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[Q] Is my Galaxy S more laggy than everyone elses?

I've had a 16gb Samsung Galaxy S on Three in the UK since they launched last year, and it's the only Android phone I've used.
It's pretty laggy, but since I'd read a lot about Galaxy lag online, I assumed this was to be expected.
However, I had to help a colleague with a problem on their HTC Wildfire today (a lower spec phone, as far as I know), and was amazed how much more responsive than my Galaxy S.
It didn't seem to show any of the laggy, hanging-ey behaviour I experience. I have more apps installed than the Wildfire, but I'm quite careful not to install anything that's going to run at startup or cause problems (mostlly just games, no widgets, etc.)
As an example, if I turn the phone on clean, wait for everything to be loaded and ready (media scanning to finish, etc.) then poke the "Market" button, it takes 28 seconds for it to be loaded and responsive. Close that, poke the Facebook button, over 20 seconds until I'm shown the news feed. Sometimes when the phone rings on my desk, I literally won't be able to get it to respond enough to answer the call before the caller hangs up. If I try to switch from program to program, I end up getting quite a lot of frustrating 20-30s hangs and pauses. This is all on a decent wifi connection, so the problem isn't data related.
The question is - how laggy should a Galaxy S be? Would it work better if I added an SD card (with the 16gb phone memory, I didn't see the need)? Is it worth installing a lagfix under Froyo (I tried one back on 2.1, but didn't notice a huge amount of difference)?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

I think its sometimes very busy rebuilding it's wifi connection. Or some other process.
Am not sure.
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I didn't see any speed difference with SD card IN/OUT so i don't think you will have faster phone by inserting it (SD card).

Why don't you try a reset and see if that works? Also are you on eclair or froyo because that would make a world of difference if you upgraded

I just got my sgs from bell Canada last Tuesday. It has all stock with launcherpro and a few Widgets. So far (knock wood) its been a big step up over my HTC dream. I experience maybe 10 seconds of startup lag and then for the rest of the day its awesome. My firmware version is the newest one bell offers (jl2 Frito). What android version are you running?
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monkeyhat said:
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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That's exactly my experience. The only way to solve it is with a good lagfix and/or flashing JPY firmware
This will get almost instant loading of apps and only minor lags when switching apps. It's still slow when scrolling icons and such... my previous phone, iphoe 3g, is still faster than this crap-phone
Cheers,
Soulbrighter

My Galaxy S was laggy as hell brand new out of the box. Sometimes it would hang for what seemed like 10 seconds. I didn't like the Samsung launcher anyway, so I did my homework, made sure I could get into 3-button download mode, and then rooted, wiped and flashed a custom Froyo ROM. I've tried a few ROMs since then and have landed on Insanity with EXT4 lagfix.
Now my Galaxy S is _awesome_ ... I don't even bother overclocking it, everything is smooth.

try a task killer and set it up to auto kill when screens goes off done a few tests with it ,one with no killer and one with and the one with was faster and had no lag fix running too go to the market and get quadrant standard try it for yourself and see

What's the current firmware you're using ? I suggest flashing to JPY and testing it out.

Update to JPY!
If not possible, install a lagfix on your current ROM/kernel.
The amount of lag you describe is terrible, I have never seen it that bad...

I don't think the lag should be that bad, I did experience some occassional lag back on eclair, but never exceeded 5-10 seconds. Usually after loading whatever that app was once, it'd be okay on the next open too.
Since I've upgraded to JPY i see 1-2 second lag extremely rarely.
Maybe you can get a task manager and see if anything is hogging memory?

Thanks for all the responses. The firmware is FROYO.XXJPO, so I'll definitely try flashing to JPY and will report back! Thanks so much for the tip!

[Q] Odd force close behavior anyone?

I'm on a VZW tab and when apps force close, I get the 1 vibration followed by a succession of quick vibrations, then the popup notification of an app force closing.
However, twice now, my tab has had the vibrations as if an app is going to force close, but no window pops up. On top of that, the vibrations just repeat in that order over and over again approx every 30 sec. I've had to reboot each time to get this to stop. I've tried the built in task manager to kill all running apps, but only launcher pro is showing. I've tried using ATK to kill everything running also, but that doesn't help.
Has anyone ever had an issue remotely like this?

I have the 2 vibration isue but not the other.
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i also had the vibration force closing issue when i was on stock froyo.
but when i upgraded to overcome rom and also the gingerbread stock rom.
apps became more stable and has less forcecloses than before.
there was a significant improvement.
are you still on stock froyo?

