Hi everyone,
first sorry about my bad english
I just bought a n1 brand new and upgraded to 2.3.4 (dont need cooked roms) my question is about the sd card, i know i can move certain apps to the sd card, but the phone its running out of space to install apps, im thinking about to partition the sd card to ext3/fat32 (its 8gb btw)
If i do this, i would be able to move/install apps on the sd card?
I will only use the stock tool to move apps and going to partition with another phone which has clockworkmod installed, or if you know any better app for android or windows please tell me,
Thanks for your time and patience
Ps. Sorry for my bad english again
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You need to run a rom that support a2sd (s2e or dark tremor's a2sd script).
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Using Froyo's app2sd method (which is what you would be using on a stock ROM), it won't ever utilize the sd-ext partition. You need to have a ROM that supports sd-ext and then enable it in that ROM (if app2sdext is built-in) or add it into the ROM with something like DarkTremor's a2sd or S2E.
using the system built-in app2sd function doesn't require your re-formatting the sdcard at all. it's just in some .android_secure folder and mounted onto the system in some way.
phoeagon said:
using the system built-in app2sd function doesn't require your re-formatting the sdcard at all. it's just in some .android_secure folder and mounted onto the system in some way.
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The built in app2sd only move the app itself to the FAT32 portion of the sd card.
All data associate with the app still reside internally.
With S2E or DT's script it trick the phone into thinking the EXT section is part of the internal storage, hence all app with widgets and password work like normal.
Another plus is being able to move dalvik cache to sd-ext which free upa a huge amount of space.
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I am a noob and have recently discovered android and wanted to know that what is the difference between apps2sd and apps2ext????
mahroze said:
I am a noob and have recently discovered android and wanted to know that what is the difference between apps2sd and apps2ext????
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I think your talking about the difference between apps to ext or froyo's built in apps to fat?
if so:
apps to ext tricks the os into thinking that a special ext partition on your sd card is your data partition. this way all app data goes to the sd card and saves your data partition completely.
pros:
all apps are compatible
no data space used on the data partition
the phone thinks its saving apps internally
Apps are very accessible for backup
cons:
you have to format and partition your sd card (this really isent hard and can be done in recovery)
if the sd card is pulled, mounted to the computer, or dies, you cannot access your apps.
you have to specify an exact amount of space on the sd card dedicated to apps that can no longer be used as storage space(unless you use linux I suppose... but it would be pointless to save stuff there besides apps)
apps rely on the speed of the sd (this usually isn't a problem though)
not all roms support it. (there are usually work arounds though)
Froyo apps to sd puts the bulk of the app onto the regular partition of your sd card (no special formatting required) but still saves data to the data partition.
pros:
saves space on the data partition
no special formatting is needed
is more secure for app developers
because you dont need the extra partition, you'll have more free sd card space.
cons:
still uses some space internally which isn't bad unless you have a crazy amount of apps or some very large data hogs.
if the sd card is pulled, mounted to the computer, or dies, you cannot access your apps.
apps rely on the speed of the sd (this usually isn't a problem though)
only Froyo roms support it
the internal memory is the fastest best place for apps, but if you need more space then by all means try one of the above methods
they both get the job done in their own way.
firefly6240 said:
I think your talking about the difference between apps to ext or froyo's built in apps to fat?
if so:
apps to ext tricks the os into thinking that a special ext partition on your sd card is your data partition. this way all app data goes to the sd card and saves your data partition completely.
pros:
all apps are compatible
no data space used on the data partition
the phone thinks its saving apps internally
Apps are very accessible for backup
cons:
you have to format and partition your sd card (this really isent hard and can be done in recovery)
if the sd card is pulled, mounted to the computer, or dies, you cannot access your apps.
you have to specify an exact amount of space on the sd card dedicated to apps that can no longer be used as storage space(unless you use linux I suppose... but it would be pointless to save stuff there besides apps)
apps rely on the speed of the sd (this usually isn't a problem though)
not all roms support it. (there are usually work arounds though)
Froyo apps to sd puts the bulk of the app onto the regular partition of your sd card (no special formatting required) but still saves data to the data partition.
pros:
saves space on the data partition
no special formatting is needed
is more secure for app developers
because you dont need the extra partition, you'll have more free sd card space.
cons:
still uses some space internally which isn't bad unless you have a crazy amount of apps or some very large data hogs.
if the sd card is pulled, mounted to the computer, or dies, you cannot access your apps.
apps rely on the speed of the sd (this usually isn't a problem though)
only Froyo roms support it
the internal memory is the fastest best place for apps, but if you need more space then by all means try one of the above methods
they both get the job done in their own way.
