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[Q] Why does everyone use odin

I understand that Odin is a very, very (let me re-state that), extremely popular method of returning the phone to stock.
However, a small handful of us users don't use Odin. I know I don't, I can't. I run Ubuntu and must use heimdall. So, why not include instructions for heimdall? It runs on windows and linux.

I second this; since heimdall is like custom ROMs "based on samsung/stock but made way better by someone at XDA" And we're starting to see that it works with SGS2 as well(after a tiny id tweak).
Sure it takes a little more understanding to use, but is that really a bad thing?

Plain and simple answer?? People like easy.

Even Odin is too complicated for some of the people here. Idk how many times I've had to describe the difference between odin one click and the full odin. If they can't figure out that if you have to do anything other than hit the start button it's not one click, heimdall will make their brains explode.
Plus throwing another program in there that's even slightly more complicated to a panicked noob who has just (mod edit) his phone up because he didn't know what he was doing would not be the easiest course for the person who is trying help.

studacris said:
Even Odin is too complicated for some of the people here. Idk how many times I've had to describe the difference between odin one click and the full odin. If they can't figure out that if you have to do anything other than hit the start button it's not one click, heimdall will make their brains explode.
Plus throwing another program in there that's even slightly more complicated to a panicked noob who has just ****ed his phone up because he didn't know what he was doing would not be the easiest course for the person who is trying help.
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What's the difference between one click and full? /sarcasm lol

Think about this:
How many newbs actually attempt to mod their phone with a rom first? I know I didn't, I actually went after rooting my phone first.
I know there's a process for heimdall and odin (one click and full 1.87). After rooting, they start to dabble in roms. Most of which can be installed via odin or heimdall.
So, why not ask those wonderful dev's to post the install info twice(easy odin or more in-depth heimdall). Sorry, I know it's a bit more work, but people that don't have access to odin will be even more greatful (perhaps even get more donations).
Just two more cents added to the thought.

FroztIkon said:
Think about this:
How many newbs actually attempt to mod their phone with a rom first? I know I didn't, I actually went after rooting my phone first.
I know there's a process for heimdall and odin (one click and full 1.87). After rooting, they start to dabble in roms. Most of which can be installed via odin or heimdall.
So, why not ask those wonderful dev's to post the install info twice(easy odin or more in-depth heimdall). Sorry, I know it's a bit more work, but people that don't have access to odin will be even more greatful (perhaps even get more donations).
Just two more cents added to the thought.
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Com'on really?!? Ppl who dont have acces to odin r uber noobs It's all about intrest,if u care about ur phone u'll treat it right by taking less risks with it but unfortunately there r to many noobs who take things 4 granted and make the devs life difficult.The fashion is Odin like it or not u'll have to weare it. Nice thought thou

I'm with op on this. I found heimdall, but couldn't find any stock roms to flash if anything goes bad. I don't have windows, refuse to buy it, and my machine caouldnt run a vm to save its life.
If the devs are too strained for time to make a heimdall post, could they at least make a post that links to a half decent guide?
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hal.jordan said:
I'm with op on this. I found heimdall, but couldn't find any stock roms to flash if anything goes bad. I don't have windows, refuse to buy it, and my machine caouldnt run a vm to save its life.
If the devs are too strained for time to make a heimdall post, could they at least make a post that links to a half decent guide?
Sent from Planet Oa.
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you guys dont realize that heimdall packages are just the img files that are in the odin packages??
excuse me....its the RFS, param.lfs, bin and zImage files that complete the package.....

Pirateghost said:
you guys dont realize that heimdall packages are just the img files that are in the odin packages??
excuse me....its the RFS, param.lfs, bin and zImage files that complete the package.....
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Yeah. All you need to do is unzip the odin files and its all there for heimdal. I only use Linux so im used to it. Plus never was a fan of odin.....

I searched for two days, at least now ill know if I fubar something u can fix it.
Where does it say this?
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hal.jordan said:
I searched for two days, at least now ill know if I fubar something u can fix it.
Where does it say this?
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http://tinyurl.com/3b238vk
take your pick of information.
there is the original XDA thread on it, not that informative
there is the official website, has fkn screenshots of the GUI....from that I actually figured out on my own which files it needed
then there is a link to samsunggalaxysforum that has instructions on how to use it...
all found by googling.......remarkable aint it?

Heimdall Guide!!
Lol I was bored so I made a guide!
--> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113195

its just so easy, odin tht is!

