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Rooted G1 with Cyanogen... only 14 MB internal Memory left?

Ok Guys, new to this site, hopefully y'all can help me out.
I recently rooted my G1, Installed the latest Cyanogen (4.7.2.1) and installed a theme ( Marks Theme). I dont have very many apps cause I didnt want to bog down the phone memory.....
I love the set up but it started running slower even after I started running the over clocker widget.
My phone is only showing 14.18 MB of free internal memory. I went through my applications installed and can only find around 25 MB being used from all installed apps ( including browser and messaging etc.)
I even tried to do a factory reset ( by going through the settings) and the factory reset is not working. It changed nothing.
Is there something that Im missing? I feel like I should have much more free memory.
I love the way my phone works and the set up, I just wish it had more free memory so that it would run faster.
Ive thought about doing the Apps2SD but I feel like I chould have much more memory on my phone even before doing something like that.
PLEASE HELP!!!!!!

This is a question, and as such belongs in the Q&A section. You'll receive a better response to such things there.
The internal memory you're referring to is your /system partition.
It is where the entire OS is stored, basically. Which takes up, in your case, a whopping 55 MB (out of 70 MB).
If you //really// want more room, follow the Apps-2-SD tutorials out there. You'll get /plenty/ of space.

You could always upgrade to the new amon ra and then let it partition the sd card for you.Then you can have all that free phone storage for whatever it is.Bext time just try to restrict yourself from posting in wrong section
-Best regards

IConrad01 said:
This is a question, and as such belongs in the Q&A section. You'll receive a better response to such things there.
The internal memory you're referring to is your /system partition.
It is where the entire OS is stored, basically. Which takes up, in your case, a whopping 55 MB (out of 70 MB).
If you //really// want more room, follow the Apps-2-SD tutorials out there. You'll get /plenty/ of space.
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Thank you for the quick response. Is there a way to move this thread?
Also is there a better ROM that will take up less memory? I like this version but obviously it is wayy to large.
Anyone else running cyanogen 4.7.2.1 having this issue?

Most people using the Cyanogen ROM also utilize A2SD. Partition your SD card and you'll get more room.

pewterwest said:
Anyone else running cyanogen 4.7.2.1 having this issue?
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There is no issue, you just don't have an ext partition ergo, all applications are installed to your phone which is why you have low phone memory.

pewterwest said:
Thank you for the quick response. Is there a way to move this thread?
Also is there a better ROM that will take up less memory? I like this version but obviously it is wayy to large.
Anyone else running cyanogen 4.7.2.1 having this issue?
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Hello! app2SD will put the apps to ext...Then you will have more memory, why do you think people use it? To save even more money on geico?
Go here for the amon recovery...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566669

Hi, first of this has nothing to do with development, should be in Q&A. Please remember for next time
OK, when you're on a custom ROM, don't use factory reset. Instead boot in to the recovery image and perform a wipe from there, and that's exactly what I'd suggest. Be prepared to loose everything stored on the phones memory, but you can use a backup app from the market for that... No you really should way more space than that, I can't really explain why...

IConrad01 said:
This is a question, and as such belongs in the Q&A section. You'll receive a better response to such things there.
The internal memory you're referring to is your /system partition.
It is where the entire OS is stored, basically. Which takes up, in your case, a whopping 55 MB (out of 70 MB).
If you //really// want more room, follow the Apps-2-SD tutorials out there. You'll get /plenty/ of space.
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The phone has two main partitions: /system and /data. It isn't /system that's filling up, it's /data (which makes sense...). The phone can't write to /system when it's unrooted, so it's not possible to store files there...

Everyone is trying to help but for a noob it can be a bit too much...4.2.7.1 is the best Rom available so keep that....RA Recovery is the best way to set up your memory card to accept your apps and keep them there freeing up a ton of space on the phone....simple way to fix is....Just format you sdcard with EXT3 using the RA-recovery v1.5.1 then once your card is formatted just reboot and Cyanogen's rom will move all the apps for you.....will not need to wipe any info on the phone that way...done it many times......Pm me if you need help!!!!
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some threads to help:
Ra - Recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566669
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[REF] manual partition of sdcard w/parted,goto ext3/4 from adb. no liveCD req'd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534714

Young Money. Cash Money.
(partition sd card)

