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A system update is available

Hi guys
I have the Sensation and the Flyer so these days I was too busy trying to S-OFF them and to gain perm root. (no luck yet) During this time my Incredible S was turned off this means I have been away from my Incredible S for a month now.
Today I turned my Incredible S on and I saw that there is a new System update :
A SYSTEM UPDATE IS AVAILABLE
SYSTEM UPGRADE 2.30.405.1 (30.17MB)
My Incredible S has been S-OFF`ed since April by XTC CLIP and I have been on the stock Rom due to some errors on the customs roms like ( no harware backlight etc.)
My question is if I apply this update will I loose my S-OFF ?
Secondly If I loose S-OFF will XTC CLIP bring my S-OFF again ?
Thanks
DC

I got that this morning.... but then it vanished when i checked again

i think if you're s-off already you won't lose it. and you have the xtc clip anyways, worse comes to worst you can use it again.
i read that if you upgrade to this versoin on stock and try alpharevx, you won't be able to s-off it

i dont "think", i am 100% sure you will not lose your s-off
why? cuz i have tested every possible way to s-on again my phone..including OTA...

You will lose your S-off only when you overwrite bootloader.
I s-off my phone using AlphaRev but wanted to test a few things in full stock so installed my stock GB RUU to S-on my phone again.
After that I S-off again.
It will not s-on unless you run an RUU and overwrite bootloader. Even if you get it s-on accidentaly there its possible to s-off from any state So you shouldn't have any problem installing this OTA. This OTA doesn't have a bootloader (I assume you already on GB ). Froyo to GB OTA had a new bootloader in it.
Let me know if you face any problem s-offing and I'll assist you.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App

ehsan76 said:
You will lose your S-off only when you overwrite bootloader.
I s-off my phone using AlphaRev but wanted to test a few things in full stock so installed my stock GB RUU to S-on my phone again.
After that I S-off again.
It will not s-on unless you run an RUU and overwrite bootloader. Even if you get it s-on accidentaly there its possible to s-off from any state So you shouldn't have any problem installing this OTA. This OTA doesn't have a bootloader (I assume you already on GB ). Froyo to GB OTA had a new bootloader in it.
Let me know if you face any problem s-offing and I'll assist you.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App
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The OP has a XTC Clipped IncS that is S-OFF. This is not dependent on a patched HBOOT like AlphaRevX is; this is Radio S-OFF and will not be affected, even by running a RUU.

Ok I did the update but ,
I am getting an error installing the update 2.30.405.1
My current software is 2.12.405.7
Here is the video of the error .....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc8DPq6XlkA
Any ideas why ?
Maybe I might have installed another region RUU in April, but can't remember now.

doublecheese said:
Ok I did the update but ,
I am getting an error installing the update 2.30.405.1
My current software is 2.12.405.7
Here is the video of the error .....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc8DPq6XlkA
Any ideas why ?
In order to install the OTA, you need to replace ClockworkMod recovery with the recovery.img file from the 2.12.405.7 ROM.zip.
Maybe I might have installed another region RUU in April, but can't remember now.
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I tried this last night and actually got a progress bar and it got about 1/3 of the way and then I got a red triangle with a !. I know that the radio I have installed is newer than the one in the 2.12.405.7 ROM.zip, so that may be my problem. Anyway, I'm going to pass on the OTA and just go ahead and flash the 2.30 ROM.zip using ClockworkMod instead.

tpbklake said:
The OP has a XTC Clipped IncS that is S-OFF. This is not dependent on a patched HBOOT like AlphaRevX is; this is Radio S-OFF and will not be affected, even by running a RUU.
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^^
This
RADIO S-OFF via XTC Clip is permanent as of right now.
AlphaRevX S-OFF method is reversible with a RUU.