Yes i recomend upgrading to 2.3.3
My tmobile tab used to do that on 2.2. A little less on 2.2.1
Havent seen it yet on 2.3.3
Ifyou dont want 2.3.3, and i wouldnt blame you, go the overcome route.
Don't Panic

peacekeeper05 said:
i also had the vibration force closing issue when i was on stock froyo.
but when i upgraded to overcome rom and also the gingerbread stock rom.
apps became more stable and has less forcecloses than before.
there was a significant improvement.
are you still on stock froyo?
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I am rooted, but still on stock froyo.
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Yes i recomend upgrading to 2.3.3
My tmobile tab used to do that on 2.2. A little less on 2.2.1
Havent seen it yet on 2.3.3
Ifyou dont want 2.3.3, and i wouldnt blame you, go the overcome route.
Don't Panic
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I'll have to see what the best GB rom is for the VZW tab. Then netflix would likely work also!
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my tab did the same thing today twice in a row. this is the first time it has done it i rebooted then hasent done it again

Solved!!!
So this issue has been getting progressively worse, so I went through app by app in the application and service menu and started force stopping them one by one. Turns out it was lookout mobile's background service causing this. The service, not the app, kept force closing and restarting, hence the force close vibrations, but no popup.
I uninstalled and reinstalled it clean and will continue to monitor. So far the issue has not returned.
update: after a reboot, the issue came back, so i just uninstalled completely. After a reboot, no issue.

[Q][i9000] Custom Firmware?

I have the 16GB Vodafone UK Galaxy S. Today I was in a city trying to use satnav and it was rank rotten. So I thought I'd see if an upgrade would do it. I was using the very first Froyo that Vodafone came out with - I upgraded to that and hadn't upgraded since. I did have it rooted and 1 click lag fix was on it.
I upgraded to Gingerbread just there, sadly I had to do a factory reset, however it's all working.
I have realised that if I am going to put a custom firmware on it then now is just the right time to do it.
Is there one out there that's stable, and an improvement over the Gingerbread I'm using? Particularly I'd like it to fix the lag (if that still needs fixed) and even better would be fixing GPS/Satnav.

Pinpong blockbuster rom - ticks all your boxes. Get faster fix from market.
Your gps will never be 100% satisfactory in the city, in fact it will probably always be poor - no matter what custom rom you use.

Halkus said:
I have the 16GB Vodafone UK Galaxy S. Today I was in a city trying to use satnav and it was rank rotten. So I thought I'd see if an upgrade would do it. I was using the very first Froyo that Vodafone came out with - I upgraded to that and hadn't upgraded since. I did have it rooted and 1 click lag fix was on it.
I upgraded to Gingerbread just there, sadly I had to do a factory reset, however it's all working.
I have realised that if I am going to put a custom firmware on it then now is just the right time to do it.
Is there one out there that's stable, and an improvement over the Gingerbread I'm using? Particularly I'd like it to fix the lag (if that still needs fixed) and even better would be fixing GPS/Satnav.
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Have you think about CM7? Great Rom, works well on my phone, and add many new things.

Hi Mate, I tried many custom roms and finally settled for
(ROM)GingerCriskeloV77-9LS-CamHack- SIP + NoIncRing I9000/T/M JVP 2.3.4
Cheers

Well, I managed to get it on. Booting up is weird though, it looks for a long time as if the screen is broken, but eventually ti comes on to the Blockbuster lock screen and then everything is fine. It does seem faster - but I'll only really know when I get to one of those situations where I feel the phone is frustratingly slow.
Thanks very much Woolf!
Time allowing I'll give the other roms a shot, although this Blockbuster one does seem to be good enough for me.

Sadly my phone now reboots constantly. it seems to do it when the screen locks

Halkus said:
Sadly my phone now reboots constantly. it seems to do it when the screen locks
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Check you got the installation right for that rom, maybe you had to flash a jvp stock first or some similar omission?
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Sorry to hear you're having issues. Try flashing to a totally stock JVQ first (with repartition) once you've backed up, then if you don't like that, try a custom ROM. I don't think many JVQ custom ROMs are worth trying if you want a taste of custom ROMs. Better to try CM7 or MIUI for something fast and different.
As a side note, the best tip I've seen for fixing the dreadful GPS we have with the i9000 is to buy a Nexus S or just ANY other phone! Yes, some radios appear better than others, but nobody can prove anything and it's almost all subjective feedback. A drop in the ocean of improvement needed for satisfactory function. If you must use it, a bluetooth GPS receiver and 3rd party navigation app seem the best way to deal with it.

