Hello all,
I've a question since some day, I try to find the answer with search but with no success.
Which benefit you can receive with UV or OV?
I think that:
The UV is better for battery life but with less performance.
The OV give a better performance but consume more battery.
If so... why you find many overclock setup with more Mhz but less Volts?
I cannot understand that... it's look like a no sense for me.
I've a Galaxy S with NEO 17 Kernel.
Actually use:
Governor: conservative
Force Minimal freq when screen off: OFF
1200 Mhz -25
1000 Mhz -50
800 Mhz -50
400 Mhz -50
200 Mhz -75
100 Mhz -100
I try this setup coping from other post, because I want the better life battery for "office use" but a good performance when I do gaming... but I cannot understad why of this setting
PS: sorry for my poor english.
eXtr3me79 said:
Hello all,
I've a question since some day, I try to find the answer with search but with no success.
Which benefit you can receive with UV or OV?
I think that:
The UV is better for battery life but with less performance.
The OV give a better performance but consume more battery.
If so... why you find many overclock setup with more Mhz but less Volts?
I cannot understand that... it's look like a no sense for me.
I've a Galaxy S with NEO 17 Kernel.
Actually use:
Governor: conservative
Force Minimal freq when screen off: OFF
1200 Mhz -25
1000 Mhz -50
800 Mhz -50
400 Mhz -50
200 Mhz -75
100 Mhz -100
I try this setup coping from other post, because I want the better life battery for "office use" but a good performance when I do gaming... but I cannot understad why of this setting
PS: sorry for my poor english.
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How come you think that UV means "less performance"? Core voltage has nothing to do with performance (at least not in the way, you mentioned it)
I think you can found some good tutorials about OC/UV, somewhere in sgs section..so check those out to learn more about this subject.
It isn't always very easy to figure out these things, but it's good that everybody can found lots of information from xda
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Kurre said:
Core voltage has nothing to do with performance (at least not in the way, you mentioned it)
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First of all thanks for your reply.
I "suppose" that under voltage is mean less performance, but I really don't konw.
I want to understand why I have the possibility to under or over voltage and what does mean...
In order to make an example, which different are there if I put 1.200 Mhz with voltage -50 or 1.200 Mhz with +100 voltage?
Sorry I'm newbe in overclocking!
I was using oc for few days and I didnt find a better performance except the quadrant score. Anyway oc is a risk process. If we are not getting that much performance then why should we take risk. Try Darky ROM v10.2RE and flash semaphore kernel you will get a better performance without OC.
http://samsung-sgs.blogspot.com/2011/08/how-to-flash-darkys-rom-v102-re.html
http://samsung-sgs.blogspot.com/2011/08/how-to-flash-semaphore-kernel.html
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hi guys,
does anyone have a tried and working UV values for best battery life? I don't want any more performance, so I'm not looking for OC, but perhaps any idea what UV stays stable?
Well, it's easy the higher you OC, the more it will drain your battery. As for UV, I can't tell because the voltages are different for every device, Rom and kernel...
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Usually undervolting -50mv for each speed will work for most devices, although its not recommended to decrease that much for speeds below 800mhz since it will affect your phone's wake up speed.
And tegra 2 cpu controller only supports minimum of 770mv, going anyway lower than this value will not have any effect.
My advice, try UV -25mv for 500mhz, and the rest above is -50mv. Some o2x can go -100mv, but you need to be lucky to own such device.
Cheers!
Mine is working perfectly on -75.
But when i go to -100, soemtime freezes device, so i use -75 regularly.
trying -50 across the board now, seems to run stable.
brw, how does lower voltage hurt the speed?
I can't really explain clearly since I do not know the technicals, but from what I read in xda, it will affect your speed, meaning 1.2ghz running at undervolted setting will not run the same as at stock voltage. Maybe its an efficiency issue, I do not know.
I thing that i experience, If you undervolt too much the few lowest clock steppings, you sometimes might not able to wake the phone from sleep because there is not enough power to wake it up.