The non rooted standard T-Mobile rom is about the same size and will give you about the same amount of free space. There could be a more barebones rom but I think it's just a lot easier to run Apps2SD then to create a rom that might get you an extra 10mb of internal space. This is the fault of the internal memory on the phone being small. The only way to fix that is getting Apps2sd running which if you make a partion of 100mb should be enough to install all the apps you need. Getting a larger SD card for $10 is also another option so you wont have 1/10th of your sd cards storage gone.

djdarkknight96 said:
Everyone is trying to help but for a noob it can be a bit too much...4.2.7.1 is the best Rom available so keep that....RA Recovery is the best way to set up your memory card to accept your apps and keep them there freeing up a ton of space on the phone....simple way to fix is....Just format you sdcard with EXT3 using the RA-recovery v1.5.1 then once your card is formatted just reboot and Cyanogen's rom will move all the apps for you.....will not need to wipe any info on the phone that way...done it many times......Pm me if you need help!!!!
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some threads to help:
Ra - Recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566669
OR-
[REF] manual partition of sdcard w/parted,goto ext3/4 from adb. no liveCD req'd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534714
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Guys thank you very much for your help..... i partioned my sd and now i have 58.8 MB free on internal.... you guys are great.
Is there anything else i can do besides rooting, apps2sd and overclocker to make even faster?

pewterwest said:
Guys thank you very much for your help..... i partioned my sd and now i have 58.8 MB free on internal.... you guys are great.
Is there anything else i can do besides rooting, apps2sd and overclocker to make even faster?
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You can always try different roms. CM is good and fast, but maybe try dwang 1.13 or Wesgarner version. wg is based on CM. I find it faster and more stable but this is just my opinion. if you back everything up with nandroid and some app like mybackup, you can flash all you want. you'll be able to get everything back with a nandroid/mybackup restore. try different stuff out and figure out what you like!

Low Memory Should I Root?

I finally hit low memory on my N1 with only 20mb left I already moved all the apps to SD and clean cache and history. Now the question is does rooting solve this problem and how much more memory do you get ? (depending on the rom) Is there any solution without having to root the device? Thanks

Rooting by itself won't give you anything. You need to root and install A2SD or any other similar program/app, including a kernel that supports it and repartitioning SD card - and only then you'll get more space.

simple fix
josemedina1983 said:
I finally hit low memory on my N1 with only 20mb left I already moved all the apps to SD and clean cache and history. Now the question is does rooting solve this problem and how much more memory do you get ? (depending on the rom) Is there any solution without having to root the device? Thanks
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i had this prob back in the day, what you got to do is go to apps2sd see which apps are unmovable then search for hacked modded versions which allow moving to sd. most updated versions of software allow this. i know a web site where u can get loads of modded apps2sd apps but am not sure if am aloud to post it here
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kuljit55 said:
i had this prob back in the day, what you got to do is go to apps2sd see which apps are unmovable then search for hacked modded versions which allow moving to sd. most updated versions of software allow this. i know a web site where u can get loads of modded apps2sd apps but am not sure if am aloud to post it here
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Can you DM the links thanks !

Install Link2sd, you choose where you want your apps to go. Nice, intuitive interface
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919326

zando2712 said:
Install Link2sd, you choose where you want your apps to go. Nice, intuitive interface
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919326
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This (as all other "true" A2SD utilities) will still require repartitioning SD card.

Yes it requires repartitioning.

After a long night of reading and having trouble on the command line I finally rooted my phone to CM7 2.3.3. I finally have more space and I can move apps like adobe flash to SD thanks guys. After playing with CM 7.0.3 I notice the piture quality taken with the camera are just horrible is there any fix for that?

System Rom: 13.2MB Free

According to Titanium, I have 13.2 MB free on my System Rom memory. Seems to me that is low and could cause problems.
I have not proactively taken any action, up to now, to put any apps on the SD. However, I just went into manage apps, found many that won't allow it, but did move a couple, totaling around 5MB, but it did not change the reading in Titanium. I just kicked off a full backup, thinking maybe it won't update until I do that.
At any rate, anyone have any thoughts, suggestions, comments or recommendations?

No it will not make any problems. When you moved apps, you move user apps stored on /data/apps to /mnt/.It is talking about the /system partition of the phone. Don't worry about it.

