[Q] Who noticed big 4G speed increase after VS910ZV6 update? - LG Revolution

After this update, i did my routine SpeedTest run and noticed a huge increase in speeds. Before this i would rarely get anywhere near 15Mb/s, but now in some areas i can get get speeds of 40MB/s! Its finally as fast as my Thunderbolt was. Just wondering if anyone else noticed this?

Speedtest.net app?
Woah!!! Seriously??? 40 Mb (Megabits) per second, download???
Are you using the Speedtest.net app or through a phone Browser that allows desktop mode. Or are you tethered to a PC? Speedtest.net or Speakeasy? A different speedtest site?
I would try all of the above to somewhat confirm your speeds.
I only noticed that to certain servers in the speedtest.net app that it would actually go above 3.5 Mbps. My best through my app was 12Mbps only to one of the nearby servers. Through dolphin or opera browser (in desktop mode) the servers that would only go to 3.5 actually went to around 8Mbps. Also in general Speakeasy has been giving me faster speeds than speedtest.net.
I don't believe there was a change for my speeds except for in the speedtest.net app.

No way...... 40?

jackpot08 said:
No way...... 40?
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Exactly was I was thinking.

I'm using the ookla Speedtest.net app. I tried it in the browser, got 28MB/s, that's with a server that was way far away from my location. Cant test while tethering, i have no root.
Surprisingly i was able to take a screenshot even after the update broke my root.
51MB/s top speed

adrenaline_rush said:
I'm using the ookla Speedtest.net app. I tried it in the browser, got 28MB/s, that's with a server that was way far away from my location. Cant test while tethering, i have no root.
Surprisingly i was able to take a screenshot even after the update broke my root.
51MB/s top speed
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Completely non-contributory comment but...
holy crap balls.....I want those speeds! where are you located and distance from tower?

And 13Mbps up.... THATS CRAZY!
Sent from my VS910 4G using XDA App

Running the new rom that has the update in it. Revolt Rom 1.0
Not seeing any increase whatsoever in speed, perhaps maybe even a bit slower. But that may have something to do with the really bad weather here in Rochester, it's affected data in the past.

nick99wj said:
Completely non-contributory comment but...
holy crap balls.....I want those speeds! where are you located and distance from tower?
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Spokane Wa, about 2 miles from the airport. That place is the fastest, it consistently pulls 40mb/s down, other places in town around 20-30 down. I actually can't see the tower bit it is full bars.
Yeah the look on my iPhone toting friend's faces is priceless when I show them how the speedtest app maxes out the gauge.

adrenaline_rush said:
I'm using the ookla Speedtest.net app. I tried it in the browser, got 28MB/s, that's with a server that was way far away from my location. Cant test while tethering, i have no root.
Surprisingly i was able to take a screenshot even after the update broke my root.
51MB/s top speed
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PDA NET app is available in the market again, if you are interested in USB Tethering to a PC or Mac.

Screen Shot It.
adrenaline_rush said:
I'm using the ookla Speedtest.net app. I tried it in the browser, got 28MB/s, that's with a server that was way far away from my location. Cant test while tethering, i have no root.
Surprisingly i was able to take a screenshot even after the update broke my root.
51MB/s top speed
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I found this screen shot app that works with the LG REVO non-rooted. Screen Shot It.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.edwardkim.android.screenshotitfree

He did screenshot it here:
adrenaline_rush said:
I'm using the ookla Speedtest.net app. I tried it in the browser, got 28MB/s, that's with a server that was way far away from my location. Cant test while tethering, i have no root.
Surprisingly i was able to take a screenshot even after the update broke my root.
51MB/s top speed
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Some super fast speed tests with 5 bars!
majorpay said:
He did screenshot it here:
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Okay, you must have more information than the post has. I was trying let people know that there is an app for screenshots even if you aren't rooted.
Anyways, I'm not sure if it's due to the OTA Update or the fact that I'm trying more speed tests to different servers and while I'm out and about, but I've had some crazy high speed test results in areas that I had 5 bars. See attached.
47Mbps

O_O Holy.... *drool*

I need to get back into one of the 5 bar 4G areas and try my browser and tethered speeds. My house only gets 2-3 bars. I want to see if those speeds can be reproduced out side of the speedtest.net app.

