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I'm new to Android and tablets and have never had a smart phone. However, I am in the computer field and am relatively technical. At the very least, I'm intelligent and can follow clear directions.
Where I'm running into trouble is that, because this is all so new to me, I'm lost when reading a lot of these forums, because I have no idea what all these terms mean or what things are.
Here's where I'm at with my Nook Color. Got it a week ago, rooted it with AutoNooter 3.0, got ADB working (finally) over USB. YouTube works. Can get my email. Using Launcher Pro and Dolphin HD. That's about it.
I'm unclear about a few things, and I realize they're pretty basic. But I've searched and searched and can't find clear answers. Hopefully, someone here can help me:
1. How do I know what version of Android I've got on this thing. Nowhere can I find a place to see the version number. And the AutoNooter 3.0 page didn't tell me what version it installs. 2.2?
2. Does Flash work on this or not? This is related to question 1, because I need to at least know what Android version I'm using before I can even beging to search to figure out whether Flash works with it.
3. What is CM7?
4. I tried installing Flash101.apk with ADB, but get the message: INSTALL_FAILED_OLDER_SDK. Again, I'd like to know what this means, but what I've read says the Flash version is for an newer Android version. So, we're back to... what version of Android is on this thing?
As fas as the rest, does anyone know if there's anything out there that goes over basic terms for those of us completely new to Android and tablets/phones and rooting them? Much of the instructions I read refer to things I've never heard of and, when I try looking up those terms, I just get more terms I've never heard of.
Thanks!
1) You have 2.1 (Eclair)
2) No, you need 2.2. There are several options, including simply running it from an SD card or flashing it to memory (eMMC)
3) CM7 is andrioid 2.3. Good stuff, but still a work in progress.
4) See #2
Thanks very much for responding.
Regarding your answers:
1. Is there a place on the Nook where I can find this?
2. Can you recommend a link to a method for getting this? Is it an upgrade, or would I be completely re-rooting this thing and having to reconfigure everything?
Any suggestions on some basic information for newbies?
Thanks again!
Sorry, I don't think I understand the question. Could you specify what you mean by "this"? Thanks.
Sorry, not sure which question you're referring to.
1. This = The version currently running on it.
2. This = Version 2.2
I can't be certian since I have moved to a CM7 variant, but I think it might be under settings either about or device information.
If you rooted with Autonooter you are on Android 2.1 Eclair. If you are running a froyo rom you are on Android 2.2. If on a CM7 based Rom you are on gingerbread android 2.3
loribuono said:
I'm new to Android and tablets and have never had a smart phone. However, I am in the computer field and am relatively technical. At the very least, I'm intelligent and can follow clear directions.
Where I'm running into trouble is that, because this is all so new to me, I'm lost when reading a lot of these forums, because I have no idea what all these terms mean or what things are.
Here's where I'm at with my Nook Color. Got it a week ago, rooted it with AutoNooter 3.0, got ADB working (finally) over USB. YouTube works. Can get my email. Using Launcher Pro and Dolphin HD. That's about it.
I'm unclear about a few things, and I realize they're pretty basic. But I've searched and searched and can't find clear answers. Hopefully, someone here can help me:
1. How do I know what version of Android I've got on this thing. Nowhere can I find a place to see the version number. And the AutoNooter 3.0 page didn't tell me what version it installs. 2.2?
2. Does Flash work on this or not? This is related to question 1, because I need to at least know what Android version I'm using before I can even beging to search to figure out whether Flash works with it.
3. What is CM7?
4. I tried installing Flash101.apk with ADB, but get the message: INSTALL_FAILED_OLDER_SDK. Again, I'd like to know what this means, but what I've read says the Flash version is for an newer Android version. So, we're back to... what version of Android is on this thing?
As fas as the rest, does anyone know if there's anything out there that goes over basic terms for those of us completely new to Android and tablets/phones and rooting them? Much of the instructions I read refer to things I've never heard of and, when I try looking up those terms, I just get more terms I've never heard of.
Thanks!
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CM7 (Cyanogenmod 7) is a custom rom, which is a custom operating system that replaces your current one. If you are not familiar with Android yet or rooting, I would stick with autnooter for now. Phiremod beta 2 is a stable custom rom with flash, but you need clockwork recovery first to install it.
Yeah, checked those places Wile E, but didn't see it there. Thanks, though.
stelv, would that run off the card or internally? If it runs off the card, I could try it out without messing up what I've already got, right?
loribuono said:
stelv, would that run off the card or internally? If it runs off the card, I could try it out without messing up what I've already got, right?
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Most custom rom installs (phiremod) would erase what you have now completely. You would have to redownload programs and use the nook color app from market for books. You could use titanium backup to backup and restore apps. There is a thread here and on androidtablets.net for phiremod beta 2.
But there may be a version of froyo that runs off sdcard but I am not sure how stable that is. If you are running froyo from an sdcard and mess with the nook internally, it may mess your nook up when you remove the card and try to go back to your old setup.
The good thing with the beta 2 version of phiremod is that you can restore a previous version of the nook from the clockwork recovery menu if you have cwr installed. That is if you make a backup first through cwr on your autonooter version of nook.
If you decide to go the route of a custom rom I would check out the how to on androidtablets.net about clockworkmod recovery first.
sent from my rooted nook color
Thanks for all the info. When you say "custom roms," are you referring to any rooting of your Nook Color? Is the version of Android I have after running the AutoNooter 3.0 considered a custom rom? Or did I just merely strip off some of the "skin" Barnes & Noble has on there, 'cause it didn't seem very much like I'd started over, but more like I "got past" something that was already on there and, therefore, opened up more functionality. Does that make any sense? I'm getting the feeling that Nookie Froyo and CM7 completely wipe your Nook and give you a fresh OS. Yes?
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Thanks for all the info. When you say "custom roms," are you referring to any rooting of your Nook Color? Is the version of Android I have after running the AutoNooter 3.0 considered a custom rom? Or did I just merely strip off some of the "skin" Barnes & Noble has on there, 'cause it didn't seem very much like I'd started over, but more like I "got past" something that was already on there and, therefore, opened up more functionality. Does that make any sense? I'm getting the feeling that Nookie Froyo and CM7 completely wipe your Nook and give you a fresh OS. Yes?
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Ok here is another long book by me, sorry for the long posts
Yes, Nookie Froyo, CM7, Phiremod give you an entirely new OS.
