I've had a 16gb Samsung Galaxy S on Three in the UK since they launched last year, and it's the only Android phone I've used.
It's pretty laggy, but since I'd read a lot about Galaxy lag online, I assumed this was to be expected.
However, I had to help a colleague with a problem on their HTC Wildfire today (a lower spec phone, as far as I know), and was amazed how much more responsive than my Galaxy S.
It didn't seem to show any of the laggy, hanging-ey behaviour I experience. I have more apps installed than the Wildfire, but I'm quite careful not to install anything that's going to run at startup or cause problems (mostlly just games, no widgets, etc.)
As an example, if I turn the phone on clean, wait for everything to be loaded and ready (media scanning to finish, etc.) then poke the "Market" button, it takes 28 seconds for it to be loaded and responsive. Close that, poke the Facebook button, over 20 seconds until I'm shown the news feed. Sometimes when the phone rings on my desk, I literally won't be able to get it to respond enough to answer the call before the caller hangs up. If I try to switch from program to program, I end up getting quite a lot of frustrating 20-30s hangs and pauses. This is all on a decent wifi connection, so the problem isn't data related.
The question is - how laggy should a Galaxy S be? Would it work better if I added an SD card (with the 16gb phone memory, I didn't see the need)? Is it worth installing a lagfix under Froyo (I tried one back on 2.1, but didn't notice a huge amount of difference)?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I think its sometimes very busy rebuilding it's wifi connection. Or some other process.
Am not sure.
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I didn't see any speed difference with SD card IN/OUT so i don't think you will have faster phone by inserting it (SD card).
Why don't you try a reset and see if that works? Also are you on eclair or froyo because that would make a world of difference if you upgraded
I just got my sgs from bell Canada last Tuesday. It has all stock with launcherpro and a few Widgets. So far (knock wood) its been a big step up over my HTC dream. I experience maybe 10 seconds of startup lag and then for the rest of the day its awesome. My firmware version is the newest one bell offers (jl2 Frito). What android version are you running?
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That's exactly my experience. The only way to solve it is with a good lagfix and/or flashing JPY firmware
This will get almost instant loading of apps and only minor lags when switching apps. It's still slow when scrolling icons and such... my previous phone, iphoe 3g, is still faster than this crap-phone
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Soulbrighter
My Galaxy S was laggy as hell brand new out of the box. Sometimes it would hang for what seemed like 10 seconds. I didn't like the Samsung launcher anyway, so I did my homework, made sure I could get into 3-button download mode, and then rooted, wiped and flashed a custom Froyo ROM. I've tried a few ROMs since then and have landed on Insanity with EXT4 lagfix.
Now my Galaxy S is _awesome_ ... I don't even bother overclocking it, everything is smooth.
try a task killer and set it up to auto kill when screens goes off done a few tests with it ,one with no killer and one with and the one with was faster and had no lag fix running too go to the market and get quadrant standard try it for yourself and see
What's the current firmware you're using ? I suggest flashing to JPY and testing it out.
Update to JPY!
If not possible, install a lagfix on your current ROM/kernel.
The amount of lag you describe is terrible, I have never seen it that bad...
I don't think the lag should be that bad, I did experience some occassional lag back on eclair, but never exceeded 5-10 seconds. Usually after loading whatever that app was once, it'd be okay on the next open too.
Since I've upgraded to JPY i see 1-2 second lag extremely rarely.
Maybe you can get a task manager and see if anything is hogging memory?
Thanks for all the responses. The firmware is FROYO.XXJPO, so I'll definitely try flashing to JPY and will report back! Thanks so much for the tip!
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I'm having some issues with my G1 with 3G and data connectivity in general. I'm not posting to ask for help on fixing that, although I won't object to help, I'm posting to ask for two ROMs for both Eclair and FroYo. I need to discount CyanogenMod since those are the main ones I run and it happens in both to a degree and my troubleshooting will be better if I know it isn't a ROM specific issue.