That shouldn't be a issue ROM means Read Only Memory if i remember right, so that shouldn't change to much (except when flashing a new rom). Apps are in the "internal" as to TiBU.
Edit: b-eock beat me to it xD

prbassplayer said:
That shouldn't be a issue ROM means Read Only Memory if i remember right, so that shouldn't change to much (except when flashing a new rom). Apps are in the "internal" as to TiBU.
Edit: b-eock beat me to it xD
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Doh! Of course you are right. Basic IT 101.

prbassplayer said:
That shouldn't be a issue ROM means Read Only Memory if i remember right, so that shouldn't change to much (except when flashing a new rom). Apps are in the "internal" as to TiBU.
Edit: b-eock beat me to it xD
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sorry
10char

Thanks folks. Was just having a brain fart.

Low on Internal memory

I never used a smartphone before and now here i am with a small basic phone trying to figure out how things can be done...but...
I hardly can install 6-7apps in this phone..even though i install the file in SD card it still takes 2-4mb space from internal..
and mine is not rooted but i tried rooting before and it did nothing may be because i really dont know what to be done.
Anyways i just want to know is there anyway i can add few more apps like atleast 10apps in this phone?? i do have few preinstalled apps..and it cant be moved i know but things like GO apps i cant move it to SD..but my friends ACE can n i have no clue why i cant????? it neva show move to SD in mine but in his phone it does..can anybody help me in installing few more apps ..in this thing...i will be so greatful if u can and Thanks in advance.
for your info apps i have downloaded as if now:
twitter, Instagram, some empire game2, pool game, whatsapp, real player, FB messenger, dictionary thats all..

eantonykurien said:
I never used a smartphone before and now here i am with a small basic phone trying to figure out how things can be done...but...
I hardly can install 6-7apps in this phone..even though i install the file in SD card it still takes 2-4mb space from internal..
and mine is not rooted but i tried rooting before and it did nothing may be because i really dont know what to be done.
Anyways i just want to know is there anyway i can add few more apps like atleast 10apps in this phone?? i do have few preinstalled apps..and it cant be moved i know but things like GO apps i cant move it to SD..but my friends ACE can n i have no clue why i cant????? it neva show move to SD in mine but in his phone it does..can anybody help me in installing few more apps ..in this thing...i will be so greatful if u can and Thanks in advance.
for your info apps i have downloaded as if now:
twitter, Instagram, some empire game2, pool game, whatsapp, real player, FB messenger, dictionary thats all..
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you need a ext4 partition on your sd card and an app which enables you moving apps to sd like "link2sd", "s2e" or similar. And you need to root your phone.
Look a bit around in the ace section here on xda and youll find everything you need

Mardon said:
you need a ext4 partition on your sd card and an app which enables you moving apps to sd like "link2sd", "s2e" or similar. And you need to root your phone.
Look a bit around in the ace section here on xda and youll find everything you need
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addition : if you a user-type that like to remove your sdcard, better to use link2sd instead of any type extended-internal memory

123r4ka456 said:
addition : if you a user-type that like to remove your sdcard, better to use link2sd instead of any type extended-internal memory
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Just switch off your phone before removing sd card.
I won't give up. I'll wait for you.

Mardon said:
you need a ext4 partition on your sd card and an app which enables you moving apps to sd like "link2sd", "s2e" or similar. And you need to root your phone.
Look a bit around in the ace section here on xda and youll find everything you need
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You almost can do a partition with cmw ovbiously with your device rooted and then use s2e is easy i hope that i can help you
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eantonykurien said:
I never used a smartphone before and now here i am with a small basic phone trying to figure out how things can be done...but...
I hardly can install 6-7apps in this phone..even though i install the file in SD card it still takes 2-4mb space from internal..
and mine is not rooted but i tried rooting before and it did nothing may be because i really dont know what to be done.
Anyways i just want to know is there anyway i can add few more apps like atleast 10apps in this phone?? i do have few preinstalled apps..and it cant be moved i know but things like GO apps i cant move it to SD..but my friends ACE can n i have no clue why i cant????? it neva show move to SD in mine but in his phone it does..can anybody help me in installing few more apps ..in this thing...i will be so greatful if u can and Thanks in advance.
for your info apps i have downloaded as if now:
twitter, Instagram, some empire game2, pool game, whatsapp, real player, FB messenger, dictionary thats all..
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you must create ext3 or ext4 primary partition on your sdcard. to create partition, install mini tool partition wizard to your pc. then you can use link2sd to link dalvik caches to your sdcard. or, if you use cm7 as your rom, you can install s2e. to remove system apps, use link2sd
Sent from my GT-S5570