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thanx for the info but how do i partition my sd card so that apps can be transfered
There is an option in recovery to partition sdcard. U will lose everything on it though so save what u want to the computer. Backup your apps with titanium backup or equivalent. And as always do a nandroid backup in recovery and save to your computer as well with titanium backup u made before u repartition. If u need ext 3 or for there are options for that in recovery too.
Edit: put backups back on SD after partitioning so u have your nandroid just in case and can restore apps in titanium
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There is an option in recovery to partition sdcard. U will lose everything on it though so save what u want to the computer. Backup your apps with titanium backup or equivalent. And as always do a nandroid backup in recovery and save to your computer as well with titanium backup u made before u repartition. If u need ext 3 or for there are options for that in recovery too.
Edit: put backups back on SD after partitioning so u have your nandroid just in case and can restore apps in titanium
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could guide me through a step by step process on how to partition the sdcard through recovery and then to transfer apps to the sdcard....thanx in advance
mahroze said:
could guide me through a step by step process on how to partition the sdcard through recovery and then to transfer apps to the sdcard....thanx in advance
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What recovery do u have?
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johnson8cyl said:
What recovery do u have?
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Build : RA-dream-v.1.5.2
U should get 1.7.0. Just my opinion. U should have an option to partition your SD. Once u start its self explanatory really. Just make sure u do everything I told u before about the backups and saving to your computer so u don't lose anything important as it will completely wipe your card clean. What Tom are u trying to flash afterwards?
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U should get 1.7.0. Just my opinion. U should have an option to partition your SD. Once u start its self explanatory really. Just make sure u do everything I told u before about the backups and saving to your computer so u don't lose anything important as it will completely wipe your card clean. What Tom are u trying to flash afterwards?
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maybe CM 6.1 or the Froyo for trout
U will have to check the first page of the rom and see if u need an ext 3 or 4 partition. Apps to SD should be automatic if u set it up the way they tell u as far as partitioning. Just do everything I told u and u should be good
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johnson8cyl said:
U will have to check the first page of the rom and see if u need an ext 3 or 4 partition. Apps to SD should be automatic if u set it up the way they tell u as far as partitioning. Just do everything I told u and u should be good
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hey man thanx for all the help but i have one problem though I have the firerats patch file but i cant seem to run it via adb but it says cannot open could you guide me through
What are u trying to do with the patch? U should have it on your sdcard and be running commands in the terminal not adb.
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johnson8cyl said:
What are u trying to do with the patch? U should have it on your sdcard and be running commands in the terminal not adb.
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thanx man i realized that i was entering the name of the patch file wrong
How to partition My SDHC 8GB card to EXT4?
for exemple with a partitionprogram like this http://www.partitionwizard.com
But you dont need to format whole card, just create another partition and format it....
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I've also done this and is now partition thanks to This Tutorial Here
My question though is: "How can i tell that the apps are being installed in the EXT? that I partition since I have an 8GB SDcard and i left the rest for the games and apps, can anyone tell that part?"
Thanks in advance for the help.
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First you need to root your phone and install from market link2sd....or install one custom roms and change in settings installation place,but for custom rom you dont need ext parition coz app can be installed directly to sd
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I followed the tutorial linked by istreva, and I also succeded in formatting and/or creating ext partition directly with the phone plugged via USB (mounted as a mass memory), without physically removing the SD from the phone and thus removing the cover (annoying for me).
Custom ROMs usually autodetect your ext partition and install your apps directly there, without changing any setting.
Moreover, I prefer to keep my apps in an ext partition rather than directly on the FAT, because I can plug in the phone as a mass memory without letting apps stop functioning
I finally decide to have a partion on my 8GB SD other than FAT32. So i used the FuFu Minimod to split my SD. First to Ext2 then to Ext3 and then to Ext4.
It all went fine. I have moved some basic apps like Facebook and Igo to the Ext4 partion.
The weird thing that drove me to create this thread is the fact that my phone became a bit slow... unresponsive... and just because the Ext4 with basic apps on it?
Did i miss something or this is normal?
Appreciate all feedbacks.
WF
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Try wipe both Cache and Dalvik-Cache
Thanks... but is not the case... and yes i already did that before creating the thead.
Tks
Well then, manually move the app to the sdcard, then move back to the phone.
It should move into the ext4 partition.
They are all in ext4...
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wisefreakz said:
They are all in ext4...