Custom roms are not any rooting. They are entirely different android operating systems so to speak. Most require one to wipe the devices internal Rom (Read Only Memory) in order to put a new one on. This is sort of risky as it erases everything, but is made less risky by using stable custom roms in combo with clockwork recovery. If the internal memory gets messed up and the procedures for instaling a custom rom are not followed or an error happens, your device will be unusable until fixed (fixed usually by booting CWR off sdcard and installing a stock image). Please do research and ask around XDA or androidtablets before installing a custom rom to know what the ups and downs of it are.
Also please keep in mind on the Nook certain Roms like CM7 require a different version of CWR and require a workaround to work as of now. It can be kind of tricky to install. Phiremod Beta2 can be installed through normal recovery. Check us out over at http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/nook/ if you want. There are a lot of useful guides over there.
Yes autonooter just opens up functionality
Autonooter is not a custom Rom. It is just the method of rooting or unlocking your android device. Rooting an Android device makes you system administrator of the device. This is so you can do things beyond what B&N lets you do with the device like use the Android market.
This is what I did with my Nook. Autnootered it>installed Clockwork Recovery>Made a backup with Clockwork Recovery>Then Installed Phiremod beta2 through clockwork recovery as per the instructions for that rom
Thanks again for this. I appreciate you taking the time to explain this to a newbie. It's beginning to make much more sense now. For now, I'll stick with what I've got, keep reading and then go from there.
Ugh. Authentication error while reading a book and then a reset, and I'm back to the beginning. Except worse, because even navigation while reading a book doesn't work right. Anyone experience this?
Sorry I don't have that issues so I am not sure. Maybe its a password issue?
Perhaps. Don't know. Starting over from scratch. All I know is that it happened when I was merely reading a book, about ten minutes after trying to login to Google Talk with a different Google account than the one I used during the AutoNooter process.
Who knows...
can anybody tell me that can you or can you not install two operating system on samsung galaxy s like in computer cause i want to use custom ROM and default os.
I don't think it's possible at the moment, but it would be pretty awesome if it was.
The only thing I can see this benefiting is someone who wants to have a development rom on their phone, but still having a stable rom that they can use for their daily rom. That and flashing would be an issue unless cement or Odin could be made to recognise multiple system partitions so they could segregate the two roms.
The only way I think it could work is if there was a master boot record that could direct the system to the correct partition when the user selected the rom that they wanted to load at boot.
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2 OS on the phone makes some sense imho.
I also thought about having some dual-boot with some beta-alpha-status custom rom (like CM7) and something stable to go back to.
But this will most likely never work with odin, as it expects a more or less fixed partition-table, I think (it uses pit-files to change it).
This would be the responsibility of the bootloader, and all custom roms use the original bootloader provided by Samsung.
I just use CWM nandroid backup now, if I want to go back to some previous state.
Installing CWM is not that big a deal even after recovering from a "soft brick" (non-working boot/recovery).
i think in time it will be available, They sell dual boot phones on ebay.
they are cheaply made chinese phones, so with the right team and the right know-how i think it could well be made on SGS (what do i know - im no developer)
but if the chinks can make it, im sure we could (by 'WE' i mean someone else not me lol)
anyway the chinese phones on ebay can boot both android 2.2 and windows 6, i would not like windows but maybe 2 different versions of android, perhaps stock + custom, that would be nice
EDIT: i found a simpler way - you get 2 SGS's glue them back to back and a simple flip turns you into another OS im so smart
Hi all, in a couple of days time I will be receiving my first ever Android device, the Motorola Milestone. I've already done some research on the phone as well as on Android itself, and understood most of the necessary basics. However, there are still many things I don't understand quite yet, and would like some help with clarifying them.
My first question is regarding the custom roms. I myself have been a long time user of Windows Mobile so I know most of the stuff that is relevant to Android as well. From what I know, the bootloader on the Milestone is still locked, but people have found ways to load custom roms on it. Can someone link me to the guide on how to do this? Now before someone tell me to search on the forum or on Google (which I already have), I just want to point out that the ones I found seemed to be outdated, and that they're for older Android versions??
My 2nd question is, do custom roms like IceandFire or Froyomod come with their own custom kernels? Because I want to be able to overclock my phone, and if it comes installed with its own kernel then I don't want to risk bricking it by flashing another kernel on top of it......I hope that makes sense??
3rd question is, which rom is the best for speed and battery? I'm guessing it's IceandFire and it builds upon the latest CM7?
And lastly, are there any crucial apps that you guys recommend I should install, or any tweaks etc I should use?
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Hi all, in a couple of days time I will be receiving my first ever Android device, the Motorola Milestone. I've already done some research on the phone as well as on Android itself, and understood most of the necessary basics. However, there are still many things I don't understand quite yet, and would like some help with clarifying them.
My first question is regarding the custom roms. I myself have been a long time user of Windows Mobile so I know most of the stuff that is relevant to Android as well. From what I know, the bootloader on the Milestone is still locked, but people have found ways to load custom roms on it. Can someone link me to the guide on how to do this? Now before someone tell me to search on the forum or on Google (which I already have), I just want to point out that the ones I found seemed to be outdated, and that they're for older Android versions??
My 2nd question is, do custom roms like IceandFire or Froyomod come with their own custom kernels? Because I want to be able to overclock my phone, and if it comes installed with its own kernel then I don't want to risk bricking it by flashing another kernel on top of it......I hope that makes sense??
3rd question is, which rom is the best for speed and battery? I'm guessing it's IceandFire and it builds upon the latest CM7?
And lastly, are there any crucial apps that you guys recommend I should install, or any tweaks etc I should use?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983516
This is still the best way to get a custom ROM loaded up onto your phone. What you want to start with is flashing the vulnerable recovery from http://android.doshaska.net/rootable by using RSD Lite. To do so, you need to put the phone into Bootloader mode (power+Dpad-up) You can google RSD Lite, make sure you use the latest version along with the latest USB Driver version from Motorola.
RSD Lite is a very finicky program, if you have any errors flashing, your best bet would be to try this post: http://androidforums.com/droid-all-...hing-process-0x7100-rsd-lite.html#post1274587
Once you flash the VR (vulnerable recovery), you will want to put OpenRecovery on your SD Card. I recommend using OR 1.46 and placing FuFu's minimod on the SD Card as well. It will overwrite existing files in OR (look for it in Milestone Development). From here you can root the phone in OR (by using power+x, then camera+volume up) and reboot, backup all data you want saved, before flashing a ROM.
