Lets neutralize the verizon 3G hotspot app! - Motorola Droid 3

Now that we have root and are happily removing bloatware, many of us are trying to find and remove that blasted 3G hotspot app that keeps coming up with whatever we choose to use!
If anyone knows how and where to find and at least freeze it, we would all be very appreciative :-D

It has something to do with the dhcpd service. I'm looking at the code to see if there's an "easy" way around it.

why don't you just follow the rules and hack the hotspot app?

LRiley said:
why don't you just follow the rules and hack the hotspot app?
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You have to be careful with that app in terms of hacking it. Rumors say that Verizon knows when you are a hacked version and you could be charged, or violate certain parts of a contract.

why don't you just follow the rules and hack the hotspot app?
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Its more cumbersome than root tasks to me

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You have to be careful with that app in terms of hacking it. Rumors say that Verizon knows when you are a hacked version and you could be charged, or violate certain parts of a contract.
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I doubt that they can tell when you've hacked it without some sort of trickery that we're unaware of, but it is true that you violate part of your contract and get charged extra if they find out.

Pokelover980 said:
I doubt that they can tell when you've hacked it without some sort of trickery that we're unaware of, but it is true that you violate part of your contract and get charged extra if they find out.
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Isn't that the point of trickery? If it was trickery we were aware of, it wouldn't be trickery anymore

Maverick0984 said:
Isn't that the point of trickery? If it was trickery we were aware of, it wouldn't be trickery anymore
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I meant trickery as in some sort of magical method that can't be explained. We can be aware of it's presence, but not aware of how it works. We're not aware of either at the moment

If we hacked it but aren't using it, can verizon find out?
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I think it would be extremely difficult for then because it replaces codes so that your connected device doesn't come up as an external device but as the phone still using its data...

Is that a yes or no to my question? Lol
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jediman said:
Now that we have root and are happily removing bloatware, many of us are trying to find and remove that blasted 3G hotspot app that keeps coming up with whatever we choose to use!
If anyone knows how and where to find and at least freeze it, we would all be very appreciative :-D
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How exactly do we remove bloatware once we have achieved root? I've got root already, worked like a charm! but how do I remove this crapware?

virus5877 said:
How exactly do we remove bloatware once we have achieved root? I've got root already, worked like a charm! but how do I remove this crapware?
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Titanium Backup... buy it, FREEZE apps, do not rename, do not remove, do not uninstall... and watch what you do, several of them will cause never-ending force-closes if you're not careful.
Freezing apps removes the execute bit so the file remains, but the OS can't execute it.

^I say no
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Titanium Backup... buy it, FREEZE apps, do not rename, do not remove, do not uninstall... and watch what you do, several of them will cause never-ending force-closes if you're not careful.
Freezing apps removes the execute bit so the file remains, but the OS can't execute it.
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I uninstalled apps and haven't had any problems...

LRiley said:
^I say no
I uninstalled apps and haven't had any problems...
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Yah -- some are okay to uninstall, like the obvious ones (BlockBuster, Citrix, etc.) but some will break dialer/contacts, etc. like all the authenticators.

Yeah I broke my contacts, text messaging, and calendar. But that's okay. Because I never use them, and I use handcent for texting anyways
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It's just safer to get rid of the Verizon Hotspot app. I fear that no matter what we try to do to it they can find out. Even without the app they can find out. If you have an exceptionally large amount of data usage, or a constant high data usage connection they will investigate it. They then will monitor your data usage and start to throttle you, ping you and otherwise annoy you. Verizon just disables your ability to use your data. AT&T warns you twice and then charges you.
Just keep it under 15gbs a month. I went to 18 and they throttled me.

