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Am I the only one here complaining of the very bad video quality taken with the Kaiser (TyTN II) apparently caused by the low frame rate ? I don't think so, because I've heard few other people complaining of the same thing....
I just want you guys to either raise your voice or suggest a solution... I used to take much better videos using older HTC models, and the Kaiser supposed to be doing better than those older models, not worse....
Check out the following YouTube clip to compare the Kaiser to Nokia N95..... What a shame
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz9lqEATEA0
Yes, its utterly useless. The 8525 was better. Why?
wow striking comparison. there's got to be a way to up the FPS via the registry...
I tried changing both the fps and bitrate in the registry but see no improvement.
I believe it will require software or driver update through HTC... I hope they are aware of it.... guys we have to email HTC so they will be aware of it (if they are not already)
Yup, this is a hard/software problem; no known player works at a decent speed.
I wonder if you can disable the autofocus of the camera and make the video quality better?
The front facing camera does not have auto focus and it shoots much better video.
Bummer. This was a major selling point to me and I have yet to get decent quality.
I haven't done much encoding, so I thought it was my bad on the encode side.
So even with TCPMP/Core Player and optimal encode settings, it's still bad? People have been saying sling player works well, is it because they stream at a low frame rate?
EDIT: Doing a bit more research, seems some people have gotten decent performance...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298126 (but on Wizard)
Here is some hope for it being just an encoding/settings issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336063&highlight=video (Page 2)
from another forum
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/htc-...5/93396-video-performance-recomendations.html
But this seems to suggest there is some firmware work to be done before any "real" improvement can take place.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339173&highlight=video
And here, the recommendation is the .7x TCPMP (should be the right one under the Kaiser CABS sticky)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336433&highlight=video
Seems there is quite a bit of competing info on this. Can anyone confirm settings that work? If so, please post details of player/settings/encoding rates/codec/ etc. Maybe there is a sweet spot that will make do until a firmware update can be had (if this is even a possible fix).
This thread is pertaining to video -capture- quality, not playback.
Yes, good catch. Playback also seems to be disappointing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339173&highlight=video
I wonder if there is any relation.
I cant get the frame rate on my TyTN 2 much above 9 FPS with my Slingbox. Are are and how are people getting these 25 plus frames per second????.
Matt.
Someone please change this thread title to "Low Video Capture Quality" please. lol
Im talking about watching movies, playing games - i dont know what the reason its so slow but it is painfully slow. its bothering me a lot. it seems like older much cheaper phones can play video much better than our phones.
is it a hardware fault (no hope) or a software fault ?
its a software fault
if you update your phone to some custom roms the phone runs LOTS faster
anyways, my videos and some 3d games run pretty fast on my phone.
not java games cause those arent hardware supported
I have to say that I am pretty darn happy with video playback on this phone... its fast and doesnt lag... the sound is even in sync with the picture unlike some devices I have tried before... I have not played any graphics intensive games on this phone so far though...
a game like archibalds adventure cant even scroll properly. i mean it looks like it was taken out of the 80s.
Maybe it is because this phone has up to 5 times more pixels then previous phones you have owned?
whats the point in it having 5 times the pixels if it cant cope with them
tehnoobzorz said:
its a software fault
if you update your phone to some custom roms the phone runs LOTS faster
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orangedavie said:
whats the point in it having 5 times the pixels if it cant cope with them
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It copes with them just fine. it just wasn't made with gaming in mind.
Shadowdh said:
I have to say that I am pretty darn happy with video playback on this phone... its fast and doesnt lag... the sound is even in sync with the picture unlike some devices I have tried before... I have not played any graphics intensive games on this phone so far though...
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What videos? Are these videos, by chance a chintzy 320x240? I've tried avi videos in standard DVD resolution, 720x480 and 640x480 and they are both choppy as hell. There are far too many apologists for the really lackluster video playback on this device. I realize it's a driver issue, but when rich multimedia playback is one of the selling points, I think it verges on false advertising when it can't play accepted video standards. Have HTC pony up the money to Qualcomm for the right drivers and I think the X1 and a number of other devices in their stable can really start to live up to their claims.
Yeah, I have to agree. 5X the pixels means nothing if the phone can't handle them
No problem for me with video...
-I recode vidéo in 800*480 with HTC Touch HD Video Converter
-I use Windows Media Player to watch video
rom im using
im using touch it xperience 3.5 but i've heard touch it 2.2 was faster
from now on if it has qualcom in the hardware spec im gonna avoid it like the plague!
I gotta admit, just when I start being happy with the Xperia video.....