I'm aware that there are known issues (with no fix) that others have with both Eclair and FroYo releases of CM right now but it seems different and I want to be sure that it isn't my phone. The reason I'm posting to ask for recommendations is that I'm sure a lot of people are aware there are a lot of ROMs floating around that are little besides blatant rips of other people's work. I want to avoid that since it won't help at all and if it is a rip of someone elses work it will give the same results.
i tried like 6 or 7 Froyo releases the last month
for me the best 2 are:
Froyo Redux (CM 6)
SpeedTeam Froyo
in Speedteam: i got a problem with the market. downloading stopped working after a day of use with it. besides that, its really nice and fast!
biffmod it had FC's every 10 seconds with the "ime_input" blabla, fu**ed me off, so i deinstalled. couldn't really test it.
froyo redux: it begins lagging after a while of use, but i used it the most until now! like for a week or so! it reacts fast when getting a call, looks nice (install launcherpro for more speed in launcher/homescreen) menu's go really fast and it loads really fast too! For me the best Froyo by now!
chromatic : the style was to dark
SuperFast/stupid Fast: after install i had many FC's -> Deinstalled
Super-F : works fine the most but has problems with some files and cant play mp3 files !! WTF ??
Hope i could help u a little
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I'm having some issues with my G1 with 3G and data connectivity in general. I'm not posting to ask for help on fixing that, although I won't object to help, I'm posting to ask for two ROMs for both Eclair and FroYo. I need to discount CyanogenMod since those are the main ones I run and it happens in both to a degree and my troubleshooting will be better if I know it isn't a ROM specific issue.
I'm aware that there are known issues (with no fix) that others have with both Eclair and FroYo releases of CM right now but it seems different and I want to be sure that it isn't my phone. The reason I'm posting to ask for recommendations is that I'm sure a lot of people are aware there are a lot of ROMs floating around that are little besides blatant rips of other people's work. I want to avoid that since it won't help at all and if it is a rip of someone elses work it will give the same results.
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Try: Htcclay Superfly d/s v1.1 - Froyo 2.2
http://androidspin.com/2010/08/07/rom-htcclay-superfly-tcby-v1-1-for-dream-g1/
Absolutely love this one. Market slow on this one but that seems to be on all of the 2.2's.
Thanks for the replies I've given Chromatic a try while I waited for replies and it seems to be the most reliable for 3G that I'd tried to that point. I switched out to Cannon's Eclair as well and that seemed to be good too. Chromatic seemed a little sluggish but no more than other FroYo ROMs. The main sluggish thing that I can't stand is text entry using the virtual keyboard. That seems to be a constant across all FroYo ROMs so far.
tranceonline, you saved me a lot of flashing with that summary so yes you did help I'm going to have a look at FroYo Redux in a little while.
crz6662, testing out the one you recommended now and it seems about the same as most FroYo ROMs, do you notice any stuttering when using the virtual keyboard? It seems to be a bit on / off like it will work for the first letter or two, freeze while you're pressing keys and then a second later you'll see all the keys appear. I can't stand it >_< I don't know if it's the ROMs, the keyboard IME or a combination of both.
crz6662, testing out the one you recommended now and it seems about the same as most FroYo ROMs, do you notice any stuttering when using the virtual keyboard? It seems to be a bit on / off like it will work for the first letter or two, freeze while you're pressing keys and then a second later you'll see all the keys appear. I can't stand it >_< I don't know if it's the ROMs, the keyboard IME or a combination of both.[/QUOTE]
Can't say I've noticed but I usually use the keyboard anyway since it's a bit faster for me. You could download couple of the other on screen keyboards out there and see if it's the same.Try this one: attached Handcent. If it works on Froyo. Noticed a screen flicker on CM 6.0.0 though. Might just be my phone.?
I've learned a couple of things today, playing again.
Main reason I rooted/flashed was for apps2sd. Don't put upfront tasks, ie: Homescreen launchers, on-going service apps, mail, messaging, etc. on the SD, leave them on internal memory.
I was putting everything on the SD and it took forever to reload home screen coming out of an app and returning home. Don't ask about rebooting. It took forever to load the widgets and get up and running. Got to thinking about the slower speed of the SD versus the phone. So after installing approx 150 apps I said screw it, wiped everything, and reformatted the card.