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It's just safer to get rid of the Verizon Hotspot app. I fear that no matter what we try to do to it they can find out. Even without the app they can find out. If you have an exceptionally large amount of data usage, or a constant high data usage connection they will investigate it. They then will monitor your data usage and start to throttle you, ping you and otherwise annoy you. Verizon just disables your ability to use your data. AT&T warns you twice and then charges you.
Just keep it under 15gbs a month. I went to 18 and they throttled me.
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this is a problem for you because u used 18gb of memory, which I don't understand how u do but for moderate usage its good...

royolpunk said:
Yeah I broke my contacts, text messaging, and calendar. But that's okay. Because I never use them, and I use handcent for texting anyways
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That was quick lol
/droid3

beard0 said:
That was quick lol
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Lol. Dunno what happened
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Has anyone figured out the reboot problems?

I thought that by rooting and putting a new ROM on my phone that it'd help out my problems of it rebooting randomly and having a non responsive internet 50% of the time but it hasn't. Anyone else having these problems with their Thrills? About to go back to the iPhone even though i really don't want to
I have occasional reboots, but not often. I know mine is more tinkering with my kernel.
i only had mine reboot once only cuz i killed gta3 the rong way and it crashed
yeah mine does it any time that it has to think about something... i go to post something on facebook and about half the time it freezes and then reboots. I think i've pulled the battery out a couple dozen times this last week because of it just stopping on me
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i only had mine reboot once only cuz i killed gta3 the rong way and it crashed
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There's a wrong way close apps/games? Not on the iPhone. Get with the times Google.
TylDurden said:
There's a wrong way close apps/games? Not on the iPhone. Get with the times Google.
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There is no wrong way to close an App/Game.
It's the developer of the app that causes the problem.
ok now i'm finally getting it to where it's saying different apps (mostly clockworkmod) are failing and to either force close or cancel...
Well I jumped out of gta3 with the home button and tryed to go in app manager to close it and probly ran out of ram and crashed instead of backing out of gta3 with the game menu
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There is no wrong way to close an App/Game.
It's the developer of the app that causes the problem.
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I just wish Android OS suspended everything when you push the home button and had push notifications instead of persistent checking. All this background running is killing our batteries and causing lockups.
Ya I know I wounding if you could put it in a rom or kernal
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True multitasking has been built into Android (similar to Linux, which it is based) from day one. Here to say it, but that would be a longshot. Best bet would be to become more scrupulous on what apps you download and more critical of the makers when their programs go rogue. Plus turning background data off in settings can help. Fyi.
Note: I don't want you to feel as if I'm being overly critical or a douche here, just realistic with what we have and what we are dealing with.
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True multitasking has been built into Android (similar to Linux, which it is based) from day one. Here to say it, but that would be a longshot. Best bet would be to become more scrupulous on what apps you download and more critical of the makers when their programs go rogue. Plus turning background data off in settings can help. Fyi.
Note: I don't want you to feel as if I'm being overly critical or a douche here, just realistic with what we have and what we are dealing with.
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how do you turn off background data and what does it do? Also can i dump clockworkmod recovery since it's one of the ones that keeps popping up saying it's froze? i've got the Doomed ROM on it now
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True multitasking has been built into Android (similar to Linux, which it is based) from day one. Here to say it, but that would be a longshot. Best bet would be to become more scrupulous on what apps you download and more critical of the makers when their programs go rogue. Plus turning background data off in settings can help. Fyi.
Note: I don't want you to feel as if I'm being overly critical or a douche here, just realistic with what we have and what we are dealing with.
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I hear ya, I know its wishful thinking. I just wish android was as efficient as iOS. Android having Backgrounding from the start was a big perk, but I gotta hand to apple for seeing how inefficient it was and hold off until they found a better solution. Android needs to grab the bull by the horns and convert to that solution.
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how do you turn off background data and what does it do? Also can i dump clockworkmod recovery since it's one of the ones that keeps popping up saying it's froze? i've got the Doomed ROM on it now
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Menu>accounts and sync>Background Data
Background data allows you to receive emails and your apps to update periodically while your not using your phone. This is the basis of 99% of your notifications. It's kinda the point of having a smart phone in the first place.
oh ok... yeah i really like getting all my updates so i don't wanna do that
Well I've got an issue where the phone shuts off while not in use and I have to pull the battery to restart. Are there any suggestions on how to fix this problem? Its random so I have no clue what's causing it.
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Well I've got an issue where the phone shuts off while not in use and I have to pull the battery to restart. Are there any suggestions on how to fix this problem? Its random so I have no clue what's causing it.
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pretty much the same thing i'm trying to figure out...
Just had to pull my battery to restart after sitting for a while
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I wonder what the deal is, I got a refurb and that may be the cause of it. How about you guys?
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o0shaft0o said:
I wonder what the deal is, I got a refurb and that may be the cause of it. How about you guys?
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mines brand new... started happening more when i rooted and put the ROM on it but it was doing it straight from AT&T too...
Same here. Any advice?
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HORRIBLE experience setting up my Nexus 5 out of the box

