Hey guys,
I'm making this thread because i'm not really happy with the speed of my phone, and i wanted to find out if it's just my phone or if everybody has the same issues.
I have a rooted phone with Cyanogenmod 4.0.4 and a Systemforce 3 theme installed. I even had it overclocked with one of the apps thinking it would increase performance. I do only have the stock 1GB sd card though, partitioned into 2 for app2sd, which i'm looking to upgrade soon.
Basically the issue is that if there are more than one or two apps running in the background (god forbid more than a couple of widgets) my phone starts to lag. I always have to go and kill processes to return it to a good speed. Going along those lines, it will also start chugging when music is playing, and even worse now with Pandora running in the background.
But the worst are the few times when i press home in an application and the phone just stalls for a about 5-10 seconds, with my widgets and icons disappeared and only my wallpaper showing......and then they all appear again.
Basically i'd like to know if this is the performance that all of you are experiencing, and if not what can i do to my phone to improve it. Thank you
try a wipe and try flashing without the theme
My son is set up exactly the same as yours, CM 4.0.4 and systemforce 3 using the 1 gig stock SDcard and he's not having any lag at all. He also has a ton of apps on his phone. I'm CM 4.0.4 using the neon theme but I have a 8g card class 6 (well worth the investment) got it from Amazon for about $25 after shipping. So yes wipe and reflash CM 4.0.4 is fast
Did that, it seems faster now, we'll see.
I definitely need a new SD card, its probably holding the phone back.
I don't wanna start a new thread but is there any way to control which apps start up with the phone, because a bunch of them start off right away and it slows the phone down. It's not that much of a hassle to turn them off one by one but it's be easier to just pick the ones i want beforehand.
Any app that does that?
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Hey guys,
I've got a little problem for over a few months, so I thought why not ask it on XDA maybe all those smart guys know a solution!
Problem is that when i'm in a program (mail, music, sms, or any other app / game) and I press the home button, it always takes about 15 to 20 seconds before it's fully loaded. First after 3 seconds you see the blank background. Then the icons come back after like 13 seconds, then the widget(s) (i only have 2) and finally after some more seconds waiting it's all usable.
Well, it's a pretty annoying problem, everytime i have to look for something fast, I have to wait those 20 seconds. I can't find a solution, here is what i've already done:
1. It started with the CM 4.xxx roms so I wiped installed it again -> nope didn't work
2. Fully wiped everything including the ext partition and flashed Super D -> nope
3. Since CM 5 is out, wiped again and flashed CM5 -> nope...
The weird thing is, that when I freshly installed one of those roms, it seems to work but after a few app installs and phone useage, it starts lagging loading the home screen. And in 2 days it becomes worse untill every press is a looong load time!
I've got an Transcend 8GB Micro SD which is class 6 (should be enough). It was standard delivered with my T-Mobile G1. The ext partition is 457MB large (and there is 351 free space on it). Internal on the phone is now 21MB free. But even with 70 free it won't work...
I don't have swap enabled now with the new CM, but I did had it with Super D so that also doesn't seems to work. I've got Compcache enabled now. I REALLY don't know what to do... it just sucks that it takes so long to load, I hope anyone of you has a solution
Thanks!
Here is my approach:
In spare parts enable both comp cache (you indicated this is done) and launcher in memory.
The hope is launcher will not need to usually fully reload but can be compressed into the compcache when not is active use.
This applies to cm 4.2 and cm 5 on the dream.. every now and then the system will still kill the launcher if memory is tight so don't be shocked at it fully reloading from tike to time.. but usually it works out and keeps the phone very responsive.
Do not use swap.
(Well if desperate you can try 20-30mb but more than that will not work well with android memory management.. and even that small amount may do more damage to the SD card then actually help the system runtime.. I just don't use swap and attempt to back out of applications when done)
Thanks for the reply, i've done that and hope it will load a bit faster now I'll let u know!
Thanks it works great, my phone just feels so much faster now!
I've had a 16gb Samsung Galaxy S on Three in the UK since they launched last year, and it's the only Android phone I've used.
It's pretty laggy, but since I'd read a lot about Galaxy lag online, I assumed this was to be expected.
However, I had to help a colleague with a problem on their HTC Wildfire today (a lower spec phone, as far as I know), and was amazed how much more responsive than my Galaxy S.
It didn't seem to show any of the laggy, hanging-ey behaviour I experience. I have more apps installed than the Wildfire, but I'm quite careful not to install anything that's going to run at startup or cause problems (mostlly just games, no widgets, etc.)
