http://miui-germany.de/forum2/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=1484&pageNo=1&4d7b5bcd
Seems there is a new Celebration HD out tonight...
2.0.2 beta.. are we hoping for a miui 1.8.7 and bug free?
Anyways... time will tell
Wow that was fast. I looked yesterday, and there it was first expected to arrive on sunday. Can't wait to get the new update on Celebration
Why do you open a new thread for this.. hope admin will delete this fast, so the forum did not have to much crappy threads..
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BikerBoy030 said:
Why do you open a new thread for this.. hope admin will delete this fast, so the forum did not have to much crappy threads..
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Sorry to have stepped on Your delicate toes!...
I'm kidding Your right.. its not the place for yet ANOTHER thread..
But do You agree we should have separate threads for Miuiandroid and Celebration HD?
Anyways.. Admin: I have copied the text to the other miui thread, so this can be deleted
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Sorry to have stepped on Your delicate toes!...
I'm kidding Your right.. its not the place for yet ANOTHER thread..
But do You agree we should have separate threads for Miuiandroid and Celebration HD?
Anyways.. Admin: I have copied the text to the other miui thread, so this can be deleted
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I think separation would be a good thing
CenaDK said:
I think separation would be a good thing
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Seperation would just be confusing.Not to mention there will be redundancy in posts.
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Seperation would just be confusing.Not to mention there will be redundancy in posts.
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It's 2 different ROMS or am I mistaken?
They are based on the same but with different tweaks. I think it's more confusing to seperate the post in the MIUI thread from each ROM.
But that's not my call to decide
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Seperation would just be confusing.Not to mention there will be redundancy in posts.
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I agree to the point where I think that until the official rom is released it should all be in the same thread because each of the roms is suffering from more or less the same bugs and having those same bugs talked about over multiple threads is gonna be confusing...
When the official one is out then the developers of each rom should be the only ones to start a thread for that particular rom because there will be support for it then... Just my opinion
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I agree to the point where I think that until the official rom is released it should all be in the same thread because each of the roms is suffering from more or less the same bugs and having those same bugs talked about over multiple threads is gonna be confusing...
When the official one is out then the developers of each rom should be the only ones to start a thread for that particular rom because there will be support for it then... Just my opinion
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I agree.Anyway now that we are getting weekly Beta's it wont be long till s stable version is also Released.However the thing is that the old thread where we all post..The title is incorrect and should be Changed.Other than that i see no reason to open dozens of threads stating the same things.
Dear all
I installed it and very love it. But I don't germany.
Have anyone can share the English pack for celebration Rom?
MANY THANKS.
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there is a load of crapware in the celebration HD releases and ugly themes 0.o why dont u keep it stock since you can edit it yourself...
Related
I just stumbled upon this over on droidforums and I'm pretty sure I haven't seen it posted here...
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/liberty-rom-dx/113246-rom-liberty-1-0-coming-soon.html
Maybe this is the ROM that kejar and JRummy were talking about a week or two ago.
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I just stumbled upon this over on droidforums and I'm pretty sure I haven't seen it posted here...
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/liberty-rom-dx/113246-rom-liberty-1-0-coming-soon.html
Maybe this is the ROM that kejar and JRummy were talking about a week or two ago.
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already posted that in another thread where we were naming it. not sure how its gonna be different from anything else out right now.
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already posted that in another thread where we were naming it. not sure how its gonna be different from anything else out right now.
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Oh, well I think it deserves its own thread, not lost on a random page somewhere in that thread.
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already posted that in another thread where we were naming it. not sure how its gonna be different from anything else out right now.
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Just speculating, but my guess is that it'll be a stable AOSP ROM.
Its a rom based on kejars framework and running jrummys scripts. Fast and customizable.
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Oh, well I think it deserves its own thread, not lost on a random page somewhere in that thread.
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It's not "lost" in another thread. As soon as it's released they'll post it here. There doesn't need to be a whole thread in the development section here on an upcoming rom unless the actual dev(s) of said rom start one.
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Hah really excited for this
I can't wait!
Rom now live ...Liberty is now loose
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Rom now live ...Liberty is now loose
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Couldn't help but laugh but as soon as Liberty came out, the Liberty Mutual commercial came on television. Weird timing.
guys i have talked to a miui admin and he told me they dont plan to release the rom on optimus black unless we show in a topic in their forums that a lot of people want this rom. he said we should get about 5000 people and because i believe thats insane , the only solution is to port it by our selves. And because i know nothing about developing i wish one of the devs here could port it for us.