I hope my explanation help you a little, and hopefully someone with more experience can give you a better explanation.
using -25mv ate 1.1ghz and 1ghz, -50mv at 800 Mhz, and -100mhz (750Mhz so its 770mhz because hardware limitations) on all other frequencies!
-50 mv is the limit for the device don't use below -50mv. but it dependes on your device. mine cannot UV it always gives me SOD i think my hardware phone is crap
antec123 said:
-50 mv is the limit for the device don't use below -50mv. but it dependes on your device. mine cannot UV it always gives me SOD i think my hardware phone is crap
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When did you buy your phone?
I have one of the 10 first phones sold in Sweden and I cannot undervolt mine at all.
Just wondering if there's any correlation between manufacturing time and UVability (yeah I just made that word up).
// Stefan
I run with 1100.. good compromise between speed and battery life i think
Simple question.
My freq now is 633 mhz..still will it shorten the life of my cpu???
Or higher freq and I mean not just for gaming,for everyday use.
Its mainly cuz of 360 launcher.
You need some higher freq to get the smooth look.
So???
Well, I've been using Overclock since the Day overclock came out..
And i have no damn problems .. CPU is still working Great!
And just to let ye know its clocked on 768 MHz ;D
Just overclock it Dude..
Your x8 will be Okay
But if u kept using it for long periods..
it might endanger Your CPU
Also be careful not to fall into a bootloop .. uncheck the Set on Boot option ..
check if it's working alright on 768 .. then check the Set on boot..
I have GDXv22 with [email protected] . .
Medo2 said:
Simple question.
My freq now is 633 mhz..still will it shorten the life of my cpu???
Or higher freq and I mean not just for gaming,for everyday use.
Its mainly cuz of 360 launcher.
You need some higher freq to get the smooth look.
So???
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Overclocking by 33MHz isn't dangerous, that's very mild.
In General - the more you overclock from the specified values (in case of the X8: 600MHz) the more heat you produce and the more you push the chip to the bleeding edge.
In short: Every integrated circuit has some headroom for overclock as the manufacturer specifies the clock rate at an safe value and not at the very bleeding edge where variances in the chip making process could lead to too high yields because they don't run stable with the clock frequency. In general you don't do your electronics a favor when pushing it too far. 700MHz+ will surely shorten the life span of your phone, how much would need to be seen as there's no real long-term experience.
Wow thanks guys.
You see after some thinkig it aint the cpu freq that is slow.
I set my low freq when in sleep on 245 so the phone is slow on waking up.
When you set it on high the phone will respond better!
like PC, when overclock it may reduce processor life
any clock reduces the life of your cpu. the higher the clock rate less life cpu
hello,
im just wondering first of all whats the best speed to OC without permanent damage. I have done over 900 Mhz but I will get maybe 1 or 2 reboots a day so I went down to 864Mhz and its been smooth no problems. but what do you think is best to use.
also taking the first question to mind, what governor and i/o settings should I use to give the best balance between battery life and performance? I have tried smartassv2 and the battery like suffers.
Please give me your opinion for what is the best combination for my phone
Well first of all you can't have both performance and battery life.
If you are after performance go for 883 ( I think. I don't exactly remember the freq so forgive me for that) or what you suggested yourself (864) and set the governor to interactive and min frequency to 245. Personally I would set the governor to performance and Max frequency to 864 min 245 though it may sound crazy but that's my settings, phone doesn't get as hot as it used to battery life has kinda increased actually well if you think about it you will see that your phone will complete a given task in a shorter time and therefore ...
If you are after battery life then don't think about over clocking. In fact you might wanna under clock to certain level.
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Hello! This is my first kernel, The UnleaZhed XTZ Kernel. I'm a noob in developing a kernel, so some bugs may be found in this kernel and I may not be able to fix them! One more important thing, this kernel uses the sources from some developers and I'm here to present my greatest thanks to everyone of them!