I'll look over at some movie my wife is watching on the iphone and just shake my head. The Xperia is NOT impressive in the video dept. I can get video to play to ALMOST lag free and it looks pretty dang good. But c'mon already! With the hardware capabilities of this phone, video should look all around amazing.
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What videos? Are these videos, by chance a chintzy 320x240? I've tried avi videos in standard DVD resolution, 720x480 and 640x480 and they are both choppy as hell. There are far too many apologists for the really lackluster video playback on this device. I realize it's a driver issue, but when rich multimedia playback is one of the selling points, I think it verges on false advertising when it can't play accepted video standards. Have HTC pony up the money to Qualcomm for the right drivers and I think the X1 and a number of other devices in their stable can really start to live up to their claims.
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I have converted some Chinese tv serial episodes using magic video converter and they came out great, not too sure of the res but by memory its around 640x480 to 720x480 as you comment... no lag and sound is better than I expected... I also have a movie or two that works just as well, again Chinese stuff (as I am learning Chinese I find this is an interesting way to help out with both reading (subtitles) and listening)... I am using coreplayer and have it in full screen mode when watching...
Oh and I am by no means an apologist... if it was crap I would say so, but its not... but then I dont expect my phone to act or have the same capacity as my laptop/pc.... its a phone and does what it says on the tin...
I dont get it. I have a stock ROM and my video is perfect. I downloaded an Ipod converted (m4v) version of Superbad and it looks and sounds amazing FULL screen btw). All i had to do was rename the file to mp4 and it works perfectly! Maybe there is something else going on with you guys phones. I also have Anchorman, SemiPro, and several others running perfectly. Besides TF3D, i dont have any other plug ins installed.
I also have no issues with video playback,
I am running Touch IT 2.2 which i am not willing to replace yet because the ROM is fast as hell and bug free. Just used the HD converter in the sticky on page 1 along with a few speed tweeks from the Mark a Clienti thread and POW!! full screen, top notch quality res and not a single lag or frame drop in sight.
I have noticed that a lot of people are having issues with various applications on their SE X1's but i dont seem to have had any issues at all. I started with the clean ROM and made sure i installed all of my required apps and tweaks in one go, making sure to reset after each install. After that i just sat back and watched it fly, maybe i'm just lucky
Regards,
Creamy-Goodness
creamy said:
I also have no issues with video playback,
I am running Touch IT 2.2 which i am not willing to replace yet because the ROM is fast as hell and bug free. Just used the HD converter in the sticky on page 1 along with a few speed tweeks from the Mark a Clienti thread and POW!! full screen, top notch quality res and not a single lag or frame drop in sight.
I have noticed that a lot of people are having issues with various applications on their SE X1's but i dont seem to have had any issues at all. I started with the clean ROM and made sure i installed all of my required apps and tweaks in one go, making sure to reset after each install. After that i just sat back and watched it fly, maybe i'm just lucky
Regards,
Creamy-Goodness
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i dont see why I have to convert videos to another format.
Shadowdh said:
I have converted some Chinese tv serial episodes using magic video converter and they came out great, not too sure of the res but by memory its around 640x480 to 720x480 as you comment... no lag and sound is better than I expected... I also have a movie or two that works just as well, again Chinese stuff (as I am learning Chinese I find this is an interesting way to help out with both reading (subtitles) and listening)... I am using coreplayer and have it in full screen mode when watching...
Oh and I am by no means an apologist... if it was crap I would say so, but its not... but then I dont expect my phone to act or have the same capacity as my laptop/pc.... its a phone and does what it says on the tin...
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You might want to check out what the bitrates are on those videos. Your average avi video is about 1.3-1.4 gigabytes in size for your standard 1.75-2 hour movie. That comes to about 1,500 kbs. Anything significantly less than that and it looks kind of muddy when viewed on a regular sized TV screen. Ideally, you shouldn't even have to recode video you ripped yourself. In theory you should be able to rip once and play on all your appliances that are video capable using a standard codec with reasonable settings. An avi file 1.3 gigabytes in size for a 2 hour movie is entirely reasonable and I highly doubt that you can achieve that with the X1 in its current state. I've tried extensively and the only way you can make it play with any level of smoothness is by dramatically reducing the resolution or dropping the bitrate precipitously. You can't just drag an acceptable video from your computer onto this phone and expect it to play acceptably the way it is right now. As for the expectation that it's only a phone I say that the drivers are the only thing that prevent it from meeting the expectations. I'll bet the hardware is there, but HTC just feels like being cheap. Heck, there are phones debuting at MWC right now that do full motion 1080p playback of h.264 video. The X1, which isn't more than a few months old, can't smoothly play back a 640x480 1,500 kbs video. At $700 retail and their promise of a full-featured multi-media device that is scandalous. I dare anyone to say otherwise.
