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G1 slowness...normal?

Hey guys,
I'm making this thread because i'm not really happy with the speed of my phone, and i wanted to find out if it's just my phone or if everybody has the same issues.
I have a rooted phone with Cyanogenmod 4.0.4 and a Systemforce 3 theme installed. I even had it overclocked with one of the apps thinking it would increase performance. I do only have the stock 1GB sd card though, partitioned into 2 for app2sd, which i'm looking to upgrade soon.
Basically the issue is that if there are more than one or two apps running in the background (god forbid more than a couple of widgets) my phone starts to lag. I always have to go and kill processes to return it to a good speed. Going along those lines, it will also start chugging when music is playing, and even worse now with Pandora running in the background.
But the worst are the few times when i press home in an application and the phone just stalls for a about 5-10 seconds, with my widgets and icons disappeared and only my wallpaper showing......and then they all appear again.
Basically i'd like to know if this is the performance that all of you are experiencing, and if not what can i do to my phone to improve it. Thank you

try a wipe and try flashing without the theme

My son is set up exactly the same as yours, CM 4.0.4 and systemforce 3 using the 1 gig stock SDcard and he's not having any lag at all. He also has a ton of apps on his phone. I'm CM 4.0.4 using the neon theme but I have a 8g card class 6 (well worth the investment) got it from Amazon for about $25 after shipping. So yes wipe and reflash CM 4.0.4 is fast

Did that, it seems faster now, we'll see.
I definitely need a new SD card, its probably holding the phone back.
I don't wanna start a new thread but is there any way to control which apps start up with the phone, because a bunch of them start off right away and it slows the phone down. It's not that much of a hassle to turn them off one by one but it's be easier to just pick the ones i want beforehand.
Any app that does that?

ok so i could use some help... please...

alright it is with great pain that i am writing this, but i really need some help here. for months i've read the forums, searched for answers, asked little individual questions, IMed with people directly for help... and i'm still having trouble.
i rooted my T-Mobile G1 all the way back when cupcake first came out. everything was great. life was grand. everything ruled. i was a happy android fanboy, talking friends into switching to android, talking crap about iphones... the works... but slowly things started getting slower and slower and slower...
the obvious thing was to wipe and reflash. i was constantly just updating to newer cyanogen roms at that point without wiping. so i wiped to the newest cyanogen at the time (can't remember at this point, but just picture it was like a couple months after cupcake). so things were good again for a little bit, but then it started slowing down again, getting FC's, etc. so a friend recommended i switch to superD... i did, and again, everything was great for a while. i consistently upgraded superD roms (sometimes wiping in between sometimes not). eventually i got to the point where i was on the most recent superD release. it lasted about a day before things started slowing down. examples include when i hit home to exit an application and go to the home screen, the whole screen would either turn black or just show my wallpaper for a good 5 seconds before my home screen would appear, or opening the browser would take like 10 seconds. lots of slow down.
so with the help of a friend i decided to completely wipe and reformat/repartition my sd card. i bought titanium backup but i didn't even bother with it, i said to myself, look, you barely use any of the stuff you have right now, how about just start fresh and reinstall things as you need them manually. so i formatted, repartitioned (using amon Ra's recovery, using the menu option that helps you do it automatically). i made sure i had the most recent radio and spl (this was just a couple months ago), and reflashed the most recent superD (i think its 1.11 if i remember correctly)... again, maybe one day of good performance before everything slowed down. this was also about the time when my battery life started becoming an issue. i'm not exaggerating when i say i couldn't make it home without breaking under 20% battery by the end of the day... and i really don't use my phone THAT much. i'd say i'm a little above average on my usage. i'll get into my widgets and apps in a second, but i really don't use that much stuff...
SO... continuing my story (thanks for sticking with me if you're still reading...). when cyanogens 2.1 for the g1 rom came out (5.0.8d/s) i decided it was time for a change. i reformatted AGAIN, repartioned AGAIN, and flashed 5.0.8. basically, i've got the same story going on. slowdowns, poor battery life, etc.
so here i am with my cyanogen 5.0.8 flashed g1. let me tell you about apps and widgets and stuff. right now i have a regular wallpaper (not live), 14 icons between my 5 screens and just the google search and power management widgets. i used to have calwidget, the genie widget (both news and weather), and the setcpu widgets too, but i decided to take them off to see if it would help with performance. zero help. apps that i either know for sure are always running or i think may have some impact are twidroyd, newsrob, craigsnotif (craigslist notifier), and dealdroid. i don't think any other apps are running and/or do automatic updates for content and stuff like that.
i also use cachemate (purchased) regularly to clear my caches. apps2sd is enabled.
i'm not sure what other information you'd need to help me out, but just let me know and i'll try to give you more details.
right now, i've got slow down like almost all the time. things are constantly pausing, slowing down. i feel like i'm back on my t-mobile mda with winmo5 haha. and forget about it with the battery. i left the house with 90% battery this morning. i went to the gym. went home. picked up lunch. came to work. its been like 4 hours. i currently have 19% battery. all i've done is make 2 phone calls, about a dozen text messages and i've sent 2 tweets (about my battery problem haha). i also used google maps once to look up a number. my wifi and gps is off.
so there we go. really guys, please please please. help me out if you can. any help would be appreciated. i'm so sick of this. and i'm stuck in contract until july 2011. so i'm not getting a new phone any time soon. i gotta figure this thing out.
i really appreciate your help.
thanks.
Dave