FLASH AT YOUR OWN RISK!!
UnleaZhed XTZ Kernel
Requirements:
4.4.2 Xperia Tablet Z Wi-Fi version (SGP311/312)
Unlocked bootloader
Fastboot driver installed computer
Features:
CPU overclock up to 1836MHz
CPU UV by 100 default
CPU UV control
GPU overclock up to 450MHz (due to some bandwidth problem)
Use auto CPU hotplug instead of MP-Decision
Some minor things
!!recovery has resolution problem ATM!!
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Installation:
1. Make your Tablet Z in fastboot mode
2. On your computer, open cmd and navigate to the location of kernel
3. Type "fastboot flash boot Kernel_name.img
4. Type "fastboot reboot"
5. Enjoy!
Downloads:
UnleaZhed XTZ v0.1
UnleaZhed XTZ v0.1.1
UnleaZhed XTZ v0.2
Credit:
DoomLoRD
thalamus
Sony
Faux123
Source:
My Github
Nice try but do you have any plans for an aosp kernel?i like overclock and the extra features but it is too tough to say goodbye to pac rom
pangiotis24 said:
Nice try but do you have any plans for an aosp kernel?i like overclock and the extra features but it is too tough to say goodbye to pac rom
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Will do but it may be done in the next month, Thanks for your suggestion.
First of all THANK YOU for spending your time on this and sharing your result with us!
Just flashed the kernel! Good news...nothing is bricked
CPU Spy Plus indeed shows 1836 Mhz used! I did´t do anything for that.
You might re-think this. Using 1512Mhz instead by default and let the users choose that high speed CPU mode themselves as it may not be stable on all devices.
That 324Mhz added is a huge step...there is no step in between possible?
What about voltages. Did you modify anything? Is the voltage raised to achieve the high cpu frequency? Please post some more information about what happens here...
In fact I´m just running Antutu to see general stability on my device.
VERY BAD score. Before your kenel there were 20300 points. Now with OC only 19746.
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EDIT: Just recognized.... several questions are being answered by Antutu CPU Master.
1512 IS USED by default!
1620Mhz and 1728 Mhz are there to choose and of course finally the 1836Mhz.
Scaling is interactive by default (changed to my fav ondemand)
I/O Scheduler is cfq by default (changed to my fav noop)
Antutu Score @ 1836Mhz: 16077Mhz ???
Lower than without OC? Needs retesting (14230 point when setting max to 1836Mhz and Min to 1512Mhz(!!!???)...maybe the benchmark is wrong...Will give it some time to see if I myself feel a speedup.
After Restart Antutu Score ends up @ 19761 points...not bad. but clearyl not enough looking at the massice OC done. REBOOT! Tab just rebooted! So 1836Mhz is not stable at mine! Trying 1728Mhz now instead.
18139 points....this kernel lacks some serious power if we can believe the scores of antutu. This is a V0.1 so nothing to worry too soon. You´ll make it find it´s power
Switched back to kernel from pulser_g2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2444452) and 19908 points without any OC! You may look into it.
But please answer the other questiones I wasn´t able to clear myself.
Greetings
Rodger
DJ-Tumor said:
First of all THANK YOU for spending your time on this and sharing your result with us!
Just flashed the kernel! Good news...nothing is bricked
CPU Spy Plus indeed shows 1836 Mhz used! I did´t do anything for that.
You might re-think this. Using 1512Mhz instead by default and let the users choose that high speed CPU mode themselves as it may not be stable on all devices.
That 324Mhz added is a huge step...there is no step in between possible?
What about voltages. Did you modify anything? Is the voltage raised to achieve the high cpu frequency? Please post some more information about what happens here...
In fact I´m just running Antutu to see general stability on my device.
VERY BAD score. Before your kenel there were 20300 points. Now with OC only 19746.
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EDIT: Just recognized.... several questions are being answered by Antutu CPU Master.
