as ou see, the IM app seems to be very good. It has online intgration agenda and resource registration, but it seems that it only runs in verizon netowrk.
I did some research and it seems that this app trys to rise some HTTPS servers from google before to connect, however, these servers are unreachable from other network than verizon (i dont have verizon btw).
I was thinking at the beggining that problem was that google has recently changed their certificates, but after importing them into mobile, IM stil doesnt work.
Please help.
so are you making these assumptions based on urls you've trapped and if so, can you post them here?
Yes i like an integrated IM, stupid why it only works on VW network with us non VW/US early adopters.
I wonder what we can find in the deodexed impresence.apk and vzwim.apk files...
-smc
dlucio said:
as ou see, the IM app seems to be very good. It has online intgration agenda and resource registration, but it seems that it only runs in verizon netowrk.
I did some research and it seems that this app trys to rise some HTTPS servers from google before to connect, however, these servers are unreachable from other network than verizon (i dont have verizon btw).
I was thinking at the beggining that problem was that google has recently changed their certificates, but after importing them into mobile, IM stil doesnt work.
Please help.
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If you are referring to the HTTPS login attempts to the google login servers you may be misinterpreting GSF functionality vs Motorola IM.
I didnt get your answer. how ever, I paste my tcpdump capture. In this case i was trying to login into my AIM account, as you see (Im pretty sure there were not other apps trying to use internet cause i close all by hand usng task manager), for somereason application tries to reach a google server and after several IP tries it fails.
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There is an iPhone 3G app called VOiPover3G that tricks other iPhone apps into thinking that they are on Wi-Fi even though they are on 3G/EDGE/GPRS.
Is anything like this being looked at/developed for Android phones??
Please post questions about apps in the correct subforum. This will probably get locked...
This probably is the right subforum. Apps forum is for apps that have been compiled and released. This forum is for dev including apps dev.
Anyway, what would be the point in a program like that? What programs could benefit from it?
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This probably is the right subforum. Apps forum is for apps that have been compiled and released. This forum is for dev including apps dev.
Anyway, what would be the point in a program like that? What programs could benefit from it?
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It would allow programs like sipdroid (the market version) to think it was on wifi and when we finally get something like Fring for Android that would also be able to use the data package to make voip calls, even "real" skype calls.
It is in the wrong part of the forum, but I might as well answer it...
While the iPhone doesn't allow certain services over 3G (e.g. VoIP stuff), the current Android handsets + apps don't do such a thing.
e.g. Sipdroid works fine over edge/umts/wifi (as good as those networks can support VoIP).
It's really kind of a strange question to be honest. If there isn't a problem, don't ask questions about it
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This probably is the right subforum. Apps forum is for apps that have been compiled and released. This forum is for dev including apps dev.
Anyway, what would be the point in a program like that? What programs could benefit from it?
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Not to harp on the point made by Diceman4, but it really isn't the correct sub-forum. If you look at the Stickies in the Apps/Games sub-forum, you will see that one of them is regarding request/ideas for applications.
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I don't see any development going on in the first post though. This seems more like a post for the "ideas for apps" thread in app subforum. Although if the op came back with a chunk of code that needed debugging, that would be a different story.
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The main reason for asking was because of problems with Tmob in the UK blocking sipdroid (port 5060) and preventing it using 3G etc.
If we had an app like VOiPover3G it may very well allow us to bypass that problem, I don't know
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The main reason for asking was because of problems with Tmob in the UK blocking sipdroid (port 5060) and preventing it using 3G etc.
If we had an app like VOiPover3G it may very well allow us to bypass that problem, I don't know
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Why? a better bet would be to ask the sipdroid creator to include a user configurable port setting. The point of android is that the workarounds don't need to be workarounds on the phone, but rather workrounds for interfacing with the network.
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The main reason for asking was because of problems with Tmob in the UK blocking sipdroid (port 5060) and preventing it using 3G etc.
If we had an app like VOiPover3G it may very well allow us to bypass that problem, I don't know
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The technique described by the op routes traffic internally from the wifi interface to the cellular interface. That will have no effect on the protocol or port used. In other words, it will only be of use if the app is hardcoded to use wifi only and you want to work around that. If the cellular carrier is blocking the data, this method will not get around that.
As for sipdroid, you can manually configure the port used.
