hello,
im just wondering first of all whats the best speed to OC without permanent damage. I have done over 900 Mhz but I will get maybe 1 or 2 reboots a day so I went down to 864Mhz and its been smooth no problems. but what do you think is best to use.
also taking the first question to mind, what governor and i/o settings should I use to give the best balance between battery life and performance? I have tried smartassv2 and the battery like suffers.
Please give me your opinion for what is the best combination for my phone
Well first of all you can't have both performance and battery life.
If you are after performance go for 883 ( I think. I don't exactly remember the freq so forgive me for that) or what you suggested yourself (864) and set the governor to interactive and min frequency to 245. Personally I would set the governor to performance and Max frequency to 864 min 245 though it may sound crazy but that's my settings, phone doesn't get as hot as it used to battery life has kinda increased actually well if you think about it you will see that your phone will complete a given task in a shorter time and therefore ...
If you are after battery life then don't think about over clocking. In fact you might wanna under clock to certain level.
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hi folks, thinking about leaving oc on permenantly (1200 mhz) I an aware of the dangers, but thought about getting some facts, my question is, how long have people been running art 1200 mhz without any issues, how many weeks or months?
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1200mhz refers to the highest clock. Your phone doesn't stick to that frequency all the time. It generally scales from 100mhz to 1200mhz. It doesn't really matter if you overclock your device except for effects on battery and I don't think there would be any effect on the Hardware as much as that of an Overclocked computer cpu and considering the average number of months people tend to use their mobile device before getting a new and a better phone.
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1200mhz refers to the highest clock. Your phone doesn't stick to that frequency all the time. It generally scales from 100mhz to 1200mhz. It doesn't really matter if you overclock your device except for effects on battery and I don't think there would be any effect on the Hardware as much as that of an Overclocked computer cpu and considering the average number of months people tend to use their mobile device before getting a new and a better phone.
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my phone spends approx 20% of its time at Max freq, thats 1/5 th of its time. I think there would be more potential damage than a computer cpu as these have much better cooling (fans), I just want to know how long people have run at say 1200 without any issues.
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Longest time: two weeks ... whitout problems ...
I'm been overclocking my SGS for over 6 months now, no issues at all.
"Standard" voltage values seems to work fine on my device (1350mV at 1200MHz, 1400mV at 1300MHz) but I've tried to undervolt a bit more than once and had no issues as well.
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There are absolutely no dangers in OC/UV. The worst thing to happen is a freeze or reboot once in a while if u go too high. I've been having 1.5mhz w/ some UV for like 2 months and nothing happened so no worries.
Been doing that for about a month now. No problem.
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there are no risks if you overclock your device,but of course depends on how you do it. first of all i would not go past 1300mV which is the physical limit of our beloved hummingbird..of course you can do that,but past 1300mV you are going to shorten the life of your CPU. if you change phone every year then,there's no problem
then if you want to overclock keeping safe voltage values just get Tegrak Overclock,don't activate the "CPU MAX frequency" option,go in optimization tab instead and push up the max frequency by little steps keeping the voltage at the default value of 1275. test it a bit till you reach the most stable one. for example my CPU it's totally rocksolid 'till 1132MHz at 1275mV,no more. but there are CPUs which can archieve better results. then if you want to optimize and save battery consumption you can play a bit with UV on the other frequencies,cheers
hi guys,
does anyone have a tried and working UV values for best battery life? I don't want any more performance, so I'm not looking for OC, but perhaps any idea what UV stays stable?
Well, it's easy the higher you OC, the more it will drain your battery. As for UV, I can't tell because the voltages are different for every device, Rom and kernel...
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Usually undervolting -50mv for each speed will work for most devices, although its not recommended to decrease that much for speeds below 800mhz since it will affect your phone's wake up speed.
And tegra 2 cpu controller only supports minimum of 770mv, going anyway lower than this value will not have any effect.
My advice, try UV -25mv for 500mhz, and the rest above is -50mv. Some o2x can go -100mv, but you need to be lucky to own such device.
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Mine is working perfectly on -75.
But when i go to -100, soemtime freezes device, so i use -75 regularly.
trying -50 across the board now, seems to run stable.
brw, how does lower voltage hurt the speed?
I can't really explain clearly since I do not know the technicals, but from what I read in xda, it will affect your speed, meaning 1.2ghz running at undervolted setting will not run the same as at stock voltage. Maybe its an efficiency issue, I do not know.
I thing that i experience, If you undervolt too much the few lowest clock steppings, you sometimes might not able to wake the phone from sleep because there is not enough power to wake it up.
I hope my explanation help you a little, and hopefully someone with more experience can give you a better explanation.
using -25mv ate 1.1ghz and 1ghz, -50mv at 800 Mhz, and -100mhz (750Mhz so its 770mhz because hardware limitations) on all other frequencies!
-50 mv is the limit for the device don't use below -50mv. but it dependes on your device. mine cannot UV it always gives me SOD i think my hardware phone is crap
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-50 mv is the limit for the device don't use below -50mv. but it dependes on your device. mine cannot UV it always gives me SOD i think my hardware phone is crap
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When did you buy your phone?