Odin and Windows 7
For those using Windows 7 and Odin, here was something I just found out. You need (should) use Windows XP service pack 2 compatibility mode and administrator mode with it. It will stop Factoryfs.rfs from locking up.
Quick Windows lesson: right click on odin, troubleshoot compatibility, "Troubleshoot program",select The program worked in earlier versions of Windows but won't install or run now - next, select Windows XP (Service pack 2), Start program, and follow the rest of the selections to close

Pirateghost said:
http://tinyurl.com/3b238vk
take your pick of information.
there is the original XDA thread on it, not that informative
there is the official website, has fkn screenshots of the GUI....from that I actually figured out on my own which files it needed
then there is a link to samsunggalaxysforum that has instructions on how to use it...
all found by googling.......remarkable aint it?
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There's no need to be an ass about it. This *IS* the q&a part of the forum. You shouldn't expect everyone here to be as fully omnipotent as you seem to think of yourself.
If you dont feel like contributing, you shouldn't be in a forum.
And for your information, It is easy to tell what files are needed, but it is not broadcast to the clouds where to get the correct files. I'm not about to risk downloading just anything to put on my phone. I rely on it too much for that. There's a reason warez aren't allowed here.

hal.jordan said:
There's no need to be an ass about it. This *IS* the q&a part of the forum. You shouldn't expect everyone here to be as fully omnipotent as you seem to think of yourself.
If you dont feel like contributing, you shouldn't be in a forum.
And for your information, It is easy to tell what files are needed, but it is not broadcast to the clouds where to get the correct files. I'm not about to risk downloading just anything to put on my phone. I rely on it too much for that. There's a reason warez aren't allowed here.
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cool story bro.
the reason for the sarcasm is that so many people are coming here to get spoonfed the **** that other people learned by doing their own fkn research...all the info is already here in these forums, but so many people are just fkn lazy and its annoying that people get pissed because others dont hand them the fkn info on a silver platter.

Notice I didn't ask to be spoonfed information. I asked where it was. I still haven't found where it tells you to use Odin to flash your phone through heimdall. Just that heimdall is there.
Now pull your head out of your ass and say(type) something useful or ignore the post.
[Note to op, my apologies for hijacking your thread I only intended to further the discussion and share of information]
Sent from Planet Oa.

hal.jordan said:
Notice I didn't ask to be spoonfed information. I asked where it was. I still haven't found where it tells you to use Odin to flash your phone through heimdall. Just that heimdall is there.
Now pull your head out of your ass and say(type) something useful or ignore the post.
[Note to op, my apologies for hijacking your thread I only intended to further the discussion and share of information]
Sent from Planet Oa.
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you DONT USE ODIN!! havent you read a fkn word?
the FILES you need are in the ODIN tar file....
lets just think about this for a damn minute...
HEIMDALL is an opensource version of ODIN meant to be multi platform....so logic says that its going to use the same ODIN files...other wise why make a tool that takes a special set of files that nobody has??
christ, its simple LOGIC here. i know that concept fails so many people....

Ok guys enough. This thread has become bickering back and forth. Please do your research as all the info is there, you just need to find it.
Thread closed

First Attempt at Modding my Samsung Captivate…..

I just got my first REAL smartphone, actually it’s still on FedEx truck.
From reading the stickies on this forum, here’s what I gathered so far (and I am starting from scratch – nothing on my phone yet)
1) Root my phone with the ‘OneClick’ tool.
2) Install ROM (I am thinking Cognition, since it’s recommended for beginner).
3) Install Theme (haven’t decide on one yet) – any suggestions?
So, am I missing anything?

You seem to have a good grasp on what you are doing. I do recommend buying/making a Jig to have around just in case.

You're well on your way.
Make sure and read up on bootloaders and the difference between 2.1/2.2 and 2.3 bootloaders as getting this wrong is the main thing that can lead to "big" trouble.
Also take a look at Odin, Odin One Click return to stock and make sure and know the difference between those and the Odin One Click w/3 Button Combo.

thanks guys, i think i have a good idea of what i want to do but i am still struggling to find the details to do the above.
for example, what difference if my phone batch is 1010, or 1012, or older?
do i need to get an microsd card, if so what size/brand?
what sofware do i need to download?
etc, etc. etc.
i will continue to browse through the forums, but if you know of any links please post.
also, what does the jig do? do i need to have one?
thanks

First decide what u want to do, As u stated first root the phone and then u want a custom ROM, So go ahead and try it.
Only thing i will advice start from a froyo rom then to the gingerbread as there would be less chances to brick your phone while flashing the b.loades.
Read the OP properly of the ROM which you want to flash there are many good froyo rom available here. But just be sure what u are doing.