Thats the only way to get miui on our optimus black
i know there are a lot of great devs here, we can see that by the variety of gr8 roms we have so far, if you combine ur knowlegde and skills you can make this happen
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guys i have talked to a miui admin and he told me they dont plan to release the rom on optimus black unless we show in a topic in their forums that a lot of people want this rom. he said we should get about 5000 people and because i believe thats insane , the only solution is to port it by our selves. And because i know nothing about developing i wish one of the devs here could port it for us.
Thats the only way to get miui on our optimus black
i know there are a lot of great devs here, we can see that by the variety of gr8 roms we have so far, if you combine ur knowlegde and skills you can make this happen
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Will check what I can do if i have time i'm having a ubuntu machine for making roms maybe i can help us out just a little
:s first the say that thet there will be a miui rom for op black and whe have voted and now the say that such ting never was.
Idont know if i need to believe it.
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I've read something else, they have a rom in development but no release is planned yet.
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:s first the say that thet there will be a miui rom for op black and whe have voted and now the say that such ting never was.
Idont know if i need to believe it.
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If u are talking about the poll in the French miui site, it was nothing. someone posted that just from curiosity it
wasn't valid
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I've read something else, they have a rom in development but no release is planned yet.
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Can I check the link?
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Can I check the link?
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why duplicate threads?
here is the same (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192797&highlight=miui) and probably effect will similar
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guys i have talked to a miui admin and he told me they dont plan to release the rom on optimus black unless we show in a topic in their forums that a lot of people want this rom. he said we should get about 5000 people and because i believe thats insane , the only solution is to port it by our selves. And because i know nothing about developing i wish one of the devs here could port it for us.
Thats the only way to get miui on our optimus black
i know there are a lot of great devs here, we can see that by the variety of gr8 roms we have so far, if you combine ur knowlegde and skills you can make this happen
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at least 5000 people? This is like asking for people to line up in a restaurant for food before the restaurant even there in the 1st place. F*** THIS, its not like our Optimus Black is not working.
I'll go there to show my support/input if I get to try it first.
Sorry for being rude, is just that the "MIUI on Black" has been brewing for so long and no delivery... and now their ADMIN asking for more traffic to their site to show for support? My patient is running very thin with this guys, just like when we was waiting for gingerbread from LG.
tyciuni said:
why duplicate threads?
here is the same (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192797&highlight=miui) and probably effect will similar
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That was an older thread and I felt like people have forgotten this issue, so I wanted to bring it up again so people remember and see it again
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at least 5000 people? This is like asking for people to line up in a restaurant for food before the restaurant even there in the 1st place. F*** THIS, its not like our Optimus Black is not working.
I'll go there to show my support/input if I get to try it first.
Sorry for being rude, is just that the "MIUI on Black" has been brewing for so long and no delivery... and now their ADMIN asking for more traffic to their site to show for support? My patient is running very thin with this guys, just like when we was waiting for gingerbread from LG.
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I totally agree with you, the admin actually said that I should get all these people registered at miui.com and I don't know if they wanted so many people in the past in order to make roms for optimus 2x, defy and etc
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I agree I had a Defy in the past and I was really surprised by how fast it got MIUI,CM7, CM9,etc But what I noticed is that Defy's forum is way much active than that of the Optimus Black
I remember someone was trying to port CM7 on the Defy for the first time. 6-7 months later, he became a dev member for CM7 for the Defy.
Starting from this, MIUI came, then KANGed MIUI, then CM9,etc
It's like there are less devs in OB forum than Defy.
I think that the more ROMs are developed for the OB, the more popularity the OB will get among other popular rom devs.
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guys i have talked to a miui admin and he told me they dont plan to release the rom on optimus black unless we show in a topic in their forums that a lot of people want this rom. he said we should get about 5000 people and because i believe thats insane , the only solution is to port it by our selves. And because i know nothing about developing i wish one of the devs here could port it for us.
Thats the only way to get miui on our optimus black
i know there are a lot of great devs here, we can see that by the variety of gr8 roms we have so far, if you combine ur knowlegde and skills you can make this happen
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I don't know who is your miui admin guy, but whether he's saying (bulls...t) lies,
whether this is an unofficial port :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23287415#post23287415
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I don't know who is your miui admin guy, but whether he's saying (bulls...t) lies,
whether this is an unofficial port :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23287415#post23287415
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+1
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I don't know who is your miui admin guy, but whether he's saying (bulls...t) lies,
whether this is an unofficial port :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23287415#post23287415
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lol that rom proved fake
im still in the game XD
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Hi all!
