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If the phone is running stock rom and recovery, does a hard reset return the phone and the system folder to their unroot state?
What?
Stock ≠ root.
NexusDro said:
If the phone is running stock rom and recovery, does a hard reset return the phone and the system folder to their unroot state?
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Hard reset doesnt get the phone back to unrooted state.
so to unroot I have to flash the original rom?
Once you unlock your boot loader your phone is unlocked forever. If yet load stock ROM that does not have root then of course you won't have root access. But you just load back a ROM with root access and you have super user again. Root just depends on what ROM you are running.
I think there's something I misunderstood, so correct me if I am wrong. Isn't there a recovery partition where the original ROM is stored so that if you factory reset, the phone will be restored to whatever the original ROM is? If I root my phone and keep the stock unrooted ROM, wouldn't factory reset return my phone to the unrooted state?
NexusDro said:
I think there's something I misunderstood, so correct me if I am wrong. Isn't there a recovery partition where the original ROM is stored so that if you factory reset, the phone will be restored to whatever the original ROM is? If I root my phone and keep the stock unrooted ROM, wouldn't factory reset return my phone to the unrooted state?
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As long as you haven't changed the recovery, this should be true. The phone should be unrooted when you recover it, but the bootloader will still be unlocked.
Thanks for the clarification. I understand the unlocked bootloader part. BTW, I think I read somewhere that you can root the phone without unlocking the bootloader.
NexusDro said:
I think there's something I misunderstood, so correct me if I am wrong. Isn't there a recovery partition where the original ROM is stored so that if you factory reset, the phone will be restored to whatever the original ROM is? If I root my phone and keep the stock unrooted ROM, wouldn't factory reset return my phone to the unrooted state?
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not really. if you load cyanogen ROM on your phone, then you do a factory reset, i believe it just loads the cyanogen ROM fresh. you would have to flash a stock ROM to go back to factory.
NexusDro said:
I think there's something I misunderstood, so correct me if I am wrong. Isn't there a recovery partition where the original ROM is stored so that if you factory reset, the phone will be restored to whatever the original ROM is? If I root my phone and keep the stock unrooted ROM, wouldn't factory reset return my phone to the unrooted state?
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There is no recovery partition, and there is no "original ROM". There is System partition and Data partition, System being read-only for non-root users, and Data being R/W (but some folders invisible in file managers). System is what contains the "ROM" as you know it.
SU and Superuser.apk get installed into System.
Factory reset wipes Data and Cache. It doesn't touch System.
So, if you sum it up - you get that even if you do a factory reset, you won't get unrooted.
Thanks. It makes sense now.
Hmmm yeah it looks like I misunderstood that, then. Sorry.
Better idea! someone try it and find out.. and there are now ways to root n1 without unlocking bootloader.. as i would think it would actually do unroot if you do a factory reset from a stock recovery.. am i willing to try... NOooo...
But from previous post ahead it does make more sense.. that it wouldnt.. but still good idea to give it a try
ilostchild said:
Better idea! someone try it and find you.. and there are now ways to root n1 without unlocking bootloader.. as i would think it would actually do unroot if you do a factory reset from a stock recovery.. am i willing to try... NOooo...
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I've done this and it worked well. Running the latest CM6 nightly.
Not too sure about unrooting - i did have an issue (caused by me i'd say), and i downloaded EPE7x stock room, renamed it to PASSIMG, and the bootloader recovered it for me, and i was back to stock.
Not sure if it was the correct way, but it worked... As opposed to when i tried to flash the recovery, boot, etc, i received an error about verification failure.
frankyyy02 said:
I've done this and it worked well. Running the latest CM6 nightly.
Not too sure about unrooting - i did have an issue (caused by me i'd say), and i downloaded EPE7x stock room, renamed it to PASSIMG, and the bootloader recovered it for me, and i was back to stock.
Not sure if it was the correct way, but it worked... As opposed to when i tried to flash the recovery, boot, etc, i received an error about verification failure.