OH... and PS... forgot to mention that I just got a new battery this week thinking maybe the battery was just getting old and bad. obviously, no such luck.

I had the same issues till I flashed a SuperD, then everything was fine. I just recently flashed the Froyo from Cyanogen and its like it fixed everything and I'm on a brand new device (knock on wood)!
How old is your G1? Do we know if there are issues with the first run out of the factory? Is that even an issue?

i got the g1 last july. so it was already out for a while at that point. it was new from a store though. i suppose there could be something actually wrong with the phone itself, but i don't know. i was thinking of trying the cyanogen froyo but because its not a stable release yet i figured it would be just this bad or worse...

I promise cm5.0.8 has wonderful battery life when no custom apps are installed and not on any network..
so the question is what is your phone doing, and ought it be doing what it is doing.
There are some nice built in tools for this
Applications->running services
And
Applications -> manage applications (check out the filter in the menu from that screen)
You may be surprised by the apps the think they need to constantly have a service running for some painful trivial job the android API has better interfaces for.. if in addition to that you don't need the app uninstall it.
Otherwise experiment with comp cache and lock launcher in memory.

another example, as i was reading this i was on the phone and i just finished the call and hung up, and i was previously in text messages, it took 12 seconds for my text messages to come up. thats just insane...
as for running services:
- GTalkService <--- I use GTalk all the time
- GenieRefresh Service (Restarting) <--- weird considering I disabled this widget, although I'd LIKE to have it back
- Maps FriendsAppWidgetUpdater (Restarting) <--- never used this in my life
- NewsRob UnreadWidgetProvidor (Restarting) <--- never used the widget before (as a matter of fact, you have to pay to use the widget and i have the free version... weird)
-Twidroyd Background Service <--- understandable, I use this constantly
- AKNotepad Snaptic Update (Restarting) <---- umm... I use this all the time but I don't know why a notepad program would need an updater service running... interesting...
- Swype <---- gotta have that
- CM Updater (Restarting) <--- Don't really think that needs to be on all the time. Can easily manually refresh that...
So that's it. I didn't realize this was included now. Very cool. On older roms I had to use task managers which don't seem to really work. I'm going to stop everything except twidroyd, gtalk and swype right now and see how that does... at the bottom it says Avail: 3.2MB+0.00B in 0 ... Other: 55MB in 4 ... While typing that the Maps FriendsAppWidget just popped back up... I'm gonna see if theres a setting...
In the meantime, does any of this give you any ideas? thank you so much for the advice. Also what does (Restarting) mean?

ezterry said:
Otherwise experiment with comp cache and lock launcher in memory.
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oh and i have compcache not checked and launcher in memory IS checked... i just tried turning on the compcache option... lets see how that goes...