So... the PSX thread is finally closed... but I guess some of us will keep using it, right? So I thought that it would be interesting to create a user thread for this great ROM.
UPDATE: A brief FAQ for you.
Q: So, what happened to the thread?
A: The developer got (allegedly) tired of the slackness of the majority of the people posting in the development thread, i.e. repeating questions that were already answered, repeating requests about features that were already requested, complaints about bugs that were already reported and mostly app/user related, etc.
Q: No more PSX?
A: Incorrect. Development goes on and you can follow it here. I will try to update this post with the most important updates, as apparently some people can't access the new forum from restricted access networks (office).
Q: Can we get nightlies and stuff?
A: It's possible, head out to the PSX forum and read the rules. I will only post released versions here, as the developers clearly want access to the nightlies to be limited, and I wouldn't want to get banned from their forum, would I?
Rejoice! V3 is finally here!
Changelog and mirror thanks to @infiltrata
Updated source to AOSP 4.4.2
Added charging LED option
Completely redone kernel with custom hotplug
Option to hide battery symbol completely
Active Display
Extended options for Quiet Hours
Customized Lockscreen targets
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=10720
Hall of shame (Repeated question in this thread? You will get mentioned here):
Waiting for the first lucky winner
Cheers!
I was thinking to do the same... Thank you for the initiative
I hadn't logged in a week and read the bad news, sucks for us casual flashers. It would be awesome if they kept their androidfilehost updated and accessible to the public ...everybody wins.
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I was thinking to do the same... Thank you for the initiative
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Yes I think it makes sense!
Would be great if someone could follow ct's github and maybe build and share the releases...
On other news, I took the ART "plunge" this morning and so far I'm pretty happy with it! I lost about 1800 point in Quadrant, true, but battery life seems to have improved a lot! Don't know, maybe just placebo... I'll let it settle and try to give it some "normal" use and then I'll switch back to dalvik to compare... we'll see!
Oh and no compatibility issues so far. I was afraid that Carmageddon wouldn't work but it works perfectly with kitkat and art ^_^
Gone but not forgotten
I am a happy PSX user as a well. I tried catching up on all the issues but that was causing the problems but am still wondering since the thread is closed does that mean that CTFROMMN will never release any future updates or new Roms to us regular Joes? As a very new N4 owner I had only tried a few Roms but I have to say hands down, his latest work is the best that's out there right now. Its a shame if its the last one we will see.
I don't always post on XDA, I'm usually one of those who just lurk around and conduct experiments on their cellphone.
A few days ago I bought Nexus 4 after selling my old SGS2, and I tried several roms (both stock and non-stock), and the one that has actually caught my eye was PSX.
Smooth (even though Nexus 4 itself is smooth as hell), feature-rich, battery-friendly, and most importantly - bug free.
I don't know if ctfrommn is reading this (probably not), but just in case he does - you rock. You've made my experience with this device probably 10X better than with any other ROM.
I've read what you said on the official post and I agree that some people need to just shut the hell up and be thankful for what they get.
If you love something, keep on doing it, and let the nay sayers kiss your ass while doing it.
You did a great job on this ROM, and I'm sure a lot of people around here think so as well.
Thank you for your incredible work. I hope I'll get the chance to test and use your and your friends' creations in the future.
can some1 tell me what happened? my n4 is on lg service center, so i didnt check xda :/
^^^^ psx thread was all filled with posts like 'ohh i love this rom, this if do fast so smooth' and there were other posts all having complaints.1000's of posts like these..dev got tired of reading all those useless posts.. warned again and again but nobody listened.. No idea what happened yesterday but I'm sure that dev's mind should've snapped for sure after watching helplessly at the state of thread...
Anyways.. It shouldn't be a problem If There sources keep on getting updated.
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What happened? He just closed the thread or has the rom been discontinued?
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GFXi0N said:
What happened? He just closed the thread or has the rom been discontinued?
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He closed the thread, development will continue on a private forum.
That is really sad man...really really sad
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i can't believe now psx is a private thing... except someone from the inside can 'leak' it to us regular users...
sorry for my bad english
Wow, I just downloaded and flashed the latest mako Rom from PSX. It's upsetting to see they took that route, their rom is turning out to be my favorite.