Thanks alot guys
enzotheresa said:
you must create ext3 or ext4 primary partition on your sdcard. to create partition, install mini tool partition wizard to your pc. then you can use link2sd to link dalvik caches to your sdcard. or, if you use cm7 as your rom, you can install s2e. to remove system apps, use link2sd
Sent from my GT-S5570
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I read most of the threads and found quite interesting and later yesterday night i rooted my phone and when that went on smoothly i thought why dont i try installing a custom rom? So i installed a normal one which had very basic thing to be done to install it..and finally i installed stocklite ..but still im kinda facing the same old internal problem but i will definitely try your reply's and will get back to guys later..Never thought i will get a lot of responses like this..cheers to you all.:good:
Thanks alot everyone

One more question?
eantonykurien said:
I read most of the threads and found quite interesting and later yesterday night i rooted my phone and when that went on smoothly i thought why dont i try installing a custom rom? So i installed a normal one which had very basic thing to be done to install it..and finally i installed stocklite ..but still im kinda facing the same old internal problem but i will definitely try your reply's and will get back to guys later..Never thought i will get a lot of responses like this..cheers to you all.:good:
Thanks alot everyone
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How do i make partitions like you guys said..i do have CWM5 but i dont know how to use these apps And after partition what should i do just install link2sd to move to sdcard? I know im kinda talking like a kid but guess im way too old in techy things sorry for troubling all..

CallMeLewis said:
Just switch off your phone before removing sd card.
I won't give up. I'll wait for you.
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accidentially drop you phone.....memory card accidentially unmounted.....no nandroid backup&&last titanium backup 2 week old.......==:good:

eantonykurien said:
How do i make partitions like you guys said..i do have CWM5 but i dont know how to use these apps And after partition what should i do just install link2sd to move to sdcard? I know im kinda talking like a kid but guess im way too old in techy things sorry for troubling all..
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here's the guide for you (only cm7)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1477996#

Will try
limxyz said:
here's the guide for you (only cm7)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1477996#
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I dont have a CyanogenMod ROM im using Stocklite and i tried using link2sd but its no use..even though all the apps are stored in SD few apps has cache on internal storage so it eats all that..and now im in the same situvation but i will try what you said..
But i already did partitioning my SD using link2sd..how can i make my SD back to normal and once i install CyanogenMod ROM should i format my SD??? to take those partition away or should i do something else?

Need help!!!!!
eantonykurien said:
I dont have a CyanogenMod ROM im using Stocklite and i tried using link2sd but its no use..even though all the apps are stored in SD few apps has cache on internal storage so it eats all that..and now im in the same situvation but i will try what you said..
But i already did partitioning my SD using link2sd..how can i make my SD back to normal and once i install CyanogenMod ROM should i format my SD??? to take those partition away or should i do something else?
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"system/etc/gps.conf"
This is to edit gps setting in a Custom ROM
How to goto this place to edit it in CyanogenMod 7.2 RC3 by vo-1, APOCALYPSE? I installed it but cannot find a way to reach this place. And i cant ask question to the developer because im a new guy here so cant post a question ova there..

eantonykurien said:
I dont have a CyanogenMod ROM im using Stocklite and i tried using link2sd but its no use..even though all the apps are stored in SD few apps has cache on internal storage so it eats all that..and now im in the same situvation but i will try what you said..
But i already did partitioning my SD using link2sd..how can i make my SD back to normal and once i install CyanogenMod ROM should i format my SD??? to take those partition away or should i do something else?
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Are you linking the apk, dex and lib files or just installing (moving) apps to sd? You should create link to free up your internal space.
Take it from my experience. I used stocklite for almost 5 months with link2sd. Linked all apps except for those with widgets or that i needed at boot left on internal. 80 apps, 50 mb free on internal.
If you change to cyanogenmod you won't have more internal space, same space, different rom. When you do the required wipes with cwm (which you should to install cyano roms) it will format and erase the partition. You'll still have your partitioned sd card, but all info in that partition will be gone.

last question
dxppxd said:
Are you linking the apk, dex and lib files or just installing (moving) apps to sd? You should create link to free up your internal space.
Take it from my experience. I used stocklite for almost 5 months with link2sd. Linked all apps except for those with widgets or that i needed at boot left on internal. 80 apps, 50 mb free on internal.
If you change to cyanogenmod you won't have more internal space, same space, different rom. When you do the required wipes with cwm (which you should to install cyano roms) it will format and erase the partition. You'll still have your partitioned sd card, but all info in that partition will be gone.
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I installed Cyno Mod 7 ROM and it works just fine and i have partitioned again and everything is fine now..but i backuped my stocklite and i dont have the original ROM which i used even before rooting how to get that 'the real one which i had when i bought the phone?' if i have that one ..i can change it to anytime when i want..