ok so...
now that i know about those things that were running, i stopped all the ones i don't need, and also went into the apps to see if there was any options for turning off automatic updates, background syncing, etc etc for those things... i'm gonna charge my phone while getting ready to go out and then we'll see how it goes throughout the evening. lets see if i make it home with more than 20% battery left (i'll be gone for like 5 hours). if so then we're on to something here still i find it weird that i can't have a few widgets loaded. but whatever, i'll take a smoothly running phone that lasts all day and i just have to click on icons to get to stuff any day... thanks for the help, i'll let you know how its going tomorrow.

the next day
ok so i tried the compcache and keep launcher in memory options last night, messing with both settings. i found that every possible combination became very unstable other than the one i already had (which was compcache off and launcher in memory on). after trying to shut excessive running services like i mentioned yesterday, and also restarting the phone and then shutting them again, i got NO difference in performance OR battery life...
so back to square one... any ideas guys?
thanks so much for any help you can give me. i really really appreciate it.

polarbearmc said:
ok so i tried the compcache and keep launcher in memory options last night, messing with both settings. i found that every possible combination became very unstable other than the one i already had (which was compcache off and launcher in memory on). after trying to shut excessive running services like i mentioned yesterday, and also restarting the phone and then shutting them again, i got NO difference in performance OR battery life...
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Um... The compcache instability scares me a bit
Compcache has had issues (maybe still does) where the first time you enable it the phone crashes.. but then works fine with Compcache on reboot. Otherwise it really ought no make the phone unstable. (it may or may not speed things up depending on how memory is being used.. usually however it allows 12MB of memory that is rarely used to be compressed, allowing a little more active memory to be utilized) You may want to look into wiping dalvik-cache both on the internal memory and SD card:
Enter console and run (this will restart the phone)
Code:
rm -rf /data/dalvik-cache/*
rm -rf /cache/dalvik-cache/*
rm -rf /sd-ext/dalvik-cache/*
reboot
if you get an error about no files found thats not an issue; but other errors may indicate a problem.
This may help system stability (with or without compcache) .. but won't do anything about the battery life (nor speed unless something was seriously wrong)
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Unfortunately you will either need to erase all your apps and just run stock CM5 [maybe slowly restore your apps you really need] -- OR -- be very patient and debug whatever application(s) are causing issues on your phone (and maybe complain to the dev for failing to read/understand google's documentation on how to write android applications.. not that some of the google apps haven't quite figured that out until recently)
Thus again the main question is what is running on your phone.. The places I mentioned before allow you to see the services (most of which usually restart if you run the related application again) but not strictly all the details to look for.
Example 1 An widget service is likely holding onto memory starving timer services (those not listed) and swapping out other services (phone/launcher making everything feel slow) At the same time the widget is not very active usually and may not connect to the internet at all; thus may not reduce battery life.
Example 2 An IM client on the other hand may requires a service to keep TCP/IP connections alive, and if not coded properly may be very persistent and cause a slow continual stream of data from your phone requiring a large amount of power to keep the phone on 2G/Edge.
Example 3 A Task killer an kill tasks that re-spawn, or kill a task in use if it doesn't know better causing things to behave in strange ways.. so can killing services/applications from the setting screens btw.. but at least that is a one off by user decision not a automatic operation in the background. Tasks when re-spawned may require more data from the internet thus more power to 2G/Edge
User: Then the one that causes me the most problems: A user that keeps the phone in his/her pocket rather than surfing the web, checking XDA, or continuously checking the battery level is using the device less thus will have longer battery life. (careful to not fall into this trap)
Other Ideas:
SetCPU: set the sleep CPU low in profiles (sleep for me is 245/160)[/*]
Verify End action: Settings->End Button Behavior->Go to sleep[/*]
Set longer periods between polls in applications that poll the net (example twitter every 10 or 20mins.. not 5)[/*]
Larger net transfers on wifi if available (example tell newsrob to sync on wifi only) wifi drains the battery faster than idle, but is much cheaper if larger amounts of data are involved.[/*]
As you can see many things will impact the system. You will need to find the ones eating your battery
Another helpful screen for debugging this may be Settings->Spare Parts->Battery History and Settings->Spare Parts->Usage Statistics
I get between 4h and 12h batter life under semi-normal conditions. 4h = surfing 3g + tappatalk + games.. 12h check email/tweat if i get one.. otherwise stays in my pocket. I've seen my test phone hang out for days on a 2g network without data. (so you can always set your apn type to mms if you just need it to be a phone for many hours.. mms keeps mms support btw)
Ebuddy (and most other MSN/AIM/ect chat clients is frequently one of the biggest problems on my phone.. so if I need more battery those are the first to go.. and whomever it is can poke me on gtalk/txt/or wait
Good luck in your search.. Took me a while to make cm5 work as long as cm4.. most of it was mis-behaving apps that I either know to shut off when I need longer battery life.. or have found replacements for.. or avoid widget functionality if the widget was misconfigured. (