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The technique described by the op routes traffic internally from the wifi interface to the cellular interface. That will have no effect on the protocol or port used. In other words, it will only be of use if the app is hardcoded to use wifi only and you want to work around that. If the cellular carrier is blocking the data, this method will not get around that.
As for sipdroid, you can manually configure the port used.
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If you use pbxes there are a handful of different ports that will work but I haven't been able to get any to work. Saying that, up till recently I was using Gizmo5 but pbxes have blocked it's use after they (Gizmo5) allegedly stole/used sipdroid code and renamed it as if it was there own.
If any one has had success with sipdroid on 3g etc on t-mob UK please post the sip provider and the settings used.
Have you guys tried using the FULL version of sipdroid.. the one on the market didnt allow for 3g calls but this one does http://code.google.com/p/sipdroid/
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Have you guys tried using the FULL version of sipdroid.. the one on the market didnt allow for 3g calls but this one does http://code.google.com/p/sipdroid/
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Been there, done that, even got the T-shirt.
The problem is T-mob in the UK are a pain in the neck and are blocking the port 5060.
As someone has already mentioned in this thread, what is needed is a user configurable port so that T-mob UK can't block.
Let's hope sipdroid developers can do something along those lines.
I don't get it... have you tried all the alternative ports listed in pbxes website?
53, 69, 80, 135, 161, 443, 500, 1433, 1701, 1812, 3389, 4500, 5061, 5900, 16999, 26999 and
36999 (recommended)
Note:
Because of the DNS entries for pbxes.org your device may be selecting port 5060 automatically. If you want to use an alternative port enter 188.40.65.148 as SIP server.
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Both of them work as UDP or TCP.
TCP is recommended as it will help with battery life.
If none of these ports work, then It has to be that T-mobile has a Layer 7 filter in place looking for the SIP signaling traffic, and there should be no workaround possible unless you can wrap your sip traffic in a VPN. Nothing can be done to stop that, unless they filter the whole L2TP,PPTP,IPSEC or OpenVPN protocols.
I have tried most if not all of the ports specified and still no joy BUT I'll give it another go. What SIP provider do you use?
If T-mob are killing all SIP traffic how is it possible to use sipdriod over VPN?? Surely that is a major undertaking?
If it was done though, it would be the most robust and bulletproof VOIP app and would never be stopped Brilliant
I have just tried every single one of the alternative ports and every time I had a registration failure (timeout) so I guess T-mob are filtering for SIP traffic.
That leaves only the VPN route OR change providers OR change phones.
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I have just tried every single one of the alternative ports and every time I had a registration failure (timeout) so I guess T-mob are filtering for SIP traffic.
That leaves only the VPN route OR change providers OR change phones.
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Changing phones WILL NOT work since it isn't the phone that is causing the problem, it is the provider.
VPN should be fine, but you'll need a VPN server somewhere to connect through, i.e., your home computer.
There is nothing a carrier can do to block SIP over VPN. Everything is tunneled over the VPN connection so they can't know what goes in there.
As soon as we have a reliable VPN service (Donut seems to have PPTP or L2TP, although I'd love to see OpenVPN there) , you'll ve able to set-up your own voip and vpn server and pipe all the voice through it.
There is a couple of VoIP providers who can do that for you. One that comes to mind is callwithus.
On the connection issue with t-mobile, I suggest you try this:
If you have a DMZ linux/cygwin (altough a windows box might make it) host or a shell anywhere you can test if your provider is locking those ports, the pbxes ip or maybe even the SIP traffic.
Listen in a port using netcat:
netcat -n -l -vvvv 5060
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Type something... if you can see the text, they have a L7 filter in place.
If you can't see anything, they are blocking the port.
Now change the listening port to 36999 for instance.
Try to connect again. It should work.
Now in Sipdroid, add your hostname, give it any username, any password, use the 36999 port and select TCP connection and keep the netcat running on your listening host.
If you see a connection in your listening host and some signalling traffic, pbxes should work for you.
If you don't, then there's a really advance L7 filter between you and the internet and they can block anything they want to.
In this case, the only solution (and there's nothing they can do unless they also block it), is to use a VPN.