1512 IS USED by default!
1620Mhz and 1728 Mhz are there to choose and of course finally the 1836Mhz.
Scaling is interactive by default (changed to my fav ondemand)
I/O Scheduler is cfq by default (changed to my fav noop)
Antutu Score @ 1836Mhz: 16077Mhz ???
Lower than without OC? Needs retesting (14230 point when setting max to 1836Mhz and Min to 1512Mhz(!!!???)...maybe the benchmark is wrong...Will give it some time to see if I myself feel a speedup.
After Restart Antutu Score ends up @ 19761 points...not bad. but clearyl not enough looking at the massice OC done. REBOOT! Tab just rebooted! So 1836Mhz is not stable at mine! Trying 1728Mhz now instead.
18139 points....this kernel lacks some serious power if we can believe the scores of antutu. This is a V0.1 so nothing to worry too soon. You´ll make it find it´s power
Switched back to kernel from pulser_g2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2444452) and 19908 points without any OC! You may look into it.
But please answer the other questiones I wasn´t able to clear myself.
Greetings
Rodger
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Sorry for my late,
I've tested Antutu with 1512MHz and 1836MHz. For my Tablet Z, I got ~20000 (1512MHz) and ~23000 (1836MHz).
My Tablet Z has fast binning CPU. Can you please tell me which binning your CPU is? Thank you!
hard to tell...did taht thing in Terminal emulator....it tells me "1".
Not fast or slow or anything...
DJ-Tumor said:
First of all THANK YOU for spending your time on this and sharing your result with us!
Just flashed the kernel! Good news...nothing is bricked
CPU Spy Plus indeed shows 1836 Mhz used! I did´t do anything for that.
You might re-think this. Using 1512Mhz instead by default and let the users choose that high speed CPU mode themselves as it may not be stable on all devices.
That 324Mhz added is a huge step...there is no step in between possible?
What about voltages. Did you modify anything? Is the voltage raised to achieve the high cpu frequency? Please post some more information about what happens here...
In fact I´m just running Antutu to see general stability on my device.
VERY BAD score. Before your kenel there were 20300 points. Now with OC only 19746.
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EDIT: Just recognized.... several questions are being answered by Antutu CPU Master.
1512 IS USED by default!
1620Mhz and 1728 Mhz are there to choose and of course finally the 1836Mhz.
Scaling is interactive by default (changed to my fav ondemand)
I/O Scheduler is cfq by default (changed to my fav noop)
Antutu Score @ 1836Mhz: 16077Mhz ???
Lower than without OC? Needs retesting (14230 point when setting max to 1836Mhz and Min to 1512Mhz(!!!???)...maybe the benchmark is wrong...Will give it some time to see if I myself feel a speedup.
After Restart Antutu Score ends up @ 19761 points...not bad. but clearyl not enough looking at the massice OC done. REBOOT! Tab just rebooted! So 1836Mhz is not stable at mine! Trying 1728Mhz now instead.
18139 points....this kernel lacks some serious power if we can believe the scores of antutu. This is a V0.1 so nothing to worry too soon. You´ll make it find it´s power
Switched back to kernel from pulser_g2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2444452) and 19908 points without any OC! You may look into it.
But please answer the other questiones I wasn´t able to clear myself.
Greetings
Rodger
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How is the battery life?
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Destroyedbeauty said:
How is the battery life?
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Don´t know....after the disastrous performance of the first release I of course switched back to stock.
Now there is the new version which does not cut performance in stock mode.
I´ll OC now to 1728 Mhz and see how it performs with that....battery life is not really good with stock so if you are already asking...FORGET ABOUT alternative kernels not optimized for battery.
That is why I don´t use CM oder AOKP on my Note1. I just eats the battery for breakfast....
OK OC just seemed to scale...20300 points (ca. 19300 at stock speed)...trying 1836 Mhz now.