[Q] Is my Galaxy S more laggy than everyone elses?

I've had a 16gb Samsung Galaxy S on Three in the UK since they launched last year, and it's the only Android phone I've used.
It's pretty laggy, but since I'd read a lot about Galaxy lag online, I assumed this was to be expected.
However, I had to help a colleague with a problem on their HTC Wildfire today (a lower spec phone, as far as I know), and was amazed how much more responsive than my Galaxy S.
It didn't seem to show any of the laggy, hanging-ey behaviour I experience. I have more apps installed than the Wildfire, but I'm quite careful not to install anything that's going to run at startup or cause problems (mostlly just games, no widgets, etc.)
As an example, if I turn the phone on clean, wait for everything to be loaded and ready (media scanning to finish, etc.) then poke the "Market" button, it takes 28 seconds for it to be loaded and responsive. Close that, poke the Facebook button, over 20 seconds until I'm shown the news feed. Sometimes when the phone rings on my desk, I literally won't be able to get it to respond enough to answer the call before the caller hangs up. If I try to switch from program to program, I end up getting quite a lot of frustrating 20-30s hangs and pauses. This is all on a decent wifi connection, so the problem isn't data related.
The question is - how laggy should a Galaxy S be? Would it work better if I added an SD card (with the 16gb phone memory, I didn't see the need)? Is it worth installing a lagfix under Froyo (I tried one back on 2.1, but didn't notice a huge amount of difference)?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

I think its sometimes very busy rebuilding it's wifi connection. Or some other process.
Am not sure.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

I didn't see any speed difference with SD card IN/OUT so i don't think you will have faster phone by inserting it (SD card).

Why don't you try a reset and see if that works? Also are you on eclair or froyo because that would make a world of difference if you upgraded

I just got my sgs from bell Canada last Tuesday. It has all stock with launcherpro and a few Widgets. So far (knock wood) its been a big step up over my HTC dream. I experience maybe 10 seconds of startup lag and then for the rest of the day its awesome. My firmware version is the newest one bell offers (jl2 Frito). What android version are you running?
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monkeyhat said:
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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That's exactly my experience. The only way to solve it is with a good lagfix and/or flashing JPY firmware
This will get almost instant loading of apps and only minor lags when switching apps. It's still slow when scrolling icons and such... my previous phone, iphoe 3g, is still faster than this crap-phone
Cheers,
Soulbrighter

My Galaxy S was laggy as hell brand new out of the box. Sometimes it would hang for what seemed like 10 seconds. I didn't like the Samsung launcher anyway, so I did my homework, made sure I could get into 3-button download mode, and then rooted, wiped and flashed a custom Froyo ROM. I've tried a few ROMs since then and have landed on Insanity with EXT4 lagfix.
Now my Galaxy S is _awesome_ ... I don't even bother overclocking it, everything is smooth.

try a task killer and set it up to auto kill when screens goes off done a few tests with it ,one with no killer and one with and the one with was faster and had no lag fix running too go to the market and get quadrant standard try it for yourself and see

What's the current firmware you're using ? I suggest flashing to JPY and testing it out.

Update to JPY!
If not possible, install a lagfix on your current ROM/kernel.
The amount of lag you describe is terrible, I have never seen it that bad...