Thanks guys for all your suggestions. I'll try and go through all the procedures you've suggested stickman and I'll post the results
I have seen few apps that are capable of doing this over Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and USB. But I am more interested in something that can do it over 3G. At work my desktop PC is not on a wireless network; there is Wi-Fi but on a spate subnet with no easy access to the main network. I do have Bluetooth / USB on my main desktop but I work from different PCs therefore its not very convenient for me to pair/connect it each time I go to a different PC. And I don’t use Wi-Fi at home either.
Then there are other benifits to using 3G like I can still access the phone even if I forget it somewhere (i.e at home in the car etc). The new HTC Sense services for HTC Desire HD will have remote access to SMS, call and location information , which is exactly what I'm after. But for now SMS alone is enough.
I came across one App called SMS2PC which can connect to a computer over 3G. But from what I gathered, with that the phone connects to the PC and pushes notifications, not the other way around. This is not going to work for me because at work I am behind a corporate firewall, so my phone cannot access the desktop.
Any other solutions ??
EDIT : i know SMS backup can backup text messages to google, but I can't reply from there. So that wont help much. And I'm not in US, therefore I dont have access to Google Voice service, so replying through that is not going to work either.
Is Google Voice avilable to you (specifically, you will need a Google Voice phone number)? If so, that will be my recommendation. In addition to free SMS and visual voice mail, you can use your Google Voice anywhere that you have access to a web browser. It doesn't have to be your phone.
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Is Google Voice avilable to you (specifically, you will need a Google Voice phone number)? If so, that will be my recommendation. In addition to free SMS and visual voice mail, you can use your Google Voice anywhere that you have access to a web browser. It doesn't have to be your phone.
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No google voice is not available ( as mentioned in my last line , coz I knew some one would suggest that).
I wonder why no one has made such an app so far.
Maybe I'll have to write my own.. haven't done any android programing yet, guess its about the time.. waiting for a break from work to start playing around with it a bit...
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I have seen few apps that are capable of doing this over Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and USB. But I am more interested in something that can do it over 3G. At work my desktop PC is not on a wireless network; there is Wi-Fi but on a spate subnet with no easy access to the main network. I do have Bluetooth / USB on my main desktop but I work from different PCs therefore its not very convenient for me to pair/connect it each time I go to a different PC. And I don’t use Wi-Fi at home either.
Then there are other benifits to using 3G like I can still access the phone even if I forget it somewhere (i.e at home in the car etc). The new HTC Sense services for HTC Desire HD will have remote access to SMS, call and location information , which is exactly what I'm after. But for now SMS alone is enough.
I came across one App called SMS2PC which can connect to a computer over 3G. But from what I gathered, with that the phone connects to the PC and pushes notifications, not the other way around. This is not going to work for me because at work I am behind a corporate firewall, so my phone cannot access the desktop.
Any other solutions ??
EDIT : i know SMS backup can backup text messages to google, but I can't reply from there. So that wont help much. And I'm not in US, therefore I dont have access to Google Voice service, so replying through that is not going to work either.
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I use smstools. It is in every major repo. However - from your non-technical wording - I assume that you use the gamerz OS (Windos). Worry not, you can easily compile the program yourself, or google for binaries.
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I use smstools. It is in every major repo. However - from your non-technical wording - I assume that you use the gamerz OS (Windos). Worry not, you can easily compile the program yourself, or google for binaries.
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Yes, I use Windows mostly . Thanks for that link, but I don't think thats quite what I want either. That seems to use the phone as a modem to send and receive SMSs; which means I'll have to connect the phone to a PC locally (i.e USB, IR, BT etc..).
I'm looking for a solution that allows me to connect to the phone remotely over the internet (phone online on 3G) to access and send messages. A setup where there is a PC client which polls the phone periodically for new messages and a server running on the phone allowing the PC client to gain access to its messaging service. So I don't have to connect/disconnect every time when changing PCs, it will also allow me to connect even when the phone is not with me (left behind at home / car ).
Ah, I got it now!
Well, of course you could compile SMSTOOLS for your phone
Or take a look at RemoteSMS or similar apps!
Also possible to remote control your handset via vnc-server. That one has far more possibilities than remote SMS-ing...
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Ah, I got it now!