As an example, if I turn the phone on clean, wait for everything to be loaded and ready (media scanning to finish, etc.) then poke the "Market" button, it takes 28 seconds for it to be loaded and responsive. Close that, poke the Facebook button, over 20 seconds until I'm shown the news feed. Sometimes when the phone rings on my desk, I literally won't be able to get it to respond enough to answer the call before the caller hangs up. If I try to switch from program to program, I end up getting quite a lot of frustrating 20-30s hangs and pauses. This is all on a decent wifi connection, so the problem isn't data related.
The question is - how laggy should a Galaxy S be? Would it work better if I added an SD card (with the 16gb phone memory, I didn't see the need)? Is it worth installing a lagfix under Froyo (I tried one back on 2.1, but didn't notice a huge amount of difference)?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I think its sometimes very busy rebuilding it's wifi connection. Or some other process.
Am not sure.
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I didn't see any speed difference with SD card IN/OUT so i don't think you will have faster phone by inserting it (SD card).
Why don't you try a reset and see if that works? Also are you on eclair or froyo because that would make a world of difference if you upgraded
I just got my sgs from bell Canada last Tuesday. It has all stock with launcherpro and a few Widgets. So far (knock wood) its been a big step up over my HTC dream. I experience maybe 10 seconds of startup lag and then for the rest of the day its awesome. My firmware version is the newest one bell offers (jl2 Frito). What android version are you running?
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That's exactly my experience. The only way to solve it is with a good lagfix and/or flashing JPY firmware
This will get almost instant loading of apps and only minor lags when switching apps. It's still slow when scrolling icons and such... my previous phone, iphoe 3g, is still faster than this crap-phone
Cheers,
Soulbrighter
My Galaxy S was laggy as hell brand new out of the box. Sometimes it would hang for what seemed like 10 seconds. I didn't like the Samsung launcher anyway, so I did my homework, made sure I could get into 3-button download mode, and then rooted, wiped and flashed a custom Froyo ROM. I've tried a few ROMs since then and have landed on Insanity with EXT4 lagfix.
Now my Galaxy S is _awesome_ ... I don't even bother overclocking it, everything is smooth.
try a task killer and set it up to auto kill when screens goes off done a few tests with it ,one with no killer and one with and the one with was faster and had no lag fix running too go to the market and get quadrant standard try it for yourself and see
What's the current firmware you're using ? I suggest flashing to JPY and testing it out.
Update to JPY!
If not possible, install a lagfix on your current ROM/kernel.
The amount of lag you describe is terrible, I have never seen it that bad...
I don't think the lag should be that bad, I did experience some occassional lag back on eclair, but never exceeded 5-10 seconds. Usually after loading whatever that app was once, it'd be okay on the next open too.
Since I've upgraded to JPY i see 1-2 second lag extremely rarely.
Maybe you can get a task manager and see if anything is hogging memory?
Thanks for all the responses. The firmware is FROYO.XXJPO, so I'll definitely try flashing to JPY and will report back! Thanks so much for the tip!
ok so hello every one who has IS
i have it for 3 weeks and i notice that a lot of the times its slow and has a lot of laggs, this happens when i open apps list and scroll it laggs for a split second and the more i use it i find it in more places.
now is it just my phone or every one notices its not as smooth as you'd expect?
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more laggs when Live Wallpaper is on...and i thought 1GH processor should handle it
IS suppose to be INCREDIBLE, whats going on ?
Have you updated to 2.3?
I wolud do a "factory reset", and if that makes it as fast as it should bee, i would then start to install your extra apps.
i get what you are saying, but just as a phone, its not smooth
and live wallpaper takes all CPU and makes it even more slow.
is it just my phone that doesnt "FLOW" andd smooth?
I have lots of apps installed and is running LiveWallpaper, and i have no lag at all.
sent you a PM
anyone else has laggs ?
what can i do ?
last week i got OTA in swiss, after updates i got too much lagging problem as well. Many time i have done hard reset but it works same, now I am going to sell my phone. its a bull**** update.
I had one for a week, sometis it was laggy too. Do you have advanced task killer? Close some apps, clean your ram.
See if that helps to begin with?
Initially mine was also laggy, but i updated to gingerbread nad the phone became fast. Not as smooth as iphone but was a lot better then before.
After a lot of testing I can say that the main reason at most of the lagy phones are apps installed at the sd card....Check which apps are causing the problem and put them at the phone's memory.I hope that this helps!