17389 points....clear drawback....possibly because my device seems to have a bad CPU from what I´ve learned....wanted to use the 17xx Mhz anyway....oops....device just rebooted....my device just isn´t capable of the max cpu setting. :crying:
Anyway the working 1728 Mhz working is great news!
Will give it further testing...
I have two APQ8064 devices, Nexus 4 and Tablet Z. Nexus 4 is 0 (slow), it will reboot sometimes even on [email protected], the Antutu would force close and red light of death would happen if you ignore it and attempt to run again. While my Tablet Z is 2 (fast), this can run at [email protected] and got 23XXX in Antutu.
I don't have an idea which frequency can the 1 (nominal) APQ8064 clock at, but I think [email protected] will be OK. Also, keep eyes on the CPU float-point section in Antutu. At 1512Mhz, it is around 2000. At 1836MHz, it is around 2200. If this drop lower, just pull up the voltage BUT NOT TOO MUCH!!!
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Raising voltage is not an option to me. But anyway...which app do you use for that on tablet Z?
What App do you use for cou control?
I use No-frills. Do you change "interactive" and or "cfq"?
Numbers right after reboot and stopping some unused apps...just stock apps running...
2729 / 930 / 1112 / 1050 / 511 / 927 / 1436 / 5278 / 696 / 600
>>> 15269 points @ stock !!!
switching back to stock....
DJ-Tumor said:
Raising voltage is not an option to me. But anyway...which app do you use for that on tablet Z?
What App do you use for cou control?
I use No-frills. Do you change "interactive" and or "cfq"?
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I would like to know this as well. Also, how do you check to see which processor you have? (0,1,2; slow, nominal, fast)
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Spartoi said:
I would like to know this as well. Also, how do check to see which processor you have? (0,1,2; slow, nominal, fast)
Sent from my Xperia Tablet Z
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What is the terminal command to find out? I also considered custom retelling to add some processing oomph. On a per app basis, but reading this... Stock SGP311 on 4.2.2 is chugging fine just north of 20000 points on Antutu. Can we compare Versions? Mine is 3.3.1. I faintly recall reading they mixed up some benchmarking internals because some corporations found loopholes to cheat / inflate scores on new to market devices, maybe that's the discrepancy there?
Another wild thought, could there maybe be, aside from different CPU Models, different kinds of cache / memory scattered through the devices? Would not be the first time a sub par. Cache/Memory bottleneck severely strangled a nominally and factually quicker CPU into much lower overall results. Much depends on weighting within Antutu
Man, what happened with your kernel? We need some stock kernels for 4.3
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So, I went on a "boredom rampage" and I've read an article about a guy overclocking his 865 GPU to 865 MHz and reaching Adreno 660-levels of performance and I decided to give it a try and it was awesome.
Problem is, I'm too much of a thinkerer and I pushed the GPU as much as I could. I ended up on 2000 MHz with "TURBO" voltage profile and it's rock solid even on 2100 MHz with the same profile but KonaBess gives me an error if I try to edit the GPU tables after I booted at 2100 MHz.
I even edited the clock profiles to make it smoother, starting from 305 MHz to 600, 800, 1000, 1200, 1400, 1600, 1800 and 2000 with the right voltages.
Now, the battery and SoC temperatures are the same, the battery drain is basically the same, some other fellow modders with the same device (Mi 10T Pro 5G 8/256 with Pixel Experience Plus ROM) didn't manage to hit the same clocks, crashing even with 1000 or 1200 MHz, with my file from the KonaBess app.
So, have I been extremely lucky with the silicon lottery or it's just an illusion?
Please ask if you need ANY benchmark or proof. I've been monitoring the GPU clock with Franco Kernel Manager Live Monitoring and the clock is solid at 2000 MHz and the 3D performance has at first jumped and then slowly climbed, especially on 3DMark Wild Life Extreme. Wild Life Extreme Stress Test is stable the temperatures are fine.
Do you guys have any questions/suggestions/requests?