Please for the love of all things unholy, read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1049294
and if the phone comes with froyo you will need this after rooting before flashing a rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052991

At the start DEFINITE GUIDE TO BRICKING, LOL.
Its just a joke be sure you read it all.

rkkaranrk said:
First decide what u want to do, As u stated first root the phone and then u want a custom ROM, So go ahead and try it.
Only thing i will advice start from a froyo rom then to the gingerbread as there would be less chances to brick your phone while flashing the b.loades.
Read the OP properly of the ROM which you want to flash there are many good froyo rom available here. But just be sure what u are doing.
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thanks, yes from what i've read it's better to stay away from the gingerbread roms - at least for novice like myself.

My personal favorite were Firefly 3.0 and serendipity 6.4 links below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900568
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914284
Again i will say read the OP carefully before flashing.

I have a few Captivates in the family and IMHO the first thinkg to do before flashing anything is to purchase Root Explorer in the market (for around $4) then back up your EFS folder (in the main directory) and save it to a cd so you ALWAYS have a hard copy of it. These files are specific to your phone and if they get screwed up during flashing, you phone may not be able to be used as a phone anymore. The back up copy will save you.
All of the above stuff is good. I was a noob about 6 months ago but I spent hours upon hours of reading and watching videos about flashing and moding. Good luck!

rkkaranrk said:
My personal favorite were Firefly 3.0 and serendipity 6.4 links below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900568
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914284
Again i will say read the OP carefully before flashing.
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thanks, but what do you mean "read the OP carefully"

jack man said:
I have a few Captivates in the family and IMHO the first thinkg to do before flashing anything is to purchase Root Explorer in the market (for around $4) then back up your EFS folder (in the main directory) and save it to a cd so you ALWAYS have a hard copy of it. These files are specific to your phone and if they get screwed up during flashing, you phone may not be able to be used as a phone anymore. The back up copy will save you.
All of the above stuff is good. I was a noob about 6 months ago but I spent hours upon hours of reading and watching videos about flashing and moding. Good luck!
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great, these are what i love to hear.
things to do, or not to do, before modding/flashing.

smokarz said:
thanks, but what do you mean "read the OP carefully"
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the OP is the original post or poster, like your first question is the op, and you are also the op of the thread. in that context he meant the original post, because that will have most of the information about the rom...but i would expand on that to read the op and the a couple of pages in, and also if its a large thread with alot of posts read atleast the LAST 5 or 6 pages also.
anymore terms you are unfamiliar with read the op of this thread carefully: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1093062

thanks for clarying.
just got my phone in the mail.
i looked at the batch number under the battery slot and it shows 1106.
does this mean i have version 2.1 or 2.2? what would be the appropriate app/tool for rooting?
thanks

The batch had nothing to do with the firmware....that just means your phone was built in june of 2011. But since it's a new phone it more than likely has 2.2 confirm this in settings>about phone> firmware version.
Use super one click to root.
BUT FIRST PLEASE READ SOME MORE.
All of the information you are looking is already on here at the very least twice probably WAY more.

it is indeed version 2.2

so i read the first page of this thread and also watched the youtube clip. it looks straight enough to root. but i got a question. should i run the universal root or the captivate root?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682&page=442

smokarz said:
so i read the first page of this thread and also watched the youtube clip. it looks straight enough to root. but i got a question. should i run the universal root or the captivate root?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682&page=442
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I would use SuperOneClick to root 2.2, however, the only version that was successful for me was version 1.6.5. The newer versions gave me errors or said FAILED when trying to root. For me, it has always worked with 1.6.5

thanks, but i only see v1.7 and v1.95. where can i get v1.65?
also, i do not need the samsung driver for rooting right? only for flashing?

smokarz said:
thanks, but i only see v1.7 and v1.95. where can i get v1.65?
also, i do not need the samsung driver for rooting right? only for flashing?
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You should have the driver installed on your computer for anything you do with the phone. Make sure after you install drivers to plug in your phone to the computer in all the different modes it has - in debugging mode, not in debug mode, in download mode, and connecting as an external drive. The computer will install all the drivers when you do this.
I will try to attach v1.6.5 of Super One CLick. I hope it's ok with the moderators here that I am posting the software. Just unzip the folder and double click the android icon in that folder.

[Q] How to update my phone's firmware?