Once that is done, get the custom ROM that you want (I find speed + battery can be Cronos, CM7 or FroyoMOD for a Froyo ROM) and place it in OpenRecovery/updates. You will also want the most up-to-date version of Google Apps for Cronos or any Gingerbread ROM (except MIUI).
Gapps: http://goo-inside.me/gapps/gapps-gb-20110613-signed.zip
Now, turn the phone off, and put it into recovery mode (power+x, then camera+volume up), select apply update.zip and you are now into OpenRecovery.
Here is where you will flash your custom ROM and Gapps. Wipe both cache partition and dalvik cache, then wipe all data. Select Apply Update under Miscellaneous Menu and select the ROM you want. Once it is done, wipe both caches (not data) and flash Gapps. Wipe caches again. Finally, change the baseband to your country and reboot.
The first reboot will take a while, as the ROM is configuring itself for first time use.
That is how to flash a custom ROM and get started.
2- Custom kernels are not available for Milestone, as our bootloader is locked. Overclocking the phone is done through the 10overclock file in system/etc/init.d . All ROMs that I know of are overclock, most to 1GHz (from 550MHz). You will not be able to flash any kernels, and DO NOT try ROM Manager, it will temporarily brick your phone.
Crucial apps, I would say are Root Explorer, TitaniumBackup. Those are the two that are very useful for root users, if you flash multiple ROMs or need to access system files.
Hope this helped.
awesome, thanks for the reply mate!
Hmm 2 things i'm confused with. Isn't there an app called "Milestone Overclock" that lets u overclock without installing custom kernels?
Also, from what I know you need to have the bootloader unlocked in order to install custom roms. I already know that Motorola is still keeping the bootloader locked and that as of now, there isn't a way to unlock it. Then how come we can install custom roms?
Also, since you mentioned ROM Manager, I did a quick search and it seems to be able to manage multiple custom rom installs that you have. But then you said don't try it or it will brick the phone, so I don't understand whether I can install it or not?? Personally, I love testing out different roms as well as new builds. It would be nice to dual boot or choose between different roms to use. But i'm not sure whether I want to go forward with this since your comment implies to me that I shouldn't install Rom Manager?
Lastly, this is the part I found most confusing with Android (or with Windows Mobile as well). I found some guides that tells you to install Clockwork Recovery Mod or something like that. Some of them even mentioned using Nandroid or something. There seems to be different methods & tools/softwares for different devices (or even the same device) and it can be confusing to keep up with them. My question is, are there major differences between them? Which one is better and should I keep them up to date?
chaoscreater said:
awesome, thanks for the reply mate!
Hmm 2 things i'm confused with. Isn't there an app called "Milestone Overclock" that lets u overclock without installing custom kernels?
Also, from what I know you need to have the bootloader unlocked in order to install custom roms. I already know that Motorola is still keeping the bootloader locked and that as of now, there isn't a way to unlock it. Then how come we can install custom roms?
Also, since you mentioned ROM Manager, I did a quick search and it seems to be able to manage multiple custom rom installs that you have. But then you said don't try it or it will brick the phone, so I don't understand whether I can install it or not?? Personally, I love testing out different roms as well as new builds. It would be nice to dual boot or choose between different roms to use. But i'm not sure whether I want to go forward with this since your comment implies to me that I shouldn't install Rom Manager?
Lastly, this is the part I found most confusing with Android (or with Windows Mobile as well). I found some guides that tells you to install Clockwork Recovery Mod or something like that. Some of them even mentioned using Nandroid or something. There seems to be different methods & tools/softwares for different devices (or even the same device) and it can be confusing to keep up with them. My question is, are there major differences between them? Which one is better and should I keep them up to date?
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I have tried Milestone Overclock, but I never really used it to overclock the phone. I prefer changing the voltages and speeds with the 10overclock file. If you read the description of Milestone overclock, it "tricks" the kernel into thinking it's supposed to run at a certain speed.
ROM Manager and Clockwork Recovery Mod do not work on Milestone. The only recovery that works with the Milestone is OpenRecovery or Androidiani OpenRecovery. Unfortunately, the only way to flash the ROMs is through OR or AOR, so you will have to repeat the processes every single time. I have gotten used to where all of the options are for FuFu's Minimod, so I am able to do it quite efficiently
The best way to backup a ROM, system data and the such is by Nandroid backup. That is the only sort of backup that you can do. It is recommended to do one every time you flash a custom ROM, but I only did it after I rooted and before I flashed my first custom ROM. You can do it through OR. That is the only way that will work. CWM and ROM Manager will just temp brick the phone and you will have to reflash a stock SBF all over again.
i see.....in that case there's no way to install 2 different roms to allow dual booting then? What about the app "Boot Manager", will that work? I found it on this site here:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ted-user-should-know-about-part-4-apps-26-33/
One last question, I came across this popular app that is recommended by many Android users, called Apps2SD. My understanding to this is that by default, any apps/games that you install on your device will install to the internal memory, and that this Apps2SD app basically lets you install to your memory card? So my question is, does this lag the phone somehow? I like to have many apps and especially games installed on my phone, would doing this affect the performance or something? I know this is the case for Windows Mobile, but not sure about Android.....
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i see.....in that case there's no way to install 2 different roms to allow dual booting then? What about the app "Boot Manager", will that work? I found it on this site here:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ted-user-should-know-about-part-4-apps-26-33/
One last question, I came across this popular app that is recommended by many Android users, called Apps2SD. My understanding to this is that by default, any apps/games that you install on your device will install to the internal memory, and that this Apps2SD app basically lets you install to your memory card? So my question is, does this lag the phone somehow? I like to have many apps and especially games installed on my phone, would doing this affect the performance or something? I know this is the case for Windows Mobile, but not sure about Android.....
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I follow AndroidPolice as well. I don't know about Boot Manager, I heard about it, but I haven't heard any reviews of it yet.
Two things when it comes to phone storage and apps on the Milestone: Old hardware makes for a lot of games to not work at all, and low phone storage space.
Almost every ROM comes with apps2ext support, which is a more advanced version of Apps2SD. You can follow this tutorial here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10994672&postcount=226
Apps2ext will trick your phone into thinking space on the SD Card (the ext partition) is actually part of the phone's internal memory. You will be able to get a lot more apps on the phone this way.