tpbklake said:
The OP has a XTC Clipped IncS that is S-OFF. This is not dependent on a patched HBOOT like AlphaRevX is; this is Radio S-OFF and will not be affected, even by running a RUU.
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doublecheese said:
Ok I did the update but ,
I am getting an error installing the update 2.30.405.1
My current software is 2.12.405.7
Here is the video of the error .....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc8DPq6XlkA
Any ideas why ?
Maybe I might have installed another region RUU in April, but can't remember now.
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@tpbklake: Sorry I don't have any idea how XTC chip works as I bought Incredible S after a software s-off method had been confirmed
@doublecheese: Download the WWE_2.30.405.1 RUU from this link and try running it directly from your PC or use this guide to install it from boot-loader. Don't forget to take a Nandroid backup before upgrade
You wont need GoldCard in your case as you have WWE Incredible S and you are installing a WWE Rom on it
Hope this will help
Ehsan

You can't do ota updates when you have a custom recovery installed..

Guten tag Madmaxx82
If I just flash the WWE 2.30.405.1 RUU instead , would I loose my S-OFF ?
Sorry man it's been quite time I don't follow the IS forums.

yesterday i did updates into new version, nothing special, only my phone performance bit faster. and battery performance is same for me. but i think updates are always worthwhile.

doublecheese said:
Guten tag Madmaxx82
If I just flash the WWE 2.30.405.1 RUU instead , would I loose my S-OFF ?
Sorry man it's been quite time I don't follow the IS forums.
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Since you are S-OFF'd using the XTC Clip, you will be safe to flash the 2.30 RUU and still have S-OFF after the process.

tpbklake said:
Since you are S-OFF'd using the XTC Clip, you will be safe to flash the 2.30 RUU and still have S-OFF after the process.
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Thanks man if Ioose S-OFF. I'll XTC CLIP it again anyway .....

Im S-OFF with a XTC-Clip and is running stock 2.12.405.7 ROM.
Can anybody confirm 100% that i don't loos S-OFF if i upgrade to 2.30.405.1?
Im a bit nervous becaus i don't have access to a XTC-Clips any more.

jkolner said:
Im S-OFF with a XTC-Clip and is running stock 2.12.405.7 ROM.
Can anybody confirm 100% that i don't loos S-OFF if i upgrade to 2.30.405.1?
Im a bit nervous becaus i don't have access to a XTC-Clips any more.
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I took the 2.30.405.1 RUU and extracted the ROM.zip and then made a rooted ROM using the HTC Android Kitchen and flashed that on my clipped Inc S, so now I'm running GB 2.30.405.7 and still S-OFF. You can always go that route if you don't want to risk running the stock RUU.

jkolner said:
Im S-OFF with a XTC-Clip and is running stock 2.12.405.7 ROM.
Can anybody confirm 100% that i don't loos S-OFF if i upgrade to 2.30.405.1?
Im a bit nervous becaus i don't have access to a XTC-Clips any more.
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I own my own XTC CLIP and a S-OFF Incredible S , I can confirm that you will NOT loose S-OFF after the OTA . How I know ? Because I did the risk and apply the OTA myself ... But S-OFF remains there solid as rock !!!!
But you will loose your root and then you have to do what EHSAN76 suggested to me....... This is how I get my IS rooted again.
HERE IS THE LINK TO THAT THREAD

[Q] Radio s-off for idiots (like me)

How do I get radio s-off so I can install another radio. I'm not a complete idiot (as the topic says), but I'm having trouble understanding these "adb" commands, where to typ them in, and if I need some program on my computers.
So I would appreciate an idiots guide to s-off

You don't necessarily need radio S-OFF to flash a different radio. If you have HBOOT S-OFF you can flash a new radio in the bootloader.

Hello,
As said above you don't need radio soff. I think to be able to flash you need only boot soff.
If you have a stock rom you can gain soff using alpharevx (see dev section).
For windows the useful software is:
- htc sync (from HTC site) for the correct usb drivers;
- Android sdk (google)
- I don't know if eclipse is a req or not (i've installed)
- fastboot (google)
The "famigerate" adb is in the Android sdk.
For tutorial, there are a lot in the dev section.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App

Hi,
i can't understand so why we need Rsdio s-off? Yesterday i flashed new radio from Android Revolution HD 1.1.1 post.

nalbo said:
Hi,
i can't understand so why we need Rsdio s-off? Yesterday i flashed new radio from Android Revolution HD 1.1.1 post.
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Yeah, I did so too! Didn't know how I could've missed that part Sorry for the lame question ...lol!

everything you need - is ENG HBOOT
If you have HBOOT S-OFF you can flash a new radio in the bootloader.
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actually - no. AlphaRev HBOOT cannot flash radio.