I'm pretty experienced with setting up Android devices, mainly because I get a new one every month or so (it's a real problem). I had the Nexus 4 and recall allowing it to restore from a backup. When I did that on the Nexus 5, it started downloading random apps from other devices that I don't even use anymore. I don't know what backup it was pulling from, but it was messy.
The worst part was, it kind of froze in the middle and refused to keep downloading apps. I cleared the cache on the Play Store app and started again. It downloaded a few apps, then quit again. I tried clearing data on Google Play, downloads, and Framework and nothing would work. When I tried to download apps manually, it would just give me an error and say it couldn't download. It wouldn't even update my existing apps.
Finally, at the recommendation of someone in Google groups, I logged out of Hangouts, then tried to log back in. It wouldn't let me log back in, even after several restarts.
Ultimately, after trying pretty much everything, I had to do a factory wipe and start over from scratch. I went through something similar (though not as bad) restoring from a backup a few months back. The moral of the story is, I will probably never restore from backup again.
After about an hour of setting up my accounts and downloading my apps manually, it's finally up and running. What a ride.
Cool story, bro.
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I'll be restoring from my TB backup.
danjbry said:
Cool story, bro.
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Thanks for your valuable input, bro. Consider yourself reported.
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marinierb said:
I'll be restoring from my TB backup.
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Yeah, I was rooted, too. I don't understand Google's backup system. It doesn't work anywhere near as well as iCloud. They really need to work on that.
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greyhulk said:
allowing it to restore from a backup. When I did that on the Nexus 5, it started downloading random apps from other devices that I don't even use anymore. I don't know what backup it was puling from, but it was messy.
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it started downloading apps i have backed up on my nexus 7, which i agree is quite annoying
while i know it's popular to complain about complainers, OP has a valid point imo. i agree that they need to get it cleaned up, or at least allow you to choice individual devices.
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I don't understand Google's backup system. It doesn't work anywhere near as well as iCloud. They really need to work on that.
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+1
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I'm pretty experienced with setting up Android devices, mainly because I get a new one every month or so (it's a real problem). I had the Nexus 4 and recall allowing it to restore from a backup. When I did that on the Nexus 5, it started downloading random apps from other devices that I don't even use anymore. I don't know what backup it was puling from, but it was messy.
The worst part was, it kind of froze in the middle and refused to keep downloading apps. I cleared the cache on the Play Store app and started again. It downloaded a few apps, then quit again. I tried clearing data on Google Play, downloads, and Framework and nothing would work. When I tried to download apps manually, it would just give me an error and say it couldn't download. It wouldn't even update my existing apps.
Finally, at the recommendation of someone in Google groups, I logged out of Hangouts, then tried to log back in. It wouldn't let me log back in, even after several restarts.
Ultimately, after trying pretty much everything, I had to do a factory wipe and start over from scratch. I went through something similar (though not as bad) restoring from a backup a few months back. The moral of the story is, I will probably never restore from backup again.
After about an hour of setting up my accounts and downloading my apps manually, it's finally up and running. What a ride.
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Pay a few dollars and get Titanium Backup Pro or Helium Premium. Google's backup and restore is horrendous; no one with any sense actually uses it. The paid versions of TiBu and Helium are well worth it. TiBu was my go-to for a long time, but I use Helium now. It has a much more user-friendly interface, and it doesn't require root.
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Thanks for your valuable input, bro. Consider yourself reported.
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Haha you are on the Nexus 5 forum posting about something that has pretty much nothing to do with the Nexus 5 and is 100% user error. What kind of responses do you expect, especially considering the 500 worthless threads people have posted today complaining about irrelevant things. You totally brought this on yourself, and reporting someone for pointing that out is a waste of your time. Look around this forum; the mods let anything fly here.
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Yeah, I was rooted, too. I don't understand Google's backup system. It doesn't work anywhere near as well as iCloud. They really need to work on that.