Ahh cool, that saves me the trouble of me having to install an extra tweak.
Hmm I know Milestone is old, but not that old is it?? I don't know of any games now days that require heavy hardware specs or anything......i'm just hoping that emulators will work fine on it. I mean, my iPod Touch 3rd Gen only has about 120MB of free RAM, and the CPU is crap as hell and yet I could run GBA games like Pokemon or Golden Sun fine no problem (with sound of course). I'm hoping it'll at least work smoothly on the Milestone since I'll be attempting to overclock it to 1Ghz, which should run it significantly faster in theory.
BTW I found this great tweak for the CM7, here's the link:
http://chromloop.com/2011/07/how-to-make-cyanogenmod-7-for-milestone-a853-lighter-and-faster/
are there any ones similar to this? I'm a tweak junkie addict, I like to make my device run as smooth and as fast as possible. When I still had my HTC Touch Pro and Xperia X1, and even Nokia N900 (which uses Maemo 5), I tweaked the crap out of them and got more juice and power and made its performance so much better. I'm hoping I can at least do the same for the Milestone, except I couldn't seem to find many tweaks...
Oh lastly, I know one of the big problems with Android is fragmentation. There're already some apps out there in the Android market that are exclusive to certain Android versions. The same app has a version for Froyo (v2.2) and Gingerbread (v2.3). This is true for some of the mods or tweaks on XDA. So my question is, are custom roms like CM7 using Gingerbread? I'm guessing yes since it says 2.3.5? In that case, would I be able to simply install the latest mod/tweak or apps/games from XDA or the Android market? Or must I find the versions that is identical to mine?
E.g. if I install CM7, can I still install a mod that is for Froyo?
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Ahh cool, that saves me the trouble of me having to install an extra tweak.
Hmm I know Milestone is old, but not that old is it?? I don't know of any games now days that require heavy hardware specs or anything......i'm just hoping that emulators will work fine on it. I mean, my iPod Touch 3rd Gen only has about 120MB of free RAM, and the CPU is crap as hell and yet I could run GBA games like Pokemon or Golden Sun fine no problem (with sound of course). I'm hoping it'll at least work smoothly on the Milestone since I'll be attempting to overclock it to 1Ghz, which should run it significantly faster in theory.
BTW I found this great tweak for the CM7, here's the link:
http://chromloop.com/2011/07/how-to-make-cyanogenmod-7-for-milestone-a853-lighter-and-faster/
are there any ones similar to this? I'm a tweak junkie addict, I like to make my device run as smooth and as fast as possible. When I still had my HTC Touch Pro and Xperia X1, and even Nokia N900 (which uses Maemo 5), I tweaked the crap out of them and got more juice and power and made its performance so much better. I'm hoping I can at least do the same for the Milestone, except I couldn't seem to find many tweaks...
Oh lastly, I know one of the big problems with Android is fragmentation. There're already some apps out there in the Android market that are exclusive to certain Android versions. The same app has a version for Froyo (v2.2) and Gingerbread (v2.3). This is true for some of the mods or tweaks on XDA. So my question is, are custom roms like CM7 using Gingerbread? I'm guessing yes since it says 2.3.5? In that case, would I be able to simply install the latest mod/tweak or apps/games from XDA or the Android market? Or must I find the versions that is identical to mine?
E.g. if I install CM7, can I still install a mod that is for Froyo?
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Of course you still can. The best tweak for Milestone is under Android Hacking, it's zeppelinrox's supercharger script, which you run through Script Manager. That's the best you can get.
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I thought custom roms like CM7 or IceandFire come with the supercharger script included?
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I thought custom roms like CM7 or IceandFire come with the supercharger script included?
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Some do, such as HO!NO!, but not all of them do.
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Ok so I finally got my Milestone today!
I'm about to start rooting it and install CM7 on it. But before I do that, I have one important question. I know for Windows Mobile, almost all of the device requires you to do a hard reset after flashing a custom rom. I was wondering if the same needs to be applied to Android custom roms? Because it doesn't seem like it, I did a quick Google search and found this:
http://androidforums.com/optimus-v-...4-do-not-factory-reset-your-rooted-phone.html
So ya I'm not sure....
UPDATE:
Ok so I got my Milestone rooted, and installed CM7 on it. I came across a weird problem while doing it though. First of all, I'm using a 8GB Kingston microSD class 2, and it's brand new and hasn't been used before, so it obviously has nothing stored on it as it's empty to begin with. Ok, so as I followed the instructions, the first step is obviously rooting the Milestone, so I simply copied OpenRecovery to the memory card while my Milestone was connected to my PC. The weird thing is, when I opened "My Computer", I didn't see my memory card. Instead, I see "Milestone", so I opened it and then I see my memory card "Removeable Storage". I opened it again and here's the actual weird part, there're 2 files stored in it, called:
DevIcon
DevLogo
At first, I didn't think it was a problem because I thought they were just some dummy file or something. Also, the memory card is empty other than those 2 files. So after copying OpenRecovery to it and rooting it successfully, I then proceed to copy the CM7 custom rom file to the memory card. But this time, I still see the same thing. I don't see my OpenRecovery folder on it at all, there're no other files other than those 2 files on it. I tried Unmount and Mount in the SD Card settings, also unplugging my USB cable and re-plugging back in but it's the same. In fact, after 'Unmounting' the memory card, I couldn't even access it on "My Computer", as nothing shows up after I open "Milestone". Only 'Mounting' works, but again I only see those 2 files and nothing else.
HOWEVER, I then tried to take out the memory card and use my own microSD card reader, and bam I can see all the files on it, such as OpenRecovery and even the nanDroid backup that I made while following the instructions on that guide. So this is weird, why can't I access or see the contents on my memory card while the phone is connected to the PC??
I don't wanna create another topic for this since it's unnecessary, so here's my final question. In case something goes wrong in the future, what's the best way for me to revert back to stock?
I know I can use nandroid for this, but here's what i'm confused about. Nandroid makes a backup of the complete system, including the settings and apps installed correct? But what if you flash a custom rom, and then use a nandroid backup of the stock rom, will that still work? Or would you have to install the stock rom first for you to be able to use the nandroid backup?