Dropped swap to 32MB, ext2 512, & fat32.
Now I'm being careful what gets put to the card. Homescreen now boots and loads much better from the phone. Was reading about partitioning and in some cases larger swap slows up the phone considerably so they say. Why the 1 ROM I did suggested 96MB for swap is beyond me. Just don't run a "bunch" of apps at the same time and you won't need much swap. Some have suggested eliminating it altogether. Don't know bout that.
Much snappier performance now. Boots up fast and 3G is no problem.
Might hold off loading apps and try that Froyo Redux 1st. Haven't seen that one.
Later. Learn by doing
I've been reading all over these forums about a lagfix that is available, but I can't figure out why I need it. My Captivate seems incredibly fast in everything it does, including reading files off of very slow cards. Is there a way I can see this supposed lag manifest itself?
Run a crapload of apps on the phone. and then see if it comes up. You can even try to install more than 50 apps and see if it comes up. Not sure why you would wanna do this though
Tried that. I started up 22 different apps, one of which was Google Earth, then opened up a HD video to play. Not so much as a hiccup. And I only have a class 2 SD card.
I guess I should be glad that I have no discernible lag to fix.
There are a couple situations I have seen like adding things to the home screen and wakeup lag. Other than that the problem sneaks up during quadrant benchmarks causing the phone to hang really bad. The lag fix works but isn't gonna make it faster in every day situations other than the one or two places it acts up.
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Ohh I got it! Try to install more than 5 small apps at a time from the market. It always just hangs while they get installed
Sent from my phone so excuse the spelling errors
i barely noticed it too.. but I installed lagfix anyway lol .. as you keep using your phone more.. after you use the fix.. and revert back.. you somewhat notice differences in speed.. maybe it's just all in my head though
Has the time come to finally scrap all the lagfixes with the release of JPA/JPO?
Please, no Quadrant or similar synthetic arguments against. The "real-feel" of the phone is the only relevant benchmark.
So, in your experience in the operation of the new firmwares, comparing them in a native vs. lagfixed state, is it time to dispense with the lagfixes?
Don't think so....
But JPO is speedy when fresh.
Lag is still there, less noticable, but there, you can feel it especially during parallel download and installing apps or when you have a running background updating/sync process.
Voodoo is mature enough anyway, infact, I kinda do miss Voodoo's brightness and color fix on 2.2.
I'm on Jpa,don't feel the NEEd for lagfix...i gets' hung for a while on installation and other small slowdowns,but it's really good overall (noticeably better than cooked jpm/jp6,at least)
Nope, no reason to dump them yet...
Media scanning still takes a while in stock, while with a lagfix it's about 2 seconds. So the phone is in a fully usable state much sooner after booting or when adding/deleting media on the phone.
I also used DolphonHD browser as a test.
On a fresh boot on stock firmware, it takes about 6 seconds to start up.
With a lagfix (I used Advanced EXT4 with one of those custom kernels) it starts up within 2 seconds on fresh boot.
Samsung needs to dump this RFS crap, it's a horrible joke.
There is definitely still lag and random pauses in JPO, no question about that. Although it may be a slight improvement over previous Froyo betas, you still need an EXT4 lag-fix to eliminate the lag and pauses that exist in stock JPO.
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Has the time come to finally scrap all the lagfixes with the release of JPA/JPO?
Please, no Quadrant or similar synthetic arguments against. The "real-feel" of the phone is the only relevant benchmark.
So, in your experience in the operation of the new firmwares, comparing them in a native vs. lagfixed state, is it time to dispense with the lagfixes?
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No - user experience (especially with RSS reader) is still much better with OCLF (10 times faster).
Maybe, if I didn't use RSS reader which requires fast IO I'd live without OCLF...
Oops! I voted no, but wanted to vote yes!
I use JPO and I experienced lag without apps installed.. So clean it lagged. I didn't clear the sdcard before the lag (I think it's useless), but I did reset to factory defaults.
