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Still S-OFF after updrading to 2.30.405.1 OTA

We have a discussions here at work and perhaps you guys can help...
We have 3 IncS that is S-OFF with a XTC-Clip, and we are considering to upgrade the standard ROM to the new 2.30.405.1 OTA.
So the question is if that is going to set the phone back to S-ON or will the still be S-OFF and Rooted?

I think the same question was discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159725

Thanks - realy appericiat yuor answer ;-)

jkolner said:
Thanks - realy appericiat yuor answer ;-)
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Yup the OP of that thread has confirmed that he flashed the OTA on his clipped IncS and retained S-OFF, although he did lose root and had to re-root.

When Some one S-OFF with xtc clip its for permanent no going back

What NOW?

I have successfully custom flashed Sense 3.0 with 2.3 gingerbread for my incredible S phone. It only took 3 long days. I am very happy but what now? I want this to be my permanent ROM. Is there anything else that I am recommended to do now? I was reading about how you can make your phone almost like a stock phone meaning S-OFF and Unroot. Not too sure if that is necessary. What do you guys think?

please provide more info..
what Custom Rom are you on and how did you flash Sense 3.0.
there's a lot of threads hear and your initial details really don't provide much useful information.

I am on Virtuous Unity 1.27.0 Sense 3.0 based on Pyramid, I flashed it through 4EXTRecovery_v2.1.0_RC1_vivo.
I also had to flash a radio file to my ROM afterwards. I did that through the SDK software. Instructions from here: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Incredible_S:_FAQ Here is a list of Radio files for your specific provider/region : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12870734&postcount=1
I S-OFF'd my phone through Alpha RevX..there is also a you tube tutorial on how to do it. If anyone has anymore questions on how to do it then msg me!
So now what is left to do?????? Any other procedures? Besides flashing more Roms!

saying the custom rom, radio, cwm would have been enough information. anyways i see that you're new so it's all good.
so the question is, What do you want to do with your phone. after customizing it, are you okay with performance? no bugs? What do YOU want to do with your phone?

I want to permanantly make it my OS. Is that possible? I posted all of that because when I was figuring out how to do this I found that other peoples solutions helped me out alot tee hee

guys I think this belongs in "General"

IncredibleSlover said:
I want to permanantly make it my OS. Is that possible? I posted all of that because when I was figuring out how to do this I found that other peoples solutions helped me out alot tee hee
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What do you mean 'permanently make it my OS'? That ROM will stay on your phone as long as you want it, until you decide you want to flash a different one. There's no need to go trying to lock it down again after flashing it, that's a pointless exercise.

Dude you're S-OFF and rooted now, there is nothing else to do other than installing custom ROMs or flashing radios(if needed) Virtious Unity is now your ROM, if you want to revert back to what the phone came with, you will need to flash a official RUU.

Awesome thanks for the reply

hussainmushahid said:
Dude you're S-OFF and rooted now, there is nothing else to do other than installing custom ROMs or flashing radios(if needed) Virtious Unity is now your ROM, if you want to revert back to what the phone came with, you will need to flash a official RUU.
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Hi, I need the S-ON. everywhere let me just advise'll update RUU, but I did and I still have the S-OFF. You know how to solve it? I need back guarantee.
thank you very much.

exnerjan said:
Hi, I need the S-ON. everywhere let me just advise'll update RUU, but I did and I still have the S-OFF. You know how to solve it? I need back guarantee.
thank you very much.
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you need to go S-ON again? you used alpharevx? If so, just flash the whole official RUU and you will be S-ON again since it would also flash the bootloader.

hussainmushahid said:
you need to go S-ON again? you used alpharevx? If so, just flash the whole official RUU and you will be S-ON again since it would also flash the bootloader.
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That is a common misconception. Apparently AlphaRevX's HBOOT prevents a RUU from overwriting it. There have been several posts about running an RUU on an AlphaRevX S-OFF IncS and the ROM does indeed update, but the device is still S-OFF and AlphaRevX HBOOT is still in place.