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Favorite app

I was just wondering what everyones favorite or coolest add on app was? My latest app is compass i drove home in the gps mode.
One of the coolest apps is probably google sky.
SpringPad and Google Sky
favorite app
Currently is vlingo which is 10 bucks in the market but MTS users can get for free right now by downloading via www.vlingo.com. check it out.
Seems like it does the exact same thing as the genius button
turboyo said:
Seems like it does the exact same thing as the genius button
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Was about to say the same thing. Genius button....
turboyo said:
Seems like it does the exact same thing as the genius button
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Pretty much is but works faster than genius.
parmijo11 said:
Pretty much is but works faster than genius.
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Genius is free tho! o:
I would have to say GMote. It talks seamlessly with your computer, so that you have your entire music collection with you. It streams rather well... Its nice when you have a Multi TB music collection.
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IndikuT said:
I would have to say GMote. It talks seamlessly with your computer, so that you have your entire music collection with you. It streams rather well... Its nice when you have a Multi TB music collection.
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do you mind me asking how do you have yours set up? i was only able to get it to work via my home wifi connection (same goes for all of the "remote" apps, ie. remote desktop & rdp, phonemypc). but i need it to work from a remote location.
before the last update google maps had me off by quite a bit now its dead on and I dont lose signal as often either....
Head to DynDns.com and set up DNS account (free). Have it tied to your ip address. Then, for gmote settings, instead of your internal IP, put in your chosen web address.
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Nextel eat your heart out!
My fav is the app called "tikl" it is just like nextels PTT system but for android and doesnt use your minutes! international calling say what? lol its beta and free atm... I would pay for an app that is just like nextels ptt... the beta is good but it could be better... hint hint devs!
Maybe not very exciting, but I've found I can't live without LauncherPro.
For more neat-o factor, c:geo and Robotic Guitarist.
mylostlonelysoul said:
Genius is free tho! o:
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like he said this is free if you download it from their link for the MTS and if you do it through your phone it auto downloads the one for our phones
mylostlonelysoul said:
Genius is free tho! o:
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When I posted that it was free too.
RavenWulf said:
like he said this is free if you download it from their link for the MTS and if you do it through your phone it auto downloads the one for our phones
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Thank you for "reading" what I previously wrote. I just tested and it still works.
IndikuT said:
Head to DynDns.com and set up DNS account (free). Have it tied to your ip address. Then, for gmote settings, instead of your internal IP, put in your chosen web address.
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thanx for the input. setup an account and port forwarded and everything. but still can't get it to connect. =[
camera 360
i use so many useful apps all the time for different things I have my favorite app of the week. Camera 360. There is free and paid. you can take a photo and it will add effects that the stock camera does not. It can take the picture and "sketch" it so it looks as someone drew it. it also does that with painting which is neat. it will also add a ghost into the pics just for fun or creepy with kids or something. It's fun. I paid for the app after using free and it adds the ability to take a b/w photo with color added to just one spot or something. it is neat.
tried the camera 360 but it drained my battery fast I still use it from time to time.

