I couldn't find a clear answer very quickly... so I'm going out on a limb and just need to throw a quick question out there which should be a an easy one for experienced flashers.
I've been out of the flashing game for awhile now... been running Serendipity for some time. I'm wanting to give something else a try and want to do it the safest way possible, so I plan to master clear first. I have ran a Titanium Backup batch of everything I need (I believe) and am close to going ahead with the master clear.
I guess what this boils down to for me is a concern with the filesystem. I'm not clear on whether or not something has to be done with that before flashing or if the master clear process is going to safely just convert back to the original file system.
Hoping someone can shed a quick light for me and I'll move forward...
a master clear doesnt do **** for the filesystem. it is just formatting your internal sdcard....aka, you dont need to do it
ODIN flash back to stock will actually repartition, reformat, and flash the stock rom back on.
dont confuse the 2.....master clear is the same as going into your storage options in settings and formatting the internal sd card and going to the privacy section and deleting everything
Master clear doesn't touch the file system. It just wipes the internal memory. flashing to stock will resets the file system.
Perfect, that is exactly what I needed to know. I copied all the crap off of my sdcard and plan to masterclear anyway just to get an idea of how much I don't need anymore.
This does clear it all up, thanks guys.
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Im thinking about rerooting my g1 from scratch but wad wondering once thats done if I transfer my ext backup from bart and to a restore that all my ext info would be there.....I'm trying to avoid downloading all my apps again
I've never done this, but I'd say, most likely, yes. You don't even have to go through the trouble with BART, really. Just backup everything from your ext partition to a computer or something, and re-root. You probably won't even have to restore--if you're using a stable build like cyanogen, and you don't wipe your ext, it should still all be there the first time you boot to cyanogen and tap the green Android to begin setup.
I would still do a backup first, though, in case you have fc's and have to wipe ext. If that's the case, then after setup and all, just drop the files you backed up back onto your ext partition, reboot, and voila, your apps are back. Oh, how I love A2SD!
Or you can BART. Especially if you're on Windows, which doesn't recognize ext. Whatever floats your boat, though.
Hi, Im trying to exchange my phone and Im having issues with getting the phone bone stock. I used odin 1 click, did a factory data reset, and all my pictures, app folders and various other things are still on the internal SD card. I was using titanium backup, I think thats the cause (not sure though)
I also just flashed JH3, super rooter, and the OC kernel. But as far as I can tell, those are back to factory. I just cant wipe all my data and I dont know if doing it manually will clear up everything.
Suggestions/questions? Thanks!
I even tried the master clear. I can still see files for shootme, sl4a, clockworkmod, update.zip's, and tons of other folders including busybox
Did you try connecting your phone to your computer, mounting the sd card, then open the driver than your sd card is on and manually delete the files that way? You can move the titanium back up to an external sd card and see if that helps.
Go to Titanium Backup support and shoot them a pm, they got back to me within a day when I had questions if you think it's related to that.
Rhiannon224 said:
Did you try connecting your phone to your computer, mounting the sd card, then open the driver than your sd card is on and manually delete the files that way? You can move the titanium back up to an external sd card and see if that helps.
Go to Titanium Backup support and shoot them a pm, they got back to me within a day when I had questions if you think it's related to that.
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I can do that, But what Im worried about is all the application data (including data for apps that require root) wont be deleted. Im not sure exactly what I would have to do to remove that as well. I wanted to leave it there, so that if I did manage to wipe it, Id know for sure everything was gone.
Ill also try sending them a message. Is it on that forum site they link to? Its not very clear as to how to contact them
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I can do that, But what Im worried about is all the application data (including data for apps that require root) wont be deleted. Im not sure exactly what I would have to do to remove that as well. I wanted to leave it there, so that if I did manage to wipe it, Id know for sure everything was gone.