Hi there guys. As you probably noticed,i'm new here,so pardon me if my question sounds noobish at the time,but I promise I'll learn from you guys! Thanks!
So,the question's simple. How do I update my phone's firmware? Don't wanna brick or possibly damage my phone here,as I just bought a couple of days ago. So,is there any risk to update the phone's firmware? Thanks bros!

Have you use search features before asking this question?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1111771

Yeah,saw that already,but it seems to convoluted for me. I need a one-to-one kinda reply. Honestly,I didn't understand anything that was written on that page. So,could please someone clarify it in a more simple,noobish,way?
Thanks bro!

pdf guides are included in the kit. just follow them

either you can use KDZ or R&D for the official
or flash any custom ROM with CWM
(the tutor is already out there)
and the risk ? bootloop or brick maybe

Thanks bros! And another thing,what are custom ROMs? I keep hearing about it like Cyanogen? What's the upside for using it?

Laier94 said:
Thanks bros! And another thing,what are custom ROMs? I keep hearing about it like Cyanogen? What's the upside for using it?
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Custom roms in simple terms are unofficial versions of the o/s modified or "cooked" by people who want to add or remove certain features or performance tweaks. The upside is you can find a ROM that suits your usage and aesthetic preferences. For more info read through some ROM threads and compare their features.
However there is always a chance something could go wrong even if you know what you are doing. So my advice would be to read and re read the instructions from rooting to flashing radios to flashing roms and look up the termanology until you think you understand and then read it all again. There are some good guides around that can givevyou the basics.
Otherwise you can wait until your carrier releases a official update.
Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515m using xda premium

Thanks for clarifying bros!
And another thing,I just saw this vid at Youtube.
It's called "How To Install CyanogenMod 7 On Your Android Device"
I can't post the link here because im still new,haha!
Is it really that easy to install Cyanogenmod on your phone? But your phone have to be rooted first,right?
I saw the list with the firmware from various countries,but not mine,Malaysia. How do I solve this? I'm still suck with V10-a,which i think is the oldest firmware for OB.
Also,what are these baseband,kernel and build number thingies? Anything important? Thanks! Really starting to get interested in these things!

I think the following is related to malayians so you have to use an indonesian firmware :
http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/csmg/b2c/client/tool_mode_country_check.jsp?model=LGP970&country=MY
- you can flash firmwares anytime whatever the situation
- to flash a ROM (cyanogen, nova...) you need the custom recovery mod called ClockworkMod alias CWM (available on the market via ROM Manager app, or my kit)
- and for CWM, root access is needed
once phone is rooted and CWM installed, phone potential is extended to the infinite. you can then install a lot of useful apps of more and customize your phone.
I think the general goal of all of that, is to optimize and extend possibilities as far as possible and then you'll be able to say that you "truly own" your phone

Thanks for clearing that up bro. BTW,would you recommend me using Gingerbreak to root my phone? Since i'm using an older firmware,it should be ok,right?

no problem, blackjack should do it too. do as your feeling

Ilko said:
no problem, blackjack should do it too. do as your feeling
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Thanks bro! Anyway,anything else I should know and do before I root my phone? Like should I do a factory reset,battery level 100% or something?

2 steps : root, flash recovery.
know that you'll have to use an app to boot into recovery (ROM manager, anreboot, ezboot...) take a look at my thread for more infos

Ilko said:
2 steps : root, flash recovery.
know that you'll have to use an app to boot into recovery (ROM manager, anreboot, ezboot...) take a look at my thread for more infos
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Great! Cool bro,thanks! And sorry for the stupid question,but what are KDZs?

firmware files are in .kdz format

Ilko said:
firmware files are in .kdz format
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Ouh,wow,did that felt stupid,haha. So what you're saying is,after rooting my phone,I should get to installing ClockWorkMod Recovery,am I right? And the only way to install it is using the computer,connect it with the phone,and execute the UPK that you have provided in your download link. After that,I use the app,EzBoot,to boot into recovery mode,is this correct?
After that,what will I do in the recovery mode? Thankies again!

all right. as I said earlier, the recovery mode extends phone potential in an easy way. many ROMs and mods must be did via recovery. in fact, CWM helps you flashing files, roms, doing backups/restorations and more. jump the step and see by yourself.
don't forget to backup before anything

Ilko said:
all right. as I said earlier, the recovery mode extends phone potential in an easy way. many ROMs and mods must be did via recovery. in fact, CWM helps you flashing files, roms, doing backups/restorations and more. jump the step and see by yourself.
don't forget to backup before anything
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By backing up,you mean backing up contacts and internal memory stuffs,right?
All right! Will root my phone as soon as my charge hits 100%! Using gingerbreak! Is the root reverse-able? I mean,can I unroot my phone once I root it?