I have one of the 10 first phones sold in Sweden and I cannot undervolt mine at all.
Just wondering if there's any correlation between manufacturing time and UVability (yeah I just made that word up).
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I run with 1100.. good compromise between speed and battery life i think
Simple question.
My freq now is 633 mhz..still will it shorten the life of my cpu???
Or higher freq and I mean not just for gaming,for everyday use.
Its mainly cuz of 360 launcher.
You need some higher freq to get the smooth look.
So???
Well, I've been using Overclock since the Day overclock came out..
And i have no damn problems .. CPU is still working Great!
And just to let ye know its clocked on 768 MHz ;D
Just overclock it Dude..
Your x8 will be Okay
But if u kept using it for long periods..
it might endanger Your CPU
Also be careful not to fall into a bootloop .. uncheck the Set on Boot option ..
check if it's working alright on 768 .. then check the Set on boot..
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Medo2 said:
Simple question.
My freq now is 633 mhz..still will it shorten the life of my cpu???
Or higher freq and I mean not just for gaming,for everyday use.
Its mainly cuz of 360 launcher.
You need some higher freq to get the smooth look.
So???
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Overclocking by 33MHz isn't dangerous, that's very mild.
In General - the more you overclock from the specified values (in case of the X8: 600MHz) the more heat you produce and the more you push the chip to the bleeding edge.
In short: Every integrated circuit has some headroom for overclock as the manufacturer specifies the clock rate at an safe value and not at the very bleeding edge where variances in the chip making process could lead to too high yields because they don't run stable with the clock frequency. In general you don't do your electronics a favor when pushing it too far. 700MHz+ will surely shorten the life span of your phone, how much would need to be seen as there's no real long-term experience.
Wow thanks guys.
You see after some thinkig it aint the cpu freq that is slow.
I set my low freq when in sleep on 245 so the phone is slow on waking up.
When you set it on high the phone will respond better!
like PC, when overclock it may reduce processor life
any clock reduces the life of your cpu. the higher the clock rate less life cpu
Which combination of governor and scheduler gives the best performance for ICS Stock ? And which one for better battery life ?
Akilesh said:
Which combination of governor and scheduler gives the best performance for ICS Stock ? And which one for better battery life ?
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Other said it is pegasus and devs say it is all the same just a little difference.
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Other said it is pegasus and devs say it is all the same just a little difference.
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I was told by the majority it goes in this order:
1) Pegasusq
2) Lulzactive
3) SmartassV2
4) Ondemand
5) Hotplug
6) Interactive
... and the rest.
And for IO Scheduler:
1) VR
2) CFQ
3) SIO
The truth is that, this is a Dual Core Phone with 1GB RAM, and improved Android 4.03+ kernel. So the previous hardware and software limitations NO LONGER applies. Coming FROM the DEVELOPERS of governors and schedulers the best ones seem to be:
1) InteractiveX2
2) HotplugX
3) Ondemand
... then lulzactive ~ pegasusq > smartassV2
And for IO Schedulers:
1) SIO
... then the rest
The truth is you should use the DEVELOPER recommended governor and sio scheduler, for an extensive period (1-2 days) and compare them. Finding what works best for you. After that's done, then you should go further stability testing with Voltage Control. Eg, UC your lowest frequency, OC your highest frequency and UV each step to the NEEDS of your device, each device is UNIQUE and functions DIFFERENTLY.
I think doing so you should extend your battery life by 1 or 1.5hour per cycle, while maintaining or increasing performance.
it all depends on the ROM + Kernel and more importantly the user and how they use their Note.
For me, I use Performance + Noop.. But ive had good results with pegasusq + sio
The only way to get the best combination is to try them all, But give them time to perform, Dont make a decision after 5 mins of usage, Test them heavily, Do some serious Gaming + Multitasking and chose one that outperforms the rest !
I'll start testing and post results from time to time.
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it all depends on the ROM + Kernel and more importantly the user and how they use their Note.
For me, I use Performance + Noop.. But ive had good results with pegasusq + sio
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But the performance governor never scales down but always runs at maximum frequency. How is battery life with that? Must be horrible?!
Kangal said:
I was told by the majority it goes in this order:
The truth is you should use the DEVELOPER recommended governor and sio scheduler, for an extensive period (1-2 days) and compare them. Finding what works best for you. After that's done, then you should go further stability testing with Voltage Control. Eg, UC your lowest frequency, OC your highest frequency and UV each step to the NEEDS of your device, each device is UNIQUE and functions DIFFERENTLY.
I think doing so you should extend your battery life by 1 or 1.5hour per cycle, while maintaining or increasing performance.
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I agree, governors even if they have the same stock names(i.e ondemand) has been heavily tweaked by the kernel dev so that you maximize performance and batt life. Start off by using the kernel/scheduler suggested by the kernel dev.
The only thing I care about is running out of juice when I don't have access to something that can charge my phone, as long as i get 10-15hrs off batt life and solid performance I'm good. Still I always bring a wall charger/usb cord with me if i really needed the extra juice.