I managed to update my radio in the AlphaRevX HBOOT screen by booting into it with the new radio (named as PG32IMG.zip) in the root folder.
It does seem, however, that you can't flash a radio like this on some newer phones (at least that's what the word on the forums is telling me), so maybe my way doesn't work for everyone. Guess ENG HBOOT might be the only way for some people after all, but my phone didn't need it.

So can someone actually confirm, can we flash Android Revolution with Alpharevx S OFF In his post it says the radio needs to be S OFF, which is different to Alpharevx S OFF, and reading other posts who only have Alpharevx S OFF when they have flashed AR ROM they are experiencing problems during calls, so they then have to install eng hboot which, in itself, seems to cause problems also. Have i lost u yet
Android Revolution post says:
"HTC Incredible S S-OFF
Radio S-OFF in order to flash new radio
ClockworkMod Recovery with EXT4 support from here"
jaysonline says:
"alpharevx s-off is sufficient...you don't have to do a special radio s-off..I'm already running Android Revolution HD 1.1.0
edit: even I didn't find anything specific about radio s-off"
Can someone please finalise...maybe someone has flashed AR using just Alpharevx S OFF and all is ok.
Cheers.
btw, watching Terminator 2....what a film...even after at least 100 watches

You don't need radio S-OFF to flash a ROM, so yes, you can flash ARHD with only the HBOOT S-OFF and root. The only thing you may not be able to flash is a radio, but that depends on the individual phone, as I mentioned in the post above.

doctorsax said:
I managed to update my radio in the AlphaRevX HBOOT screen by booting into it with the new radio (named as PG32IMG.zip) in the root folder.
It does seem, however, that you can't flash a radio like this on some newer phones (at least that's what the word on the forums is telling me), so maybe my way doesn't work for everyone. Guess ENG HBOOT might be the only way for some people after all, but my phone didn't need it.
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Yes, exactly my experience. Two UK Inc S's, both s-off'd with XTC clip, one flashed radio no problem, the other newer one would not flash radio til ENG hboot installed.

I have flashed new radio with HBOOT S-OFF. I tried to install ENG hboot but had some problems. Just installed adb and followed instructions from Android Revolution HD 1.1.1 post. Maybe i'm lucky

doctorsax said:
You don't need radio S-OFF to flash a ROM, so yes, you can flash ARHD with only the HBOOT S-OFF and root. The only thing you may not be able to flash is a radio, but that depends on the individual phone, as I mentioned in the post above.
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Don't you need to flash the recommended radio in order to get the best out of the ROM? I got a new IS so I imagine I will need the eng HBOOT...just having problems with sdk thats all

VaderXI said:
Don't you need to flash the recommended radio in order to get the best out of the ROM? I got a new IS so I imagine I will need the eng HBOOT...just having problems with sdk thats all
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Yeah, though the ROM should still be functional with a different radio at least.

codryn said:
My Desire S was S-ON with HBOOT 0.98.0000. I have unlocked it with alpharevx and now I have HBOOT 6.98.1002. Should I flash this version of HBOOT (ENG)? And if yes how could I do this in most easier way.
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I read this post yesterday from ieftm the project initiator of the AlpharevX.
ieftm said:
Yeah, it gives exactly 0 advantages over AlphaRevX hboot. That is in essence what we patched in on our HBOOTs as well.
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So apparently AlpharevX HBOOT should contain the same functionality as ENG HBOOT.
So don't bother.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA Premium App

Think I'm gonna stick with the stock ROM. Quite happy with it really, sooooo much better than my Samsung Omnia HD i had before in every way....it actually does what it says it can do without having to implement a **** load of workarounds! All I would be interested in if i flashed a new ROM is better battery performance, and they cant necessarily guarantee this. Think Ill try this out first for battery performance:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1166716.
Cheers all!