you don't need 100% battery as long phone is plugged. for now, blackjack doesn't have a reverse process. but gingerbreak, yes, considering the fact you stay on v10a/b. you may try with the new superoneclick. the most radical method is still flashing a firmware (so you'll lose all stuffs)
and yes, backup any saveable thing. although CWM saves all datas, more safety is more safe

Ilko said:
you don't need 100% battery as long phone is plugged. for now, blackjack doesn't have a reverse process. but gingerbreak, yes, considering the fact you stay on v10a/b. you may try with the new superoneclick. the most radical method is still flashing a firmware (so you'll lose all stuffs)
and yes, backup any saveable thing. although CWM saves all datas, more safety is more safe
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Sorry bro,can't quite understand you here. Flashing firmware? For what? I'm just gonna root my phone right? No need to flash,right?

[Q] Can't download files on this site

I heard something recently about fileshare sites being shut down...is that what I'm experiencing. Tried to download files from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359068 and none of the links work. Actually a couple did but said I could only download a file I uploaded myself. I tried downloading from another thread on this site and had the same problem. Any solutions/alternatives? How can I download from the link I posted above?
Thanks!

Firecracker_RC said:
I heard something recently about fileshare sites being shut down...is that what I'm experiencing. Tried to download files from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359068 and none of the links work. Actually a couple did but said I could only download a file I uploaded myself. I tried downloading from another thread on this site and had the same problem. Any solutions/alternatives? How can I download from the link I posted above?
Thanks!
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I see a KJ4 link. Have you tried the KJ5 thread? It's the newest one for our 7310.

Hi nirogu325, thanks for replying. This is what I am trying to do:
-Enable adhoc connection so I can use my windows mobile phone as a hotspot for my tabl, and
-Enable USB charging for my tab in my car and elsewhere, not just wall jack.
Based on what I've read, I need busybox (Titanium back up says it's installed but when I downloaded an app called wifiadhocenabler, it says it is not installed. Installing it from the market says I need Nand Unlock and this is where I'm stuck at the moment. Do you know how to perform this on the P7310? Or an easier way to meet the objectives above?
Thanks again

Firecracker_RC said:
Hi nirogu325, thanks for replying. This is what I am trying to do:
-Enable adhoc connection so I can use my windows mobile phone as a hotspot for my tabl, and
-Enable USB charging for my tab in my car and elsewhere, not just wall jack.
Based on what I've read, I need busybox (Titanium back up says it's installed but when I downloaded an app called wifiadhocenabler, it says it is not installed. Installing it from the market says I need Nand Unlock and this is where I'm stuck at the moment. Do you know how to perform this on the P7310? Or an easier way to meet the objectives above?
Thanks again
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I assume you're on a stock firmware. If I were you, I'd flash this specific version which is already rooted and has busybox as you can read in the OP. Also, flash the v2d version of the motley kernel and go here for the USB charging script and instructions on enabling. I know that last link is for the 10.1, but it is the one motley linked to in the v2b version changelog in his kernel thread.

After my soft brick yesterday, I used Odin to "install" the version you attached in your General Guide post P310XARKJ5_P7310UEKJ5_HOME.tar.md5). That's the one, right?
Anyway, the good news is, I decided to install BusyBox without doing the Nand Unlock (maybe it was already done?), and it worked! The wifiadhocenabler app works now and I have a connection to my wm phone! Yay! Before trying the app (for the sake of onlookers) I tried the other method with the wpa_supplicant, such as the one here: http://androidtablethacks.com/android-tablet-hacks/how-to-enable-adhoc-wifi-on-android-tablets/ and it did not work for me. The app did!
So now, I'll try the kernel you posted above and then the USB charging.
I'm going to look over your general guide to see if I can figure out how to flash. I'm guessing it's the same or similar to when I recovered my tab in Odin...?