Just like all the Eclair releases, Froyo certainly seems to be getting better with every "release". As already mentioned a few posts earlier, JPA certainly zooms when fresh.
That said, it really is too soon to get rid of lagfixes. When Froyo matures to the level of, say JM9, then would be an appropriate time for such a thought. Till then, hello Voodoo....
The best test of lag would be NewsRob imo. Can someone with a non lagfixed JPO test it out? I can already confirm it flies on JPO + Voodoo.
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I dont have any real lagging issues on my phone but I can see that moving around the inbox is definitly faster with a lagfix, the rest of the phone operations are pretty smooth woth Doc's JPO and the modded kernel.
Compared to ther lesser speced phone the SGS is pretty slow so yes it does need a lag fix at certain functions
ok so hello every one who has IS
i have it for 3 weeks and i notice that a lot of the times its slow and has a lot of laggs, this happens when i open apps list and scroll it laggs for a split second and the more i use it i find it in more places.
now is it just my phone or every one notices its not as smooth as you'd expect?
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more laggs when Live Wallpaper is on...and i thought 1GH processor should handle it
IS suppose to be INCREDIBLE, whats going on ?
Have you updated to 2.3?
I wolud do a "factory reset", and if that makes it as fast as it should bee, i would then start to install your extra apps.
i get what you are saying, but just as a phone, its not smooth
and live wallpaper takes all CPU and makes it even more slow.
is it just my phone that doesnt "FLOW" andd smooth?
I have lots of apps installed and is running LiveWallpaper, and i have no lag at all.
sent you a PM
anyone else has laggs ?
what can i do ?
last week i got OTA in swiss, after updates i got too much lagging problem as well. Many time i have done hard reset but it works same, now I am going to sell my phone. its a bull**** update.
I had one for a week, sometis it was laggy too. Do you have advanced task killer? Close some apps, clean your ram.
See if that helps to begin with?
Initially mine was also laggy, but i updated to gingerbread nad the phone became fast. Not as smooth as iphone but was a lot better then before.
After a lot of testing I can say that the main reason at most of the lagy phones are apps installed at the sd card....Check which apps are causing the problem and put them at the phone's memory.I hope that this helps!
Then whats the point of having a SD card if installing apps on it makes the phone laggy
It is not a matter of the phone but the class of the sd card.In order to be as quick as possible you sould use a ''fast'' class sd...
It saves space. But you need to get an SD card with a decent Class. My MicroSD card is 32Gb Class 10 and I'm not getting any lag on my phone I also use Advanced Task Killer.
Your best bet would be a task killer.
I would suggest ATK (advanced task killer) or battery doctor.
there are definitely a lot of talk on how the newer android versions do not need a task killer, but your situation may be one of those and am certain it will help.
If you already do not have the gingerbread update, i believe that would solve your problem initially, but if you bloat your phone with apps and do not exit out of apps but just press the home key, you will defy need a task killer.
try it
Do you use the HTC Messages widget? The one which lists all your messages rather than just shows the last one?
Since the update to gingerbread I noticed mine lagging when swiping screens. This widget now seems to update the contact photo's etc every time I unlock the screen now which causes lagging until you wait on that screen for it to finish updating.
I've switched to the other messaging widget and seems fine now.
updating folloing you recomendations
OK so i did the 2.3 update
have task killer and everything else...
am i going crazy or the iphone 4 is flawless no laggs, but the IS does still have
laggs ? it happens somethimes not all the times - it seems that
the phone, just by being a IS phone has lags, small, tiny but laggs sometimes.
when you open contacts info, when you scroll apps list, when live WP is on
and many more.
am i right?
any help to the problem or its just that the phone is like that?
I have the 16GB Vodafone UK Galaxy S. Today I was in a city trying to use satnav and it was rank rotten. So I thought I'd see if an upgrade would do it. I was using the very first Froyo that Vodafone came out with - I upgraded to that and hadn't upgraded since. I did have it rooted and 1 click lag fix was on it.
I upgraded to Gingerbread just there, sadly I had to do a factory reset, however it's all working.
I have realised that if I am going to put a custom firmware on it then now is just the right time to do it.