[q] hboot 1.16.0000 soff?

Sorry if this has been asked but i did search first...
I have a new (optus) IS,
GB 2.3.3
HBOOT 1.16.0000
ROM 2.34.980.1
I want soff and root but alpharevx will not work with 1.16.0000
Can i get soff and root or do i have to wait until alpahrevx gets updated?

Ueee said:
Sorry if this has been asked but i did search first...
I have a new (optus) IS,
GB 2.3.3
HBOOT 1.16.0000
ROM 2.34.980.1
I want soff and root but alpharevx will not work with 1.16.0000
Can i get soff and root or do i have to wait until alpahrevx gets updated?
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Here is a tool that is in the Development thread you could try. It may not work with your HBOOT 1.16.0000, but it's worth a shot, right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1245904

Go to revolutionary.io. You can s-off your device there.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App

Ueee said:
Sorry if this has been asked but i did search first...
I have a new (optus) IS,
GB 2.3.3
HBOOT 1.16.0000
ROM 2.34.980.1
I want soff and root but alpharevx will not work with 1.16.0000
Can i get soff and root or do i have to wait until alpahrevx gets updated?
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ste1164 said:
Go to revolutionary.io. You can s-off your device there.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App
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Although OP did mention alpharevx, the alpharevx site now redirects you to the revolutionary.io site. On their documentation wiki, they state:
HTC Incredible S (vivo) 1.09.0000 and 1.13.0000
So apparently he has a newer hboot version.

Sorry for the confusion, but to clarify i did try revolutionary, but got to it from an alpharevx link, hence the confusion.

I got the same problem here, new IS from Virgin mobile in early this month..... no clue at all....

omg, can we please get a method to get it working? After hours of research and rooting and videos, I then noticed that I had to get "S-OFF", but now I can't do it because the 1.16 version is out.
I'm new to these forums, just basically want to find out an answer, if anyone wants to say something email me on [email protected] as I may not check but I will try to visit and check on it. I'm so excited to root it an install cyanogenmod.
I've got Incredible S on virgin mobile unlocked.

Bump!!!
Every day atleast twice a day I keep looking back at the revolutionary site to see if they have updated anything yet. I'm not sure, but apparently can I goldcard (changing my HBOOT) then I will be able to root... or..? cause it's on 1.16 which is not able to be rooted yet apparently.
Not too sure. So damn impatient!

Ueee said:
Sorry for the confusion, but to clarify i did try revolutionary, but got to it from an alpharevx link, hence the confusion.
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Hi, Ueee..
Did you have any sms delayed and
miss call problem for the 2.34.980.1 optus rom?

ansg86 said:
Hi, Ueee..
Did you have any sms delayed and
miss call problem for the 2.34.980.1 optus rom?
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Also, what is your radio version?

ansg86 said:
Hi, Ueee..
Did you have any sms delayed and
miss call problem for the 2.34.980.1 optus rom?
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No sms or missed call problems at all

neo-X said:
Also, what is your radio version?
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Radio version is 20.2810.30.085au

Ueee said:
Radio version is 20.2810.30.085au
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Looks like they pushed a fix out with a new radio and base software. Good news!
Now just gotta get the optus rom on my phone and update it.
As for rooting your version, looks like your stuck until revolutionary release an update.

Does anyone know if it is a purely a radio problem? If not, if I restore the stock rom (nandroid) would it be possible to flash a custom kernel without screwing up my phone?

Tartarus1 said:
Does anyone know if it is a purely a radio problem? If not, if I restore the stock rom (nandroid) would it be possible to flash a custom kernel without screwing up my phone?
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It seems as thought it's both radio and software problem.