Firecracker_RC said:
After my soft brick yesterday, I used Odin to "install" the version you attached in your General Guide post P310XARKJ5_P7310UEKJ5_HOME.tar.md5). That's the one, right?
Anyway, the good news is, I decided to install BusyBox without doing the Nand Unlock (maybe it was already done?), and it worked! The wifiadhocenabler app works now and I have a connection to my wm phone! Yay! Before trying the app (for the sake of onlookers) I tried the other method with the wpa_supplicant, such as the one here: http://androidtablethacks.com/android-tablet-hacks/how-to-enable-adhoc-wifi-on-android-tablets/ and it did not work for me. The app did!
So now, I'll try the kernel you posted above and then the USB charging.
I'm going to look over your general guide to see if I can figure out how to flash. I'm guessing it's the same or similar to when I recovered my tab in Odin...?
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If you mean flashing a CWM package as the motley kernel, a file goes in the SDcard, you access the CWM Recovery and flash. That's a generic way BUT depending on what you will flash you may have to wipe. That's why I avoided altogether putting generic instructions regarding CWM packages in my guide (instructions may vary between ROM and kernels). Read your flashable package's thread carefully.

kind of like rooting? Yes, do I have to wipe to flash the motley kernel? I'm not seeing the flashable packages thread, can you point me to it?

Firecracker_RC said:
kind of like rooting? Yes, do I have to wipe to flash the motley kernel? I'm not seeing the flashable packages thread, can you point me to it?
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No, lol. If you want to flash the motley kernel just follow that thread's instructions. I gave you the motley kernel thread link in a previous post. For kernels, no wipe is necessary, for ROMs, yes.

Ok, thank you. lol

Firecracker_RC said:
Ok, thank you. lol
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You're welcome. Some people have the tendency NOT to wipe while flashing ROMs...yet complain later on the road. Always wipe when it comes to ROMs if you want to avoid issues. The only bugs you will experience are the ones that come with the ROM already. Better safe than sorry.

Ah, that leads me to wonder...When my tab was soft bricked and I used Odin3 and inserted the KJ5 file into the PDA section, and so on (I think that was flashing), was I supposed to do a wipe before I did that? If so, would it be better if I started from scratch again? ...hoping not, but better now than latter I'm thinking.

Firecracker_RC said:
Ah, that leads me to wonder...When my tab was soft bricked and I used Odin3 and inserted the KJ5 file into the PDA section, and so on (I think that was flashing), was I supposed to do a wipe before I did that? If so, would it be better if I started from scratch again? ...hoping not, but better now than latter I'm thinking.
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No. ODIN clears everything (including kernels, ROMs and CWM Recoveries). Everything back to stock. I was just referring to flashing other custom ROMs (non-ODIN, i.e. CWM flashable) procedures. Stick to the thread instructions in your chosen ROM and you'll be fine. It's just that some don't follow instructions and due to that, they may experience weird bugs.

That's good news, and strange, because after I used Oden3 (in the way I previously described), all my apps and files were still in tact. Does it just affect the system and not the file memory?
P.S. Hey! I'm no longer a noob! lol I just noticed I am now a "Junior Member".

P.S.S. I'm now running my tablet off my wm hotspot while charging it on my pc! woohoo

Firecracker_RC said:
That's good news, and strange, because after I used Oden3 (in the way I previously described), all my apps and files were still in tact. Does it just affect the system and not the file memory?
P.S. Hey! I'm no longer a noob! lol I just noticed I am now a "Junior Member".
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That is because you didn't check F.Reset Time on the left side of ODIN before flashing. It is advisable to make sure it is checked. Thanks, I'm gonna put that little but important detail in my guide (dunno how I missed that one ). I advise using Titanium Backup (for apps backup) and then ODIN. You might be fine as you are, but if you ever experience something weird then you know.
Firecracker_RC said:
P.S.S. I'm now running my tablet off my wm hotspot while charging it on my pc! woohoo
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I'm glad you made it!

Thanks for your support. If I ever have some extra change and feel like making a donation, I'll keep you in mind! Hey, where's your donation link anyway? Better get one!

nirogu325 said:
That is because you didn't check F.Reset Time on the left side of ODIN before flashing. It is advisable to make sure it is checked. Thanks, I'm gonna put that little but important detail in my guide (dunno how I missed that one ). I advise using Titanium Backup (for apps backup) and then ODIN. You might be fine as you are, but if you ever experience something weird then you know.
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My tablet is definitely a little laggy now, but that could be the 3.2 HC. Since I did not check that off, does it mean that it did not install on a clean wipe? I'm wondering if I should just do it while I remember the path to how I got where I'm at now. I doubt I'll remember everything down the road.
I have been making nandroid backups as well as titanium app backups.

