I've been doing a lot of reading regarding rooting the Nexus one and unlocking the bootloader etc. I wish not to unlock the bootloader at this stage (as you can't lock it again, and the fact that i'm gonna be playing around with my dad's phone and wouldnt want anything to happen to that)
Right now, the phone has stock 2.3.4 installed, which I believe needs to be downgraded to be rooted.
So I downloaded the FRG83 release.
Now is the following right/possible:
Flash the phone with FRG83 by going into the phone's recovery - so the phone is downgraded
Root the phone using the superoneclick method
Now the phone is rooted and I can flash it with any custom ROM eg, CyanogenMod 7 etc..?
Sorry if this has been covered earlier, however I tried my best to read as much as I could, however there were always a few more steps involved in the process which I thought could be left out
So would the above process be okay?
Thanks
You have to use the PASSIMG.ZIP method to downgrade.
I would just read the WIKI
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...des_&_Tutorials#Unroot_.2F_Restore_your_Nexus
Read the wiki. You said you been doing a lot of reading but still do not know how to root/downgrade from 2.3.4. That makes no sense.
The steps are there for a reason.
You don't know what you're doing but come to conclusion that you can skip/leave out steps. That is flat out stupid.
Thanks
Thanks baseballfanz Yeah I've read the wiki and I was going to use the PASSIMG method, hence downloaded the FRG83 file, but somewhere else I had read that you had to flash it to froyo then back upto gingerbread :/ hence was a bit confused.
The problem is there are too many threads about it. And there are a few tiny differences in all.
So I guess I have to flash down to froyo and then use superoneclick.
And after that, I can just flash any ROM from the forum?
Alubundy2010, mate I did read it all and understood it. However I still had a few questions. If you didnt wanna help, it would've been best to keep your mouth shut.
Thanks
It is clear you did not and still don't understand it.
Yeah probably not, hence why I posted asking for help in the first place. Just spent an hour trying to do it, but stuck at froyo for now till I do an official OTA update tmrw morning and have a stock unrooted phone, cus I honestly don't have the balls to brick my dad's phone. So not rooting till I'm 100% sure of what I'm doing.
Thanks a lot for all the amazing the help.
Wiki clearly says:
"Gingerbread 2.3.4 can be rooted only when downgraded to 2.3.3 or to Froyo, using PASSIMG method, which will wipe the phone"
And the link is given - landing you on the same page, a bit upwards. The link contains EVERYTHING needed to downgrade.
Moreover, the following sentence points you to a VERY simple guide, which says: when you downgrade, you root. Without any additional steps. And from that point you do whatever you want.
The main guideline of XDA should say - "if you don't know what you're doing - stay away from rooting until you do". Obviously you don't, and you don't seem willing to learn by reading the proper guides, even when pointed to.
And just to make sure you got it: you can't root the latest OS version. Which means, if you downgrade and wait for the OTA to upgrade you back to the latest version, you'll finish (again) without the ability to root, and this time also without the ability to downgrade. Not quite smart, yes? If you want to avoid unlocking the bootloader, that is.
Now that the phone is running froyo you can root.
You should also have gotten the ota notification basically as soon as the phone finished booting.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
I've read through
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939243
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...des_&_Tutorials#Unroot_.2F_Restore_your_Nexus
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636795
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705460
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1084978
think that's a fair few guides I've been through, and that's probably why I can't get it write cus I'm jumping from one page to another :|
Oh well thanks for the help guys, and I did actually do all the reading that was required.
Oh and I also rooted the phone when it was on Froyo through the manual superboot process.
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First post!
Hi guys, I'm making this thread after fiddling around with the search for a while because I don't know exactly what to search for to get the answers to the questions I need answered. If anyone could link me to a thread containing these answers, I'd be eternally grateful. Please don't be mad, I'm sure the regulars have answered these a thousand times.
I live in Brazil and got my N1 through an american friend.
1- Can I root a N1 running Froyo (FRF91)?
2- If I root my phone, will I have access to paid apps? Do I pay for them with my google account somehow?
3- Will rooting my N1 screw up my ability to call folks?
4- Is there any reason to root a froyo N1? (I've been told Cyanogen's mod of 2.1 was a billion times better than the default one, but I don't think there's a 2.2 build)
Again, Sorry if these were answered somewhere else. In that case, please link me and I'll be quiet
Edit - Ugh, there's a Q&A subforum. Way to go, me.