doctorsax said:
What do you mean 'permanently make it my OS'? That ROM will stay on your phone as long as you want it, until you decide you want to flash a different one. There's no need to go trying to lock it down again after flashing it, that's a pointless exercise.
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Awesome man, thats what I wanted to hear

hussainmushahid said:
Dude you're S-OFF and rooted now, there is nothing else to do other than installing custom ROMs or flashing radios(if needed) Virtious Unity is now your ROM, if you want to revert back to what the phone came with, you will need to flash a official RUU.
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You mean I wont be able to recover my old settings if I have restored it?
I dont care really if I cant. Is it because I am now 2.3 gingerbread????
Well it doesnt matter because I love this new ROM and will be keeping it forever

uh oh this is bad. no more warranty for my phone :s

tpbklake said:
That is a common misconception. Apparently AlphaRevX's HBOOT prevents a RUU from overwriting it. There have been several posts about running an RUU on an AlphaRevX S-OFF IncS and the ROM does indeed update, but the device is still S-OFF and AlphaRevX HBOOT is still in place.
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and know how to do it to the S-ON? Please.

tpbklake said:
That is a common misconception. Apparently AlphaRevX's HBOOT prevents a RUU from overwriting it. There have been several posts about running an RUU on an AlphaRevX S-OFF IncS and the ROM does indeed update, but the device is still S-OFF and AlphaRevX HBOOT is still in place.
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I haven't tried it myself so I guess you're true, when I flashed the stock RUU I flashed it without the bootloader file (unzip,delete,zip) as stated in a thread regarding keeping S-OFF when installing stock RUU. A guy has found the solution to going S-ON again in his thread in the general discussion section.

hussainmushahid said:
I haven't tried it myself so I guess you're true, when I flashed the stock RUU I flashed it without the bootloader file (unzip,delete,zip) as stated in a thread regarding keeping S-OFF when installing stock RUU. A guy has found the solution to going S-ON again in his thread in the general discussion section.
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Yes I saw that this morning. Basically AlphaRevX has a special HBOOT you can 'downgrade' with that you must flash and then using the special HBOOT you can flash an official HTC HBOOT. End result is S-OFF and you have a standard HTC HBOOT.

can I use XTC clip over AlpharevX?

Hello again ppl..
been away some time, lost some of the developments here..
So I'm kind of confused.. I have the IS with 2.12.405.7 unlocked with AlpharevX.. and I want to go to 2.30.405.1
and as I told you I have a bunch of questions.. if someone could help would be nice..
- can I get the OTA update over the AlpharevX or will it stuck..?
- if I don't get the OTA can I use the XTC clip over AlpharevX to get a permanent S-OFF and then the OTA or it will burn everything.. ?

nikant said:
Hello again ppl..
been away some time, lost some of the developments here..
So I'm kind of confused.. I have the IS with 2.12.405.7 unlocked with AlpharevX.. and I want to go to 2.30.405.1
and as I told you I have a bunch of questions.. if someone could help would be nice..
- can I get the OTA update over the AlpharevX or will it stuck..?
- if I don't get the OTA can I use the XTC clip over AlpharevX to get a permanent S-OFF and then the OTA or it will burn everything.. ?
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In order to receive the OTA update, you need to have the standard HTC recovery in place instead of ClockworkMod. I believe if you search this forum you may find conflicting reports of whether taking the OTA after AlphaRevX made you lose S-Off or not. You will definitely lose root. If you do lose S-Off, the latest Revolutionary from AlphaRev/Unrevoked will work on 2.30. Your best bet would be to clip your phone if you access to a XTC clip. Then you wouldn't have to worry about it.

Or just install http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168796 if you want to stay with a stock ROM. I did.

thank you guys.. I'll probably try the cooked ruu.. (still curious though what would happen if I used XTC over the AlpharevXed hboot..)

Nothing different would happen. One is software based one is hardware based.

ste1164 said:
Nothing different would happen. One is software based one is hardware based.
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True but the clip says not to use over modified hboot..
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App

I need to find Advanced ACE Hack Kit for Incredible S

Greetings to all. It is looking for this method to Intsredible S. Maybe someone will be able to fix in this method, or edit it. In the previous yulagodaren. I hope for your help. I really want to roll back your smartphone with Hboot 2.0 1.13 or more nizutsyu version. In general, the method of super, well developed for the DHD why would not do for IS?
Link to this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259821

