There's a part of me that REALLY likes the idea of replacing my tablet, phone, and WiFi Router with a single device. Since I suspect a 10" would be too big to carry around with me, I am thinking about getting the Streak 7 4G and pairing it up with the T-Mobile 4G pre-paid plan at $30/mo for 100 minutes, unlimited text, and 5GB data.
I think I understand what compromises I'm making in terms of a tablet (I have previously owned an iPad, a Viewsonic G-Tablet, and iPad 2, and a Motorola Xoom while my wife has a Kindle fire). However, I am interested in finding out how well this works in terms of the other two uses. As a phone, I presume that while you COULD use it directly that most folks use a Bluetooth headset? If so, any recommendations? Also, anyone who has used a streak and a headset with Groove IP?
Then as a hotspot, I presume the T-mobile plan is ok with that. Does it give enough WiFi that it can reach from my desk to the desk across from me? Perhaps more important, does it allow me to setup WPA Personal with AES security?
Thanks in advance!
The DS7 can't do audio calling.
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The DS7 can't do audio calling.
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The T-mobile 4G one doesn't handle calls? Or are you saying it only will with the appropriate software (Groove IP) and a bluetooth headset - which was my understanding of what it has to do?
It cant make normal cell phone type calls, but it can be used for voip calls
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ok so im getting the nook this afternoon (if ups comes through) and ive been thinking one big compromise i made over the galaxy tab was 3g. I would love to use this in places other than the ones with wifi. I have an HTC heroC and the wireless card does not support being a wireless hotspot, so i am forced to use apps like barnacle wifi teather but the speeds are horrible. Now that we have BT working on the nook (thx devs!) could i use PDA net's "Bluetooth teather" option to tie my nook to my phones 3g?
The bluetooth isn't working on the nook. (the hacked roms have it barely working)
The only thing you can do is connect it thru wifi. I've got a Motorola Cliq and can turn my phone into a wifi hot spot that my nook can access.
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The bluetooth isn't working on the nook. (the hacked roms have it barely working)
The only thing you can do is connect it thru wifi. I've got a Motorola Cliq and can turn my phone into a wifi hot spot that my nook can access.
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Actually this is completely incorrect. CM7 roms have it working relatively well. I cann get about 6 feet of distance with it now so if your holding your nook and your phones in your pocket I dont see why it wouldn't work.
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HI,
Sounds like some people have a non-user friendly method of getting Bluetooth
tethering running from Nook Color running CM7 to cell phone via bluetooth.
Haven't tried it myself yet. See these threads in developer section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12090324&postcount=240
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897934&page=31
Hope this helps.
Peter
sorry this information is wrong or outdated - i use BT gps and headset with my CM7 based nook color
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The bluetooth isn't working on the nook. (the hacked roms have it barely working)
The only thing you can do is connect it thru wifi. I've got a Motorola Cliq and can turn my phone into a wifi hot spot that my nook can access.
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Not to mention that the absolute last way CyanogenMod should be referred to is "hacked."
I'm still on CM7 19 and bluetooth is working well! However, I have not gotten BT tethering working at all (haven't tried much, bcuz wifi works well for me). Wondering why you get such bad speeds via WiFi tether? I have an OG Droid and I get good speeds.
I suggest trying out Wifi tether first and see how it works.
I'm hoping someone can answer my related question here about my phone.
I currently have the Samsung Moment, and no matter what ROM I use for my NC, I can't get it to see my tethered connection in the Available Networks.
My NC can see my friend's tethered connection on his HTC Touch Pro 2, and Nexus One, so I have a feeling it's got something to do with my phone.
Anyone with experience with the Samsung Moment--do you have any input as to a ROM that might make this work?
Thanks in advance.
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I'm hoping someone can answer my related question here about my phone.
I currently have the Samsung Moment, and no matter what ROM I use for my NC, I can't get it to see my tethered connection in the Available Networks.
My NC can see my friend's tethered connection on his HTC Touch Pro 2, and Nexus One, so I have a feeling it's got something to do with my phone.
Anyone with experience with the Samsung Moment--do you have any input as to a ROM that might make this work?
Thanks in advance.