Lastly, if the nandroid backup works regardless of whether you're using a different rom than the rom that the nandroid backup was made, then which option is better:
use nandroid to revert to stock, or using this guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11902513&postcount=7
Now I understand that for Milestone, custom roms are not actually flashed since the bootloader is locked. So would using nandroid be good enough?
chaoscreater said:
I don't wanna create another topic for this since it's unnecessary, so here's my final question. In case something goes wrong in the future, what's the best way for me to revert back to stock?
I know I can use nandroid for this, but here's what i'm confused about. Nandroid makes a backup of the complete system, including the settings and apps installed correct? But what if you flash a custom rom, and then use a nandroid backup of the stock rom, will that still work? Or would you have to install the stock rom first for you to be able to use the nandroid backup?
Lastly, if the nandroid backup works regardless of whether you're using a different rom than the rom that the nandroid backup was made, then which option is better:
use nandroid to revert to stock, or using this guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11902513&postcount=7
Now I understand that for Milestone, custom roms are not actually flashed since the bootloader is locked. So would using nandroid be good enough?
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The best way to revert to stock will be to flash an sbf for your region that will wipe everything. They have those sbf's on and-developers.
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Ahh I see, so in what situations will we be using nandroid to restore from the backup?
Also, the SBF file i'm using is from the guide that you linked me in your 2nd post. I'm using the EUROPE one because apparently it covers most of the countries around Europe, which includes New Zealand (where I live). I've had no problems with it, but just then I checked out the AND-Developers site like you suggested, and found this here:
http://and-developers.com/sbf:milestone221
It doesn't seem to have New Zealand but it does have Australia, which is like a neighbour to us. Will it be better if I flash the SBF to that instead?
Also, will flashing a SBF change the radio? Or does only changing the baseband change the radio? Because i'm getting weak signals from 2G/3G sometimes, and my Wifi has problems sometimes not being able to connect properly. Either that, or it shows that i'm connected but i'm not getting any data, apparently a lot of people have problems like this after I did some searching around.
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Ahh I see, so in what situations will we be using nandroid to restore from the backup?
Also, the SBF file i'm using is from the guide that you linked me in your 2nd post. I'm using the EUROPE one because apparently it covers most of the countries around Europe, which includes New Zealand (where I live). I've had no problems with it, but just then I checked out the AND-Developers site like you suggested, and found this here:
http://and-developers.com/sbf:milestone221
It doesn't seem to have New Zealand but it does have Australia, which is like a neighbour to us. Will it be better if I flash the SBF to that instead?
Also, will flashing a SBF change the radio? Or does only changing the baseband change the radio? Because i'm getting weak signals from 2G/3G sometimes, and my Wifi has problems sometimes not being able to connect properly. Either that, or it shows that i'm connected but i'm not getting any data, apparently a lot of people have problems like this after I did some searching around.
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1. when you're phone will not start anymore, it's good to have one before every new flash cause you never now what's gonna happen.
2. funny thing is i know where New Zealand is (not near Europe) . about the baseband ... yes every sbf has the region specific baseband 's (you cant flash a radio only change baseband 's).
baseband can be found on dexter's (http://dext3r.komodin.org/) page but they are already included in OR (not sure about fufu's). i can't be very precise because i don't remember.
custom rom's don't think they change baseband 's, (the .zip ones)
Ya ur right, NZ is not anywhere near Europe lol
but I did do some research on which SBF I needed before I flashed it, and I found out that the Europe SBF works for NZ as well, it was mentioned somewhere I can't remember.
About the baseband, I'm still a little bit confused. First off, I already know that you can change the baseband under OpenRecovery. The thing is, there are no options to change the baseband to New Zealand, so which one should I pick? Also, here's the part I'm confused about. You said that the baseband are region specific, and yet we can choose the baseband we want in OpenRecovery.
So since I flashed the SBF for Europe, what will happen if I then change the baseband to say Argentina (one of the options under OpenRecovery)? Will it crash or something?? I don't even know what baseband i'm using right now, I haven't changed anything, I only flashed the SBF for Europe and that's it. I can still go online using 2G/3G and txt no problem, but I'm just not sure if the baseband i'm using is suppose to be correct for New Zealand or not...
BTW just another side question (sorry I'm really new to the Android scene!):
I've found a few custom roms that doesn't use the current kernel we have for Milestone. As far as I know, the bootloader for Milestone is locked, therefore we can't properly flash a custom rom onto it, as well as replacing the kernel as well. So what I'm confused with is, if some of these custom roms don't use the current kernel on the system, then how does it work? Does it use its own kernel, and if so then shouldn't that replace the system's own kernel before it can be used??
Here's one of the custom rom topic where I read from, in case ur wondering:
This is the Froyo FRG22 image for our Milestone. but as this is not using the kernel, there are some limit to functions based on kernel requirement. But its close, and works great and is alot faster.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734802
The same goes for the custom roms. I don't understand how they can run on Milestone even though it's not properly flashed. Like some others have mentioned, the so-called "custom roms" that we have now are just a layer of image or skin on top of the stock rom. The weird thing is, it runs faster and most of the pre-installed stock apps that came with the stock rom are removed, thus giving us more space for internal storage. But how does this work if the custom roms haven't actually flashed onto our phone? Or did it overwrite/modify the files on the stock rom? If so, then isn't that just flashing onto the phone then?
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About the baseband
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changing baseband's that are not supported by your network op will lead to no signal whatsoever.. i don't remember if there is a problem with only data. try other baseband, in theory it will not crash anything, so do a nandroid backup before
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734802
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that is an old post from "25th July 2010, 05:52 AM" moto started to leak kernel from January 2011 give or take a month, so back then froyo was used with the eclair kernel. kernel from milestone was never changed to other than moto signed, only modules loaded at an early stage, thanks to kabaldan/nadlabak and other if exists
custom roms =
moto kernel
kernel modules (this helps on overclock , app2ext ... others)
mods to system files, apps
hope you understand cause i don't know if i make it clear at the end of the post
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The same goes for the custom roms. I don't understand how they can run on Milestone even though it's not properly flashed. Like some others have mentioned, the so-called "custom roms" that we have now are just a layer of image or skin on top of the stock rom. The weird thing is, it runs faster and most of the pre-installed stock apps that came with the stock rom are removed, thus giving us more space for internal storage. But how does this work if the custom roms haven't actually flashed onto our phone? Or did it overwrite/modify the files on the stock rom? If so, then isn't that just flashing onto the phone then?
