
Its been a while but meh.
I just need to know how to get the best out of my battery on szeszo's CyanVIVO 10.1. I am currently using the conservative governor... Any tips to save battery?
Cheers,
I'm no expert but when I was on a rom like yours, my battery life seemed to go down when my brightness was up.
Yeah but my brightness is as low as possible... I have put my Max voltage to 768, see if that helps
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How long of battery are you expecting out of your phone?
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Hopefully about 10-15 hours on full charge.. I think the voltage change has helped. The thing that annoys me is that my phone loses battery even in standby. This didn't happen when I was on sense
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LamboBull said:
Hopefully about 10-15 hours on full charge.. I think the voltage change has helped. The thing that annoys me is that my phone loses battery even in standby. This didn't happen when I was on sense
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10-15 hours is quite a lot. Try to buy an extra battery. :good:
I used different ROMs and collected a lot of tips-n-tricks for a better battery life.
1. The less home screens you have, the better. Each swipe action, though it sounds strange, requires up to 100% of your CPU which hits the battery life. If you fit most of your icons and widgets to 1-2 screens, it will save your battery, because you won't swipe back and forth.
2. No need to keep the brightness on the lowest level, if you are using the ROM which lets you calibrate the backlight levels. Spend 1-2 days on choosing a comfortable level of brightness for each level of outer light intensity.
3. Move all togglers for WiFi, GPS etc. to the main screen (Elixir 2 [Widget] is a good tool to create a control panel) or to the notification area. It will remind you that some functions are turned on, and you'll be able to disable them. I always disable WiFi in the office, because I have a decent amount of free Mbs to spend, and our WiFi access point is 'blinking' making my phone reconnect again and again... you know. Don't forget to turn off GPS if you don't use it frequently.
4. Don't let your widgets synchronize the data too often. It's better to use synchronization on demand.
My phone with CyanVivo 10.1 aboard is able to live for 15 hours without recharging which includes web browsing, books reading, calls making and a bit of gaming. I guess that's the time period you need...
If you want, I can tell more about the apps that I'm using.
Thanks for your replies guys, I can definately see an improvement in battery life, but how do i change backlight levels? I want to be able to game with a decent amount of battery left. I only have three home screens and my Bluetooth, GPS, and WiFi is off when unnecessary.
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LamboBull said:
Thanks for your replies guys, I can definately see an improvement in battery life, but how do i change backlight levels?
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If you're using CyanVivo 10.1, you have this feature.
Open Settings -> Screen, choose Brightness (I can be mistaken about the actual option names, because my system language is different, but I hope it won't mislead you), check 'Auto' box in the dialog box and touch the second button below (Customize or Calibrate or whatever -- again, I don't know how it's called in your case). You'll see a list of brightness levels which your device can distinguish according to its light sensor. Shift all runners to the left. Walk around with the device in your hands, look at its screen under bright daylight, in the room near the window, in the elevator etc. As soon as you see that some level is not comfortable to you (too bright or too dark), open this screen again, look at the current level (displayed at the top of the window with runners) and adjust the setting for the corresponding brightness range.
Remember that each next brightness level must be higher than the previous one (you won't be able to move the runner more to the left than the previous one.
Hi,
Can you tell on what level current you have while phone is in standby? Using for example CurrentWidget.
I have at about 60mA level. And I think that it is too high. Battery drain at about 2 or 3 percents per hour.
Thank you for your answer.
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Disable Google Now and Google Location History. They're draining the battery as hell.
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szraf said:
Hi,
Can you tell on what level current you have while phone is in standby? Using for example CurrentWidget.
I have at about 60mA level. And I think that it is too high. Battery drain at about 2 or 3 percents per hour.
Thank you for your answer.
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Yea lol sorry for posting after a while. My battery is an alarming 334 mAh, and I have disabled Google now etc., lowered brightness and stuff. What do I do? It's really annoying having my battery strain so much. This morning, I lost 4% in 45 seconds.
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LamboBull said:
Yea lol sorry for posting after a while. My battery is an alarming 334 mAh, and I have disabled Google now etc., lowered brightness and stuff. What do I do? It's really annoying having my battery strain so much. This morning, I lost 4% in 45 seconds.
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Try to use BetterBatteryStats. Propably you will find the app responsible for that.
Think it's time for a new battery.
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Tell me about some apps that are helpful to save battery
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noremac258 said:
Think it's time for a new battery.
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I don't think so because on stock sense, battery is amazing. I am using greenify.
EDIT: Can those on CM10.1 tell me what their adjustments are to save battery? This includes voltage, governors, battery lux levels, APS which save battery etc. Thanks heaps guys.
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Never mind, battery is amazing now. Thanks for the help guys.
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Care to share which suggestions made the most difference to your battery performance?
I'm in a similar situation, but I have already tried a new battery which makes no difference
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Senor.Afro said:
Care to share which suggestions made the most difference to your battery performance?
I'm in a similar situation, but I have already tried a new battery which makes no difference
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Just adjust governors, use greenify, and adjust brightness.. Read through the different pages to see tips.
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DS Battery Saver
I tried DS Battery Saver, it helps very significantly, when I lock the screen, it auto-cut the wifi and data, and only wake up for a 1 min every x hours, I can set the plan, it's an amazing tool. Now I can use my phone for 15 hours in average.

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