I've now stepped away from Blockbuster. Even doing the a perfect install it crashed often and repeatedly. I did try upgrading to the very latest and that crashed several times in the past hour. Part of the problem was the rom starts with a lockscreen that has a messaging unlock on it, but it isn't set to an app that comes with the rom, so it reboots every time. Sadly that wasn't the only problem, as I was still getting loads of reboots.
So that's out of the way.
I'm now a lot more comfortable using Odin so I'll be able to try other options. I'll try the other two suggested in this thread first of all.
Next to test is CM7.
Thanks for the help folks!
CM7 aborted. Instructions are incorrect, the file they say to download doesn't actually match the instructions so that's out. Plus it clearly states it's not suitable for day to day use... so I don't thnk the time in working out how to fix it is justified since it looks like it wouldn't be useful.
I'm going back to the original question in the thread, to say that I'm looking for something stable. I now think that a custom rom is not the way to go. However some modifications may well be.
Can anyone suggest some kind of lagfix/speedup that isn't a complete overhaul like CM7, Blockbuster etc, that is very stable and that'll make my phone faster?
Edit : Part of what I was doing to install Blockbuster was install Speedmod kernel. So I've gone and put that on, and used the clockwork mod to root it, and also convert to ext4. I think things are looking pretty fast so far. I'm not sure if there's a lagfix for this, but I'm quite comfortable just now footering around - unlike the complete rom I don't feel out of my depth. So I think I'll be ok for now.

Weird "soft restart" / force close???

I am using JVQ Sensation Rom with the JVQ semaphore kernel atm.
I sometimes get some weird "soft restart" / force closes.. no idea how to better name this issue.. let me describe:
The Phone screen turns black, phone vibrates one time shortly, then it comes back to life - media scanner is running, my connection bars show a "stop sign" like they do before or when you don't enter your pin at start.. but shortly afterwards the normal connection bars are shown and I do not have to enter my pin.
If I listen to MP3 or had some other app open at the time of these "soft reboots" they are no longer open and the mp3 playback stops when this reboot occurs.
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Does anyone have a clue what this could be? I dumped logcat into a file and looked through it myself, but couldn't really find anything on my own.
I cannot really reproduce this error, but it usually happens when I do had a few apps running or had recently used the phone it seems.
I am thinking maybe it could be the garbage collector / memory free thingy that then kills the launcher or something - could that be it?
Or is this known problem or smth? I don't really know what to search for in the search function - I'm sure anyone had this before, but no idea how to find a thread about this error.

Bump this. I was on a vibrant rom (revolution) I have a captivate. I used darkcore kernel and jk4 modem. Worked fine for a while...but did that a couple times a day while I was listening to Pandora on my bt headset.
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It's a problem, started from 2.3.3
This problem,affecting all 2.3.3 releases!!
There is also a thread in Q & A section but not many people paid attention to it.
Every 'now and then' phone slows down for moments, till the point that, it reboots itself or give force close or freezes so you have to turn it off.After reboot, it good to go again for ~3-4 days and then again same thing happens.
I read in some threads that darky rom also has this problem but I don't think its darky rom problem but stock Gingerbread itself has something wrong.
If it does not reboot and you don't power it off then you have to wait ~1-2 minutes before its comes back respond.
1. SD card formatting, already ruled out in thread in Q & A. I formatted the card but it simply happens again.
2. Less RAM can also be ruled out as I tried to open as many apps possible without closing them but Gingerbread was doing memory management very well and no freezes.
Expert please give your opinion, how can we get it fixed.

[Q] process bug in kitkat roms!

hay all i searched the forum and the net to find if anyone is having the same issue but didnt find anyway,
i've tried several kitkat roms with several versions they are all great roms but for me i had experienced a common bug between them ,sometimes the phone gets heat up and the battery drains very fast i open the cpu monitor and find that there is a process ( not a specific one ) using 50% of the cpu till the battery die , it doesnt get killed when i kill it the only solution is by restarting the phone
it happens randomly not always sometimes daily sometimes every 2 or more days sometimes several times a day.
i use xposed with all the roms i tried .
dont know if it is familiar with anyone here but i hope someone could help Thanx

no one here to help ?
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Maybe no one else has this problem. Maybe it is a strange effect due to settings of an old installation. Try a fresh install, wipe all data.