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I'm pretty sure that if you uninstall apps outside of the playstore, then upon a backup restore it will restore that app again. If you uninstall from the store, it won't restore it again. This is just my guess on things I think i've noticed.. I never actually tried to prove my theory right.
Basically there's no way for us to force it to sync a current setup. If you start flashing nandroids and roms will mess it up as well.
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Yeah, I was rooted, too. I don't understand Google's backup system. It doesn't work anywhere near as well as iCloud. They really need to work on that.
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In the Play Store it keeps track of every app you download, if you no longer want them backed up you have to delete them from "my apps."
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Pay a few dollars and get Titanium Backup Pro or Helium Premium. Google's backup and restore is horrendous; no one with any sense actually uses it. The paid versions of TiBu and Helium are well worth it. TiBu was my go-to for a long time, but I use Helium now. It has a much more user-friendly interface, and it doesn't require root.
Haha you are on the Nexus 5 forum posting about something that has pretty much nothing to do with the Nexus 5 and is 100% user error. What kind of responses do you expect, especially considering the 500 worthless threads people have posted today complaining about irrelevant things. You totally brought this on yourself, and reporting someone for pointing that out is a waste of your time. Look around this forum; the mods let anything fly here.
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How, pray tell, was a Google backup failing to restore "user error"?
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I have no science behind this statement but I've always thought that restoring TB backups to different devices was extremely risky.
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Haha you are on the Nexus 5 forum posting about something that has pretty much nothing to do with the Nexus 5 and is 100% user error. What kind of responses do you expect, especially considering the 500 worthless threads people have posted today complaining about irrelevant things. You totally brought this on yourself, and reporting someone for pointing that out is a waste of your time. Look around this forum; the mods let anything fly here.
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are you kidding me? nexus 5 may not have much to do with it, but this is a very legitimate bug in the current backup/restore system google has in place. i'm sure in time further revisions with work things out, but right now it sucks.
fwiw, i have everything backed up in titanium, but i'm not rooted and i don't wanna mess around with that right now. having the ability to easily move from android to android is something that has been sorely missing for some time for the average user.
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mjs2011 said:
I have no science behind this statement but I've always thought that restoring TB backups to different devices was extremely risky.
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it can be, you're often not supposed to restore app data but...
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How, pray tell, was a Google backup failing to restore "user error"?
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Because Google backup doesn't work. You said yourself you've had problems with it before. For someone "experienced in setting up Android phones," I am surprised you haven't been using TiBu/Helium all along. Trust me, it's well worth spending the few dollars if you switch phones or ROMs more than once a year. Relying on Google backup to restore anything more than your contacts is user error.
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Because Google backup doesn't work. You said yourself you've had problems with it before. For someone "experienced in setting up Android phones," I am surprised you haven't been using TiBu/Helium all along. Trust me, it's well worth spending the few dollars if you switch phones or ROMs more than once a year. Relying on Google backup to restore anything more than your contacts is user error.
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system error brah
Paddington said:
Haha you are on the Nexus 5 forum posting about something that has pretty much nothing to do with the Nexus 5 and is 100% user error. What kind of responses do you expect, especially considering the 500 worthless threads people have posted today complaining about irrelevant things. You totally brought this on yourself, and reporting someone for pointing that out is a waste of your time. Look around this forum; the mods let anything fly here.
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It is not that we let anything fly here, it is just that with around 90 device forums to monitor we are spread around.
Feel free to use the report button when you see something that should not "FLY"
the information has been given,
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[Q] Can I root my Note 3 AT&T?