Ill also try sending them a message. Is it on that forum site they link to? Its not very clear as to how to contact them
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http://forum.legendroid.com/titanium-backup-official-support/
I pm'd Shazd, I have the pro donated version so I had everything backed up, moved the folder for Titanium Backup and the folder for Titanium license to my exteral card. Then I flashed with Odin to stock and swapped my phone for a new one. Then I put the sd card in the new phone, connected to my computer and moved the files to the internal sd, installed Titanium from the market and when it installed my entire backup was there, settings, apps, and data were all there. I did a restore and everything was just as my old phone. Then I installed Unleash The Beast, the cool battery indicator, thanks to Designgears and the rest is history. When I flashed with Odin, all evidence of root were gone. AT&T didn't even check the phone, all I said was random shutdowns and a crack in the screen and they swapped it.
I have the paid donate version as well. I mean, I have the backup saved to my microsd and on my computer, Its just weird, I mean for some reason its not wiping. Im literally trying everything. I had a backup with clockwork mod and I re-rooted with 1 click root so that I could run that... It may be super rooter, Im starting to think thats more the case. But I really am just stumped
I flashed with Odin3 one click, maybe that's the difference. What did you use exactly?
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I flashed with Odin3 one click, maybe that's the difference. What did you use exactly?
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Both versions lol. 1-click and version 1.0 or whatever by flashing the stock firmware Jh6 from samsung-firmwares.com. I even tried a factory data reset
It may just be files in my internal SD card themselves that arent being deleted... but Im not really sure
It didn't wipe all of my info when I did master clear and then doing the one click wipe. I'm bit sure why it wouldn't either but it did remove most of what I wanted gone.
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Huh... Well I did a bunch of clear cache things, wiped my internal sd, and went throught my phone with root explorer and deleted whatever else I found. Wow that was a huge hassle
I think the best thing to do in the future is clear all user data through clockwork, then use odin for master clear then odin start to do it all. It is a hassle that's for sure.
The SD cards (internal and external) are not cleared with a full system wipe. When you delete all data through a system clear, it deletes everything stored internally to apps - in the phone memory where apps are installed.
Although the internal SD card is not really an SD card, the system treats it as an SD card. You can unmount both internal and external SD cards and then format them - that will wipe all data. Follow that with a system reset or Odin 1 click recovery and everything on your phone is factory new.
The phone is behaving as designed.
Hi - I'm new here - only just got my Galaxy S about 5 days ago (UK o2) and vowed not to mess with it until the official Froyo comes out.
Anyway....of course that didn't last long! I've learned about the different available ROMS - first I tried the lagfix - the new Voodoo one with the colour fix that looks interesting - actually seemed to make my JM1 more laggy if that's possible. So....
Now, I've flashed the latest JPK with odin and did a full wipe of as much as I could (cache, factory reset) from the recovery menu after and before. (I've come from the HTC Hero and sorely miss Amon-Ra's recovery features)
Now I'm having a few issues with this beta froyo build - especially when rebooting which takes an absolute age and a couple of times my icons haven't showed up!?
Wondering if I should have removed Voodoo lagfix before wiping and flashing the JPK??
Is there any way now that I'm on JPK to check if the Voodoo stuff is still there or any way of completely "re-setting" the device and removing all erroneous partitions etc that Voodoo might have set up?
My phone kinda works ok and I don't really want to go back to 2.1 because of the features in 2.2 but I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction getting my phone back to zero. Will I need to root? I can use adb if I have to...
Any help much appreciated.
Sorry, I as probably about 90% of people here just didnt bother to read. Why? Because you are IN THE WRONG FORUM
Flashing JPK will have blown away the custom voodoo kernel; factory reset will have wiped the ext4 partition that voodoo makes and rebuilt it with RFS (samsung's own file system).
Rebooting is rather sluggish on JPK; you can install the one-click-lag fix (oclf, available on market) though I've found it doesn't really need it for normal operation.
Be careful restoring app data via titanium, mybackup pro and the google built in backup (under privacy) between eclair and froyo - it can cause all sorts of oddities and force closes. Backing up the internal sd card, formatting it, and restoring only your own data files (rather than app caches) can also help.
Blowing away the internal sd card, and a factory reset, will get you back to zero. Then reinstall apps, resync with google etc, and go easy on bringing appdata back, and you should *hopefully* be fine.