I don't think the lag should be that bad, I did experience some occassional lag back on eclair, but never exceeded 5-10 seconds. Usually after loading whatever that app was once, it'd be okay on the next open too.
Since I've upgraded to JPY i see 1-2 second lag extremely rarely.
Maybe you can get a task manager and see if anything is hogging memory?

Thanks for all the responses. The firmware is FROYO.XXJPO, so I'll definitely try flashing to JPY and will report back! Thanks so much for the tip!

[Q] HTC One M7 - phone has become slow, help?

Hi Everyone. I'm relatively new here, but would appreciate any advice offered.
I've had my M7 for almost 2 years now, and it's been a great phone. My issue is that the phone seems to have randomly become very slow. When I got the phone, I was amazed at how quickly the phone booted. Now when I do a reset, it easily takes 2-3 times as long as it used to. More importantly, the phone will lag when turning on with the power button (to the point where I wonder if I hit the button hard enough, and push it again, causing the phone screen to come on then immediately go off). Responding to texts is slow, the keyboard will occasionally lag opening up. Texting is sometime laggy as well, with words not appearing for several seconds. Scrolling through web pages is also laggy at times. Gaming is relatively fine; I haven't noticed any slow down issues when playing, although I suppose games could load faster, but I can't notice if there is a difference from when I got the phone until now.
The phone has also gotten wonky with adjusting the volume. Sometimes I will try to adjust the volume, but it adjusts the app/games volume instead of the main/ringtone volume (when I'm not in an app or game).
I do have a lot of stuff on the phone, but routinely clean out photos and apps I don't use. I'm using 23.8 gigs out of the 32g available, so I should have plenty of space. I also close out apps regularly, so I don't think it is a memory loss issue.
I've wondered if it is the apps running in the background. It's hard to tell, as the biggest ram offender is "settings." Right now for example, settings is using 76MB of ram, but i have no idea why. I've closed all apps as well. I'm on AT&T, so of course I have a bunch of their crap running in the background, but most of it is relatively small.
I've thought about doing a factory reset, or even rooting, to see if that would help, before I decide to just go ahead and upgrade to a new phone. Any suggestions? Thanks for the help!

tokar1118 said:
Hi Everyone. I'm relatively new here, but would appreciate any advice offered.
I've had my M7 for almost 2 years now, and it's been a great phone. My issue is that the phone seems to have randomly become very slow. When I got the phone, I was amazed at how quickly the phone booted. Now when I do a reset, it easily takes 2-3 times as long as it used to. More importantly, the phone will lag when turning on with the power button (to the point where I wonder if I hit the button hard enough, and push it again, causing the phone screen to come on then immediately go off). Responding to texts is slow, the keyboard will occasionally lag opening up. Texting is sometime laggy as well, with words not appearing for several seconds. Scrolling through web pages is also laggy at times. Gaming is relatively fine; I haven't noticed any slow down issues when playing, although I suppose games could load faster, but I can't notice if there is a difference from when I got the phone until now.
The phone has also gotten wonky with adjusting the volume. Sometimes I will try to adjust the volume, but it adjusts the app/games volume instead of the main/ringtone volume (when I'm not in an app or game).
I do have a lot of stuff on the phone, but routinely clean out photos and apps I don't use. I'm using 23.8 gigs out of the 32g available, so I should have plenty of space. I also close out apps regularly, so I don't think it is a memory loss issue.
I've wondered if it is the apps running in the background. It's hard to tell, as the biggest ram offender is "settings." Right now for example, settings is using 76MB of ram, but i have no idea why. I've closed all apps as well. I'm on AT&T, so of course I have a bunch of their crap running in the background, but most of it is relatively small.
I've thought about doing a factory reset, or even rooting, to see if that would help, before I decide to just go ahead and upgrade to a new phone. Any suggestions? Thanks for the help!
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Plug the phone into your pc and copy the entire contins of the sdcard to a folder on your pc. when it's done do a factory reset from the bootloader
setup the phone as a new phone and only copy back the stuff you really need and use. This should be done about every 6 months in my opinion

How is your storage? I had the same symptoms a few months ago, and what fixed it was clearing up some space from the phone. It used to have only 2-3 GB space left, and when I removed all the media files I got 12-13 GB free space left, and suddenly the phone is back to snappy again!