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Yea... We are talking bout being on Stock Everything, but having ROOT, you have full mod from recovery to ROM(having CM6)
questioin was if have fully stock FRF91 with only root, if going to recovery and doing a factory reset/wipe would it take off root, at least thats what i read or remeber reading if this is the right thread
So can someone tell me how to get back to stock from rooting? I believe I used french Toast.
ilostchild said:
Yea... We are talking bout being on Stock Everything, but having ROOT, you have full mod from recovery to ROM(having CM6)
questioin was if have fully stock FRF91 with only root, if going to recovery and doing a factory reset/wipe would it take off root, at least thats what i read or remeber reading if this is the right thread
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Yeah i sort of miss read... oh well.
I think i did try to factory restore to unroot, but don't think it worked from memory, that's why i used the PASSIMG.
vegeta_one said:
So can someone tell me how to get back to stock from rooting? I believe I used french Toast.
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I want breakfast now.. But by no means at all not trying to sound like a **** head here, but there is a thread in the Dev section on how to get back to stock .. its one of the stickies in the dev section.. or i think it is
anyone have a image of the original software, or the .SBF? I want to go back to stock and start over.......... and right now I have CM installed internally. Factory reset (8X power off) ability is long gone.
chukk98 said:
anyone have a image of the original software, or the .SBF? I want to go back to stock and start over.......... and right now I have CM installed internally. Factory reset (8X power off) ability is long gone.
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I'm fairly certain the 8x reboot/restore still works even if you have a custom rom flashed.
But anyway, here is everything you may or may not need.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914690
maybe I am doing it wrong, but nope, doesn't work.
thank you!!!
I will send my stock I897UCKB2 phone back when I get a new one due to USB connectivity problems. I plan to search for all files newer than a certain date on the new KB2 and my existing (which is rooted with CWM) and then delete or replace files to get my old phone back to "normal" before sending it back. I don't know if all changes show up in files off of "/" though. I assume bootloaders do not but does everything else? I know some files are updated through normal use but items like turning off boot sounds via SGS Tools (requires root) creates backup sound files, etc which I plan to delete. Should searching for updated files allow me to clean up traces before running "unroot"?
i suggest using the odin3 1-click to go back to stock 2.1 and then master clearing to delete all of the files that arent supposed to be there
dsilvan55 said:
i suggest using the odin3 1-click to go back to stock 2.1 and then master clearing to delete all of the files that arent supposed to be there
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I think one of the reasons they haven't released I897UCKB2 via KIES is so they will know if we do that. If they give you a refurb now and you flash anything else, you can not get KB2 back. KB1 (via KIES) may be the same software but KB2 is kind of "signed". If you change it, your done getting refurbs...
I'm speculating but it makes sense to me. Therefore, I am sending it back as KB2 but planning to erase all tracks of root. I'd like to know what others think though, and if they agree, my question is applicable.
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Yes thats true. Plus if your phone is above version 1010 it could mess up your phone pretty badly. Im wondering how did you get kb2 in the first place?
edit: I think you can master clear still without going to stock jf6. i think it will just delete all the files and add the needed files back such as sdcard/dcim/ or sdcard/android/
dsilvan55 said:
Yes thats true. Plus if your phone is above version 1010 it could mess up your phone pretty badly. Im wondering how did you get kb2 in the first place?
edit: I think you can master clear still without going to stock jf6. i think it will just delete all the files and add the needed files back such as sdcard/dcim/ or sdcard/android/
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Thanks. I recently got a warranty replacement which is how I have KB2 and it is a 1012 so I agree JF6 would cause problems. I agree a master clear simply formats the internal SD card (user part) so I plan to do that. I'm trying to find how to clear the system file changes such as CWM, superuser, etc
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Enter these codes in the dialer
Hard reset: *2767*3855#
Factory data reset: *#*#7780#*#*
studacris said:
Enter these codes in the dialer
Hard reset: *2767*3855#
Factory data reset: *#*#7780#*#*
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Just wondering what does a hard reset do compared to factory?