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i doesn't make any sense, you will end up with no memory , only kernel remains, other things gets rewritten.
Code:
http://www.vodafone.co.nz/roaming/welcome-to-nz.jsp
this get out of what i know. with the frequencies,
basebands/frequency i have 900/1800
for data check if there is a problem with your apn settings
I see, thanks for your thorough explanation
Ya I know that changing my baseband will probably give me better signals, but I'm asking which one is best for Vodafone NZ because there isn't a baseband for New Zealand.
For the data part, were you talking about my wifi problem, and suggesting I check the APN settings? Don't worry that's been solved already. I flashed to the New Zealand v2.1 SBF and now it's working very stable. But like I said, after flashing to that I now have problems with connecting to my operator whenever I switch to 2G. However, 3G works fine so there's no problem with that.
BTW, I have another problem. After flashing to the New Zealand v2.1 SBF, I couldn't access my OpenRecovery anymore. I didn't delete or change any files on my memory card, so if I could access OpenRecovery and root my device as well as flash a custom rom when I was still on Froyo, then why can't I do it again when I flash to Eclair?
I *think* I know the reason, is it because it patched the vulnerable recovery or something? I think this is what I need to do to fix this:
http://android.doshaska.net/rootable
I haven't done it yet coz i'm busy these days, but i just need a confirmation so I know that it is indeed the case.
I *think* I know the reason, is it because it patched the vulnerable recovery or something? I think this is what I need to do to fix this:
http://android.doshaska.net/rootable
I haven't done it yet coz i'm busy these days, but i just need a confirmatio
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true story . it should say something about eocd marker and fail.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698059
For the data part, were you talking about my wifi problem, and suggesting I check the APN settings?
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sorry... i don't know, last night i thought i read something else, about working 3g and 2g not ..must be the skittles... to much rainbow
i suggest finding out what country baseband are similar to New Zealand and flash/apply that one )
Hey you can say im a noob i dont care i learn fast i had a iphone all the way up to 4g and jail broke them all. Im trying to jail break my phone
Baseband is I897UCKB2
Firmware 2.2
If i need to update to higher firmware will do so just give me instructions on what to do after it is updated i tend to learn quick at hacking.
Why don't you try reading a single sticky. That seems to be the logical start.
Yea the stickies have all the info you need to get started.
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@ OP, normally users here flash custom firmware made by other developers which also gives us root(jailbreak) etc etc. OR you can flash stock firmware and root it with fugu root.
you want to be careful playing with bootloaders though when updating to 2.3+, i advise you search a bit and read a little first.
Hi welcome to xda let's cover a couple basics: Jail breaking is for crapples. On Android you root...
Questions go in q&a not general
And ALWAYS SEARCH before starting a new thread, this phone is almost a year and a half old, all you need to know has been posted at least 5 times already...
^This lol.
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all you need to know has been posted at least 5 times already...
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I will say at least 10 times, lol
As a noob myself I understand the immediate overwhelming feeling you get when you see the wealth of information and possibilities on this site. I read everything I could find, soft-bricked my captivate a few dozen times, flashed dozens of ROMS and Kernel combos until I finally found something that worked for my unique needs. The information below is very basic and not intended as a guide. There may be some wording or errors but the general description of each item is accurate enough to get the point across.
Some basic things I learned to begin with:
Eclaire: Android Operating System 2.1.x
Froyo: Android Operating System 2.2.x
Gingerbread: Android Operating System 2.3.x
Root: Gives you full "Super User" rights to the device. As a super user you can browse, delete, change any folder or file on the device. It allows you to remove pre-installed programs that AT&T seems to think are too important to erase. It allows you to change system settings that were locked by the manufacturer. Without being rooted you are limited to using the operating system provided by the service provider as shipped.
Bootloaders: The initial starting point when a device is booted. The bootloader basically gets the device hardware powered up and starts the Kernel. From there the kernel loads the base operating system and starts the GUI for you. The bootloader is really the only item that will bite you when trying to change your device's operating system. If you try and flash it and something goes horribly wrong while it's loading it is possible to make the device unbootable for repairs. Bootloaders from a device running Eclaire or Froyo must be updated to Gingerbread in order to properly boot the Kernel. Interestingly, Gingerbread Bootloaders are backwards compatible and can be used on Eclaire or Froyo as well.
Kernel: In its basic sense, the kernel acts as the bridge between the device hardware and the chosen operating system. Custom kernels can open up many of the device's potential by allowing the CPU to be overclocked or the voltage levels to be adjusted for heat and performance. Many of the devices weaknesses can be tweaked around for better performance. On our devices there are a lot of custom kernels that allow you to overclock and can change the format of the system and data partitions to make them faster (lag fix). Kernels for the 2.1 -2.22 ROMS can make huge differences to the battery life and speed of the device. Developers must have the initial Source Code of the kernel to tweak many of the hardware functions and unfortunately, Samsung has not released any source code for our specific phones for any of the 2.3+ Roms.
CWM = Clockwork Mod. Clockwork mod is a Recovery menu that replaced the stock useless menu that comes on the device. It allows you to install new ROMS, updates, mods, etc... from the device itself. It would be like booting your PC in to DOS or an Linux box to a command line. You can either install CWM on a pre-rooted device or download a kernel that has already had CWM coded into the file. For instance, on the latest leaked 2.3.5 ROM for the I897 I took a rooted phone running a 2.2 ROM and installed the new operating system to it. It was unrooted. Boog cooked up a new kernel with CWM added. After installing the new kernel I booted up and my phone was rooted.
Root Explorer: File browsing software from the market that allows users of rooted devices to browse the entire file system of their device. Hidden and locked items are accessible and "changable". Use with caution.
Rom Manager: A downloaded program that can be used to install CWM on a rooted phone. It can also be used to locate and download roms that developers submit to their database. It also acts as a GUI to some of the minor functions of CWM in that once a ROM has been downloaded you can choose to install it and set some of the parameters for that installation up before it reboots to CWM and starts the install. I prefer to boot to CWM myself and install from there. Most would agree.