When I encountered the same situation, I was rooted and running CM 12, but no amount of wipes would resolve the issue. What I did that resolved the issue was to load the RUU for my HBOOT version, re-root my One, change the system to S-Off (hence not updating the HBOOT version), and then reloading everything. In all honesty, it took about 8 hours if you include the banging my head against the wall trying to download the right files, but the performance is increased about 25%, with the battery performance having increased about 30%. Before, about 4 hours of activity would kill it, now she can handle 5 to 5:45 of activity. I was initially thinking about grabbing a new phone, but the change after reloading everything makes me think that another she'll be good for another year.

UI lag and stutter

I recently upgraded to an S6 Edge from an HTC One M8. This phone is probably one of the best phones I've ever used. However I have noticed that sometimes the phone just "lags". For example pulling up the recents menu can take a couple extra seconds. When scrolling homescreens/settings app, it is not as smooth as I thought it should be. Chrome scrolling is pretty horrible sometimes. I've only had the phone for 7 days. I did disable most of the Samsung/Verizon/Microsoft apps. I also did clear cache from the recovery. The only remedy is to just reboot my phone which helps for about a day. Does anyone else have this issue as well?

jasonxlee01 said:
I recently upgraded to an S6 Edge from an HTC One M8. This phone is probably one of the best phones I've ever used. However I have noticed that sometimes the phone just "lags". For example pulling up the recents menu can take a couple extra seconds. When scrolling homescreens/settings app, it is not as smooth as I thought it should be. Chrome scrolling is pretty horrible sometimes. I've only had the phone for 7 days. I did disable most of the Samsung/Verizon/Microsoft apps. I also did clear cache from the recovery. The only remedy is to just reboot my phone which helps for about a day. Does anyone else have this issue as well?
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I am also facing same issues and even sometime it feels most of the games also lags on s6 edge

Yes, my phone has serious lag. It is basic stuff, like hitting the home button it will take 2 seconds for the app icons to slowly repopulate. The calendar widget is rough, often takes 1-3 seconds for the widget to appear. I have disabled the majority of verizon apps and cleared out cache; I just did a factory reset and will try and load back in some apps but so far this phone has horrible lag. I installed the exact same apps and same set up as my Moto X 2013 and I am thinking about switching back to the old phone until some software updates come out.

i have heard about this on the smaller 32GB and there have been people that had 32 and replaced it with 64GB version that swear there is a difference in performance but i have the 64 and dont have any lag complaints.
what do you all have?

fletch33 said:
i have heard about this on the smaller 32GB and there have been people that had 32 and replaced it with 64GB version that swear there is a difference in performance but i have the 64 and dont have any lag complaints.
what do you all have?
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I have the 64GB version. I cracked my screen and sent it back to Samsung to repair. I am hoping they find some other problems with the phone. I have reverted back to my Moto X 2013 and it is amazing how much more fluid the UI works. The apps do not quite operate as fast (i.e . browsing, Instagram pictures, etc.) but there is 0 lag in the UI. Unless the Edge comes back running smooth I am going to sell it, the UI lag is way more frustrating than apps and browsing working slightly slower.

I received my phone back form Samsung after the cracked screen repair (cost ~$240.00). Via trial and error I am pretty confident my Calendar widget that is linked to an Exchange Account was causing my serious UI lag issues. I installed all my applications but this time used a stock wallpaper, installed Calendar Widget (started to get some lag so then removed) and did not install the photo frame widget. Now I have no UI Lag. I am pretty sure it was an issue with the calendar widget, but I am just going to stick with the stock wallpaper and no photo frame either as the UI Lag seems to have disappeared with this new setup.

When you are starting to experience lag, check how much free memory you have. When I start seeing lag, my memory is down to about 5-8%. I think this is the memory issue that is discussed in other posts. I also have a 64G device

I had spotty lag on stock ROM, but everything has been blazing on either of the custom ROMs currently available if you're up for rooting to test it out.