Toor0p said:
Greetings to all. It is looking for this method to Intsredible S. Maybe someone will be able to fix in this method, or edit it. In the previous yulagodaren. I hope for your help. I really want to roll back your smartphone with Hboot 2.0 1.13 or more nizutsyu version. In general, the method of super, well developed for the DHD why would not do for IS?
Link to this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259821
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Here is the downgrade tool for the IncS. The only HBOOT version on the incS that had a working version of gfree was 1.09. This script will downgrade and allow o to flash an older RUU that can than be S-Off using Revolutionary.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697

No. No,no,no,no,no,no,no,nonononono.... No!

tpbklake said:
Here is the downgrade tool for the IncS. The only HBOOT version on the incS that had a working version of gfree was 1.09. This script will downgrade and allow o to flash an older RUU that can than be S-Off using Revolutionary.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697
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Nonverbose said:
No. No,no,no,no,no,no,no,nonononono.... No!
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I got to thinking last night after posting this that HBOOT 1.09 was only for the Froyo RUUs anyway, so that isn't an option for downgrading HBOOT 1.16/2.0x since you can't flash a Froyo radio once you have the GB radio/RUU installed, so there is no reason to even think about trying to add gfree to the mix at this point.

!!??
So I can downgrade the firmware and Hbut or not? And by the way unlock butlouder already been made, received, and Root root.

Toor0p said:
So I can downgrade the firmware and Hbut or not? And by the way unlock butlouder already been made, received, and Root root.
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You can downgrade to a lower GingerBread RUU (2.xx.xxx.x) which has HBOOT 1.13 so that you can run Revolutionary to gain S-OFF. You cannot downgrade to a Froyo RUU which has HBOOT 1.09 in order to run gfree and gain SuperCID.
If you attempt to flash a Froyo RUU (On the IncS, most of the Froyo RUUs were version 1.xx.xxx.x) you will radio brick your phone and end up with a paper weight.

Well, I will be enough of it. After all, the meaning of a S-off dropping Hboot. And close the bootloader.
Do not tell the most convenient way to do it, and if possible is easier. I have a dictionary translating what you write =)))

How can I downgrade to a lower GingerBread RUU (2.xx.xxx.x) which has HBOOT 1.13? Plaese help me...And now I have already received and Root root, custom firmware androyd Revolution 2,3,0.

Toor0p said:
How can I downgrade to a lower GingerBread RUU (2.xx.xxx.x) which has HBOOT 1.13? Plaese help me...And now I have already received and Root root, custom firmware androyd Revolution 2,3,0.
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I already answered this for you in POST #2 of this thread!!!!!!!

[Q] download the radio

Were i can download a radiorom 19m for ics roma

Cobra218 said:
Were i can download a radiorom 19m for ics roma
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Under Dev section there is a thread with it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32067488&postcount=323)

I'm sorry for kinda hi-jacking the thread, but if assuming after bootloader flashed the radio but it still reads radio version as older one, does that mean it failed to flash? If so what might be the cause?
I have S-ON and Dev unlocked bootloader thats running custom roms atm.
Now I think of.... I did not remember HBOOT asking my confirmation.... so I assumes its S-OFF issue then?
Thanks!

Jintso said:
I'm sorry for kinda hi-jacking the thread, but if assuming after bootloader flashed the radio but it still reads radio version as older one, does that mean it failed to flash? If so what might be the cause?
I have S-ON and Dev unlocked bootloader thats running custom roms atm.
Now I think of.... I did not remember HBOOT asking my confirmation.... so I assumes its S-OFF issue then?
Thanks!
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Pretty sure it won't work with s-on. What does it say when you update the radio in bootloader?

markj338 said:
Pretty sure it won't work with s-on. What does it say when you update the radio in bootloader?
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Nothing really, last thing it goes was "Parsing PG32IMG.zip" then jump back to menu.
Oh well I suspected its s-off issue, gonna fiddle with getting it tonight and then try to update the radios.
Thanks :highfive:
Edit: Is it possible for the radio to be updated without having any obvious modifications? Like version number and such. Just having the strange feeling that it might have worked afterall... Before flashing radio my signal was constantly jumping between 2 to 5 bars, now it just stay at 5, Jedi mind tricked? (same location btw)

lol maybe i need to s-off my inc s to flash a new radio

lowrcclm said:
lol maybe i need to s-off my inc s to flash a new radio
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definitely, u will never regret it :thumbup:
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