Firecracker_RC said:
My tablet is definitely a little laggy now, but that could be the 3.2 HC. Since I did not check that off, does it mean that it did not install on a clean wipe? I'm wondering if I should just do it while I remember the path to how I got where I'm at now. I doubt I'll remember everything down the road.
I have been making nandroid backups as well as titanium app backups.
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As for donations, nah it's ok, I am no developer. As for the suggestion, it was just that, a suggestion for next time. Keep that in mind. It will become a habit down the road.
Sent from my GT-P7310

nirogu325,
I'm back to do my clean wipe. I performed the wipe/data reset in nandroid and now it's saying there is an update from KJ5 to LA3. Do you still think the custom kj5 is better than the stock LA3? I'm wondering if I should just install the update, root, install the motley kernel and go from there...?
Hope you're well! I still think you should add a donate link...you don't have to be a developer, your assistance/guidance is equally helpful to the community.

While I'm waiting, I flashed http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375112 and then I noticed I have the old CMR so I downloaded your updated package: GTab89Files and I cannot paste a single file from that folder onto my tab. I can paste files from other folders, but this one I copy and when I go to paste the paste option is not enabled; if I drag I get a little red circle with a line through it. Any ideas as to why it's rejecting?

Why ODIN? WHY?!

It's driving me nuts, and I would like someone to help me understand. I came here with a bricked and completely unrepairable phone, and I have since managed to get a new Note. The completely stubborn side of me went right away flashing ICS ROMS...Okay, that's all good and well...No harm done anyway. But why don't developers include the "base" and root kernel files in their frickin' ROMS?! It's incredibly annoying. Why do I have to go into "ODIN" and download mode to flash some repack, wipe wipe wipe, reboot, flash another base, wipe wipe wipe, reboot, and finally flash a "custom" ROM. I should be able to flash a single .zip file through CWM and be down with it. I'm not bad talking at all, and I greatly appreciate what developers do around here.
For example, MIDNOTE includes ICS kernel and base...one integrated file. EVERYTHING works, and I have full root access. I'm wondering what it will be like when Samsung comes out with an official ICS version, will I have to flash ten different files to use a custom ROM or will developers be able to integrate it into their work? Just a question...not meant to cause trouble in the least...it just erks me the wrong way. And I'm sure others are wondering the same too.

They does it because you dont need to get those annoying yellow triangle and increase those custom binary counters....Would you like having triangles and increase counters?And the ICS roms are too early releases and are still in beta stages.So you need to go with the process.GB roms dont have these problems and are less hectic.Thats why I still stay in GB.Custom ICS roms will be ok when Official ICS is released.

@smalmagal
you are aboulutely right...
its a shame that they dont make it even easier to flash...
i mean please, the only thing that they are doing is:
- Prepare a Rom from scratch
- Provide updates
- Try to fix bugs
- And that in their free time for free
why not make a rom that i click on and its installed on my device...
like windows popups...
Click on Link and choose:
a- Save
b- Open
c- Flash to my Phone, make all the settings and text my GF that i love her...
Pleaseeee mate...
Not everyone is a dev here but at least we should be able to flash a rom...
Cooking takes days and week, flashing in WORST case 1 hour...

Bulut.O said:
@smalmagal
why not make a rom that i click on and its installed on my device...
like windows popups...
Click on Link and choose:
a- Save
b- Open
c- Flash to my Phone, make all the settings and text my GF that i love her...
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Made my day!!! LOL !! could you please add
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ha ha ha ha ha ha hah!!

Bulut.O said:
@smalmagal
you are aboulutely right...
its a shame that they dont make it even easier to flash...
i mean please, the only thing that they are doing is:
- Prepare a Rom from scratch
- Provide updates
- Try to fix bugs
- And that in their free time for free
why not make a rom that i click on and its installed on my device...
like windows popups...
Click on Link and choose:
a- Save
b- Open
c- Flash to my Phone, make all the settings and text my GF that i love her...
Pleaseeee mate...
Not everyone is a dev here but at least we should be able to flash a rom...
Cooking takes days and week, flashing in WORST case 1 hour...
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Are you serious???????Do you think rom flashing is like installing your favorite app???As I said when Stock ICS is released everything would become easy

Bulut.O said:
@smalmagal
you are aboulutely right...
its a shame that they dont make it even easier to flash...
i mean please, the only thing that they are doing is:
- Prepare a Rom from scratch
- Provide updates
- Try to fix bugs
- And that in their free time for free
why not make a rom that i click on and its installed on my device...
like windows popups...
Click on Link and choose:
a- Save
b- Open
c- Flash to my Phone, make all the settings and text my GF that i love her...
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vijai2011 said:
Are you serious???????Do you think rom flashing is like installing your favorite app???As I said when Stock ICS is released everything would become easy
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@vijai2011 you completely missed the point!! Didn't you??
The things said by @Bulut.O is called SARCASM
Read again!! And this time carefully!!
Peace