Neo-X did you try loading the old Optus rom and then allow the OTA upgrade? Did it work?
I bought mine for mobicity then alpharexed it and using ARHD at present.
i guess installing the optus rom then OTA will remove the root.....

tzuyang said:
Neo-X did you try loading the old Optus rom and then allow the OTA upgrade? Did it work?
I bought mine for mobicity then alpharexed it and using ARHD at present.
i guess installing the optus rom then OTA will remove the root.....
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No i didn't try it. I just sent it back in to downgrade because i'm giving the phone to a family member and need it working 100%. Yes it will but i would have thought that if you use revolutionary before you do anything that not even an ruu will touch hboot and you will be s-off no matter what.

humm
i think this is more of a sense problem than anything as i have had the missed calls/delayed sms on the HTC sensation Incrediable s and wild fire s
on all of them turning them to 2g only fixes the problem
this is causing me to switch away from htc for now as it kiils the smartphone experience

So is anyone able to answer my question?
I have HBOOT 1.16.0000 and have S-ON
I want to make it S-OFF, but revoloutionary.io only does 1.09.0000 and 1.13.0000
Can I get S-OFF so I can root? Thanks

jakeyo said:
So is anyone able to answer my question?
I have HBOOT 1.16.0000 and have S-ON
I want to make it S-OFF, but revoloutionary.io only does 1.09.0000 and 1.13.0000
Can I get S-OFF so I can root? Thanks
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Does not look like you can for now. You will have to wait for revolutionary.

[Q] Which firmware for 4.3 based ROMs

I was just going to flash ARHD 3.1 GE which is 4.3 based.
Currently i'm unlocked/s-off (thanks to revone) with hboot 1.44 and RUU 1.29.401.16.
Do I even have to update firmware or does 1.29 based fw work with 4.3 correctly?
Basically i'm confused with these firmware packages: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2182823
Is flashing a 2.24.401.12 based firmware going to update hboot too? Does this one break touch in recoveries too?
Why the custom firmwares based on 2.17.401.1 RUU and why aren't there 2.24.401.12 based custom firmwares?
Hopefully someone can answer at least some of my questions :angel:
Thanks

_saiko said:
I was just going to flash ARHD 3.1 GE which is 4.3 based.
Currently i'm unlocked/s-off (thanks to revone) with hboot 1.44 and RUU 1.29.401.16.
Do I even have to update firmware or does 1.29 based fw work with 4.3 correctly?
Basically i'm confused with these firmware packages: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2182823
Is flashing a 2.24.401.12 based firmware going to update hboot too? Does this one break touch in recoveries too?
Why the custom firmwares based on 2.17.401.1 RUU and why aren't there 2.24.401.12 based custom firmwares?
Hopefully someone can answer at least some of my questions :angel:
Thanks
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Sounds like your a noob, so don't upgrade your hboot.
Sent from my One using xda app-developers app

gee thanks, you answered everything
I want to keep hboot 1.44, so it's fairly a simple question whether the 2.24 based firmware updates hboot as well or not.
That is my main question.

Tw1tchy said:
Sounds like your a noob, so don't upgrade your hboot.
Sent from my One using xda app-developers app
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That was so rude, even if he is a noob, I think he has the right to find information and in this case, ask for it.
To be honest, I would like the answer to this too.

_saiko said:
gee thanks, you answered everything
I want to keep hboot 1.44, so it's fairly a simple question whether the 2.24 based firmware updates hboot as well or not.
That is my main question.
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Yes the firmware will update the hboot. It may also update your radio and other hidden partitions.
I would recommend having s-off if your looking to upgrade your firmware. If you don't s-off you have to find the firmware corresponding with your CID. Most of it the time you have to run a RUU to upgrade so back up. Lastly S-OFF only works on hboot 1.44 so if your looking to s-off in the past (assuming you haven't already) don't upgrade because there is no downgrade method yet.
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Guys,
Go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2316726
Read the guide, and flash the 3.06/2.17 combo file if you can (S-off helps). Will give you the great updated touch drivers, and the GE 3.06 firmware. Sneakyghost did an excellent job with this guide, it will really help you out!