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You might want to check out what the bitrates are on those videos. Your average avi video is about 1.3-1.4 gigabytes in size for your standard 1.75-2 hour movie. That comes to about 1,500 kbs. Anything significantly less than that and it looks kind of muddy when viewed on a regular sized TV screen.
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You sound much more knowledgable than me so I wont try to argue with you, but I have quite a few avi files that are around the 800mb size that play very well and are crisp and clear even on a bigger screen (my laptop is 15.4 and pc is 19inches), in fact I find it pretty rare to have an avi file over 900 Mb for a standard movie (up to 2hours I would guess is pretty standard)... As another poster a couple of posts back mentioned, I notice a few problems that people are having that I dont... thank goodness as with my level of understanding I would be hard pressed to now what it is I need to search for to fix the problem...
Is there a way or tweak to get the camera to record at VGA or WVGA @ 30fps? I have a 14 month old daughter and im constantly taking pics of her for the familly ect and noticed that when recording video the framerate is very laggy or slow motion like. The iphone 3gs records great video quality and the N1 has better specs so id assume higher frame rate on record is possible with the N1 also.
Any thoughts anyone?
Thx Guys!
buy a video camera?
jamesyb0i said:
buy a video camera?
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People trip me out some time with there smart remarks.
If you like carrying around multi devices good for you. I have a stand alone camera that does video record ect but my camera is not ALLWAYS on me.
The same way the Nexus is good for multi media such as mp3 / and watching videos but I dont go buy a PSP or ipod touch for that I use my phone. The point of the high end phones these days is to try to limit carrying multi devices on you at all time.
With all the hacking / ports / tweaks going on just wanted to know if 30fps video record was possible. If you dont know how or dont know what im talking about please do reply with BS. Thanks.
hypersonicx said:
People trip me out some time with there smart remarks.
If you like carrying around multi devices good for you. I have a stand alone camera that does video record ect but my camera is not ALLWAYS on me.
The same way the Nexus is good for multi media such as mp3 / and watching videos but I dont go buy a PSP or ipod touch for that I use my phone. The point of the high end phones these days is to try to limit carrying multi devices on you at all time.
With all the hacking / ports / tweaks going on just wanted to know if 30fps video record was possible. If you dont know how or dont know what im talking about please do reply with BS. Thanks.
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i don't think he was in a bs kinda tone. hard to tell on forums
you'll thank yourself later for using a higher quality camera (dedicated camera) of any kind for videos one day. proud parent here, know whatcha mean about wanting to capture the cool 'new' moments.
now then, as far as recording, i'll bet there are settings you can change for it someday. right now the video quality is pretty darn good. just dumped a couple of videos from mine today. frame rate is quite good, picture clarity good, fps decent.
IF YOU FIND an app or way to up the settings, PLEASE update this thread in your original post.
Yeah, Im not trying to come off negative to anyone. I have a decent standalone camera that can take great pics and video a 10mpiexel cam with ful vga record. With phones tho its so MUCH MUCH MUCH more conveient to beable to snap a picture and have that picture allready able to send as MMS / Email / Up Load to facebook ect...
With the standalone camera I have to take mem card out - load to card reader - copy pics to mem card on my nexus - ect...
Just too many steps. When I had an iphone 3gs for a lmited time I was amazed at the video recording quality from a cell phone.
Now with the nexus with specs better then iphone I dont see why we cant get full 30fps at WVGA or VGA res. With 1ghz CPU and 5mpxl that should be possible right out the box. Seems like its definetly possible and im all for the ability to carry less devices.
it would be great if we could get 30 fps on the nexus. my under powered n97 does 30 fps and its video quality is a step up from my nexus for sure. kinda disappoints me that the video quality isn't just as good as my previous phones.
the moto droid (with lower specs) can do 30fps with some hacking... im sure its some setting in the rom that we can change
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-hacks/19647-increase-camera-video-quality.html
HTC Desire with similar hardware does 30fps.
I don't know if it's HW or SW limitation, though. Did anyone try to record video on Desire ROM and can verify the actual fps?
Well, the Desire ROM allows for WGVA recording. I do not know about all the fps stuff, but I do know that I am recording in WGVA.
You should be able to by modifying the camera driver in the kernel and the build.prop. I'll look into this when I have the time, but I found the line that should control frame rate. A commit says that not all cameras are stable at 30fps, but how's that ever stopped us?
ok here it goes, i am not a very techi person, but i pay attention to details, but i need to know if the sound quality is related to what rom I am running on my note.