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I know it is inside ext4. Please try to move to the sdcard and back to the phone again.
I did face this b4
I have done that before you mention... and it looks like its a bit more stable.
One doubt... i notice that all sd-ext\app files are alson in data\app.
Why is that?
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Why
Is ext4 faster or what ?
Im kinda noob on this android and stuff things, so i donno.
I can put my apps on SDcard without formatting to ext2, 3 or 4.
Well, now after billions of testing, formating, reflashing... all looks pretty nice now.
@ivanotera: moving apps to sdcard is not the same as moving apps to a second partition where this second partition is journaled - case of ext4.
It means that when you boot your phone, this partition is ready to use and does not need to be "prepared" as the usual fat32 - thats why we see the message after boot up that sd card is being prepared (in fact the OS is checking if the partion is corrupted or not.
Also when moving apps directly to sd card like you are doing, is not good as phone becomes slow, widgets, shortcuts dissapear while booting phone and while phone is connected to pc via usb with sd mounted for access.
With ext4 (using ext4.ko module) OS will think that this second partition is part of the internal storage and all of the above mentioned will not be a problem anymore and you will not get that anoying message that you have not enough space just because you added a couple apps.
Hope this can clarify some important things.
Cya
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Yeah, got it.
But another question, is ext4 "viewable" by windows ?
Because i have a 32gb card, so i use it as a "pen drive", have some apps so when i format a pc, not at home, i have some apps already, and dont have to download it.
Or in the case of creating a ext4, i partition the sdcard, so i have the "apps" partition and the "windows" partition ?
any solution to increase internal memory for Samsung Ace 5830!!
android version 2.3.4
Baseband version S5830DDKQ6
Make 2nd partitions then use link2sd...
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pyronia said:
Make 2nd partitions then use link2sd...
regards,
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how to create a 2nd partition is there any apps for it for doing so ??
draneesh said:
how to create a 2nd partition is there any apps for it for doing so ??
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yea der is a software "minitool partition wizard"...
but u can do it by cwm recovery mod...
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draneesh said:
how to create a 2nd partition is there any apps for it for doing so ??
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Use pc...google minitool....easy to use app...
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draneesh said:
how to create a 2nd partition is there any apps for it for doing so ??
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I highly recommend using CMW for making the partition. I've had some problems making them through my PC. With CMW you just set the amount of size you want it and wait till its done.
Then install S2E.
yea its better to make it by cwm and its very easy....
but make sure you have the backup of you sdcard before partitioning...
Hey ! I just googled about partitioning sd card and found that CWM may brick your phone.. is it true ?
balaji.s26 said:
any solution to increase internal memory for Samsung Ace 5830!!
android version 2.3.4
Baseband version S5830DDKQ6
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If your phone is rooted, follow these steps -
1) Download root explorer or file manager app from market.
2) Open the app
3) Go to system/app
4) Delete the following files
swype.apk
thinkdroid.apk or thinkfree.apk if you dont use thinkfree office(something like that, i dont remember the exact name)
youtube.apk
fmradio.apk and fmradio.odex
voicesearch.apk
voicerecorder.apk and voicerecorder.odex
etc..
Delete these files only if you dont use all these apps. Don't blame me later on.
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If your phone is rooted, follow these steps -
1) Download root explorer or file manager app from market.
2) Open the app
3) Go to system/app
4) Delete the following files
swype.apk
thinkdroid.apk or thinkfree.apk if you dont use thinkfree office(something like that, i dont remember the exact name)
youtube.apk
fmradio.apk and fmradio.odex
voicesearch.apk
voicerecorder.apk and voicerecorder.odex
etc..
Delete these files only if you dont use all these apps. Don't blame me later on.
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But its not a permanent solution....
Prawesome said:
But its not a permanent solution....
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Yea, I know.. I just gave an easier solution.. If he wont use much apps den this can work as a permanent soln
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Apps disappearing from EXT4 partition
Hi everyone. Since I see that at least part of this thread seems to be talking about Link2SD, I wondered whether anyone might be able to offer some insight into the problem I am experiencing.
Before that however, let me explain that I started off with an 8GB micro SD card with a 500MB EXT4 partition. I had been fast running out of space in the internal phone memory, and my SD drive itself was also filling up fast. When I installed Link2SD I managed to regain a considerable amount of free space on the internal memory.
The problem is though that once I had linked the majority of my apps to the EXT4 partition and backed up the device in that condition with CWM, once I rebooted the system all the apps that were linked had disappeared. However there are still some 244MB of files on the EXT4 partition that Link2SD says are in use, and I cannot delete them.