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Flashing JPK will have blown away the custom voodoo kernel; factory reset will have wiped the ext4 partition that voodoo makes and rebuilt it with RFS (samsung's own file system).
Rebooting is rather sluggish on JPK; you can install the one-click-lag fix (oclf, available on market) though I've found it doesn't really need it for normal operation.
Be careful restoring app data via titanium, mybackup pro and the google built in backup (under privacy) between eclair and froyo - it can cause all sorts of oddities and force closes. Backing up the internal sd card, formatting it, and restoring only your own data files (rather than app caches) can also help.
Blowing away the internal sd card, and a factory reset, will get you back to zero. Then reinstall apps, resync with google etc, and go easy on bringing appdata back, and you should *hopefully* be fine.
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Thanks for the detailed reply - much appreciated and exactly what I needed to know
Just can't wait till the final Froyo ROM and a decent and fully reatured recovery from one of the genius and generous devs around these parts.
When I was using Foyo I always did a Master clear after returning to stock. I used Odin one click. I am now using Gingerbread. I want to know if I can do master clear with odin one click without going back to stock. Will this mess up the Gingerbread bootloaders?
I would like to know this also. If I flash from one GB rom to another and do not restore my TB I have a lot of "extra" stuff on my internal sd. I could delete this "extra" but i'm not sure what needs to be there.
Anything that needs to be there will be remade, you can delete every single folder on /sdcard and not **** anything up.
Also With xcal's new kernel in cwm, the wipe data/factory reset will wipe everything, just like a master clear.
Master clear wont delete anything but your apps and such, bootloaders are part of your root.
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Anything that needs to be there will be remade, you can delete every single folder on /sdcard and not **** anything up.
Also With xcal's new kernel in cwm, the wipe data/factory reset will wipe everything, just like a master clear.
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OK cool. Thanks for the info!
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Thanks for all the info.
I, personally, don't use Master Clear. I simply reformat the internal sd card. Same results, no computer or Odin needed(and it may be a little quicker than using Master Clear).
mrhaley30705 said:
I, personally, don't use Master Clear. I simply reformat the internal sd card. Same results, no computer or Odin needed(and it may be a little quicker than using Master Clear).
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Do you reformat the SD card in CWM? I am using the latest Corn Kernal in Fusion XI.
Hello,
I messed up my SGS after upgrading Darkyys. Its just very very slow, like opening Whatsapp takes 20 seconds. It has been this for about 1 month, even after updates it didn't got better. After some research I found a tip: Using chekdisk from Windows to run over the internal SD helped to gain some speed but its still not normal.
Now I want to format the internal SD as I guess it has some errors. Normal factory reset or reformat doesn't work. I read something about flashing some firmwares with all 3 files (?) and this twice, once with one pit (?) and than with a different(?). I'm not sure which files exactly are needed and if boxes like "repartition" needs to be checked.
Please help as I know that here a smart people around. Which files, which settings etc. Finally I would love some suggestions for a lean ROM with GPS and battery working/lasting better.
Thanks!
nobody`? I really want to fix this
When you flashed the Darkyy's ROM, did you do a clean install (wipe) or non-wipe?
Most likely if it's non-wipe, that could be the cause of the sluggishness.
Try using clockworkmod recovery to wipe dalvik, wipe cache, etc. Your first bootup after this will be very slow, but then it should work fine afterwards.
However, if you've done all this already, there might be other factors involved.
It's very difficult to point out a direct cause, there might be many, or just one.
Only reformat you internal SD, etc. as a last resort.
If that still doesn't work, try some other ROMs and see if the problem persists, then there might be an issue with your device.
I tried everything, of course with wipe.
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Only reformat you internal SD, etc. as a last resort.
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And how to? Odin? Re-partition?
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to format the internal sd card go to settings then storage and erase the sd card to format it...
to install a new rom:
first download any official rom that you want and its come with three files for pda,phone and csc
then use odin to flash it and dont forget to use the pit file for galaxy s 9000 and tick repartition...
after that go to darky site and follow the instructions to flash the last darky rom
Well, but on a running ROM you cant format the SD card. I need to format the system's internal card.