1. Yes, I'm sure you can, but maybe not yet with the method that doesn't unlock the bootloader.
2. Yes, with MarketEnabler. You pay with a Google Checkout account.
3. No.
4. When CyanogenMod 6 comes out, for sure. Right now I have CM5.08 (2.1) and Froyo FRF83 on my N1 and I prefer Froyo to be honest. But CM6 will have 720P recording and other cool stuff.
arkain123 said:
First post!
Hi guys, I'm making this thread after fiddling around with the search for a while because I don't know exactly what to search for to get the answers to the questions I need answered. If anyone could link me to a thread containing these answers, I'd be eternally grateful. Please don't be mad, I'm sure the regulars have answered these a thousand times.
I live in Brazil and got my N1 through an american friend.
1- Can I root a N1 running Froyo (FRF91)?
2- If I root my phone, will I have access to paid apps? Do I pay for them with my google account somehow?
3- Will rooting my N1 screw up my ability to call folks?
4- Is there any reason to root a froyo N1? (I've been told Cyanogen's mod of 2.1 was a billion times better than the default one, but I don't think there's a 2.2 build)
Again, Sorry if these were answered somewhere else. In that case, please link me and I'll be quiet
Edit - Ugh, there's a Q&A subforum. Way to go, me.
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1. you can but you may have to downgrade your rom using the PASSIMG.zip method
2. Yes, you can use google checkout
3. No
4. You can theme your phone, flash custom roms, block ads on your phone, use root enabled apps, etc
some good questions and answers here! gonna bookmark this
Thank you so much, guys.
flybyme said:
1. you can but you may have to downgrade your rom using the PASSIMG.zip method
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Can this method above be used without having having to cut the battery with a razerblade?
I want to root but without unlock bootloader to keep warranty intact.
Bjur said:
Can this method above be used without having having to cut the battery with a razerblade?
I want to root but without unlock bootloader to keep warranty intact.
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well imo cutting that small tab on the battery is very easy to do and in no way affects vital battery operation. its just a separate piece of plastic.
however, some members have managed to force their sdcard in without cutting the tab, but that may cause more damage than cutting the battery if something goes wrong.
you can also either get a spare battery that doesnt have the tab or a class 6 transcend 4gb microsd.
there arent to many viable options im afraid, but the piece you cut off the battery is not really even a part of the battery. i think its just there to ensure the sd remains secure during operation
Okay thanks for the elaborating answer. I have been considering root for a long time, but the thing that will make me root right away was if FM was working, and perhaps 720p, but with the new Froyo I haven't seen arguments that should make me use costum rom yet, but if there's someone that can tell me otherwise, I would like to know
I hv been thinking about rooting for long time as well.
Currently I m on FRF91 stock, I hv read the posts in dev section and it seems the only way now is to downgrade first then upgrade afterwards. And there are so many different combination of kernels, tools, etc. which bloated my head. And in different tutorials I read ppl facing different issues. Cutting the plastic part of the battery is another obstacle (for my mind) to overcome. In some tutorials, however, I don't see this particular step as necessary, e.g.:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710351
So for now, I will keep reading and probably wait for a new tutorial for rooting stock frf91 without touching the bootlocker, and without issues...
lou2s said:
I hv been thinking about rooting for long time as well.
Currently I m on FRF91 stock, I hv read the posts in dev section and it seems the only way now is to downgrade first then upgrade afterwards. And there are so many different combination of kernels, tools, etc. which bloated my head. And in different tutorials I read ppl facing different issues. Cutting the plastic part of the battery is another obstacle (for my mind) to overcome. In some tutorials, however, I don't see this particular step as necessary, e.g.:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710351
So for now, I will keep reading and probably wait for a new tutorial for rooting stock frf91 without touching the bootlocker, and without issues...
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Well you can avoid cutting the battery if you can see your phone through ADB while in recovery. That is the most difficult part of the whole process. The rest of it is easy and takes less than 2 minutes.
If your phone shows up in adb while in recovery, your pretty much good to go. As for rooting, you really dont need to mess with any kernels or roms. You can stay stock and rooted. Thats what ive done (though i plan on moving to other roms soon enough)
The workarounds and problems for the root method without unlocking bootloader all stem from seeing your phone in recovery and the SD is what plays the major role. All other problems are because of circumstances of people not following directions or flukes.