I then purchased a 16GB micro SD card from Samsung, and tried to restore the CWM backup to that card....my apps were missing apart from the few that remained on the FAT32 partition and in the phone memory....I should mention that this also happened before I installed the CM7.1 ROM.
Now things have really become problematic. I decided to remove quite a few apps, then download the latest version of Link2SD from the apps Market. But although there is now plenty of space on all partitions I keep getting the 'insufficient storage available' message, and I cannot install anything. I also did a CWM restore on the original 8GB SD card with the same result. This is why I cannot lay the blame fully on Link2SD, as there has to be a glitch somewhere in my installation.
FreeSpace [Root] shows the following on the 8GB based system:
Cache free space 20.7MB
Data free 16.6MB
Ext free 265.0MB
SD-card free 959.1MB
System free 48.2MB
So what gives? I really don't understand what's going on. I am running the latest CM7.1-RC1 Cooper-Grif ROM build number GWK74, with Kernel version 2.6.35.7-CL-562111 [email protected]#1 with all updates necessary. This is costing me more time than I can afford to lose on this, and I really need to find a solution once and for all, preferable without having to reinstall everything again from scratch, which is what I intend doing once the official Cyanogen Mod becomes available finally.
Thanks in advance, and apologies for the long post.
try this http://androidandme.com/2009/08/news/how-to-manually-partition-your-sd-card-for-android-apps2sd/
and install S2E + FreeSpace
Deodex your rom using my tutorial !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21853516&postcount=1
Make partition in cwm yet easy but...it will format your sd...on minitool is better if u have lots of thing on your sd...
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I got some problems doing this. This is what I did:
I had many apps installed and moved to SD (8gb class 4), so I made a backup of the SD content.
I formatted it, and created 2 partitions (6.8gb and 515mb) using Minitool Partition Wizard. Both are primary and FAT32 (if I create the 2nd partition as EXT2 the phone says SD is damaged).
Moved my backup content again to the 6.8gb partition and rebooted the phone.
Looks like everything is right but Link2SD says "second partition not found".
What IM doing wrong?
Would Link2SD detect that 2nd partition if I flash my phone and I start installing apps now that my SD has 2 partitions?
IMHO from what I've experience, Link2sd does not accept fat partitions. I had the same problem.
Are you looking for the correct type of partition?
Start Link2sd>menu>More>recreate mount scripts and choose FAT32/FAT16
truth57 said:
Hi everyone. Since I see that at least part of this thread seems to be talking about Link2SD, I wondered whether anyone might be able to offer some insight into the problem I am experiencing.
Before that however, let me explain that I started off with an 8GB micro SD card with a 500MB EXT4 partition. I had been fast running out of space in the internal phone memory, and my SD drive itself was also filling up fast. When I installed Link2SD I managed to regain a considerable amount of free space on the internal memory.
The problem is though that once I had linked the majority of my apps to the EXT4 partition and backed up the device in that condition with CWM, once I rebooted the system all the apps that were linked had disappeared. However there are still some 244MB of files on the EXT4 partition that Link2SD says are in use, and I cannot delete them.
I then purchased a 16GB micro SD card from Samsung, and tried to restore the CWM backup to that card....my apps were missing apart from the few that remained on the FAT32 partition and in the phone memory....I should mention that this also happened before I installed the CM7.1 ROM.
Now things have really become problematic. I decided to remove quite a few apps, then download the latest version of Link2SD from the apps Market. But although there is now plenty of space on all partitions I keep getting the 'insufficient storage available' message, and I cannot install anything. I also did a CWM restore on the original 8GB SD card with the same result. This is why I cannot lay the blame fully on Link2SD, as there has to be a glitch somewhere in my installation.
FreeSpace [Root] shows the following on the 8GB based system:
Cache free space 20.7MB
Data free 16.6MB
Ext free 265.0MB
SD-card free 959.1MB
System free 48.2MB
So what gives? I really don't understand what's going on. I am running the latest CM7.1-RC1 Cooper-Grif ROM build number GWK74, with Kernel version 2.6.35.7-CL-562111 [email protected]#1 with all updates necessary. This is costing me more time than I can afford to lose on this, and I really need to find a solution once and for all, preferable without having to reinstall everything again from scratch, which is what I intend doing once the official Cyanogen Mod becomes available finally.
Thanks in advance, and apologies for the long post.