Then whats the point of having a SD card if installing apps on it makes the phone laggy
It is not a matter of the phone but the class of the sd card.In order to be as quick as possible you sould use a ''fast'' class sd...
It saves space. But you need to get an SD card with a decent Class. My MicroSD card is 32Gb Class 10 and I'm not getting any lag on my phone I also use Advanced Task Killer.
Your best bet would be a task killer.
I would suggest ATK (advanced task killer) or battery doctor.
there are definitely a lot of talk on how the newer android versions do not need a task killer, but your situation may be one of those and am certain it will help.
If you already do not have the gingerbread update, i believe that would solve your problem initially, but if you bloat your phone with apps and do not exit out of apps but just press the home key, you will defy need a task killer.
try it
Do you use the HTC Messages widget? The one which lists all your messages rather than just shows the last one?
Since the update to gingerbread I noticed mine lagging when swiping screens. This widget now seems to update the contact photo's etc every time I unlock the screen now which causes lagging until you wait on that screen for it to finish updating.
I've switched to the other messaging widget and seems fine now.
updating folloing you recomendations
OK so i did the 2.3 update
have task killer and everything else...
am i going crazy or the iphone 4 is flawless no laggs, but the IS does still have
laggs ? it happens somethimes not all the times - it seems that
the phone, just by being a IS phone has lags, small, tiny but laggs sometimes.
when you open contacts info, when you scroll apps list, when live WP is on
and many more.
am i right?
any help to the problem or its just that the phone is like that?
I got my captivate on launch day (well 2 days after due to shipping) I stayed with stock for awhile and just did the lag fix.. it was ok.. i think the first rom i did was cognition.. or perception one or the other then did the other after that.. ran those for a bit.. tried CM7 (i think that was in january?) then firefly then something else and then netflix hit.. and i went to Continuum (v5.4.1) and thats where i sit now.. and i'm about really to go back to a iphone (also i REALLY REALLY hate that idea.. i like the iphone it self but i cant stand apple)
heres my main issues. lockups and slow downs. my phone hasnt ever been prone to locking up. until about a month or so ago (a week or 2 after flashing continuum_) so i'm guessing its something i installed that continuum dosnt like or its continuum it self.. with way it looks like i'm probably gonna be flashing something else no idea what.. what ever it is i want to to support netflix (Suggestions?) as far as slow downs.. the away it sits now if i open up the browser and do a search then back out of that to my home screen it takes it a good 5-10 seconds to load the icons and widgets on my home screen.. very annoying might not seem like much very it dose get VERY old
i know most of that is due to the rom.. but that also brings up another concern i've having..
I like android.. i really do love the live wallpapers altho halk the time i dont have one selected due to it might be slowing down my phone (see above).. when updating apps on my phone (say having 2-3 apps to update and clicking the update all button) makes the phone SOOO laggy (had this on all roms i've used) that i cant even receive a phone call untill its done downloading and installing them all.. thats annoying but i can live with it.. another issue.. turning on wifi/bluetooth.. i turn off my wifi every day when i goto work np.. get off at 6am come home goto bed.. wake up and usually check my email ect.. and before that i turn on my wifi.. about 15% of the time it wont turn on.. it says error in the setting menu.. try a few times.. still error.. do i have to reboot the phone.. just to turn wifi on.. bluetooth does the same thing.. except alot less often (mainly because i only use bluetooth for my stereo headphone and thats maybe once a week)
now alot of that can probably be traced back to roms.. but.. if i want to keep using android am i going to have to constantly be changing roms to try and find whats the best? so far i'm flashing a new rom about every month (i know some of you do it every week)... and really i just want one thats gonna work.. all the time.. i know wheres gonna be bugs every now and then even teh jesus phone has them and has to be updated..but when it take my 15 seconds to unlock my phone because i just gotta text message and the screen fade out right as i pull it outta my pocket is getting old
now for hardware side LOL.. main issue.. the damn capacitive buttons i've made a post about this before.. and i know theres not much that can be done.. but MAN are they annoying.. 1/2 i have to repetatly hit the buttons just for them to see that i've hit them at all... some times its 10-20 times before i picks up that i hit the back button at all (i use back the most) The gps.. well at first (stock) was HORRIBLE 20 minutes to get a lock.. the last few roms i've used have worked better (usually gets a like in under 30 seconds but some times loses it.. for no real reason like i drive under a tree for 1 second.. but i RARELY use the gps.. last time i used it was months ago so not sure how i would work actually driving now.. usually use it for google maps and such
apps.. (here is the only point i'm gonna compare apple and android).. we all know apple has more apps blah blah blah.. BUT android isnt THAT far behind in number or apps.. my issue with them is 'polish' or quality of apps.. not sure if this is that iOS is easier to make thinks look 'good' or what but.. if you look at.. say HD wallpaper apps on android .. thes a ton of them and they all have a very.. plain GUI nothing special about them.. iOS seems to be better looking.. no necessarily better content but been GUI to the apps i do like the openness of the android market just about anything and everything is all in 1 market (altho i am liking amazons market free app a day) when as iOS you have the app store and cydia (and installious if you choose). your not gonna find any SNES emulators on the app store but you can find them on cydia where as on android they are all in the market (altho they did just purge them a bit ago but i'm starting to see them come back)
One thing i have noticed sence i got my andoid i play less games on it then i did my iphone
I know this has been kinda a rant and hopefully you can help me.. i do like my captivate.. but at the same time i am due for a upgrade anytime i want.. and i dont really see anything coming out on ATT that is really any better then my captivate (captivate runs everything i've tried just fine.. excpet needing certian roms for netflix and no hulu app support yet)
I guess i'm just looking for the fence see the greener grass.. logicly i know its no better... but the idea if just using it and not having alot of the issues i'm having now sounds VERY nice...