So according to the sticky: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710842
The very 1st step is:
- Extract the files within "ROOT_FRF83.zip" into the "tools" directory of the extracted SDK package
While I m already on FRF91, this sounds like I m going to push something older to my phone. Am I correct?
(I stay in this thread for a reason, I m a noob in rooting )
Thanks!
well, i updated a stock european rom (EPF30)
unlocked the bootloader and was rooted. Glad
after downgrading to firmware ERD79 still rootacces
then i received by OTA build FRF91
installed without problems.
butt, no rootacces now.
searched for a working superboot for FRF91. No succes at the moment
For me it is not clear how to get full acces. ?
flybyme said:
well imo cutting that small tab on the battery is very easy to do and in no way affects vital battery operation. its just a separate piece of plastic.
however, some members have managed to force their sdcard in without cutting the tab, but that may cause more damage than cutting the battery if something goes wrong.
you can also either get a spare battery that doesnt have the tab or a class 6 transcend 4gb microsd.
there arent to many viable options im afraid, but the piece you cut off the battery is not really even a part of the battery. i think its just there to ensure the sd remains secure during operation
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I cut my battery to root my phone, and the amount you have to remove is really negligible. I don't think it even makes a difference to the security of fit of the SD card. I can get the card in, but I can't get it out with the battery in
lou2s said:
So according to the sticky: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710842
The very 1st step is:
- Extract the files within "ROOT_FRF83.zip" into the "tools" directory of the extracted SDK package
While I m already on FRF91, this sounds like I m going to push something older to my phone. Am I correct?
(I stay in this thread for a reason, I m a noob in rooting )
Thanks!
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As the requirements for that guide state, you must have an N1 at FRF85B or lower. It doesn't work on FRF91.
- Stuck on FRF91? Use THIS to downgrade to EPE76, then use my links to upgrade to FRF85B, FRF83, or FRF72 to complete the process.
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Can u root a g1 with super one click application on the computer?
Sent from my x10a flashed 2.1 Brazilian firmware with multitouch xda download Rooted
The G1 is so incredibly easy to root, it takes about 5 minutes. Using an application for it is just plain lazy haha.
aussiehairspray said:
The G1 is so incredibly easy to root, it takes about 5 minutes. Using an application for it is just plain lazy haha.
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Sorry I have the same question as the first user, but didn't understand your answer...
he's saying you can, but it's the lazy way... the g1 is so easy to root, plus if you root it the traditional way it gives you a little better of an understanding on how things work behind the OS
so if you want to try it, go ahead but im not 100% sure if it works...
Ooooor if you want to grow some fuzz on your balls than try following this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098899
I am glad I did my first root using the RC29 methods, where they left a shell connected to the keyboard, as it is good background for someone who likes to tweak their phone directly from the OS level, instead of having someone else write a script to do it all with "one-click". Cyanogen's Dream root how-to is fairly good also, just stop reading any of them after you get recovery flashed, as the info you'll find here is much more up to date, with newer SPL and radios which you will need for most of the recent ROM builds.
Read this thread too, on ensuring you have a good match of radio/SPL/recovery flashed so you don't get a brick. (i.e., SPL 1.33.2003 seems to be good with 1.x and 2.x radios, and 1.33.2005 for 2.x or 3.x radio)
That being said, by the time I got to rooting my third phone, I did build a goldcard to flash whatever I wanted, just to save some time, but I usually don't care to save anything from the phone, so a full wipe is OK for me.
If you think you are ready to start flashing things, start over and read all of it again. It may not be as expensive anymore to make a mistake and brick your Dream, but it would still be very sad to turn a working phone into a paperweight because of missing a step, or doing something in the wrong order.
Hi there, i bought recently Nexus One. As I discovered it is Vodafone version of N1. So as You guys know im stuck on Android 2.2.1. I would like to go stright to Gingerbread or CM7. And here is my question. (i know i could serch the forums for answers but many can be outdated or i just dont understand something). You guys are pro's so you will find solution for me maybe in seconds, where i will be serching this for hours.