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Try s2e best app for CM roms,nearly perfect app, dnt have to link ur data again n again, it does its job without bugging u, try it u would love it
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I've searched and found a lot of topics on App2sd, data2sd and Link2sd.. after reading all I've come to the conclusion that Link2sd is the one to gos for.. But, I've seen a lot of link2sd apps.. want to know which is the original..
Also, do let me kno which will the best format for the 2nd partition on galaxy ace(ext2,ext3 or ext4) on stability and speed..
Just tell the right steps to follow for using link2sd..
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Anyone..plz provide me the solution..
Thank you
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I've searched and found a lot of topics on App2sd, data2sd and Link2sd.. after reading all I've come to the conclusion that Link2sd is the one to gos for.. But, I've seen a lot of link2sd apps.. want to know which is the original..
Also, do let me kno which will the best format for the 2nd partition on galaxy ace(ext2,ext3 or ext4) on stability and speed..
Just tell the right steps to follow for using link2sd..
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1) create a partition using CWM in advance section of recovery(swap size 0 M) 512 mb is sufficient
2)download app link2sd from market
3)open it...and choose partition type of ur choice (ext4 works well )
4)finally click on any app saved in internal memory and click on CREATE LINK
5)You are done! :beer:
Ask if any problem...
Press thanks if i helped :thumbup:
Ext2/Ext3 is pretty much the same using default settings (unless you enable journaling in ext3). Ext4 adds journaling.
Ext2 is the most friendly for SD life. Ext4, not as much, but it has other perks (GIYF).
Also, you might want to show apps installed on the SD Card, select them all then Create Link first. It'll save you some extra space and re-enable widgets if available. Then you can move your internal apps if you want.
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Ext2/Ext3 is pretty much the same using default settings (unless you enable journaling in ext3). Ext4 adds journaling.
Ext2 is the most friendly for SD life. Ext4, not as much, but it has other perks (GIYF).
Also, you might want to show apps installed on the SD Card, select them all then Create Link first. It'll save you some extra space and re-enable widgets if available. Then you can move your internal apps if you want.
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I didn't understand what did u mean by show apps installed on SD card and select them, create link.. Do I have to Create link also for apps already stored in SD card..
And, I think Ext3 will be the best for.. what say?
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varunmehta11 said:
I didn't understand what did u mean by show apps installed on SD card and select them, create link.. Do I have to Create link also for apps already stored in SD card..
And, I think Ext3 will be the best for.. what say?
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Once you have Link2SD installed, you can select "SD Card" as a filter. It will show all apps installed on the SD card. It would be a good idea to link these apps ("Create Link") (thus moving them back to phone storage, and then again to the SD Card, but to the 2nd partition this time) for three reasons:
You can move the dalvik-cache as well, which means you'll save extra space.
If the app has widgets, you'll be able to use them again (e.g. SoundHound).
Should you mount your SD card to the PC, the apps will still be available since the 2nd partition doesn't get mounted.
I've tested Link2sd.. Only Ext2 gets detected and mounted to be used in Link2sd.. Ext3/4 doesn't get mounted.( I'm using the Stock kernel)
On stock kernels ext3 and ext4 not always work, fat32 or ext2 always work. Its ok, won't make a real difference, the class of the sd card has way more impact on performance.
If you want you can create partition (with ext4) with minitool partition on your pc. (see this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=SD_card_partitioning)
Same problem, even if partition is formatted as ext4, Link2SD defaults to ext2. I have had a few times where it loses link by itself and all linked apps stops working.
Ext4
If you want to get your ext4 mounted. You must make a partition as ext4 to (I use partition wizard).. Not ext3, or ext2, or either..
I am sorry for my bad english..
Gizmotech said:
Same problem, even if partition is formatted as ext4, Link2SD defaults to ext2. I have had a few times where it loses link by itself and all linked apps stops working.
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I've had this especially when restoring nandroid backups. The 05mountsd script in the init.d folder of some roms creates a conflict with Link2sd. Simply delete that script, problem solved.
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NaraRockingMyAce said:
If you want to get your ext4 mounted. You must make a partition as ext4 to (I use partition wizard).. Not ext3, or ext2, or either..
I am sorry for my bad english..
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I did format it as EXT4 with MiniTool but mounts as EXT2 on Link2SD upon reboot even after choosing EXT4.
mitchst2 said:
I've had this especially when restoring nandroid backups. The 05mountsd script in the init.d folder of some roms creates a conflict with Link2sd. Simply delete that script, problem solved.
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I don't have and Init.d support or scripts