AOSP: Raw Android release from Google Developers. Device manufacturers take these AOSP releases and create their own device specific versions to be installed on their devices. Many custom ROMS are based on AOSP and are very popular. Cyanogen (CM7 currently) and MIUI are very popular versions of AOSP. Unfortunately, on our Captivates these AOSP based ROMS drain the battery much faster than on Samsung based ROMs. When an AOSP based ROM/Kernel is installed the phone must be flashed back to a stock Samsung ROM with Odin or Oneclick before a non-AOSP ROM can be installed. AOSP ROMS use a different partition setup and Samsung based ROMS will not run if installed directly on top of an AOSP Rom. Interestingly, MIUI can be installed via CWM directly on top of a Samsung ROM but not the other way around.
I9000 based ROMS: Many custom Gingerbread Roms are actually Roms built off of Roms that were originally for the Samsung I9000. They work well and can be tweaked and adjusted because the I9000 kernel source is available for developers. While they work great in most aspects they fail to utilize the full potential of the I897 because the I9000 has a different chipset. Audio quality, GPS lock and battery life can be problematic or degraded in these ROMS.
ODIN: Odin is a program for your Windows based PC that is used to install Roms, Kernels, bootloaders and features to your device. It can wipe your device and install an unrooted, clean, fresh stock operating system or canbe used to install custom Roms if the developer chooses to release it in an Odin package. Odin can be picky and unstable at times so limit bootloader flashing to the absolute minimum with this software. To use Odin you must get your phone in to Download mode.
Odin oneclick: A derivative of ODIN where the ROM or feature you are wanting to install is prepackaged into the ODIN program itself. There are no options or files to choose. You start the software, connect your phone in Download mode. Wait for Odin to recognize it then hit "Start".
TAR: Often referred to as a Tarball. Similar to ZIP or RAR. It is a linux based zip format for packaging programs and compressing them for download. When flashing anything with Odin you will download files with the TAR extension. Odin does not open files with Zip extensions.
Heimdall: Opensource program for Linux, MAC or PC that can be used like ODIN. Much more reliable.
APK: APK files are the individual programs for the device. When you download a file it will be *.APK. You can manually install an APK file on your device as long as you have enabled non-market APPs in the setting. Programs downloaded from the market are also in APK packages but are automatically installed when you download them.
Download mode: Base mode for the phone. Shows a yellow triangle with an android digging. This is used whenever you are connecting your device to the computer to load a new bootloader, kernel, update or ROM via Odin. If you completely ruin your operating system and think you have bricked your phone, you can reload it and start from scratch as long as you can get your phone in to download mode. To boot in to download mode on a Captivate you have to remove the battery and put it back in. Hold down both volume buttons while plugging in the usb. Some devices require you to hold vol-up or volume-down instead. Mine has always been both.
Recovery Mode: Simple text based mode where the kernel has booted but the operating system and GUI have not been loaded yet. The standard Recovery Mode menu is basic and allows you to reboot or install an update.zip file. On a rooted phone with CWM installed the recovery menu is much larger ith options to wipe the cache, adjust kernel settings (on custom kernels), install new roms or kernels, format SD card, Wipe phone, etc...
jbabbler said:
As a noob myself I understand the immediate overwhelming ... with CWM installed the recovery menu is much larger ith options to wipe the cache, adjust kernel settings (on custom kernels), install new roms or kernels, format SD card, Wipe phone, etc...
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As a follow up / additional information, check out the link in my signature (or the associated sticky). That has some more definitions and terms if you need them.
jmtheiss said:
As a follow up / additional information, check out the link in my signature (or the associated sticky). That has some more definitions and terms if you need them.
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mucho grassyass
The above made me lol
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Good day all.
Before I ask my questions I would like to say that In the few days I have been here I have been working on Understanding the Technical terms and Jargon this site uses ever so much, I have learned.
While the wiki (and these posts here) has helped a bit...I still find myself feeling a bit nauseous from what I have been currently been unable to understand so you might have to stand me being a noob for just a little bit longer I'm afraid.
Anywho...on to the questions...
I am aware the ROMs must match a given make and model of a phone to work and custom kernels must be matched to specific ROMs, but alot of these ROMs have really awesome features & improvements. Better Sound, DSP-equalizer, More efficient battery use, more function UIs, more control on security, SONY based Engines, CRT-Off Animations, ...why can't they all just work together?!?! So now I have to ask the crazy...
Is it possible to stack the features of different ROMs?
What is it I need to be looking for compatibility wise between all these ROMs/Themes/Apps/Kernels to make sure that I don't Clay or Brick the Note by combining the wrong codes?
I'm trying to figure out what I can do to mix and match intelligently to get the most out of a rooted note (as is... I suppose... all of you here).
On that...uh...note, I have seen a lot of talk about Titanium-backup App, Clockworkmod Recovery App & Nandroids.
Why do I need to use these to back up?
Why can't I just go into the phone & copy and paste all the files on a folder in the computer? Is it because Android is Linux based? Do not all the files show?
Should I have all these Backup Apps to back up every part of the Note or is just one enough?
Oh and one more thing... I Received my note today & a lot faster than I expected. So...
What would you recommend to be the smartest thing to do first after root?
Decisions Decisions.
Thank You
The most basic differentiating factor is to see if the ROMs are TouchWiz based or AOSP/CM/AOKP based, those are the main 2 categories that every ROM here falls under
Features from one category *mostly* can not be ported to other category if they are not present there. For example, S-Memo are exclusive to TouchWiz ROMs just like Tablet mode is exclusive to AOSP/CM/AOKP ROMs, but there might some rare exceptions
IMHO Titanium Backup is useful only if you have games data, normal apps I prefer to set them up manually to have the cleanest setup possible. Nandroids, OTOH, are essential, they are your safety net if anything goes wrong.
You can't back up an OS just by copying the files over cause you don't have access to the kernel and lower system files, that's where nandroids help
Hope this helps
matius44 said:
The most basic differentiating factor is to see if the ROMs are TouchWiz based or AOSP/CM/AOKP based, those are the main 2 categories that every ROM here falls under
Features from one category *mostly* can not be ported to other category if they are not present there. For example, S-Memo are exclusive to TouchWiz ROMs just like Tablet mode is exclusive to AOSP/CM/AOKP ROMs, but there might some rare exceptions
IMHO Titanium Backup is useful only if you have games data, normal apps I prefer to set them up manually to have the cleanest setup possible. Nandroids, OTOH, are essential, they are your safety net if anything goes wrong.
You can't back up an OS just by copying the files over cause you don't have access to the kernel and lower system files, that's where nandroids help
Hope this helps
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Oh! Right... I'm not just backing up apps... I'm backing Up the OS. Duh. Ok.