The model number is N900A. I did get my phone through AT&T. I've heard that there are some serious problems rooting and installed roms etc through AT&T and Verizon. The Note 3 is my first Android device and I would have to say I'm in love with this phone. What I'm not in love with are all these apps and other nonsense running in my background. I hear rooting and installing different roms can solve this. I have used Clean Master from the app store to clear cache and free up RAM, but moments later these same apps open right back up. The Note 3 has 2.4GB of RAM available, correct? I haven't put much on this phone in the way of apps. I did put some music and bought one app to change the icons on my phone. When I check Clean Master, I'm always using between 1.6-1.8GB of RAM. Thinking to myself, "what is the purpose of Clean Master if all of these annoying apps just open themselves back up?"
Other thoughts would be:
How much RAM will I free up by rooting(assuming of course it's possible)and installing a fairly simple ROM to change the overall look and feel? I'm looking for simplicity. Just want something that works, doesn't eat a lot of my RAM, and isn't known for a lot of bugs/issues.
I'm hoping some of this information helps someone help me. I'm currently running 4.3. I've also researched some of the positives and negatives of rooting and installing roms. It seems worth it if I can free up some RAM and get rid of all these apps and such running in the background.
I have a Att&t and I'm rooted.....No problems 4 days or more battery life and love it!
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I have a Att&t and I'm rooted.....No problems 4 days or more battery life and love it!
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That's great, glad to hear it. Care to point me in the direction of the method you used to do so? Would prefer a simple step by step tutorial/video. Also, are you able to run any roms/mods?
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That's great, glad to hear it. Care to point me in the direction of the method you used to do so? Would prefer a simple step by step tutorial/video. Also, are you able to run any roms/mods?
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if you just want to keep apps from loading you can go under setting general application manager and select the app you want click it and pick turn off
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if you still want to root look in the general section on here for kingo to do custom roms go to development section and look for bootstrap make sure you read and know what you are doing before doing it you can mess up your phone
for beenolem
jerrycoffman45 said:
if you just want to keep apps from loading you can go under setting general application manager and select the app you want click it and pick turn off
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It would be nice to remove them completely. There is so much pre-installed software on this phone that I can't be certain what should or shouldn't be turned off.
Just want the basics. Facebook, text, Gmail, phone calls, and the play store to work and I'm good.
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It would be nice to remove them completely. There is so much pre-installed software on this phone that I can't be certain what should or shouldn't be turned off.
Just want the basics. Facebook, text, Gmail, phone calls, and the play store to work and I'm good.
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turning them off makes the phone think they are removed the good thing about it is it will not allow you to turn off anything critical all the att stuff can be turned off and i edited my post above
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turning them off makes the phone think they are removed the good thing about it is it will not allow you to turn off anything critical all the att stuff can be turned off and i edited my post above
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Thanks again
The Kingo Root seems very simple. Think I'll do that and then maybe look into some roms.
jerrycoffman45 said:
if you just want to keep apps from loading you can go under setting general application manager and select the app you want click it and pick turn off
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if you still want to root look in the general section on here for kingo to do custom roms go to development section and look for bootstrap make sure you read and know what you are doing before doing it you can mess up your phone
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You mentioned bootstrap. I don't see bootstrap when doing a search. I only see Safestrap.
Safestrap is the method used to install custom roms...bootstrap was prolly an auto correct typo. Just follow the Safestrap method 100% and you should be good. When you pick a rom make sure you read the 1st post throughly and entirely. ..Most roms come with all the att/samsung bloat ...you will prolly still have to weed through and disable them. Good luck and have fun
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Safestrap is the method used to install custom roms...bootstrap was prolly an auto correct typo. Just follow the Safestrap method 100% and you should be good. When you pick a rom make sure you read the 1st post throughly and entirely. ..Most roms come with all the att/samsung bloat ...you will prolly still have to weed through and disable them. Good luck and have fun
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Thanks for that. Do you know if CynogenMod 11 is supported on the Note 3/AT&T?
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You mentioned bootstrap. I don't see bootstrap when doing a search. I only see Safestrap.
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thats it auto correct got me
IcyRhythms said:
Thanks for that. Do you know if CynogenMod 11 is supported on the Note 3/AT&T?