Is there one out there that's stable, and an improvement over the Gingerbread I'm using? Particularly I'd like it to fix the lag (if that still needs fixed) and even better would be fixing GPS/Satnav.
Pinpong blockbuster rom - ticks all your boxes. Get faster fix from market.
Your gps will never be 100% satisfactory in the city, in fact it will probably always be poor - no matter what custom rom you use.
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I have the 16GB Vodafone UK Galaxy S. Today I was in a city trying to use satnav and it was rank rotten. So I thought I'd see if an upgrade would do it. I was using the very first Froyo that Vodafone came out with - I upgraded to that and hadn't upgraded since. I did have it rooted and 1 click lag fix was on it.
I upgraded to Gingerbread just there, sadly I had to do a factory reset, however it's all working.
I have realised that if I am going to put a custom firmware on it then now is just the right time to do it.
Is there one out there that's stable, and an improvement over the Gingerbread I'm using? Particularly I'd like it to fix the lag (if that still needs fixed) and even better would be fixing GPS/Satnav.
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Have you think about CM7? Great Rom, works well on my phone, and add many new things.
Hi Mate, I tried many custom roms and finally settled for
(ROM)GingerCriskeloV77-9LS-CamHack- SIP + NoIncRing I9000/T/M JVP 2.3.4
Cheers
Well, I managed to get it on. Booting up is weird though, it looks for a long time as if the screen is broken, but eventually ti comes on to the Blockbuster lock screen and then everything is fine. It does seem faster - but I'll only really know when I get to one of those situations where I feel the phone is frustratingly slow.
Thanks very much Woolf!
Time allowing I'll give the other roms a shot, although this Blockbuster one does seem to be good enough for me.
Sadly my phone now reboots constantly. it seems to do it when the screen locks
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Sadly my phone now reboots constantly. it seems to do it when the screen locks
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Check you got the installation right for that rom, maybe you had to flash a jvp stock first or some similar omission?
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Sorry to hear you're having issues. Try flashing to a totally stock JVQ first (with repartition) once you've backed up, then if you don't like that, try a custom ROM. I don't think many JVQ custom ROMs are worth trying if you want a taste of custom ROMs. Better to try CM7 or MIUI for something fast and different.
As a side note, the best tip I've seen for fixing the dreadful GPS we have with the i9000 is to buy a Nexus S or just ANY other phone! Yes, some radios appear better than others, but nobody can prove anything and it's almost all subjective feedback. A drop in the ocean of improvement needed for satisfactory function. If you must use it, a bluetooth GPS receiver and 3rd party navigation app seem the best way to deal with it.
I've now stepped away from Blockbuster. Even doing the a perfect install it crashed often and repeatedly. I did try upgrading to the very latest and that crashed several times in the past hour. Part of the problem was the rom starts with a lockscreen that has a messaging unlock on it, but it isn't set to an app that comes with the rom, so it reboots every time. Sadly that wasn't the only problem, as I was still getting loads of reboots.
So that's out of the way.
I'm now a lot more comfortable using Odin so I'll be able to try other options. I'll try the other two suggested in this thread first of all.
Next to test is CM7.
Thanks for the help folks!
CM7 aborted. Instructions are incorrect, the file they say to download doesn't actually match the instructions so that's out. Plus it clearly states it's not suitable for day to day use... so I don't thnk the time in working out how to fix it is justified since it looks like it wouldn't be useful.
I'm going back to the original question in the thread, to say that I'm looking for something stable. I now think that a custom rom is not the way to go. However some modifications may well be.
Can anyone suggest some kind of lagfix/speedup that isn't a complete overhaul like CM7, Blockbuster etc, that is very stable and that'll make my phone faster?
Edit : Part of what I was doing to install Blockbuster was install Speedmod kernel. So I've gone and put that on, and used the clockwork mod to root it, and also convert to ext4. I think things are looking pretty fast so far. I'm not sure if there's a lagfix for this, but I'm quite comfortable just now footering around - unlike the complete rom I don't feel out of my depth. So I think I'll be ok for now.