If yes, which rom has the best quality output, and what software besides poweramp, will make a big difference in sound quality, and what settings do you use.
I flashed a few ics roms, and notcied that the sound quality became not as before, so is there any validation to my observation, but that is how i feel moving from one rom to another, listening to the same song on different roms, and noticing the sound quality.
I tried using DSP manager, and worked great with one rom, and not so great with another ics rom, but its difficult for me to analyze the whole sound quality thing, so I please need your help as for me music and sound quality is the most important aspect I look to get from a phone
hykhleif said:
ok here it goes, i am not a very techi person, but i pay attention to details, but i need to know if the sound quality is related to what rom I am running on my note.
If yes, which rom has the best quality output, and what software besides poweramp, will make a big difference in sound quality, and what settings do you use.
I flashed a few ics roms, and notcied that the sound quality became not as before, so is there any validation to my observation, but that is how i feel moving from one rom to another, listening to the same song on different roms, and noticing the sound quality.
I tried using DSP manager, and worked great with one rom, and not so great with another ics rom, but its difficult for me to analyze the whole sound quality thing, so I please need your help as for me music and sound quality is the most important aspect I look to get from a phone
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if i am not wrong... yes it depends on what ROM you are using.. i have used several Roms so far.. out of many ROMs out there the best i can say at the moment is CM 9 V1 from Imilika .. its smooth.. stable.. and sound quality is just great...
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In theroy it shouldnt matter. Hardware stays the same and drivers are the same unless tweaked drivers are used nit aware of thst in Gb roms
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sharan.mu said:
if i am not wrong... yes it depends on what ROM you are using.. i have used several Roms so far.. out of many ROMs out there the best i can say at the moment is CM 9 V1 from Imilika .. its smooth.. stable.. and sound quality is just great...
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not to bash cm9 v1 i found that the sound quality was not great, I had much better sound from other ics roms, I wish I could remember which one it was, but I can't as I flashed so many roms,
I really hope technical gurus could shed more light on the sound quality and its relation to roms
Well since the audio hardware is the same and so are the drivers I don't see how would the rom affect sound quality (which is pretty poor to begin with)
Supercurio could shed some light on this subject....
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Hello!
I was doing some video recording on my 4x, but I noticed that videos hove avarage only 22fps..
Is there any way to get better fps on our lg 4x?
I am on CM10.2, cm original kernel, I have tried few recommended apps for recording, but framerate is almost always 22fps.
Any ideas for camera app, kernel?
Thanks!
skrajnik said:
Hello!
I was doing some video recording on my 4x, but I noticed that videos hove avarage only 22fps..
Is there any way to get better fps on our lg 4x?
I am on CM10.2, cm original kernel, I have tried few recommended apps for recording, but framerate is almost always 22fps.
Any ideas for camera app, kernel?
Thanks!
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either go back to stock, or, i'm not sure if it works properly - try iodak's ported stock camera app; it should record at higher fps.
Ok, thanks, will try and report back...
Have tried suggested camera an it does record 1080p at approx. 30fps (mostly 27fps)..
But at very low birthrate (round 9000), so the video is not very high quality..
As soon I opened it I also noticed annoying focus bug..
So - is there any app / mod / hack, that has better quality and record at least 24fps? That works on CM 4.2
As far as I tested camera apps, best results are with snap camera (but only 22fps.. ) Maybe lg camera too..
First of all, Questions belong into the Q&A section (---> moved)
Now, to your Q, you can't get a higher framerate, as it is capped @30fps.
But I think i know how to "uncap" it, let me take a look at it tomorrow
laufersteppenwolf said:
First of all, Questions belong into the Q&A section (---> moved)
Now, to your Q, you can't get a higher framerate, as it is capped @30fps.
But I think i know how to "uncap" it, let me take a look at it tomorrow
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amazing , thats great, that would be a nice info. though me im fine with fps. the quality is what bothers me. it would be nice if it could get a higher definition too. faces must be close or they look "ugly"
edit: if we choose a latte fx its easier to notice the bad quality and what i mean.
Yeah, I agree, it would be great to have more fps and better bitrate..
I got 17mps on snap camera.. Could we get it on camera itself?
skrajnik said:
Yeah, I agree, it would be great to have more fps and better bitrate..
I got 17mps on snap camera.. Could we get it on camera itself?
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No, it can't be included into a camera app, as it is inside the system, and not inside an app
So it is possible to include/hack this into kernel or what?
Still haven`t found app, that would record at 30fps and had better bitrate..