Edit: Here are some 3DMark runs, both Wild Life and Wild Life Extreme at stock and 2 GHz. I use Greenify, my storage is 94% full and all my processes in the background take up 4 GB of RAM and I didn't touch the bus for the various steppings for the clocks, so I believe that if heavily tuned, this could make a difference.
post before and after pictures of 3dmark.
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post before and after pictures of 3dmark.
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I have the history of all the bench on 3DMark, because I downloaded it just for this. Would that be ok?
it seems fishy, a 1ghz+ oc would increase your fps by more than that.
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it seems fishy, a 1ghz+ oc would increase your fps by more than that.
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It doesn't have the biggest of bumps from 900 MHz to 1 GHz or 2 GHz, but still, is capable of doing it and rock solid too.
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It doesn't have the biggest of bumps from 900 MHz to 1 GHz or 2 GHz, but still, is capable of doing it and rock solid too.
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i don't think your gpu is actually running at 2ghz while you are running a benchmark. going from stock to 2ghz would at least have to give you an extra 20-30 fps in Wild Life.
TOMPPIX said:
i don't think your gpu is actually running at 2ghz while you are running a benchmark. going from stock to 2ghz would at least have to give you an extra 20-30 fps in Wild Life.
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Not necessarily. The GPU IS running at 2 GHz but I think that the problem might be some diminishing returns where the clock doesn't mean anything after a certain point.
Are you try locking the freq on 2ghz in Kernel maneger ? Set min and max to 2gzhz with performance governor .
astronomy2021 said:
Are you try locking the freq on 2ghz in Kernel maneger ? Set min and max to 2gzhz with performance governor .
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I've made various frequency steps. 400, 600, 800, 1000, 1200, 1400, 1600, 1800 and 2000 MHz. But if I change the governor, after I reboot, it will be msm-adreno-tz again. Max frequency is still 2000 MHz and minimum 400 MHz.
Yes after reboot is resets like on every phone you have to check apply on boot and select min 2000GHZ and max 2000ghz GPu freq in tap in FKM and set gov to performance and do benchmark like 3dmark wild life . Like that. And in Smart pack Kernel manager free app is GPU throttle turn that off.
Check box apply on boot and after boot will be apply.
And that you can show improvements of OC
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I've made various frequency steps. 400, 600, 800, 1000, 1200, 1400, 1600, 1800 and 2000 MHz. But if I change the governor, after I reboot, it will be msm-adreno-tz again. Max frequency is still 2000 MHz and minimum 400 MHz.
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Can you share your Konabess txt file to import. I"m buying it I and want overclock.
astronomy2021 said:
Can you share your Konabess txt file to import. I"m buying it I and want overclock.
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Thanks What is temperature ? Do you game with that or this just experiment ?
Temperatures are roughly the same. I do game with that. On normal games, frequency stays at 400 MHz, but on really heavy games like Genshin Impact, completely maxed out, depending on the scene, the GPU goes to 1.6 or 1.8 GHz and rarely at 2 GHz during some heavy cutscenes. 3DMark keeps it at 2 GHz all the time.
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Temperatures are roughly the same. I do game with that. On normal games, frequency stays at 400 MHz, but on really heavy games like Genshin Impact, completely maxed out, depending on the scene, the GPU goes to 1.6 or 1.8 GHz and rarely at 2 GHz during some heavy cutscenes. 3DMark keeps it at 2 GHz all the time.
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That super. What ROM do you use ?
Pixel Experience Plus
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Pixel Experience Plus
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Thianks
Hello, excuse my ignorance, but I want to learn what konabess is, it's an app or a magisk module, I also have the xiaomi mi 10t pro with DotOs rum android 11 and then I want to play more fluently, could you help me
konabess app is software you can overclock GPU and undervolt.
You need root and that it.
https://github.com/libxzr/KonaBess
Here tutorial but it old I need make new one because there isn't good one tutorial about it.
This doesn't make any sense. Why would Qualcomm leave so much on the table ?