Remember you can charge the battery but you can't charge performance
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But the performance governor never scales down but always runs at maximum frequency. How is battery life with that? Must be horrible?!
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I get around 24 hours from my battery and I'm happy with that, besides I'm always somewhere where I can charge my phone should by battery run out
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Remember you can charge the battery but you can't charge performance
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This sentence doesn't make sense at all.
Unless you mean you can change or recharge the battery, which is straight-forward.
But you can "change" (increase) the performance. Just clear all background tasks, go to Voltage Control and overclock the cpu frequency upto 1.704GHz (with +1400mV) and keep it at that frequency by using the Performance governor. Also overclock your gpu upto 400MHz (with +1,000mV).
Though I don't recommend that, stability issues, warming issues and possible physical damage to your processor. But use the same concept, just not Overclock too much!
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I get around 24 hours from my battery and I'm happy with that, besides I'm always somewhere where I can charge my phone should by battery run out
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That's simply NOT true.
Otherwise you have your phone in deep sleep/idle far more than the average user, barely using your phone.
Other possibility is that you've severely underclocked your maximum frequency, and have a long time in idle.
Performance governor = Always on maximum frequency.
NOTE's maximum frequency uses 1300+ mV. The NOTE's battery size is 2,500 mAh. Simple maths will tell you 24hrs is impossible ; )
But it is true I'm not saying my phone will be awake for 24 hours I'm saying I charge it roughly every 24 hours, I know performance keeps the phone at max speeds but I am human I will sleep for about 8-9 hours, so in result so will my phone.
And I don't use my phone every minute of the day I do have work to do so my battery life is what I say it is. What I consider 'average use' might be absolute minimal use to you so maybe that's why you doubt me,
I personally don't mess with voltages and things cause I don't understand them but I use note core kernel which is highly tweaked and one of the best kernels for battery life
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My recommendation is lulzactive.
i use hotplug+sio on maclaws slim bean,, awesome battery life
I am looking for a CPU governor I can use with just the root that our AT&T Note 3's currently have. What I would like to do is have a governor so when certain games that are really draining my battery are running that it will lower the CPU and give me better battery life. Is this possible with our current root only? I read that SetCPU had this feature with app based profiles but the recent reviews are stating that the app based profiles are not working correctly. Does anyone have any suggestion of what I could use?
Set cpu is working for me, I have the paid version though. I put it on performance governor and it held 1 core wide open at 2265. I then changed it to ondemand and the core dropped to 300. There's also a conservative, interactive, user space and power save governors. Search governors for explanation of each governors settings/purpose.
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I am looking for a CPU governor I can use with just the root that our AT&T Note 3's currently have. What I would like to do is have a governor so when certain games that are really draining my battery are running that it will lower the CPU and give me better battery life. Is this possible with our current root only? I read that SetCPU had this feature with app based profiles but the recent reviews are stating that the app based profiles are not working correctly. Does anyone have any suggestion of what I could use?
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You can set a profile to lower CPU when your battery gets above a certain speed. That would be your best. Another alternative is to set a max speed for x condition or y. Doing all of the above will lower the performance of your game. It would be best to try different max speeds that still allow you to play your game enjoyably and go from there. Games are just a battery hog, even if you lower your speed it will still take milliamps than you'd prefer. I think off hand to just try, is set max speed at the 15xx speed and just use on demand or interactive. Power save will lower performance too dramatically and possibly kill more battery. Performance is really for the most demanding of games or benchmarking.
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You can set a profile to lower CPU when your battery gets above a certain speed. That would be your best. Another alternative is to set a max speed for x condition or y. Doing all of the above will lower the performance of your game. It would be best to try different max speeds that still allow you to play your game enjoyably and go from there. Games are just a battery hog, even if you lower your speed it will still take milliamps than you'd prefer. I think off hand to just try, is set max speed at the 15xx speed and just use on demand or interactive. Power save will lower performance too dramatically and possibly kill more battery. Performance is really for the most demanding of games or benchmarking.
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so this may be a dumb question, but is 300MHz the lowest clock speed it can reach? I just installed Better Battery Stats on my Nexus 7 (2012) and it can get down to 50MHz. Just looking to conserve more battery. Thanks!
Just get a Zerolemon 10000 mah battery and never worry about what is using your battery again. They are only 50 bucks and that includes the special case/protector to house the phone and the battery.
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Just get a Zerolemon 10000 mah battery and never worry about what is using your battery again. They are only 50 bucks and that includes the special case/protector to house the phone and the battery.
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That's not really an option for me. I often rock the phone with no case at all and like it in its 168g form. I already have 30-40 hour batterly life with 3-4 hrs of screen time. But I just noticed the lowest clock speed it 300Mhz and I think it can be lower!
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Just get a Zerolemon 10000 mah battery and never worry about what is using your battery again. They are only 50 bucks and that includes the special case/protector to house the phone and the battery.
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Yes! This is my solution. No worries when mpdecision gets stuck on 4.4.2 and stops sleeping cores, who cares?! Pry-Fi running continuously in War mode, booyah.