thanx for replying .. yes i tried i installed official TW gb then official TW jb then again flashed custom kitkat same issue no luck
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ttm1st said:
thanx for replying .. yes i tried i installed official TW gb then official TW jb then again flashed custom kitkat same issue no luck
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The VERY common n MOST probable cause of battery drain in all current KK roms is: GOOGLE +
Delete or deactivate it (preferably just delete it) and try again.
The 2nd Most probable would be media scanner, go to advanced setting and then turn media scan off.

ttm1st said:
hay all i searched the forum and the net to find if anyone is having the same issue but didnt find anyway,
i've tried several kitkat roms with several versions they are all great roms but for me i had experienced a common bug between them ,sometimes the phone gets heat up and the battery drains very fast i open the cpu monitor and find that there is a process ( not a specific one ) using 50% of the cpu till the battery die , it doesnt get killed when i kill it the only solution is by restarting the phone
it happens randomly not always sometimes daily sometimes every 2 or more days sometimes several times a day.
i use xposed with all the roms i tried .
dont know if it is familiar with anyone here but i hope someone could help Thanx
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Yes I experienced the same with KitKat CM11. Mine was plain CM, no Google Apps so no Google+. I have also tried the last "stable" CM (10.1.3 I think) and that also converted my Note into a hand warmer. Like you I had to power down, I couldn't kill the problem processes and it wasn't always the same process.
The problems with the Exynos based devices is documented on xda at great length. Unfortunately some people gloss over or fail to mention this when promoting various ROMs. The CM devs quit supporting these devices because it's not possible to do it as well as they would like (thanks to Samsung being indifferent or unsupportive, not any failure or unwillingness by the CM and community devs). You aren't going to get a ROM that works as well as stock. You can get ROMs that do some stuff better or have a newer version of this or that or have some very attractive UI but there are major issues such as overheating, less good video and audio codec support on the device DSP (try some HD movies with ac3 or dts audio and you will know!) and the external SD card spontaneously unmounting (possibly this is causing the runaway processes as well as the more obvious sudden stops in file transfers and music playback when using the extra card).
Omnirom is the only GT-N7000 ROM I tried that didn't overheat or have runaway processes and kill the battery life and it also has a very professional feel. I also noticed that scrolling and page rendering in Firefox was much better in Omnirom, almost as good as stock Samsung. However I ran into some other issues (some mentioned above) so I have switched back to Samsung's 4.1.2. I don't need Kitkat but if I did I would probably choose Omnirom, but actually the stock Samsung firmware has been smoothest and has by far the best battery life in my experience - just use the built-in "Power saving mode", job done. The ability to disable apps in the stock firmware is perfectly good enough to disable any of the so-called bloatware or even all the Google services and apps. If you like to disable so much stuff that your Note breaks then root it and install something like Performance Control and you can freeze anything you like and make yourself a nice boot loop
If you just want a bit more control over your device you can root it without flashing any ROM or custom kernel by using method 1B* as described at forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360 There is no need to flash a "safe" kernel, that advice is for older android versions and is totally redundant for 4.1.2.
*short version:
Reboot into recovery, install Root_SuperSu 0.95
Boot. Run Supersu, update it.
Reboot into recovery, install Root_busybox *.zip
All done.
It's rock solid stable, has great battery life, supports all audio and video codecs, doesn't get hot, runs smooth, lets you be in control.

thanx for giving ur time ... to be honest i installed TW 4.1.2 before at first it ran smooth but after a while it starts to get laggy alot even with root and with bloatware removed and so .but in kitkat roms its alot smoother the only problem is theon i mentioned i will try as u guys said ill disable google+ and see if it helps . thanx for u all again
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@julian67
Hei julian, 1st of all thank you for providing useful and educating informations. Typing them sure took much of your time n it's greatly appreciated. But if I may add a bit of opinion, those problems mentioned mostly come with the newer version of KK like 4.4.3 n 4.4.4's. In 4.4.2, those problems mentioned rarely happened unless of course u have google + enabled. The most irritating bug is just how music player stopped suddenly after playing for sometime (times variable to each person's device) n only rebooting can solve it. Lots of advices states that formatting to ex-fat could solve the problem (unproven by me, haven't tried it). With regards of HD movies I also haven't tried as I only watch 480 p movies in my phone, save more memory storage means more movies to watch. A good example other than omnirom as u stated would be C-Rom 4.4.2 vers. I use it for almost 3 months n music player bug is the only thing that crazes me. Anyway thanks again.
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