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You have not read about safestrap yet have you? You can't really flash anything to this phone but safestrap gives you sort of a work around at the cost of internal or external SD card space. As for CM11, that is a big no. Only slightly modified stock like ROMS work right now and as I said they are not truly flashed to the device. Safestrap lets you set your phone up sort of like a dual or multi boot PC. At boot up you pic which of up to four ROMS you want it to use.
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You have not read about safestrap yet have you? You can't really flash anything to this phone but safestrap gives you sort of a work around at the cost of internal or external SD card space. As for CM11, that is a big no. Only slightly modified stock like ROMS work right now and as I said they are not truly flashed to the device. Safestrap lets you set your phone up sort of like a dual or multi boot PC. At boot up you pic which of up to four ROMS you want it to use.
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Any word on if/when that will be a possibility?
Also, meant to ask earlier(it's also a little too late since I've already done it)does using Kingo Root disable Samsung/AT&T updates like KitKat?(still blows me away that KitKat has yet to release for this phone on AT&T)
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The Note 3 has 2.4GB of RAM available, correct? I haven't put much on this phone in the way of apps.
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Nothing to do with RAM. RAM is where apps run. When you install an app it gets installed to storage (think of storage like the hard drive on a desktop computer).
When I check Clean Master, I'm always using between 1.6-1.8GB of RAM. Thinking to myself, "what is the purpose of Clean Master if all of these annoying apps just open themselves back up?"
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In Windows, the more free RAM you have, the better. In Android, any unused RAM is wasted RAM. As soon as you free up some RAM, Android's memory manager is going to load something in the newly freed space. RAM cleaning programs are a waste of battery, a waste of time (both yours and the computer's) and a waste of storage (the space they're stored in). Android has a great memory manager - let it do its thing.
How much RAM will I free up by rooting
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None. You'll be using storage to store su, busybox and SuperSU. Rooting has nothing to do with RAM.
installing a fairly simple ROM to change the overall look and feel?
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Install Nova Launcher. It's an app, not a ROM, so there's no warranty issue, no bricking issue and it's a welcome change from the monkey-designed TouchWiz. (The old joke that if you sat a million monkeys at a million typewriters for a million years, eventually they'd have written all of Shakespeare's works? They'd also have written TouchWiz.)
Just want something that works, doesn't eat a lot of my RAM
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The amount of RAM an app uses is determined by the app, not by the ROM or the launcher (which is the "look" of the phone when you turn it on).
and isn't known for a lot of bugs/issues.
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The stock ROM works, doesn't use that much storage (I collect apps like junkyard dogs collect fleas, and I have just a hair under 29GB of free internal storage - and a lot of junk apps I have to uninstall, because I just downloaded to help people. And as far as bugs go ... I haven't seen any in general (I had to return 2 Note 3s and one of the ones I have now, which is a refurb, may also have to go back - but that's all hardware issues). If you want looks you change launchers and lock screens. (And there's a lot you can do with the settings to make things look different.)
There's really only one reason to root - because you need (or really want) to run an app that needs root permissions.
There's really only one reason to run a different ROM - because it has features that you want that the stock ROM doesn't.
All the rest is experimentation, fun and watching geniuses (and there are a lot of them on xda) at work. But remember, rooting alone voids the warranty. ROMming not only voids the warranty, it can mess up your phone. Is it $700 worth of fun? That's for you to decide. Rooting (as long as you don't use root status to mess anything up) is safe. ROMming, not so much. Still fixable - in most cases - but the first time you're stuck in a boot loop, you'll panic longer than it takes to reflash the phone.
some of the positives and negatives of rooting and installing roms. It seems worth it if I can free up some RAM
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If you run Kit Kat you'll free up some RAM, but the official update will be out soon anyway
and get rid of all these apps and such running in the background.
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Turn them off.
People are taking molehills and making Olympus Mons out of them. There are so many much simpler solutions to so many of the "problems" people want to "solve" by rooting or changing ROMs.
Oh, I forgot one other very important reason to root, and as a child of the 60s it should have been the first one to occur to me - sticking it to the man.
Thanks for all the help to those that responded. The last reply in particular would have been very helpful had a I not jumped the gun yesterday. I rooted my phone yesterday. DIDN'T try anything else like new themes/roms. Just rooted the phone. After about an hour the phone having issues. Freezing. Apps not opening. Then, I unrooted. Haven't had a freeze since, but the phone is still doing odd things it wasn't doing before. Apps appear to be taking longer open etc...I went to send a text message about an hour ago and when I clicked on the text to begin typing the big envelope icon covered the entire screen looking very pixelated. ugh....