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Most of the NC ROMS do not support Ad-hoc wifi networks right off the bat. If you're not sure if you have an ad-hoc network or not, try and tether your phone to your computer and you should be able to tell on there. If it is an ad-hoc issue, follow the instructions in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868354
I too have a HTC HeroC and both it and my Nook are running CM7, AOSP build for the phone and Phiremods build for the nook. I have no problem using Wireless Tether to use my phone as a hotspot, I do so just about every day at work to brows the internet on lunch, speeds have been fine, can watch Youtube stuff and listen to internet radio just fine.
I use Wifi Tethering for Root Users on my Epic and it works great with my NC.
Hello everybody..I have weirdest question, weirdest because it seems nobody asked it before, which means I'm blind or dumb or both not to know. I just gave away new Archos 70 after ten days, not being happy with speed and such and exchange it for Galaxy Tab. So my only experience with Android comes from those 10 day with Archos, still it seems so intuitive. How do I get the Tab online?
I mean, I have one of those without 3G module and public wifi sux so it's obvious to have your tablet/PDA connected to your mobile phone over bluetooth, isn't it? Where is this tethering option which I used on Archos?
Nothing, really? Do you all have a 3G module equiped model..? Maybe I should exchange it one more time.:-/
Not sure why ppl get the wifi version, when it is so much fun to use the SGT as a phone and tab.
The only option you have with current tab is to run with wifi thru AP's or hotspots.
I would exchange for the 3G version if you have the banana's
Thanks, StarLog. Well, honestly, wifi version is way cheaper here, but that's not the only reason. I definitely do not plan to use it as a phone, I have my phone already and this is tablet. I am not going to carry it with me on every step as I do with my phone. Also, I already have data plan with my provider, why should I buy a second one especially when providers here do not mind at all? And bluetooth data connection is very common thing, I just can't believe it is not available with Galaxy.
Why bluetooth and not wifi ? Tethering is working fine. All you have to do is activate the mobile hotspot on your phone then connect the tab to it. I tried with a gsm gtab and a htc hd2 with android.
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Actually, I don't use my tab as a phone, bt I do want the always on experience, opting me to go after the 3G one. For the hotspot, you can root your tab, and then grab the wifi tether app.
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Actually, I don't use my tab as a phone, bt I do want the always on experience, opting me to go after the 3G one. For the hotspot, you can root your tab, and then grab the wifi tether app.
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Doesn't your Tab have the standard WiFi Hotspot?
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Dave
Has anyone been able to make phone calls with a phone that is using the Dell Streak 7 4G as a wi-fi hotspot? In other words, lets say I normally use my Streak 7 as a wi-fi tablet in the house, but when taking it out of the house I'd pop in the SIM from my T-Mobile phone in order to get data on the Streak, and set the Streak to be a wi-fi hotspot, then still use my phone to make calls (receive data, etc.) via wi-fi.
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Has anyone been able to make phone calls with a phone that is using the Dell Streak 7 4G as a wi-fi hotspot? In other words, lets say I normally use my Streak 7 as a wi-fi tablet in the house, but when taking it out of the house I'd pop in the SIM from my T-Mobile phone in order to get data on the Streak, and set the Streak to be a wi-fi hotspot, then still use my phone to make calls (receive data, etc.) via wi-fi.
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When you set the S7 to be a WiFi hotspot, you can do with it anything you could do with any other WiFi hotspot.
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Has anyone been able to make phone calls with a phone that is using the Dell Streak 7 4G as a wi-fi hotspot? In other words, lets say I normally use my Streak 7 as a wi-fi tablet in the house, but when taking it out of the house I'd pop in the SIM from my T-Mobile phone in order to get data on the Streak, and set the Streak to be a wi-fi hotspot, then still use my phone to make calls (receive data, etc.) via wi-fi.
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seriously ?... the "hotspot" is for DATA ONLY... the only way you would be able to use a phone is with skype or something like Vonage.... its not a microcell....
additionally, you may have to have a data plan that allows for the hot spot to be enabled. AT&T restricts the use of the hot spot to phones/contracts that provide for tethering....