Sounds like you should wipe your system. I would recommend using Titanium Backup, especially the Pro version as it can automate the backup/restore process. Search around the forums and you can find how to go back to either stock 2.2 or 2.3. See if that makes a difference for ya.
I can understand your frustrations with the phone, especially in the lagginess area. Just out of curiousity, what launcher are you using? Sometimes that can have an effect on your overall perceived speed. Also, if you haven't already done this, go into display settings and change your screen timeout to something longer. That might stop that particular annoyance.
I don't know what widgets you're using, but in general, the more widgets you have going, the more sluggish your phone will be. You could also try switching background data off (or at least auto-syncing), as that can slow things down, too.
As far as stability goes, if you're in the Gingerbread world, right now, things aren't going to be ultra-stable. Development of roms overall right now is going well, but it's still in an earlier stage of development. If you need stability, it might be best to head to Froyo for a while, where there are a lot of good, solid roms that would probably suit your needs. (Can't comment on netflix, as I don't use that app.)
You may find that your capacitive buttons become more responsive as you remove other lag factors, but I can't guarantee that. It's a little bit of the nature of the beast.
The gaming area on Android isn't as developed as the iOS version, but there are still some good quality games out there. Give Dungeon Defenders a shot (if that's your sort of thing), or Backbreaker, or Robo Defense. All of these look pretty good and are a lot of fun.
Ultimately, just like the previous poster said, a system wipe and restart might do you some good. Just back up the things that are crucial, and see where a "format internal sd" gets you.
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I can understand your frustrations with the phone, especially in the lagginess area. Just out of curiousity, what launcher are you using? Used a few AWD launch, twiz, sony erricson, launcher pro Sometimes that can have an effect on your overall perceived speed. Also, if you haven't already done this, go into display settings and change your screen timeout to something longer. That might stop that particular annoyance. Current screen timeout is 1 minute.
I don't know what widgets you're using, but in general, the more widgets you have going, the more sluggish your phone will be. You could also try switching background data off (or at least auto-syncing), as that can slow things down, too. only using 2 Fancy widget for clock and weather and the power widget oh and a widget for screen filter set to 20%
As far as stability goes, if you're in the Gingerbread world, right now, things aren't going to be ultra-stable. Development of roms overall right now is going well, but it's still in an earlier stage of development. If you need stability, it might be best to head to Froyo for a while, where there are a lot of good, solid roms that would probably suit your needs. (Can't comment on netflix, as I don't use that app.)
You may find that your capacitive buttons become more responsive as you remove other lag factors, but I can't guarantee that. It's a little bit of the nature of the beast. i have been a issue really from the start..
The gaming area on Android isn't as developed as the iOS version, but there are still some good quality games out there. Give Dungeon Defenders a shot (if that's your sort of thing), or Backbreaker, or Robo Defense. All of these look pretty good and are a lot of fun.
Ultimately, just like the previous poster said, a system wipe and restart might do you some good. Just back up the things that are crucial, and see where a "format internal sd" gets you. Yeah.. i've done this.. many times.. thats one issue i have.. is this gonna be a never ending cycle?
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10charters =P
Also remember that restoring data saved from a 2.2 based rom can cause issues if you are restoring to new GB based rom. If you want a rom that just works then u would say stay stock. As for your apps reloading I see this alot when people load way tooo many shortcuts on their homescreen. With the folder programs and app drawers there is no real reason for having more then say 5 or 6 shortcuts on a single page of the launcher.