[Q] AT&T Tech support just offered to remote access my device,

Did anyone else know about this option? How do we disable such a thing? Seems pretty invasive.
galaxy s4 nutjob said:
Did anyone else know about this option? How do we disable such a thing? Seems pretty invasive.
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I had it done on my M8. They have to send you a link to the app, and you have to install it, they can't just do it without your permission.
The app will also block any access to keyboard (when they used it, I had to type everything and it specifically states that all access to the screen is currently blocked when typing anything), it basically just lets them use the device a bit, and check some settings to make sure everything is proper.
Just uninstall the app after, and done.
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I had it done on my M8. They have to send you a link to the app, and you have to install it, they can't just do it without your permission.
The app will also block any access to keyboard (when they used it, I had to type everything and it specifically states that all access to the screen is currently blocked when typing anything), it basically just lets them use the device a bit, and check some settings to make sure everything is proper.
Just uninstall the app after, and done.
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Cool thanks for the info was pretty shocked to hear That
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Cool thanks for the info was pretty shocked to hear That
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Yup. That'd be a massive privacy breach that would open them to quite a few lawsuits if they had it setup that they could access your device and personal data at ANYTIME.
She offered to move my pics and files for a warranty. Swap
galaxy s4 nutjob said:
She offered to move my pics and files for a warranty. Swap
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Did she offer to do it to the new device, or to the external SD?
If it was new device, I don't see how they would do that unless they were going to use ATT Locker (which I hate). If to external, then it's just a setting in the phone that'll move everything to the external.
Still, she would have to ask for your permission, which she did. I wouldn't worry about it, they can't get that data anyway.
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Did she offer to do it to the new device, or to the external SD?
If it was new device, I don't see how they would do that unless they were going to use ATT Locker (which I hate). If to external, then it's just a setting in the phone that'll move everything to the external.
Still, she would have to ask for your permission, which she did. I wouldn't worry about it, they can't get that data anyway.
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Ok that's that ?
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Ok that's that ?
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Yup. :]
It is convinent though, when they need to help someone who knows nothing about phones, that's for sure.
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Yup. :]
It is convinent though, when they need to help someone who knows nothing about phones, that's for sure.
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Ya I could see my mom using it
galaxy s4 nutjob said:
Did anyone else know about this option? How do we disable such a thing? Seems pretty invasive.
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I called att once when I had my s4. However I had that phone so locked down even they couldn't get a connection established. When they would try to connect they would get a rejection message and my phone would force close the app. They use this to trouble shoot our phones when we call support. They ask you to accept a text link which grants them control of your phone. What you see they see. I do not like this because they can see notifications like text messages in the status bar. You will also be asked to install an apk. I don't like this idea because I have private information on my phone. But someone who is not very literate with phones may need this type of support to fix their phone malfunctions.
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They can also tell if the phone is rooted or not.
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Package disabler Samsung ??