UMA
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seriously ?... the "hotspot" is for DATA ONLY... the only way you would be able to use a phone is with skype or something like Vonage.... its not a microcell....
additionally, you may have to have a data plan that allows for the hot spot to be enabled. AT&T restricts the use of the hot spot to phones/contracts that provide for tethering....
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Seriously. T-Mobile does nice things that AT&T won't let you - like make phone calls over wi-fi connections, as if they were microcells. It's called UMA. I use it every day and it's wonderful. Apparently it can work over bluetooth too:
umatechnology.org/overview
What are your thoughts?
Network connections don't replace the need and use of a Cell Phone. At least not for me. I need reliable voice and text... Network access is iffy many times. If you travel network access with a Hotspot is even more iffy.
I have a 4G Hotspot, Nexus 7 and HTC Rezound.
Not everywhere I go has wifi sadly :/ But I wouldn't mind using a Nexus 7 with Google Voice + Groove IP
I have thought often about it. But not sure how much data a phone call would consume.
Nope, never really considered it. I have my Rezound rooted so I just tether and use my unlimited 4G
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If you care not about being reachable all of the time then I guess it would be an alternative...
What are MIFIs like these days? Its been a while since I last used one but I used to hate how long it would take to establish a connection to the Internet what with the time for the MIFI to connect and then the MIFI to device handshake.
There is something to be said for the convenience of having a dedicated connection to the Internet on a tablet rather than having to rely on hot spots. Even tethering has its downsides in terms of connection times and battery drain etc.
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I've considered it, as well. However, I like buying new phones and messing with them. Also, too many times I've tried to call people that have Google Voice and it takes too long to make contact with them.
Newbie here with the Gear, sorry if this has been asked before but I googled for a while.
I have a rooted Gear with Null ROM and rooted phone. Bluetooth tethering is awfully slow though when I'm indoors since my phone gets crappy 3G/4G reception, but I have solid Wi-Fi -- the phone's apps all work great through Wi-Fi, but the bluetooth tether insists on trying to use cellular data even though Wi-Fi is there.
Is there any way to allow the bluetooth tethering to use both the 3G/4G as well as the Wi-Fi connection, whatever the phone has available?
Thanks!
It's limited to whatever your phone rom allows. E.g. international stock rom allows tethering via Wi-Fi where as most carrier rounds will only work with cellular data (if it is even an option)
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It's limited to whatever your phone rom allows. E.g. international stock rom allows tethering via Wi-Fi where as most carrier rounds will only work with cellular data (if it is even an option)
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Thanks! But why should it be limited by the carrier? I want to tether the actual Wi-Fi connection over bluetooth, not the cellular connection (because the Gear doesn't have Wi-Fi, but my phone does, and 95% of the time I'm indoors where I have much better Wi-Fi than cellular reception).
If it makes a difference, I bought my Nexus 4 directly from Google so it's stock ROM and rooted. If I have to change to some other ROM (e.g. Cyanogenmod) I'm willing to do that
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Thanks! But why should it be limited by the carrier? I want to tether the actual Wi-Fi connection over bluetooth, not the cellular connection (because the Gear doesn't have Wi-Fi, but my phone does, and 95% of the time I'm indoors where I have much better Wi-Fi than cellular reception).
If it makes a difference, I bought my Nexus 4 directly from Google so it's stock ROM and rooted. If I have to change to some other ROM (e.g. Cyanogenmod) I'm willing to do that
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maybe just a few words from my side - why do you need a faster internet connection?
i mostly use it just to sync new data like calendar, or to do list. even slow internet is enough to do that, as it's not a lot of information to be exchanged. if you are planning on streaming videos or so, prepare that your gear will die quickly..
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maybe just a few words from my side - why do you need a faster internet connection?
i mostly use it just to sync new data like calendar, or to do list. even slow internet is enough to do that, as it's not a lot of information to be exchanged. if you are planning on streaming videos or so, prepare that your gear will die quickly..
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For light use, faster internet means the device wastes less CPU cycles waiting for responses. It's going over bluetooth either way, so better the device get the data in a fraction of a second than say 20-30 seconds (literally; I get only GPRS and occasionally EDGE in my office, never 3G or 4G, but I have flawless Wi-Fi). In those 20-30 seconds I could have pulled the phone out of my pocket to check what came through.