And if i'm S-OFF and on 1.44 HBOOT. Does it worth me upgrading ? What will be the benefits of new firmware / hbott ?

Im already s-off on 1.44 using revone, so what would happen with s-off status if I were to flash the 3.06/2.17 firmware from snakyghost?
Would it remain s-off?
Also something caught my eye, is the hboot from snakyghost a modified version and would reverting to s-on while having it brick the device?

r3v0Lut10n said:
And if i'm S-OFF and on 1.44 HBOOT. Does it worth me upgrading ? What will be the benefits of new firmware / hbott ?
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Sirs please if you could give an answer Id be grateful

_saiko said:
Im already s-off on 1.44 using revone, so what would happen with s-off status if I were to flash the 3.06/2.17 firmware from snakyghost?
Would it remain s-off?
Also something caught my eye, is the hboot from snakyghost a modified version and would reverting to s-on while having it brick the device?
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You will not lose s-off if you flash it just don't s-on with that firmware

Flashing firmware need not be a harrowing experience. As long as you read the guides carefully and follow the instructions to the letter, you will be fine. I have probably flashed at least 5-6 firmware packages on my One since getting it.
In general, once you're s-off, it's good to be on the most recent firmware because of various bug fixes like touch sensitivity. And, it would seem to be best to be on a matching firmware/rom base.
Once you start doing this stuff, however, forget about going back to s-on. You can do it if you're careful, but it's a bad idea. One mistake could leave you with a brick or crippled phone.
Again, to emphasize: Read very carefully, follow the instructions exactly, and you'll be safe.

Thank you Sirs
Usually i'd go and test things myself before asking, but in this case a wrong choice is not an option

[Q] Downgrade hboot 1.56 to 1.55

i need help desperately please. so i bought a sprint htc one to unlock but the unlock wont work. somone on the web said they were able to do the unl,ock but they downgraded the hboot version from 1.56 down to 1.55.
Just wondering is there a tool to downgrade the hboot version from 1.56 to 1.55?
any help will be appreciated

You can downgrade if you are S-OFF only

Why do you want to downgrade?

v1ral said:
Why do you want to downgrade?
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Can you help me achieve root and s-off my sprint htc one,kitkat with hboot 1.56.0000? I can see you were able to achieve that looking at your signature,even though I don't know from which rom.
I have tried firewater's method but it didn't work for me,my device is running a complete stock kitkat 4.4.2 rom,any help?
thank you.

EVANS AMOAH said:
Can you help me achieve root and s-off my sprint htc one,kitkat with hboot 1.56.0000? I can see you were able to achieve that looking at your signature,even though I don't know from which rom.
I have tried firewater's method but it didn't work for me,my device is running a complete stock kitkat 4.4.2 rom,any help?
thank you.
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Never mind I finally did it.

v1ral said:
Why do you want to downgrade?
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I would like to be on android 4.2.2 again so I can factory unlock it

how did it ?
how did it ?

What exactly do you mean bro?
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EVANS AMOAH said:
Never mind I finally did it.
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How'd your do this? this is the first report I've seen of successfully getting s-off on 1.56. This gives me hope.
What method and how many attempts did you make? Mac or Windows?

schnp said:
How'd your do this? this is the first report I've seen of successfully getting s-off on 1.56. This gives me hope.
What method and how many attempts did you make? Mac or Windows?
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I tried all kinds of methods best known to me but none worked while I was on kitkat version 4.06.651.4) using firewater.so this is exactly what I did,
I upgraded to software version 4.06.651.9 (kit kat) before firewater actually worked.So if you really want to achieve s-off using firewater,then you have to upgrade to the latest version number of kitkat.
1.Upgrade to the latest version of kitkat(4.06.651.9)
2.Unlock boot using htcdev.
3.Install custom recovery and superSU to get root access.
4.use firewater to achieve s-off.
Infact firewater worked the first time I tried after installing the latest software(4.06.651.9)
So I advice you to install the latest software and keep your eyes on the phone to grant super user access.
hope this helps.