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^ same. Just found it a couple days ago as the drama began. Shame.
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He closed the thread, development will continue on a private forum.
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Yes at least that's what he hinted at...
A thread can always be reopened, let's hope for the best!
Buuut I would much rather if this thread was used to report about problems/show off performance/etc of PSX instead of just feeling sorry about the other thread. For example, has any of you given a chance to ART? What did you think about it?
why is psx backing off
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why is psx backing off
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read some posts on the first page, I think someone answered that already.
Following silently as always!
Here's to hoping PSX is resurrected soon!
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why is psx backing off
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read some posts on the first page, I think someone answered that already.
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Hahaha yet people don't read n just ask questions... LOL this is reason
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Hahaha yet people don't read n just ask questions... LOL this is reason
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but who will find out an answer from a thread of thousands of posts......except the main post
This thread has been created to invite all Discussions, Q/A, Queries, etc about Cyanogenmod 11 released by NewMaclaw
for all Downloads, head over to this link >> DOWNLOADS
From his site, user reports bugs:
WiFi failes to start, must restart the phone
BLN not working
GSP work ONLY after reboot
When the phone wake up the touchscreen don’t work
Low incoming calls volume
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BTW, where is the thread of dev from Original Android Development ?
R_a_z_v_a_n said:
From his site, user reports bugs:
BTW, where is the thread of dev from Original Android Development ?
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there is no relation of this thread to dev section, lots of discussion, posts etc are being made about maclaw cm 11 so i thought there is nothing wrong in having a dedicated thread for the same, and of bugs people would report , you dont worry...
I wanted to test it. And surprise - I got no sound in received call 2 times. On third call I got voice of the one who was calling me...
Good thread
shut_down said:
I wanted to test it. And surprise - I got no sound in received call 2 times. On third call I got voice of the one who was calling me...
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People who think that MaclawStudio releases are "fully working" and "daily" are in for quite a disappointment. Cause truth be told, none of his "stable" releases are issue less. His original device, the S3 mini also has problems. There is a reason why the CM11 thread for the S3 mini has 3000+ posts on it. People have issues! If it were perfect, there would be nothing to talk about really.
Just my opinion.
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You were right, he always claim that all his rom are perfectly working even though still got bugs with it. He listed there no bug just to attract people to download from him so that he can make more money and i think this is also another reason he kept his sources closed.
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You were right, he always claim that all his rom are perfectly working even though still got bugs with it. He listed there no bug just to attract people to download from him so that he can make more money and i think this is also another reason he kept his sources closed.
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It's called marketing
whatwver you say, but its better and more functional than others as of now, and if you dont find it good for any reason dont download , simple amd straight , stop talking nonsense which is not required....
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whatwver you say, but its better and more functional than others as of now, and if you dont find it good for any reason dont download , simple amd straight , stop talking nonsense which is not required....
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Nonsense is that what I told? It is not written anywhere? I hate liars!!!
Only difference between TC and this is OMX.
How to use bluetooth 4? :laugh:
All the threads he puts [FULLY WORKING], but actually nothing works
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Nonsense is that what I told? It is not written anywhere? I hate liars!!!
Only difference between TC and this is OMX.
How to use bluetooth 4? :laugh:
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why are you wasting your time here if this is all of no use , you guys are complaining and bashing his work since start and see that never stopped many people to download and flash it and using it.....
if you are proving something wrong then prove the other part right first...there is no reason of arguing and spreading spam all over the section, stay away from it if you hate it simple......
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All the threads he puts [FULLY WORKING], but actually nothing works
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these things have been discusswd million times, will you please mind only what you do or say....?
people were posting about maclaw cm here and there many times thats why i created this thread , i didnt know this will create that mess again, so I REQUEST MODERATORS TO DELETE IT AND TAKE SOME ACTION ABOUT THESE FIGHTS AND COLDWARS IN ORDER TO KEEP COMMUNITY CLEAN AND IN HARMONY .....
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people were posting about maclaw cm here and there many times thats why i created this thread , i didnt know this will create that mess again, so I REQUEST MODERATORS TO DELETE IT AND TAKE SOME ACTION ABOUT THESE FIGHTS AND COLDWARS IN ORDER TO KEEP COMMUNITY CLEAN AND IN HARMONY .....