Although in all honesty I bought the Gear to hack with, and there are lots of crazy ideas I want to do with it that want a fast internet connection. Yes, the battery will die quickly, but that's the price of early adoption; I just want to hack for now and hope that when battery technology becomes better I can continue to be living with my futuristic apps. For now I can live with a charging cable down my sleeve and an external battery in my pocket, but I don't want to use USB tethering since I want it to still be able to go while disconnected.
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Thanks! But why should it be limited by the carrier? I want to tether the actual Wi-Fi connection over bluetooth, not the cellular connection (because the Gear doesn't have Wi-Fi, but my phone does, and 95% of the time I'm indoors where I have much better Wi-Fi than cellular reception).
If it makes a difference, I bought my Nexus 4 directly from Google so it's stock ROM and rooted. If I have to change to some other ROM (e.g. Cyanogenmod) I'm willing to do that
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I meant carrier branded rom. But in theory, stock international roms should use wifi if connected, otherwise use data. Some roms don't allow wifi to be used for tethering (cellular data only)
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I meant carrier branded rom. But in theory, stock international roms should use wifi if connected, otherwise use data. Some roms don't allow wifi to be used for tethering (cellular data only)
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Brendo is right. Stock roms often have wifi tethering via bluetooth enabled and can switch back and forth as need. I have not experienced laser fast result with either but as you states "for your needs", look for a phone with native bluetooth tethering. One that works well and is cheap is the Galaxy Grand II. I have one and it worked well. I use a Note 2 now with native bluetooth tethering via Verizon and it works with 4G but not wifi. Maybe someone will chime in with an international rom that has this capability.
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Brendo is right. Stock roms often have wifi tethering via bluetooth enabled and can switch back and forth as need. I have not experienced laser fast result with either but as you states "for your needs", look for a phone with native bluetooth tethering. One that works well and is cheap is the Galaxy Grand II. I have one and it worked well. I use a Note 2 now with native bluetooth tethering via Verizon and it works with 4G but not wifi. Maybe someone will chime in with an international rom that has this capability.
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Interesting. I have a Nexus 4 (directly from Google), and I'm surprised that if this feature exists that the Nexus 4 doesn't offer it. You'd think it'd be in Google's best interest given Glass and all.
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Interesting. I have a Nexus 4 (directly from Google), and I'm surprised that if this feature exists that the Nexus 4 doesn't offer it. You'd think it'd be in Google's best interest given Glass and all.
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This is very true as unfortunatly in the US, native BT tethering is often blocked via Carriers who want to charge for it. In theory, this shouldnt be an issue with the Nexus line, curious if the Nexus 5 can... I can confirm, first hand that the technology does exist for wifi bluetooth tethering but it may be that no US phone has this feature enabled, to date. It should be noted that my Galaxy Grand was an international model, specifically the Latin model, not the India model. I could acutually use the phone without a sim card to serve up bluetooth PAN via home wifi to my old Motoactiv Smartwatch while I was screwing around in the house.
Faster Tethering?
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Newbie here with the Gear, sorry if this has been asked before but I googled for a while.
I have a rooted Gear with Null ROM and rooted phone. Bluetooth tethering is awfully slow though when I'm indoors since my phone gets crappy 3G/4G reception, but I have solid Wi-Fi -- the phone's apps all work great through Wi-Fi, but the bluetooth tether insists on trying to use cellular data even though Wi-Fi is there.
Is there any way to allow the bluetooth tethering to use both the 3G/4G as well as the Wi-Fi connection, whatever the phone has available?
Thanks!
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You should include som info about the make and model of your phone if you wish people to help you....
Anyway, both my GalaxyS3 and my iPhone4S can easily be used to share WiFi with my Gear over Bluetooth. But it doesn't increase the speed much as this is limited by the BT bandwith between the phone and the Gear. Typically max 3Mb/s
I've got an N9005 rooted (X-Note 13) bluetooth tethering my null 23 gear, and on 4G I actually get speeds up to 5MB/sec, yet the gear rarely goes above 50kb/sec, which, for me, is too low even for a vague browsing . I highly doubt anything carrier specific, I just think bluetooth is slow...