Is there a list yet of the things safe to disable? I stopped obvious things.
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Can you share how you disable? Tks much
Tiongkia said:
Can you share how you disable? Tks much
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He's talking about using the app Package Disabler Pro to disable system apps.
Yeah adhell3 it's under the themes and apps section
EVOme said:
Is there a list yet of the things safe to disable? I stopped obvious things.
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does package disabler work at all? i have to rebuy it, guess the original one was taken down. trying to see if it works before i spend another $4
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does package disabler work at all? i have to rebuy it, guess the original one was taken down. trying to see if it works before i spend another $4
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It did for the few things I disabled.
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It did for the few things I disabled.
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perfect, thank you. i just wanted to disable the keyboard and internet browser
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elmklmsamsung.batteryaddon&hl=de_CH
I just stop dtignite, carrier stuff and Bixby related stuff.
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The dev claims samsung takes it down but it seems like the dev does this every samsung launch. I've purchased this app 4 times already. I froze all att, smart switch, smart things, and any games etc
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The dev claims samsung takes it down but it seems like the dev does this every samsung launch. I've purchased this app 4 times already. I froze all att, smart switch, smart things, and any games etc
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I'm not giving that leach any more of my money. He thinks people will buy it over and over and Google let's him get by with it.
The reality is that every phone is slightly different. The package disabler works extremely well to remove bloat and freeze everything that you don't want to deal with but preserve Knox and other security things. It's well worth the money in my opinion. Most people pay more money then that app just to drink a cup of coffee once.
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The reality is that every phone is slightly different. The package disabler works extremely well to remove bloat and freeze everything that you don't want to deal with but preserve Knox and other security things. It's well worth the money in my opinion. Most people pay more money then that app just to drink a cup of coffee once.
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It's the principle and I don't pay for the same cup of coffee over and over. Besides the app wouldn't trip Knox if you disabled every app on the phone. It may brick but not trip Knox. There are minimal changes to the app, and occasionally none at all. Taking an app down and then bringing it back, making it a new buy, is unethitical and unnecessary.
Anyone with a list yet? I'll try to post mine
Just download ADB bootloader and delete the apps. I got package disabler to tell me the names of the apps and deleted them ALL one by one i have 0 bloatware from At&T and delete a few from Samsung Also including that annoying GoT games.
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Just download ADB bootloader and delete the apps. I got package disabler to tell me the names of the apps and deleted them ALL one by one i have 0 bloatware from At&T and delete a few from Samsung Also including that annoying GoT games.
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Any YouTube tutorial on this? Thanks.
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Any YouTube tutorial on this? Thanks.
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This are the two links i followed.
https://beebom.com/how-to-install-adb-windows-mac/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/beebom.com/remove-bloatware-android-no-root/amp/
Worked perfect for me hope it helped.
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This are the two links i followed.
https://beebom.com/how-to-install-adb-windows-mac/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/beebom.com/remove-bloatware-android-no-root/amp/
Worked perfect for me hope it helped.
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Thanks ?
The re-buying leaves a sour taste but it is still preferable to the ADB method.
Shame the XML export thing does not work still!
Tel864 said:
It's the principle and I don't pay for the same cup of coffee over and over. Besides the app wouldn't trip Knox if you disabled every app on the phone. It may brick but not trip Knox. There are minimal changes to the app, and occasionally none at all. Taking an app down and then bringing it back, making it a new buy, is unethitical and unnecessary.
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So you bring your cup back to starbucks and they give you free refills?
Also he doesn't take the app down - Google does.

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