Carrier specific roms are harder to find than free roms. Go to sammobile and check if they have the rom that came with your phone.
The stock roms are all installed through your computer with odin and your phone in download mode.

dxppxd said:
Carrier specific roms are harder to find than free roms. Go to sammobile and check if they have the rom that came with your phone.
The stock roms are all installed through your computer with odin and your phone in download mode.
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MMh ok i will check that and i have never used odin to flash a new ROM!!!! i have seen people talking about this s/w i really have no clue what is this all about.

eantonykurien said:
MMh ok i will check that and i have never used odin to flash a new ROM!!!! i have seen people talking about this s/w i really have no clue what is this all about.
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Did the ROM apocalypse had any updates because i still do have some bugs..

where that 7 gigs of space going

Hello Everyone
I rooted and already have my phone the way I want it but I've noticed that when you do the full wipe
theres like 7 gigs of space missing. I was wondering if anyone was able to at least get most of their space back when they wipe the phone
if so how can i do it?
I currently running the Rage Rom thinking of going back to Ecliptic ONE
and i have TWRP recovery
any ideas will be appretiated thanks

Have you made any backups?

g00s3y said:
Have you made any backups?
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I made a back up but i deleted it unless theres another back up am missing somewhere?
how much space you supposed to have after the full wipe?

I recently did a full wipe and it was like 6.x gigs right off the bat. It boggles the mind, considering there are phones out there that have only that much total capacity.
Wtf htc.
Does anyone know how much space AOSP roms take? I'm switching once the installer comes out.

sauprankul said:
I recently did a full wipe and it was like 6.x gigs right off the bat. It boggles the mind, considering there are phones out there that have only that much total capacity.
Wtf htc.
Does anyone know how much space AOSP roms take? I'm switching once the installer comes out.
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AOSP ROMs are typically around 120-150 Megs zipped, sense ROM go.from 700 to a little over 900 MB's zipped.

https://vzwsupport.jive-mobile.com/#jive-discussion?content=/api/core/v2/discussions/804286
It's only 25 GB available left. :-[
Sent from my m7spr using tapatalk4

phatmanxxl said:
AOSP ROMs are typically around 120-150 Megs zipped, sense ROM go.from 700 to a little over 900 MB's zipped.
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Right, but I'm asking for how much CM takes after installation and clean wipe. I'm not sure how compression works, so this may be wrong, but if I set up a proportion (I'm almost sure you can't do that), CM comes to 1.5 gigs installed (205meg for 10.2 zipped), which seems more reasonable.
It really sucks that I have to keep clearing out stuff because I start with only like 25 gigs of space rather than 31.5.
Can somebody who has 10.2 installed comment?

if its off a fresh boot, it's because of all the apps that prolly installed to the internal sd got erased, thats why you had more space, and still have your files and stuff

ticklemepinks said:
if its off a fresh boot, it's because of all the apps that prolly installed to the internal sd got erased, thats why you had more space, and still have your files and stuff
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I (tried to) delete ALL data from my phone and it was still 7 gigs.

Got this explanation from another site.
The 32GB are in 1000Byte = 1KB Logic, and the 25GB should be in Binary Logic, so 1024Byte = 1KB. which gives at first a "loss" of about 2GB: 32GB = 29,8023GiB
the rest of the space is mostly the android system, reserved space for cache etc... one small part will be the journal of the ext file sytstem which is used instead of yaffs. So arround 200-400MB i think will be covered by the ext journal.
you have the same problem with harddisks too. The firms write it in decimal logic but the operating system does it in binary. Some Operating Systems nowadays also write the correct GiB or MiB or KiB but not all...[\quote]
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use a file explorer and go back as far as you can. Check /data/media. if you've ever flashed a 4.2 rom it moves all your files around and it gets confusing.
If that doesn't find it, download Diskusage. it could help you out.