Ok, questions:
- Can i root my phone using a oneclick? (If i will go fot CM7)
- If i would like to go for offical, stock updates, can i use PASSIMG method from wiki? So then i shuld just download downgrade (FRG33 as i remeber) and, step by step upgrade it to gingerbread, or i must do something before it ?(like downgrading to shipping version, mentioned at wiki before passimg method, im a bit confused). Will i get updates then from google and i wil be mo longer depended to Vodafone?
I will be grateful if You will answer my questions or just dp some quick guide. And sorry for my horrible grammar.
Yes, I also bought a Nexus One with a non standard ROM. Like you said you can use the PASSIMG method to downgrade to a stock froyo ROM (i.e. FRG33) and you will be able to then upgrade OTA stait to 2.3.4.
Best to do some research so that you understand all the ins and outs. Check the wiki.
As Dirk said, the best place to start doing your research is on the WiKi. After you have enough information to ask more specific and focused questions, then we will be able to help you a bit better.
PS. I would recommend just using the standard fastboot OEM unlock method of device unlocking and something better than stock such as CyanogenMod since you're new to the phone. You won't be able to relock the bootloader, but if you're not returning it, that's not an issue.
The answers are:
- Yes.
- Yes, no, yes.
I have an ATT Captivate which I managed to update from original Android 2.1 to 2.2 firmware, version I897UCJI6.
This was before ATT release their official 2.2 update.
I also managed to unlock the phone.
I have to admit I am totally ignorant of this stuff, and I was lucky enough not to brick my phone during those updates.
I am very unhappy with the battery life of my phone, and I read that the Gingerbread dramatically improves this aspect.
So, shall I upgrade to Gingerbread?
If yes, I am confused with the many sites which offer advice with how to do this, some contradicting with others. (One indicated to reverse back to 2.1 before upgrading to 2.3, other didn't say that, etc etc)
Should this upgrade be successfull, what happens to the lock/unlock status?
Do I need to unlock again?
Which is a trusted site?
Any advice?
Thank you for any help
UnLock stays after flashing.
As for a trusted site.... Ummm you found it. Xda...
Thank you
Will this upgrade really improve battery life?
If not I'll stay with 2.2
I got Max of 18 or so hours on froyo, I can go over 2 days now. Ymmv though.
Thanks again
I assume this would be the thread to follow, right ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233620
Which indicates the use of this file : I897UCKH3_noboot.tar.md5 (dated 8/24/2011, 305191 KB)
I did find another file somewhere, presumably doing the same thing - that file name is:
I897UCKH3_HOME.tar.md5 (dated 8/19/2011 298421 KB)
I stated before I am kind of ignorant, and easily confused with all those information.
Which one is the right file?
Am I on the right track?
If you going to use KH3 without bootloaders you need to flash This bootloaders first.
Is there a thread for novices, where all those terms are explained, or where the procedures to be followed are explained for somebody who who can follow indicated steps (without really knowing the meaning of all those terms) which could lead to 100% success?
I don't mind reading a little, but I don't have time to become an expert (and I'm sure many readers here are like me, looking for plain simple advice on how to upgrade their phones, without having the skills and knowledge to do it)
Reading those posts here can be sooo confusing...
Somebody recommends you to do this, somebody recommends you to do that, and the poor you have no clue what they're talking about...
Simple if you want Gingerbread you need new bootloaders (except Cyanogenmod and MIUI). Bootloaders are like the BIOS in your computer. If you mess up the bootloaders you can hardbrick your phone.
Got it
Next logical question would be WHY the person who indicated how to upgrade to Gingerbread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233620) did not tell in his post that you need new bootloaders.
Or at least I do not see that in his post.
Which means that a novice like me can ruin his/her phone very easy..
No bootloader ODIN packages are made for people that already have the GB bootloaders. So you don't get a hard brick.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232703
I believe this is what you want to use.
mirceani said:
Got it
Next logical question would be WHY the person who indicated how to upgrade to Gingerbread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233620) did not tell in his post that you need new bootloaders.
Or at least I do not see that in his post.
Which means that a novice like me can ruin his/her phone very easy..
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Flashing a GB ROM without GB bootloaders won't ruin your phone. May cause a bootloop, but not a hard brick. Cezar is super picky about things being safe. If you had hit the link he had for tips and tricks, it says something about bootloaders.
After reading all related posts, I am still confused - pls help:
I understand that if I follow Cesar's link, I need bootloaders first.