You tube video quality

What does everyone think about YouTube videos on the HD7?? It looks terrible to me. Thoughts anyone???
Yeah unless on WiFi it sucks big time. I hope they either update or hack it to go HQ on 3g.
seems to depend on my connection quality, on a friend's inexpensive connection it looked like it does on an edge connection, on some 3g towers it seems the same as it does on home wifi, and on edge it looks like mud
ckacey said:
seems to depend on my connection quality, on a friend's inexpensive connection it looked like it does on an edge connection, on some 3g towers it seems the same as it does on home wifi, and on edge it looks like mud
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No, on all 3G towers it looks like crap. You have to be on WiFi for a decent looking picture right now. Really crappy.
Where to get Youtube
ace10134 said:
No, on all 3G towers it looks like crap. You have to be on WiFi for a decent looking picture right now. Really crappy.
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Hi, from where You download the Youtube APP? Marketplace? On You are watching Youtube using Internet Explorer?
Thx for reply
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Hi, from where You download the Youtube APP? Marketplace? On You are watching Youtube using Internet Explorer?
Thx for reply
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Yes, I downloaded the YouTube app from the Marketplace. The app then allows you to watch YouTube videos from Internet Explorer.
basically its not an app at all and is just a link to your browser, very unimaginative stuff
anyone any ideas on being able to use other browers?? Or any talk of an update
ANYONE???
HTC1111 said:
basically its not an app at all and is just a link to your browser, very unimaginative stuff
anyone any ideas on being able to use other browers?? Or any talk of an update
ANYONE???
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No, it actually installs the codecs and whatnot so you can view YouTube videos from your browser, so it does do more than just install a browser link.
No clue when any updates to fix the YouTube quality are coming, hopefully soon!

Rate limiting in the Revolution??

My 4G hits 20 Mbps constantly. I would hate to tether to my PC and hit my data limit in 20 minutes.
Does anyone know if the LG Revolution can be configured to rate limit the download or upload connections? This way I can make sure that I'm not over using it?
If nobody is doing this I will see if I can program it, my skills are a bit rusty though.
nipslan said:
My 4G hits 20 Mbps constantly. I would hate to tether to my PC and hit my data limit in 20 minutes.
Does anyone know if the LG Revolution can be configured to rate limit the download or upload connections? This way I can make sure that I'm not over using it?
If nobody is doing this I will see if I can program it, my skills are a bit rusty though.
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I'm not sure what you are saying, but just because speedtest shows 20mb/s doesn't mean you are actually doing that while tethered to a computer. The only way is if you are streaming high def movies our downloading heavy files. To keep an eye on data usage you can use the My Verizon app.
For example, I turn on the tether and let a friend and his laptop connect. If he had bittorrent running he could easily max out my usage in less than 1 hour under ideal circumstances.
Currently I don't know of a way to prevent this, trusting my friend may be a mistake. If I had controls on bandwidth and even firewall out some ports/protocols like bittorrent then I wouldn't have to worry at all.
Tell your friend to get his own Internet.... Just sayin... Lol problem solved!
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Bittorrent and a limited data plan don't go together. And yes, your friend could eat up your usage real fast and cause you overage charges.
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Doing this very easily could require Kernel support. Linux obviously supports this ability but is it built into the linux Kernel for Android?
this makes no sense, why would you use a limited data plan and plan on letting people use your phone like this? Wifi tether has a built in log that shows data usage while using tether.