I'm serious guys! This is the only device I've ever owned where I have to flash a million different files just to get my phone booting...so I'm just trying to understand what's up. And obviously I LOVE the Note or else I wouldn't have bought two.
Developers do this for free...okay, yeah...but they don't have to do it half-assed? If I was going to sell you a car, I'd probably give it to you one piece. I wouldn't make you take all the parts and put them together yourself only in the end to find out that you're missing the engine and have to start all over again. And honestly, that's how I feel around here sometimes.
And the comment about Windows is out of line. I don't use Windows...why does everyone assume Windows? Honestly don't know why more don't use Linux around here. Windows just plan ol' sucks.
Edit: Custom ROMS aren't build from "scratch" by the way...and not everyone around here who posts a ROM is a "developer."

This issue is not because of lazy developers. It is because Samsung is tired of replacing devices under warranty when the terms of said warranty have been broken, and as a result putting extra security measures in place.
Lazy developers would let you get the yellow triangle, and then let you foot the bill for your mistakes while flashing.

beestee said:
This issue is not because of lazy developers. It is because Samsung is tired of replacing devices under warranty when the terms of said warranty have been broken, and as a result putting extra security measures in place.
Lazy developers would let you get the yellow triangle, and then let you foot the bill for your mistakes while flashing.
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Huh? I'm talking about doing everything from CWM...not from ODIN. So no yellow triangle...and as far as I know, every custom ROM around here is a CWM flashable .zip file...minus the oh so coveted ICS repack...which needs ODIN for some unknown reason to me. So now, I'm not calling myself lazy, or the developers around here for that matter. There's a good reason, I know it...I want to find out. Samsung is a different beast for sure, and this is the first Samsung device I've owned, and I'm trying to avoid bricking again, so I'd like to learn all the procedures and such...and why they're necessary. It's for my piece of mind really.

smalmagal said:
Huh? I'm talking about doing everything from CWM...not from ODIN. So no yellow triangle...and as far as I know, every custom ROM around here is a CWM flashable .zip file...minus the oh so coveted ICS repack...which needs ODIN for some unknown reason to me. So now, I'm not calling myself lazy, or the developers around here for that matter. There's a good reason, I know it...I want to find out. Samsung is a different beast for sure, and this is the first Samsung device I've owned, and I'm trying to avoid bricking again, so I'd like to learn all the procedures and such...and why they're necessary. It's for my piece of mind really.
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You just answered your own question. The process is long and somewhat complicated because it HAS to be done via recovery. If it were done via download mode in ODIN, it would be much simpler; but it would trip the counter. Using recovery instead of download mode sidesteps this problem, but it introduces others. That is why flashing to/from ICS/GB via recovery is so complicated.
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I appreciate you bleeding edge types, but this is why I wait a few weeks AFTER an official rom is released, before I even consider a custom rom.
ICS is still an infant...I'd rather have one that was at least able to drive a car before I install it.

geo.samuel said:
@vijai2011 you completely missed the point!! Didn't you??
The things said by @Bulut.O is called SARCASM
Read again!! And this time carefully!!
Peace
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Lol....Ok.understood it now.Now generally as said in above post,lazy developers would let you get triangles and increase custom binaries.So they need to make multiple files which makes your phone ready for flashing your favorite firmware.If you probably own a galaxy s series you would know how easy it was to flash firmwares.Thats because sammy did not implement any security measures which Gnote has.Hope you understand

smalmagal said:
every custom ROM around here is a CWM flashable .zip file...minus the oh so coveted ICS repack...which needs ODIN for some unknown reason to me.
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It's because of the kernel and root. Unlike GB kernels, this one seems to be a bit wonky, and your root permissions get lost easily in CWMR flashing or Nand restoring. Hence the convoluted flashing procedures. Lack of code sources, I suppose.
All of us have to accept this if we want a taste of Roms based on the Chinese leak. No-one is happy with the current state of the affairs, but we manage.
Nobody is forcing you to deal with it. If you can't, stick with GB Roms until the final version of ICS drops.

I have flashed several ICS Roms and only flashed the chainfire repack the very first time when I moved to ICS from gingerbread. I have flashed Criskelo, rocket and midnote just from CWM. Never had a triangle, SOD etc...just full wipe before I flashed and then cleared caches after.