Well, of course you could compile SMSTOOLS for your phone
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I’m coming from Windows development side, so pardon me for my ignorance on Linux dev. But from the little I know, you can't compile Unix/C code to Android, am I wrong ? At least not in a straightforward manner... You can only develop apps using their customized Java (Dalvic) , right
Even if its possible, I think developing an app from ground up is far more easier than trying to integrate smstools in to android. Besides, that doesn't solve my problem at all, because accessing the phone from the PC is the issue, and I don't see how running smstools on the phone is going to solve that.
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Or take a look at RemoteSMS or similar apps!
Also possible to remote control your handset via vnc-server. That one has far more possibilities than remote SMS-ing...
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RemoteSMS only works over Wi-Fi and BT, no 3G support .
I guess remote desktop is one solution, but I prefer a much simpler app. Besides VNC will not send me any notifications, I have to manually check. ..
Looks like I'll have to write my own app for this . Havent done any android development yet, looks like this is going to be my first project..
Wifi Keyboard works on 3g (yes dumb but )
3G might be blocked by some carriers.
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So it's means it can be used over 3G
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IAnd I'm not in US, therefore I dont have access to Google Voice service, so replying through that is not going to work either.
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You don't need to be in the US to get a Google Voice account or use it for SMS. I am in Canada and use it for SMS all the time.
See this link. Note that despite the title this will work for any country.
http://www.wifitalk.ca/iphone/howto-google-voice-in-canada/
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You don't need to be in the US to get a Google Voice account or use it for SMS. I am in Canada and use it for SMS all the time.
See this link. Note that despite the title this will work for any country.
http://www.wifitalk.ca/iphone/howto-google-voice-in-canada/
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Thanks, I'll give it a try. Are SMSs free for international numbers as well ?
EDIT : I don't want to login through some unknown proxy server and give out my credentials. Besides, it is not a permanent solution. another dead end
Waiting for new ideas
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Wifi Keyboard works on 3g (yes dumb but )
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Waiting for new ideas
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Hum ..... Have you tried it ?
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I’m coming from Windows development side, so pardon me for my ignorance on Linux dev. But from the little I know, you can't compile Unix/C code to Android, am I wrong ? At least not in a straightforward manner... You can only develop apps using their customized Java (Dalvic) , right
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Linux is a kernel, and Android is a Linux kernel based operating system. You can compile anything (that compiles for GNU/Linux for the given architecture) for Android/Linux as well. It will be native code however (as opposed to DALVIK, which is VM code). You have the option to cross-compile on your PC, or to compile code right on your phone. It is a command line affair... not some nice one-click task.
BTW I did not see in their own advert, that RemoteSMS would be limited to wifi... you sure? (Would be pretty weird move from them, since communicating over wifi and 3G is not really different from the programmer's point of view)
Found this today , posted on XDA : talkmyphone.
Exacly what I was looking for .
YAY!
Thank you! I have been looking for something like this because I am also behind a corporate firewall at work.
Hi all.
Got my SGS a couple of weeks ago, and (almost) all is great.
I spend most of my time inside the university (I live on campus) and all of the web traffic here passes through a proxy server. Problem is - some of the apps (including the Market) just can't see the connection.
I have (of course) the right Advanced Network Settings (proxy server and port), and this sorts out some of the apps (like the default browser and gmail app), but the market is unreachable, and FB app (for example) can't access the net as well.
Some more data:
I'm running 2.1.
There is no problem to access these sites using a desktop/laptop computer.
I don't use 3G, relying only on WiFi.
Proxy server has no authentication.
Everything works perfectly whenever I leave campus.
Is there anything I can do?
Would this issue be resolved in the (hopefully) forthcoming 2.2 upgrade?
Thanks!
Hey do you have to log in to go online. At my past college and my current uni all android phones where you had to log in via the browser didn't work. However my friend with a Desire with 2.2 can log in, this maybe a wild guess but maybe the updated browser allows for the log in procedures to work, im not sure what its written in, javascript, php, asp no idea but that's my guess> Ive got the same problem if you get it to work let me know and if you know someone with froyo can you ask them to try or maybe its just with newer HTC phones.
Thanks for the reply.
I don't need to log in, there's no authentication, and still there's no access.
It feels like a dodgy implementation of the proxy settings in Android, and I really hope they fix it in 2.2, because it makes my phone really crippled.
Yer I really hope so to on our network their is no pass to access
its completely open but you have to log in via the browser
A quick update.