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Also remember that restoring data saved from a 2.2 based rom can cause issues if you are restoring to new GB based rom. If you want a rom that just works then u would say stay stock. As for your apps reloading I see this alot when people load way tooo many shortcuts on their homescreen. With the folder programs and app drawers there is no real reason for having more then say 5 or 6 shortcuts on a single page of the launcher.
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I have maybe 5-6 short cuts spread on 2-3 screens i keep everything other then handcent, mail, market, amazon market, gallery and camara in teh app tray
^ What zelendel said.
You could also try Zeam launcher. I've used that one in the past, and it's pretty snappy. Also, try turning the weather updates off on the fancy widget for a couple of days and see if that helps.
It doesn't have to be a never-ending cycle. In the same vein as what zelendel is suggesting, it might be worthwhile just to see how much you can simplify your interface and still live with how it works. I recently went from having 5 screens of shortcuts to 3, and I've noticed that the phone seems snappier overall.
Flash to stock KF1 Gingerbread and remove the bloatware. It runs Netflix great and I don't have many lag problems. If I do its when I'm trying to run music while browsing the internet while texting and having games open in the background. Other than that it really is a solid build since its straight from Samsung and isn't having to use a reoriented kernel. If that isn't what you like then try Serendipity 7, I tried GR-12 when Serendipity was in its early stages and it was nice, but I like the idea of having the *proper bootloaders (whether it really makes a difference, I don't know, but placebos are powerful).
sent from my KF1 Galaxy S Captivate
Read through the "sluggish" thread and did not see my issue mentioned and thatthread seems to have become sidetracked with benchmarks and game responsiveness issues.
I am running stock nook rom, rooted and with sideloading enabled. I also use GOlauncher as opposed to the nook launcher.
What i have noticed is that after 2 to 3 weeks of use the tablet slowly starts to get slow and unresponsive. Dolphin takes time to open, and pages scroll very very slowly. Sometimes they will not scroll at all, even though theyare fully loaded and rendered. Scrolling is also noticeably slow and unresponsive in the engadget app. It is not smooth, but jerky, ifit scrolls at all. Rebooting does not have any effect.
The first time this happened i did bring the free space down to about 300meg. After reading other posts here i decided that was the issue, backed up and started allthe way over from scratch! The issue went away. I re-installed everything, got it running clean and smooth and set up just how i like it. I then took a cwm backup and put it insafe place. Fast forward 3 more weeks and i was back to slow scrolling and unresponsiveness again. At no time in that 3 weeks did i drop below 8 gig free, so i know that is not the issue.
Here is where it gets a little strange. Today, i did a full backup with titanium, then a restore from my fully config and SMOOTH cwm backup. I then did a restore all appps and system data from the titanium i made earlier in the day. I am back to smooth and responsive. This tells me there is something that is getting corrupted or not released, even with a reboot. Anyone have any ideas on what to try next time other than a restore from cwm and a reload from titanium?
I had the same issues with stock 2.1. Besides the slow game loading and random stutter for games, the device would slowly start to accumulate to slow for everything. I would like to test with 10.1 as my native stock OS, rather than 2.1.
I had a similar experience. Even after disabling nook sync apps and making tweaks, stock would eventually slow down. Something about stock 2.1 just doesn't manage its memory/cache properly.
This isn't the solution you may want, but I'd recommend trying emmc Cm10.1. Its plain, but its virtually bug free and hasn't crashed on me yet.
This isn't the solution you may want said:
I've been rooting and bootloader unlocking Android for about 3 years now and this has to be the easiest tablet to put CM 10.1 on with the latest tools. It's actually easier than my Nexus 7 when it first came out. My hair actually turned grey when I was unlocking my Note 2 bootloader. I wish every Android device was just as easy as the Nook HD+. I think part of the confusion is that in the beginning you had one method (running CM off sd card) and you now have the more current method (replacing Rom which is the most common). The development area needs to be cleaned up better because it does look confusing. I've only been a Nook HD+ owner for 24 hours and I have made my custom micro SD card, installed CM 10.1, reverted back to stock with no backup (needed to return for a bright pixel in the middle of the display), repeated process again with new tablet and made proper backups. Sounds like a lot but this is nothing compared to what I've been through.
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Seems to be because B&N has trim disabled:
http://blog.davidron.com/2013/10/fixing-lag-on-barnes-and-noble-nook-hd.html