Network/Tethering Speeds Explained

I'm starting a thread about this subject here because it isn't appropriate to continue a separate discussion where it all began.
There is a misunderstanding about Network/Data/Tethering Speeds and I would like to explain it the best I can.
If you Are using the root tether apps, you are connecting at 54Mbps.
- 54Mbps at 40% capacity is around 21.6Mbps
- 21.6Mbps is approximately 2.7 MB (MegaBytes) per second
- 21.6Mbps is also the MAX throughput you should expect
- With overhead and other factors, generally you will get approx 65-70% of that throughput that is usable data (OSI Model Overhead)
- 65% of 21.6Mbps = 1.755 MB/Sec Actual Speed Downloading a File, or 14Mbps
Why, then, would I get readings as high as 20-22Mbps via Speedtest Sites? Because that is RAW data (Little Overhead - OSI Model) and providing you with MAXimum Throughput readings on a 54Mbps Maximum Bandwidth Link.
Bandwidth and Throughput are Totally different, though mistakenly thought of as the same.
If your connecting via the USB Tether option, you are connecting at 480Mbps (USB 2.0 Standard), but you may notice via Windows 7, that the LinkSpeed is reading 412Gbps, which is obviously wrong, so going with 480Mbps for this explanation.
- 480Mbps at 40% capacity is around 192Mbps
- 192Mbps is approximately 24 MB (MegaBytes) per second
- 192Mbps is also the MAX throughput you should expect
- With overhead and other factors, generally you will get approx 65-70% of that throughput that is usable data (OSI Model Overhead)
- 65% of 192Mbps = 15.6 MB/Sec Actual Speed Downloading a File, or 124.8Mbps
If your network speed is at 21.6Mbps or less (SpeedTest directly on the phone), you wouldn't necessarily see any significant speed differences between the phone/USB Tether/WiFi Tether Methods.
If your phone, such as mine, is getting Speeds as fast as 40.5Mbps Down, then yes, you would have quite a difference between USB Tether and Wifi Tether speeds on your computer.
40.5Mbps = 5.06 MB/Sec File Transfer Rate. Because the capacity of the USB Tethering is way beyond the Max Network Rate (Phone), there is theoretically no Loss in speed. 124.8Mbps - 40.5Mbps = 84.3Mbps. There is over 84.3Mbps of spare throughput available.
So, for those who have argued that there shouldn't be that much of a difference between Wifi Tethering and USB Tethering, learn about overhead, bandwidth, througputs, and the OSI model. It's factual information and will allow you to understand more about the difference in speeds on any network. Using the methods of calculation above, you will always be able to know what to expect when transferring a file to and from the internet, or even another computer. Just keep note of the MAX output numbers. There will always be something that gets in the way. The Max Speed on the Freeway might be 65MPH, but when traffic is very heavy, you might be down to 20MPH. Same goes for number of computer on the information highway.
A good detailed Bandwidth Calculator can be found at: http://web.forret.com/tools/bandwidth.asp?speed=14&unit=Mbps
After looking at the preview of the post, I already know what I should expect as a question about bandwidth/throughput via USB mode.
Question: If you show the MAX USB Throughput to be 15.6MB/Sec, then why can I transfer files to and from phone and other USB Devices at 22+MB/Sec?
Answer: USB VS Ethernet. The USB Is actually being converted to an Ethernet connection for the purpose of Network Data and not File Data.
-Cybie
PS. It's late and I'm tired. So, if something is not clear, or it appears I goofed up something bad here, please do not hesitate to ask questions. I would like this to be as clear as possible as to why I answered other posts the way I did. And to do it here in a General thread in order to not go off-topic in a Developer Thread.
Speed Test Screen Shots Showing Differences
Ok, so photos/screen shots always provide a better line of proof and explanation. Because I tend to get much higher speeds than most, I wanted to show the difference in the speeds between Phone, USB Tether, and WiFi Tether when you MAX Speeds reach above 40Mbps.
PHOTO 1: This is a screen shot from my phone last night after downloading the screen shot app.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
PHOTO 2: This is a screen shot this morning on my computer VIA USB Tether (USB 2.0 480Mbps Link)
PHOTO 3: This is a screen shot this morning on my computer VIA WiFi Tether (Using Garden Tether with 54Mbps Link)
All these speed test results are from the same server (Tacoma, WA) in order to provide the maximum accuracy of changes.
-Cybie
Wow I wish I was getting 40+ over LTE!! Mid-20's is the best I get!
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borborpa said:
Wow I wish I was getting 40+ over LTE!! Mid-20's is the best I get!