Just installed a localized (hebrew) version of Froyo (JHJP4 if it interests someone).
I can't comment on anything else at the moment, but the proxy problems are NOT solved. Still can't access the market...
Phone rooted, I swear I read something a bit back about ripping the encryption settings out of the phone so that I can connect to an exchange server without encryption/pin lock, but I cannot for the life of me google it back up. I like the stock email client and would prefer to continue using it, and the older email client I installed refuses to work with the exchange server. Aaaaand I like the little email widgets.
Can anyone point me in the right direction here towards what I need to do to set up my exchange account without it enforcing encryption/pinlock/camera disabling? It's my school's account, and there IT guy simply told me they aren't going to disable it on their side.
And besides free wifi tether, if there is anything else cool we can do once this phone is rooted, that'd be nice to know, too.
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And besides free wifi tether, if there is anything else cool we can do once this phone is rooted, that'd be nice to know, too.
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AdFree is pretty sweet...blocks most ads (won't block audio ads in Pandora, though)
Yeah, adfree is pretty awesome. Titanium sounds neat, too, but I'm a little skittish about freezing anything that's needed to run the phone, and so far it's impossible to slow this thing down anyhow, but it may be useful. I can't seem to find an overclocking app that's tailored to this phone, but my understanding is that motomizer works and the internals are basically the droid RAZR. Tinkerin' with that a bit.
I found one thing regarding the email client and it's lock downs, but it suggested installing an older email client which apparently doesn't have a widget, and a fix involving adding and removing the account and then removing security settings, but neither of these worked.
siiiiigh. It's my schools email, which is really frustrating. I don't understand why they'd have those securities in place at all.
The reason that schools have hardcore security in place is because the teachers and administrators use the came e-mail client... it has to be secured in order to protect sensitive info.
Ever since I have this phone, I have been unable to sign-in to open Wi-Fi services that require it (like in some fast-food chains for example).
Usually when you make use of seach a service you are directed to a sign-in page in your webbrowser, after which you enter some details and/or accept some conditions. However, whenever I am directed to such a page it will not load. I have tried this in multiple places, all resulting in the same error. The error tells me it couldn't connect to the server by the way, the same you get when you try to browse without having a connection. My default browser is FireFox, but I have also tried switching default to stock browser and chrome so the page would be opened there, and they garner the same result. Coincidentally I have been perfectly fine signing in on FireFox with a different device. I think this pretty much excludes the browser as the culprit, so it seems like a device problem. Possibly a setting somewhere?
In any case, if anyone has any ideas I'd love to hear them!
I had a similar issue, I realised that it was because I was using adguard DNS. Turned that off and it now works 100% of the time.
I'm having this problem with the WiFi at the gym. I don't have adguard either. Not sure what causes this. I'm also using Firefox, but I didn't have any problems with my HTC.
I usually find it's because most sites use https and the sign in pages are using http.
Try going to a site that still uses http, my site of choice, as it's easy to remember is:
http://neverssl.com
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I had a similar issue, I realised that it was because I was using adguard DNS. Turned that off and it now works 100% of the time.
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I did indeed have Blokada installed with adguard DNS enabled. But even uninstalling it didn't solve the issue for me. Thanks for the suggestion though!
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I usually find it's because most sites use https and the sign in pages are using http.
Try going to a site that still uses http, my site of choice, as it's easy to remember is:
http://neverssl.com
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Thanks for the suggestion! Just visisted a couple of http only sites, and they loaded just fine. So I suppose my issue is elsewhere.
Http://neverssl.com is useful for when you are trying to sign on to a wifi portal and need to go to a page that won't redirect to https and fail.
So I found a setting in the device settings for a DNS server. Switching it to 'automatic' allowed me to access the login site for the WiFi service, so yesterday I was able to use the connection. Unfortunately, after a device reboot, it failed to allow me to sign in again. Every time this happens, it tries to direct me to connectivitycheck.platform.hicloud.com and then fails to connect. Luckily due to my success earlier, I had the link to the sign-in page in my history and that allowed me to visit the sign-in page directly. Visiting neverssl did nothing for me in any of the cases, by the way. All in all I suppose it has something to do with the DNS settings of the device, even though changing them to the settings that worked for me before didn't do anything for me this time.