[Q] UMA calling via Streak 7 as a hotspot? - Dell Streak 7

Has anyone been able to make phone calls with a phone that is using the Dell Streak 7 4G as a wi-fi hotspot? In other words, lets say I normally use my Streak 7 as a wi-fi tablet in the house, but when taking it out of the house I'd pop in the SIM from my T-Mobile phone in order to get data on the Streak, and set the Streak to be a wi-fi hotspot, then still use my phone to make calls (receive data, etc.) via wi-fi.

mmveets said:
Has anyone been able to make phone calls with a phone that is using the Dell Streak 7 4G as a wi-fi hotspot? In other words, lets say I normally use my Streak 7 as a wi-fi tablet in the house, but when taking it out of the house I'd pop in the SIM from my T-Mobile phone in order to get data on the Streak, and set the Streak to be a wi-fi hotspot, then still use my phone to make calls (receive data, etc.) via wi-fi.
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When you set the S7 to be a WiFi hotspot, you can do with it anything you could do with any other WiFi hotspot.

mmveets said:
Has anyone been able to make phone calls with a phone that is using the Dell Streak 7 4G as a wi-fi hotspot? In other words, lets say I normally use my Streak 7 as a wi-fi tablet in the house, but when taking it out of the house I'd pop in the SIM from my T-Mobile phone in order to get data on the Streak, and set the Streak to be a wi-fi hotspot, then still use my phone to make calls (receive data, etc.) via wi-fi.
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seriously ?... the "hotspot" is for DATA ONLY... the only way you would be able to use a phone is with skype or something like Vonage.... its not a microcell....
additionally, you may have to have a data plan that allows for the hot spot to be enabled. AT&T restricts the use of the hot spot to phones/contracts that provide for tethering....

UMA
whoknowes said:
seriously ?... the "hotspot" is for DATA ONLY... the only way you would be able to use a phone is with skype or something like Vonage.... its not a microcell....
additionally, you may have to have a data plan that allows for the hot spot to be enabled. AT&T restricts the use of the hot spot to phones/contracts that provide for tethering....
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Seriously. T-Mobile does nice things that AT&T won't let you - like make phone calls over wi-fi connections, as if they were microcells. It's called UMA. I use it every day and it's wonderful. Apparently it can work over bluetooth too:
umatechnology.org/overview

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I currently have no internet access on my tmobile plan but if I use the Wi-FI will it be charging on my phone bill?
Nah; My phones not even actiev yet and I'm able to use it via wifi
if you're concerned about it just disable your phone,
i work in one of t-mobs call centers atm and i havn't seen that come acrossed as an issue yet so i'd say you'r good,
Wifi is completely seperate from your phones radio which connects to the phone company. So you can use it anywhere it is offered freely, free of charge.
only reason you would be charged is if the wifi signals weak enough that it drops and your phone connects to GPRS or EDGE
..... this question is really .......
KingBowser said:
I currently have no internet access on my tmobile plan but if I use the Wi-FI will it be charging on my phone bill?
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Yes it won't charge you on the phone bill, but you may have to pay for WIFI access, depends on which hot-spot you're connecting to

No 2G/3G while on calls...

I've noticed recently that I can't seem to access 2G/3G while on calls. I remember being able to do this with unrooted phone. Is there a feature or service I need to disable for this to work? I have wifi, gps, bluetooth all on at once, most of the time. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
SG_Shadow said:
I've noticed recently that I can't seem to access 2G/3G while on calls. I remember being able to do this with unrooted phone. Is there a feature or service I need to disable for this to work? I have wifi, gps, bluetooth all on at once, most of the time. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Never ever seen edge/3g on my mytouch or my old g1 my g1 wasnt ever rooted the mytouch is and like I said I've never seen the data icon on while in a call are 100% certain that it used to be on?
I have 2/3g while on calls on my rooted g1. I think the issue is if you're on call, and hit a blind spot where you get disconnected from your data connection but not voice (this happens to be often). It will not reconnect the data connect edge or 3g until I end the voice call. I also get into this problem if i'm connected on wifi while i'm on call and leaves the wifi area, it'll not connect to 2/3 g until i end the voice connection.
you cannot use 2g + voice at the same time. only 3g

[Q] Streak 7 - How is it as a phone and a hotspot?