I was thinking about it the wrong way.
I know what a TouchWiz ROM is, and its good to know that Tablet mode is exclusive to AOSP/CM/AOKP ROMs, I didn't know that either. As I mentioned in my post... I'm still working on the Jargon here. What does "AOSP/CM/AOKP" Mean? Can I switch around features if I kept in those respective types of ROMs?
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Oh! Right... I'm not just backing up apps... I'm backing Up the OS. Duh. Ok.
I was thinking about it the wrong way.
I know what a TouchWiz ROM is, and its good to know that Tablet mode is exclusive to AOSP/CM/AOKP ROMs, I didn't know that either. As I mentioned in my post... I'm still working on the Jargon here. What does "AOSP/CM/AOKP" Mean? Can I switch around features if I kept in those respective types of ROMs?
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AOSP is "Android Open Source Project". That is just one kind of custom ROM. Also, several ROMs on here are built on "AOSP", meaning they use AOSP as a base and add "features" to it.
CM is "CyanogenMod". They are a very popular team that builds custom ROMs for different phones out there. Same thing applies, people will builld custom ROMs based on CM9 (which is Ice Cream Sandwich based) and add their own "features" to it. CM7 is Gingerbread based and not on the Note.
Also, read about the bricking situations, just to wrap your head around it and stay safe. Basically, just know right now that the only "safe" kernel is the CM9 kernel built by xplodwild OR the DAFUQ kernel built by Entropy.
The ICS sources have come out so we should see more kernels come out as the devs get their hands dirty.
I use Titantium Backup, personally, to back up my individual apps and such when I switch ROMs. Now, of course, if you restore apps, you might run into problems and you might need to wipe data again and start over and not restore apps. But, I RARELY have problems.
I hope all these details help!
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Oh! Right... I'm not just backing up apps... I'm backing Up the OS. Duh. Ok.
I was thinking about it the wrong way.
I know what a TouchWiz ROM is, and its good to know that Tablet mode is exclusive to AOSP/CM/AOKP ROMs, I didn't know that either. As I mentioned in my post... I'm still working on the Jargon here. What does "AOSP/CM/AOKP" Mean? Can I switch around features if I kept in those respective types of ROMs?
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AOSP = Android Open Source Project = Google's pure android
CM = CyanogenMod
AOKP = Android Open Kang Project
Features theoretically can be ported between these, but it requires hackery skills since mostly it's framework dependant
For example, AOKP is famous with its ROM Control option in Settings menu, this is not present in AOSP at all and some of it is present in CM9. If you have good knowledge in code you can port, not very easy task
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What would you recommend to be the smartest thing to do first after root?
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There are things that need to be done before the root. You need some basic tools to get into the business of flashing stuff.
1. PC Odin - that's a software for flashing firmware from your Windows. You can get it here. Top left hand corner of the first post.
2. Windows drivers - they are needed so your PC can recognize the phone once connect the two. Get it from the same URL, same place.
3. Mobile Odin Pro - basically does the same functions as PC Odin, but from your Note, not from the PC. Get the Lite version
if the Playstore doesn't let you buy the Pro one.
4. Titanium Backup - this is optional. I use it all the time with no trouble, but some prefer to re-install their apps manually after they switch to another Rom. Titanium allows you to backup all your apps and their data, and does a quick batch restore when you need it.
Now about the rooting matter.
I would recommend the following method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25285584&postcount=3
I think it is by far the easiest and quickest one.
After you are successfully rooted, come back here, report, and we'll take it from there, OK?
We won't be going anywhere.
P.S. If you get into bootloop after the PC Odin has finished the flash, don't panic, but read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26460335&postcount=4
chasmodo said:
There are things that need to be done before the root. You need some basic tools to get into the business of flashing stuff.
1. PC Odin - that's a software for flashing firmware from your Windows. You can get it here. Top left hand corner of the first post.
2. Windows drivers - they are needed so your PC can recognize the phone once connect the two. Get it from the same URL, same place.
3. Mobile Odin Pro - basically does the same functions as PC Odin, but from your Note, not from the PC. Get the Lite version
if the Playstore doesn't let you buy the Pro one.
4. Titanium Backup - this is optional. I use it all the time with no trouble, but some prefer to re-install their apps manually after they switch to another Rom. Titanium allows you to backup all your apps and their data, and does a quick batch restore when you need it.
Now about the rooting matter.
I would recommend the following method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25285584&postcount=3
I think it is by far the easiest and quickest one.
After you are successfully rooted, come back here, report, and we'll take it from there, OK?
We won't be going anywhere.
P.S. If you get into bootloop after the PC Odin has finished the flash, don't panic, but read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26460335&postcount=4
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I did all that Pre-Root stuff two days ago. ☜(ﾟヮﾟ☜) YEAAAA!
As for how the root went...so far so good. As such I've just been upgraded from noob to kiddie hacker. Yay me...I guess.
I also did go for Titanium-backup App & Clockwork mod Recovery App (Free). Could not find Nandroid.
I am currently on 2.3.6 GB.
With that said. Now comes the fun part(...right?)
If you have done just what cursed4eva did in his video, you are rooted, but still haven't got a proper CLockWorkMod Recovery for further flashing.
If that is the case, you need to go to Chainfire's kernel thread and download the matching CF-Root kernel. For instance, download CF-Root-SGN_XX_OXA_LC1-v5.3-CWM5.zip if you have flashed N7000XXLC1_N7000OXALC1 Open Europe.
You need to extract the kernel zip to get the tar file inside. Put that tar file on your SD card, start Mobile Odin, tap on 'kernel' option, navigate to the kernel tar and flash. The phone will reboot, MO will flash the kernel, and you'll have the fully functional CWMR you need for doing nandroid backups/restores and flashing custom Roms.
Sorry for the Delay. Micro-SD Card took longer to receive than expected.
I have gone in and put that matching LA# .tar file on Moble ODIN. At the risk of asking a question whose only answer can be "DUH!"...
To flash the Kernel (or any of the respective things Mobile ODIN can do) do I press "Flash Firmware"?
My Concern of Bricking > Risk of asking Stupid Obvious Question
Edit: Every single place I searched presses said button...so I guess that's a yes. >_<
Edit 2: Success!
So how are the names given? Is all I need to look for is just match random bits of the titles code to see if the two are compatible?
And with this done...I can now start with some of the fun stuff... right?