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These are crazy speeds. In fact, that's why I have no issue paying the extra $30 for the HotSpot service. $30+$30 = $60 for 40+Mbps Speeds, and the uploads speeds are crazy ridiculous also. Comcast at 20-22Mbps Down and about 3-5Mbps Up runs about $65/month. So, basically, I'm getting double the speeds for same price (actually for $30 since I already have to pay for the Data Service on my phone), plus it's available wherever I go. Of course, most areas are still 3g, but I'm happy with 2+Mbps down on the road if I ever need it, On-Demand and Verizon expects to have all 3g areas upgraded to 4g by mid to end of 2013, which isn't very far away.
-Cybie
What best I can get out here is 15-21. Be nice to see that
GINGERVOLTED!
Cybie257 said:
So, for those who have argued that there shouldn't be that much of a difference between Wifi Tethering and USB Tethering, learn about overhead, bandwidth, througputs, and the OSI model.
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hehe...This is the pinnacle of polite snarkiness; especially commendable considering you were tired.
Seriously though, great post; I've emailed this to several people who needed this explanation.
On a related (though tangential) note, what do you guys think about creating a "map" of 4G speeds/availability by zip code/city? We could use Latitude or some other tool to create an actual graphical depiction as well. We'd start off small within the Revo boards and if it catches on, branch out to the rest of xda to get more data.
Is this something that would be at all useful, or--if nothing else--at least cool information to have/look at? Or is this my nerdy love of analyzing/comparing statistical data causing me to come up with nonsensical, useless ideas?
Thoughts?
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hehe...This is the pinnacle of polite snarkiness; especially commendable considering you were tired.
Seriously though, great post; I've emailed this to several people whom needed this explained to them.
On a related (though tangential) note, what do you guys think about creating a "map" of 4G speeds/availability by zip code/city? We could use Latitude or some other tool to create an actual graphical depiction as well. We'd start off small within the Revo boards and if it catches on, branch out to the rest of xda to get more data.
Is this something that would be at all useful, or--if nothing else--at least cool information to have/look at? Or is this my nerdy love of analyzing/comparing statistical data causing me to come up with nonsensical, useless ideas?
Thoughts?
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I like the idea, I travel some and its nice to know what to expect as far as network speeds. I'll participate.
ufkal said:
I like the idea, I travel some and its nice to know what to expect as far as network speeds. I'll participate.
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I don't suppose you know of a website that would accomodate what we're trying to do?
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I don't suppose you know of a website that would accomodate what we're trying to do?
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Off the top of my head, No. But I'll start at speedtest.net, and maybe DSLReports. See what we can find from there?
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Off the top of my head, No. But I'll start at speedtest.net, and maybe DSLReports. See what we can find from there?
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I meant as far as a means of allowing public contribution, geotagging the data, and displaying it on a map. I've spent the last 30 minutes looking and I can't find ****.
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I meant as far as a means of allowing public contribution, geotagging the data, and displaying it on a map. I've spent the last 30 minutes looking and I can't find ****.
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Ahhh, now I'm stepping in what you're dropping. LOL. No I haven't the foggiest idea. I'm sure there is something out there. I'm looking as well. Probably something Google related I'm sure.
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Ahhh, now I'm stepping in what you're dropping. LOL. No I haven't the foggiest idea. I'm sure there is something out there. I'm looking as well. Probably something Google related I'm sure.
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That's what I thought, but as far as I can tell, Latitude doesn't support the kind of public contribution and data/location storage we're looking for. Basically we need geocaching, but without the stupid treasure hunting part.
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That's what I thought, but as far as I can tell, Latitude doesn't support the kind of public contribution and data/location storage we're looking for. Basically we need geocaching, but without the stupid treasure hunting part.