There's a part of me that REALLY likes the idea of replacing my tablet, phone, and WiFi Router with a single device. Since I suspect a 10" would be too big to carry around with me, I am thinking about getting the Streak 7 4G and pairing it up with the T-Mobile 4G pre-paid plan at $30/mo for 100 minutes, unlimited text, and 5GB data.
I think I understand what compromises I'm making in terms of a tablet (I have previously owned an iPad, a Viewsonic G-Tablet, and iPad 2, and a Motorola Xoom while my wife has a Kindle fire). However, I am interested in finding out how well this works in terms of the other two uses. As a phone, I presume that while you COULD use it directly that most folks use a Bluetooth headset? If so, any recommendations? Also, anyone who has used a streak and a headset with Groove IP?
Then as a hotspot, I presume the T-mobile plan is ok with that. Does it give enough WiFi that it can reach from my desk to the desk across from me? Perhaps more important, does it allow me to setup WPA Personal with AES security?
Thanks in advance!
The DS7 can't do audio calling.
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The DS7 can't do audio calling.
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The T-mobile 4G one doesn't handle calls? Or are you saying it only will with the appropriate software (Groove IP) and a bluetooth headset - which was my understanding of what it has to do?
It cant make normal cell phone type calls, but it can be used for voip calls

[Q] Can use a phone sim in a DS7?

I have a phone sim in my dying HD2, and hope to use the data plan just by plugging it into a Streak 7. Will that work? Can it be made to work?
Should work for data. I believe there have been several threads discussing if it is possible to use the streak as a phone. General consensus has been that the values are disabled by default and that the streak lacks the proper hardware(radios?) to support GSM(sim card) communication.
If you are able to pop in the sim, try data. If you are able to get data working you can try what I use on my wifi only streak: grooveIP in the market... this uses a Google voice account, as long as Ihave a wifi connection and GrooveIP on, my cell number rings my Evo(sprint has integration with Google voice) my laptop and my streak all at the same time on incoming calls. My cell # and Google voice # are the same so the only thing required for the streak to ring is the data connection.
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it will work provided you have a 3g compatible sim

[Q] Faster tethering?