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Oh my god hahahahhaa
willi9070 said:
people were posting about maclaw cm here and there many times thats why i created this thread , i didnt know this will create that mess again, so I REQUEST MODERATORS TO DELETE IT AND TAKE SOME ACTION ABOUT THESE FIGHTS AND COLDWARS IN ORDER TO KEEP COMMUNITY CLEAN AND IN HARMONY .....
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LOL, and what about TC CM11 thread? There was a lot of nonsense...
But On topic - On MC CM11 I got no sound on receiving call. That is a fact. And this is discussion thread, to talk about bugs etc... I do not see what is wrong what I said. Or there is no democracy in Maclaw's world? :silly::silly::silly:
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people were posting about maclaw cm here and there many times thats why i created this thread , i didnt know this will create that mess again, so I REQUEST MODERATORS TO DELETE IT AND TAKE SOME ACTION ABOUT THESE FIGHTS AND COLDWARS IN ORDER TO KEEP COMMUNITY CLEAN AND IN HARMONY .....
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Dude relax. I was only making an observation. You need not go as far as deleting the thread.
I myself am going to install future releases from Maclaw to try them out and I will come here to discuss recurring problems.
Nobody wants to start another fight.
Although I find it quite weird that he hasn't created a thread on this forum for the release himself. Maybe he wants to stay away from all this. And i don't fault him for that. Liked or disliked that he is. Peace out.
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Oh my god hahahahhaa
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. i dont understand how the download count increased that much if your kind of haters or i should say pretending to be haters exists....
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Dude relax. I was only making an observation. You need not go as far as deleting the thread.
I myself am going to install future releases from Maclaw to try them out and I will come here to discuss recurring problems.
Nobody wants to start another fight.
Although I find it quite weird that he hasn't created a thread on this forum for the release himself. Maybe he wants to stay away from all this. And i don't fault him for that. Liked or disliked that he is. Peace out.
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yup, i apologize too if my post offended you, all i wanted to say is just he should not claim everything working for his rom, it is misleading. Alright. I'm out.
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Dude relax. I was only making an observation. You need not go as far as deleting the thread.
I myself am going to install future releases from Maclaw to try them out and I will come here to discuss recurring problems.
Nobody wants to start another fight.
Although I find it quite weird that he hasn't created a thread on this forum for the release himself. Maybe he wants to stay away from all this. And i don't fault him for that. Liked or disliked that he is. Peace out.
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you must have observed that i only created the thread , didnt start any fight or arguement, haters and spammers started this, now tell them to relax however i have told the moderator to take some action about this maclaw scene...
Just wondering if Cyanogen has created a ROM for this device (Galaxy Note 4)....
You've got to be a troll lol
Yes. I don't want to be that guy that tells you to use the search button, but I have to. Xda Admins are thread Nazis. Hopefully they don't give you to much crap. Here is the link. http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=trltetmo
Wow really
Persianhawkes said:
You've got to be a troll lol
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You have got to be racist. Lol
But thanks for your contribution.
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You have got to be racist. Lol
But thanks for your contribution.
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Just dumb
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Just dumb
Sent from the first Samsung Galaxy ever
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Lol. Score!
Oh boy...
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Oh boy...
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:good:
Simply looking at the development forum as well as the general forum would have answered this question. It does not even need search button. Someone has already linked you, ,but there is also a cyanogenmod remix that is based specially of cynogenmod...along with many many modification lol. If you are in doubt about a cynogenmod build, always check their download site http://download.cyanogenmod.org and search for the specific device, in this case trltetmo...but just incase here it is http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=trltetmo
I always say do not put yourself in situation where xda users will question your intelligence lol As mention as well, xda users are thread nazis....and they will give you a lot of crap lol
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Simply looking at the development forum as well as the general forum would have answered this question. It does not even need search button. Someone has already linked you, ,but there is also a cyanogenmod remix that is based specially of cynogenmod...along with many many modification lol. If you are in doubt about a cynogenmod build, always check their download site http://download.cyanogenmod.org and search for the specific device, in this case trltetmo...but just incase here it is http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=trltetmo
I always say do not put yourself in situation where xda users will question your intelligence lol As mention as well, xda users are thread nazis....and they will give you a lot of crap lol
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Only with morons who post the same question over and over thinking results will be different. I don't blame the members for flaming him. He is asking for it.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & GEAR S
Alright, I think you've all had your fun...closed due to ensuing nuclear flame war.