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Although maybe finding decent consistent 4G is the treasure? "Stand on X to get insane Speeds "
ufkal said:
Ahhh, now I'm stepping in what you're dropping. LOL. No I haven't the foggiest idea. I'm sure there is something out there. I'm looking as well. Probably something Google related I'm sure.
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You have any luck?
If you're interested, I'll be on IRC most of the day...You should jump on so we can discuss this potential project.
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You have any luck?
If you're interested, I'll be on IRC most of the day...You should jump on so we can discuss this potential project.
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I haven't had much luck, I was out most of the day yesterday at the ER with my boy. I'll try to get onto IRC after I talk to a couple of clients this morning.
ufkal said:
I haven't had much luck, I was out most of the day yesterday at the ER with my boy. I'll try to get onto IRC after I talk to a couple of clients this morning.
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Damn, sorry to hear that. Hope your son is alright now.
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Damn, sorry to hear that. Hope your son is alright now.
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Thanks, he's okish. He caught a nasty bug that emptied him from both ends for several hours. He's starting to feel better, and at least keep stuff in.
N tether?
Cybie257 said:
If you Are using the root tether apps, you are connecting at 54Mbps.
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Hiya
speaking about speeds. If I know that both my phone and my laptop is N capable, is there any way to create an N wifi link between them?
I'm not much interested about the external 3g net coverages or speeds but to pump up the lan transfer speed between my phones internal memory and my pc.
there's a nice app for example called Wifi File Explorer. Usually I get between 993-1100 KB/sec upload speed to the internal directories.
I hit roughly the same boundaries if I try to stream some videos via the web interface of the VLC media player targeting my tablet
Reading through your post these seem to be quite normal speeds for 54mbps if I understand it right, but can anything be done to improve this still?
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Hiya
speaking about speeds. If I know that both my phone and my laptop is N capable, is there any way to create an N wifi link between them?
I'm not much interested about the external 3g net coverages or speeds but to pump up the lan transfer speed between my phones internal memory and my pc.
there's a nice app for example called Wifi File Explorer. Usually I get between 993-1100 KB/sec upload speed to the internal directories.
I hit roughly the same boundaries if I try to stream some videos via the web interface of the VLC media player targeting my tablet
Reading through your post these seem to be quite normal speeds for 54mbps if I understand it right, but can anything be done to improve this still?
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Yes. During the posting of this thread, I didn't know about the WiFi Tether Beta project found at this link:
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
Not only can you get an "N" connection (Though actual speed is dependent on certain factors, but you can also get Infrastructure (Non Ad Hoc) mode to work with it, depending on your phone model. If you have an LG Revolution, use the Optimus S phone in the selection menu and you can get your phone to be a standard Access Point.
Note, though, that it is a known issue among phones, which research I just completed a bit ago, the that app can cause your phone to randomly reboot, but usually you can get a solid 20-30 minutes out of it before that happens. If nothing else, use it for 15 mins, shut it down, restart it, and go.
Other than that particular app, I've yet to come across one that goes above G speeds of 54Mbps.
At least for the market apps. If you have Verizon phone with the 4gHotSpot app, non-rooted phone, and pay for the HotSpot plan, that will also do N speeds via Wifi Tethering.
-Cybie
well, thank you for your reply, I'll do my homework on the beta thingie then. Every once a while I did some research about the subject, but always came out empty handed. Hope it works; Thumbs up
*** unfortunately testing will be postponed for a while as I just realised that though both receiving devices are Ns and rooted but the hosting device is an S-ON Htc chacha, and though I read about the firmware downgrade root possibility half of the screen is black because of a fall..
And in the upcoming weeks its just not an option for me to have it be taken to a repair..
But when it happens, I'd happily post my findings about it!