Newbie here with the Gear, sorry if this has been asked before but I googled for a while.
I have a rooted Gear with Null ROM and rooted phone. Bluetooth tethering is awfully slow though when I'm indoors since my phone gets crappy 3G/4G reception, but I have solid Wi-Fi -- the phone's apps all work great through Wi-Fi, but the bluetooth tether insists on trying to use cellular data even though Wi-Fi is there.
Is there any way to allow the bluetooth tethering to use both the 3G/4G as well as the Wi-Fi connection, whatever the phone has available?
Thanks!
It's limited to whatever your phone rom allows. E.g. international stock rom allows tethering via Wi-Fi where as most carrier rounds will only work with cellular data (if it is even an option)
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Brendo said:
It's limited to whatever your phone rom allows. E.g. international stock rom allows tethering via Wi-Fi where as most carrier rounds will only work with cellular data (if it is even an option)
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Thanks! But why should it be limited by the carrier? I want to tether the actual Wi-Fi connection over bluetooth, not the cellular connection (because the Gear doesn't have Wi-Fi, but my phone does, and 95% of the time I'm indoors where I have much better Wi-Fi than cellular reception).
If it makes a difference, I bought my Nexus 4 directly from Google so it's stock ROM and rooted. If I have to change to some other ROM (e.g. Cyanogenmod) I'm willing to do that
wuxiekeji said:
Thanks! But why should it be limited by the carrier? I want to tether the actual Wi-Fi connection over bluetooth, not the cellular connection (because the Gear doesn't have Wi-Fi, but my phone does, and 95% of the time I'm indoors where I have much better Wi-Fi than cellular reception).
If it makes a difference, I bought my Nexus 4 directly from Google so it's stock ROM and rooted. If I have to change to some other ROM (e.g. Cyanogenmod) I'm willing to do that
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maybe just a few words from my side - why do you need a faster internet connection?
i mostly use it just to sync new data like calendar, or to do list. even slow internet is enough to do that, as it's not a lot of information to be exchanged. if you are planning on streaming videos or so, prepare that your gear will die quickly..
hurdlejade said:
maybe just a few words from my side - why do you need a faster internet connection?
i mostly use it just to sync new data like calendar, or to do list. even slow internet is enough to do that, as it's not a lot of information to be exchanged. if you are planning on streaming videos or so, prepare that your gear will die quickly..
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For light use, faster internet means the device wastes less CPU cycles waiting for responses. It's going over bluetooth either way, so better the device get the data in a fraction of a second than say 20-30 seconds (literally; I get only GPRS and occasionally EDGE in my office, never 3G or 4G, but I have flawless Wi-Fi). In those 20-30 seconds I could have pulled the phone out of my pocket to check what came through.
Although in all honesty I bought the Gear to hack with, and there are lots of crazy ideas I want to do with it that want a fast internet connection. Yes, the battery will die quickly, but that's the price of early adoption; I just want to hack for now and hope that when battery technology becomes better I can continue to be living with my futuristic apps. For now I can live with a charging cable down my sleeve and an external battery in my pocket, but I don't want to use USB tethering since I want it to still be able to go while disconnected.
wuxiekeji said:
Thanks! But why should it be limited by the carrier? I want to tether the actual Wi-Fi connection over bluetooth, not the cellular connection (because the Gear doesn't have Wi-Fi, but my phone does, and 95% of the time I'm indoors where I have much better Wi-Fi than cellular reception).
If it makes a difference, I bought my Nexus 4 directly from Google so it's stock ROM and rooted. If I have to change to some other ROM (e.g. Cyanogenmod) I'm willing to do that
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I meant carrier branded rom. But in theory, stock international roms should use wifi if connected, otherwise use data. Some roms don't allow wifi to be used for tethering (cellular data only)
Brendo said:
I meant carrier branded rom. But in theory, stock international roms should use wifi if connected, otherwise use data. Some roms don't allow wifi to be used for tethering (cellular data only)
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Brendo is right. Stock roms often have wifi tethering via bluetooth enabled and can switch back and forth as need. I have not experienced laser fast result with either but as you states "for your needs", look for a phone with native bluetooth tethering. One that works well and is cheap is the Galaxy Grand II. I have one and it worked well. I use a Note 2 now with native bluetooth tethering via Verizon and it works with 4G but not wifi. Maybe someone will chime in with an international rom that has this capability.
ronfurro said:
Brendo is right. Stock roms often have wifi tethering via bluetooth enabled and can switch back and forth as need. I have not experienced laser fast result with either but as you states "for your needs", look for a phone with native bluetooth tethering. One that works well and is cheap is the Galaxy Grand II. I have one and it worked well. I use a Note 2 now with native bluetooth tethering via Verizon and it works with 4G but not wifi. Maybe someone will chime in with an international rom that has this capability.
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Interesting. I have a Nexus 4 (directly from Google), and I'm surprised that if this feature exists that the Nexus 4 doesn't offer it. You'd think it'd be in Google's best interest given Glass and all.
wuxiekeji said:
Interesting. I have a Nexus 4 (directly from Google), and I'm surprised that if this feature exists that the Nexus 4 doesn't offer it. You'd think it'd be in Google's best interest given Glass and all.
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This is very true as unfortunatly in the US, native BT tethering is often blocked via Carriers who want to charge for it. In theory, this shouldnt be an issue with the Nexus line, curious if the Nexus 5 can... I can confirm, first hand that the technology does exist for wifi bluetooth tethering but it may be that no US phone has this feature enabled, to date. It should be noted that my Galaxy Grand was an international model, specifically the Latin model, not the India model. I could acutually use the phone without a sim card to serve up bluetooth PAN via home wifi to my old Motoactiv Smartwatch while I was screwing around in the house.
Faster Tethering?
wuxiekeji said:
Newbie here with the Gear, sorry if this has been asked before but I googled for a while.
I have a rooted Gear with Null ROM and rooted phone. Bluetooth tethering is awfully slow though when I'm indoors since my phone gets crappy 3G/4G reception, but I have solid Wi-Fi -- the phone's apps all work great through Wi-Fi, but the bluetooth tether insists on trying to use cellular data even though Wi-Fi is there.
Is there any way to allow the bluetooth tethering to use both the 3G/4G as well as the Wi-Fi connection, whatever the phone has available?
Thanks!
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You should include som info about the make and model of your phone if you wish people to help you....
Anyway, both my GalaxyS3 and my iPhone4S can easily be used to share WiFi with my Gear over Bluetooth. But it doesn't increase the speed much as this is limited by the BT bandwith between the phone and the Gear. Typically max 3Mb/s
I've got an N9005 rooted (X-Note 13) bluetooth tethering my null 23 gear, and on 4G I actually get speeds up to 5MB/sec, yet the gear rarely goes above 50kb/sec, which, for me, is too low even for a vague browsing . I highly doubt anything carrier specific, I just think bluetooth is slow...

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