If I follow Przekret's link, I do NOT need bootloadres first (they are included)
So how do I decide which route to follow ? In the end I get the same result, GB 2.3.4 - correct?
I am currently on Froyo, UCJI6, rooted and unlocked.
Do I loose my rooting (I understand that unlocking stays)
Again, which method should I use (Cesar or Przekret) ?
Thank you
If you need bootloaders, don't use Cezars.
As these are stock roms, you will lose root. But if you flash any custom ROM, it should be rooted.
No method is incorrect. I would flash Bootloaders firs because there seems to be less chance to hard brick (I've noticed sometimes ODIN doesn't flash one bootloader after another). Thats my personal experience, but like I said neither of the methods are incorrect, I just never used the one with bootloaders included since I already had them when KH3 came out, so I can't speak for that package myself.
How do I know if I need bootloaders or not?
Unless you bought that phone modded with the GB bootloaders you need them. No real way to know except flashing a GB rom like cezars package. If it works You didn't need them, If it din't work then you soft bricked your phone and you might need a jig to get in to Download mode again.
mrhaley30705 said:
If you need bootloaders, don't use Cezars.
As these are stock roms, you will lose root. But if you flash any custom ROM, it should be rooted.
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sorry for my ignorance, what is a "stock rom" and what is a "custom ROM" ?
prbassplayer said:
Unless you bought that phone modded with the GB bootloaders you need them. No real way to know except flashing a GB rom like cezars package. If it works You didn't need them, If it din't work then you soft bricked your phone and you might need a jig to get in to Download mode again.
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OK
since I bought the phone from ATT a year ago, running 2.1, I would assume that I do NOT have them, so I do need them
mirceani said:
sorry for my ignorance, what is a "stock rom" and what is a "custom ROM" ?
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A stock rom is that package that Cezare and pretzel posted. A custom rom is Fusion V, Pinnacle, Fasty II, among many many other. All those are based on the stock KH3 that cezar and prertzel posted
Hello XDA forums! I am looking for someone to point me in the right direction while I try to upgrade my Bionic. I am not super savvy with this phone at the moment. I bought it right when it came out and rooted it as soon as there was a way to do so. I am running the stock rom. Other important info(at least I think so):
System version: 5.5.886
Android version: 2.3.4
Kernel version: 2.6.35.7
Build number: 5.5.1
So thats what I'm running rooted. I upgraded to this point, I believe using an update.zip to keep the root I had on the phone. My phone has been yelling at me for weeks now to upgrade to 5.5.893. I have been lazy and did not want to deal with setting up my interface again, BUT its time I dealt with this.
I'm looking for someone to tell me how I should upgrade unofficially keeping the root in the process or just updating officially and then rerooting. I am able to pick up on these processes so even just links to the right threads would be very helpful.
Before you do anything with the update, use the forever root so you don't lose root. I don't have the link but its not hard to find.
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using XDA App
Hi. Take the OTA to 893. You will likely lose root in the process, but that's ok. Next follow the step-by-step noob guide that you'll find in the general section.
Thank you! Yes I was pretty sure I was going to want to do this at some point. But I am currently rooted. Should I really do it now?
Okay so I think I'm going to upgrade via OTA and then follow the noob guide. So easy. I surfed other forums in the past and quickly decided this was the best one so I came here first! 20 minutes later I know what to do. Thanks!
the guide I was referring to is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455888
I wrote the guide based on my experience, and my friend's experience with our bionics. If you follow directions it's really pretty straight forward.
Looks good thanks Tuckmobile.
One problem. My phone is failing the update. The last time I updated it was not through verizon. I'm assuming this is the problem. I'm also assuming it's not going to be an easy solution.
Edit: Another problem. I froze some apps using bloat freezer. I accidentally uninstalled bloat freezer. I can't reinstall it as it is not on the app market. I have a feeling I need to unfreeze apps if i want to update. Sigh....
Try the pathsaver tool. It should help you. The directions are not super clear so read carefully and I'm sure you can get it.
Yeah frozen apps are a problem. Let me know if pathsaver helps
Okay I do not have charged batteries atm and I have work soon so this will have to wait for tomorrow morning. But here is what I believe I should do.
First I will attempt pathsaver that I found on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433783
Then just do the Forever root that is in the noob section. Assuming the pathsaver works for me I should be on .893 rooted correct?(with of course the option to go to .901)