Hotspot not so unlimited with root. - T-Mobile USA LTE

Got cut off today while finishing the Dragon Ball series. I have LTE enabled and was streaming with it. I still love t-mo though, coming from Sprint their speeds are to die for.
Didn't see a thread about this.
Edit: not to say they ever implied it was unlimited in the first place, but it would seem so with root.
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which plan are you on?
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which plan are you on?
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Unlimited 4G with 500MB hotspot. Took Sprint 2.5 years to catch me tethering without paying with hot spot hack on sph-d700 (epic 4g)
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Well the hotspot of all their plans it technically only 500mb then you have to pay an extra $10 for another 1gb. Using data on the phone is unlimited. They probably saw your user agent string and noticed it was for a computer rather than your phone. Still you got a lot more than 500mb of hotspot out of it, so not too bad a deal.
Edit: beat me to it
They probably noticed quickly because it was so much data in a short period of time. If you spread out the tethering more (maybe less video), they probably wouldn't notice. I'm on the $30 prepaid plan and tether around 5gb a month but I spread it out over a couple days (maybe 500-2gb a day) and haven't been caught yet.
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Well the hotspot of all their plans it technically only 500mb then you have to pay an extra $10 for another 1gb. Using data on the phone is unlimited. They probably saw your user agent string and noticed it was for a computer rather than your phone. Still you got a lot more than 500mb of hotspot out of it, so not too bad a deal.
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Yeah but compared to Sprint, T-mo is really keeping an eye out for the tether'ers. Glad I got as far as I did though lol. Any way around the user agent string?
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Yeah but compared to Sprint, T-mo is really keeping an eye out for the tether'ers. Glad I got as far as I did though lol. Any way around the user agent string?
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you can spoof it on your computer i guess but im not so sure that's the problem
PhantomGamers said:
you can spoof it on your computer i guess but im not so sure that's the problem
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Smasung series 3 Chromebook? If not it's cool. Guess I gotta wait till I can wait to get a PC and patience for anime episodes lol
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tdoglablarezigzaguno.1.3.13 said:
Yeah but compared to Sprint, T-mo is really keeping an eye out for the tether'ers. Glad I got as far as I did though lol. Any way around the user agent string?
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Yeah you can spoof it by changing your browser setting. Depending on your browser you can look it up: http://www.howtogeek.com/113439/how...user-agent-without-installing-any-extensions/
It's a feature built into basically all browsers.
It decreases your chances of being detected but it really depends on how tmobile detects tethering. The user agent way is the simpliest and quickest but they can also do it by TTL (time to live) of the packets your computer requests as you for example watch videos or browse. They can also detect it other ways but those are 2 of the more common ones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734138 Post 8 explains the TTL method a bit more
Basically changing your user agent is the quickest method that my help a bit (depending on if they favor that detection method). Using a vpn on your computer might further and better prevent detection. (I've never tried this myself but in theory it might help more than a simple user agent change. You can find guides of other methods people use to try and get around it. I haven't heavily investigated any other methods aside from the vpn and user agent since I've never been cut off so I don't really know of of any specific ones.
I personally think the thing that really tips them off is a huge spike in usage for a short time period.
If you tether over bluetooth or USB, you basically never get caught in my experience as well as several others I know who do the same. So I would try that. It's a bit slower but not bad.
I'd suggest bluetooth or usb tethering next time and see if that prolongs your hotspot usage. But as I mentioned, I really think it is the massive usage spike in a short time that tips them off so you may still get caught. When I use bluetooth and usb tethering, I still try not to go to heavy on usage over short periods.
I suspect that the TTL method may be more commonly used since it's not easily avoidable so you are best off slowing your usage when you are tethered. It would be very easy for them to see a spike in usage and check the TTL of your packets, realize you're tethering, then cut it off. It's more reliable than user agents.
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It's funny though that I can go to G+, FB, and G-Mail but not uanime.com or any forums, whether USB or wireless tethering now. Guess I'll try spoofing.
Edit: Override the user agent in the browser on ChromeOS to resemble a GNex and it works, thanks. Although some web pages are now literally half the size they used to be, it doesn't effect full screen videos.
I could kiss you lazer155 haha thank you so much, I wish I could thank your post multiple times
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They blocked all the user agents I used to be able to use. They certainly are beefing up their detection abilities.
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tdoglablarezigzaguno.1.3.13 said:
It's funny though that I can go to G+, FB, and G-Mail but not uanime.com or any forums, whether USB or wireless tethering now. Guess I'll try spoofing.
Edit: Override the user agent in the browser on ChromeOS to resemble a GNex and it works, thanks. Although some web pages are now literally half the size they used to be, it doesn't effect full screen videos.
I could kiss you lazer155 haha thank you so much, I wish I could thank your post multiple times
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Lol no problem, glad it works for you now. :highfive: Yeah that is the downside I forgot to mention. You can try to fix that problem by experimenting with making your browser look like other desktop browsers (for example maybe tmobile doesn't block some of the more obscure desktop browsers like opera etc.) or copying your phone's desktop style user agent in chrome. That might result in desktop style pages but tmobile will think you are a phone requesting desktop. (the user agent actually shows your operating system too so if you spoof that part to android you should be able to get desktop style while still staying hidden) You'd have to look up the android chrome desktop user agent though. I don't know what it is.
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They blocked all the user agents I used to be able to use. They certainly are beefing up their detection abilities.
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Yeah they do seem to figure out the user agent trick eventually if you use it several times. That's happened to other people I know. I think if you keep using a lot of data when tethering eventually they review your usage more carefully with their other methods like the TTL check.
Absolutely no less than 90% of this has been used while connected via native wifi tethering, and this usage is over the course of only 2 weeks. I have unlimited 4g (prepaid) and no tethering plan at all.
I've gotten a page that says I'm either not authorized to tether or over my limit two or three times in the last 3 days, but I just disable/re-enable tethering and reload the page....that's solved it every time.
just in case anyone is wondering, I'm using native wifi/usb tether on official PA (always the latest build) and franco M3 kernel....I've also got the chrome user agent switcher installed on my phone and set to desktop. I'm sure that doesn't matter, but I thought I should mention it. I'm also using chrome on my ubuntu PC with no user agent switcher installed.
I'm curious how much data everyone else who has had a problem tethering have used. I'm pretty sure my usage is way heavier than probably 99% of their customers...even those of us here
You guys have me all kinds of curious about tethering now.
Are any of you using mostly LTE?
If so, what's the battery life?
Stability of tethering?
CrashTestDroid said:
You guys have me all kinds of curious about tethering now.
Are any of you using mostly LTE?
If so, what's the battery life?
Stability of tethering?
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I stay on LTE, no serious difference in battery lifeand I'm usually plugged in while I tether, so battery life doesn't matter much there. Perfectly stable until T-Mo discovers you're over the limit.
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I wonder if whether or not T-mobile can measure how much data you've used for tethering without using their hotspot app (what they use on T-mobile branded phones to meter tethering usage) depends on the APN you're connected through?
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Update wow, I got my Chromecast today and viewed The Hunger Games and a few episode of Breaking Bad through Netflix and it really sky rocketed my data usage. I guess it'll take some time for T-Mo to catch on to Chromecast tethering. Someone let me know if I should delete this post in case T-Mo is watching.
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duce102 said:
Update wow, I got my Chromecast today and viewed The Hunger Games and a few episode of Breaking Bad through Netflix and it really sky rocketed my data usage. I guess it'll take some time for T-Mo to catch on to Chromecast tethering. Someone let me know if I should delete this post in case T-Mo is watching.
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I don't think that has anything to do with chromecast. You streamed a ton of high res media. That uses data. Don't you have WiFi where your TV is?
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duce102 said:
Update wow, I got my Chromecast today and viewed The Hunger Games and a few episode of Breaking Bad through Netflix and it really sky rocketed my data usage. I guess it'll take some time for T-Mo to catch on to Chromecast tethering. Someone let me know if I should delete this post in case T-Mo is watching.
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So is the Chromecast connected via Wi-Fi to your home router or to your phone (acting as a hot spot)?
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pwc realtor said:
So is the Chromecast connected via Wi-Fi to your home router or to your phone (acting as a hot spot)?
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Phone, I don't see much point in paying two different companies for the same service lol
Richieboy67 said:
I don't think that has anything to do with chromecast. You streamed a ton of high res media. That uses data. Don't you have WiFi where your TV is?
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No, I know it's not the Chromecast at fault, just stating I was using that to stream though. I'm surprised at how well its working and I've never streamed 1080p before so the jump in data usage caught me off guard a bit.

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