What does the hard reset do?
xThe Enforcer said:
Just wondering what does a hard reset do compared to factory?
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I'm wondering the same thing. Does a hard reset wipe basically do a factory reset (clearing user data) and also wipe the internal SD (the 14G compared to the 2G)? I think I read that somewhere but couldn't confirm when searching.
Not sure honestly....but since you're about to wipe your phone do one and see what it did then do the other and post results
studacris said:
Not sure honestly....but since you're about to wipe your phone do one and see what it did then do the other and post results
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Well I tested both of them. Factory data reset (the code you listed) does the same thing as what you see if you choose it under Privacy in settings - You see a dialogue saying it will erase everything, etc. You have to click confirm a couple of times and then you see big red letters about formatting the system. It then reboots in 3e recovery briefly and installs "default apks". The phone has all apps wiped and the internal SD (the 14G) is wiped.
The only difference with the "hard" reset is you don't get the dialogue about erasing everything - it goes straight to the red letters and the result is the same.
Also, the extra files in /system/xbin are still there. Before I did the wipes above, I got the computer to briefly see the phone - if I jiggle the connector on the phone just right and don't touch it -it works (sometimes). While it was connected, I ran "unroot" from SuperOneClick 1.95 which got rid of superuser (but not the files). I then did the factory resets.
Sweet, thanks for the info.
First off, I'm a long-time iPhone user, first time Android owner.
I have an SM-G900A rooted with towelroot and I have to send it back to AT&T for a warranty concern with the front facing camera. I see some elaborate guides on how to flash back to stock. Is that necessary? Will a factory reset from recovery mode do the trick? I'd hate to attempt that first and end up with a brick.
Thanks.
It depends on what you've done with your phone.
The guides are the most complete ways to unroot and remove all traces that the phone was ever rooted. The easiest way to unroot would be to unroot from the settings in the supersu app, that you can find in the playstore. But after that you would need to re-install the supersu app, but don't run it, and then uninstall it again from phone settings. You have to do both steps to remove all traces of root. I've tried each one separate, and yes, some signs were still there. But if you modified the phone in any way, then those modifications may possibly remain.
And no, a factory reset will not remove root. All that does is wipe your userdata, but the root is inside the phone's ROM.
elgrecoFL said:
First off, I'm a long-time iPhone user, first time Android owner.
I have an SM-G900A rooted with towelroot and I have to send it back to AT&T for a warranty concern with the front facing camera. I see some elaborate guides on how to flash back to stock. Is that necessary? Will a factory reset from recovery mode do the trick? I'd hate to attempt that first and end up with a brick.
Thanks.
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The easiest way is to Odin back to stock ROM.
just follow step 1 to 4 on this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785185
it is pretty simple and straightforward and you phone will be just as you took it out of the box for the first time with no trace of root whatsoever.
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it worked!
w00t! worked perfectly. Just did steps 1-4.
shortydoggg, thank you for the guide.
eortizr, thanks for the encouragement
I have a rooted phone with twrp installed. I've never made a firmware backup before, and I am not sure what is the best way to do it.
Ideally I would want an exact copy of the .img file, So if anything happens I could restore my phone to the previous original factory image. But I am not sure if it is possible to make a complete backup like that.
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Altho I don't use TWRP but use CTR/CWM.....they are similar in that these custom recoveries (and others) offer backup of "current" firmware.
You would need to find the Official ROM for your device and flash it......except for the recovery which I assume you want to keep TWRP
Then you can reboot into TWRP and make a backup.
The backup is now a TWRP version of the original firmware.
Does that make it clearer?
2) IMHO because of upgrades, you will be better off just making TWRP backups of your current phone setup.
If you restore a made TWRP official images.....it will take you some time to do all the updates, assuming you use playstore.
good luck
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You would need to find the Official ROM for your device and flash it......
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problem is, i can't get it. even contacting the company was no help. thats why I was hoping to somehow pull it off my phone first... but seems like that isnt possible?
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I can't see what your phone is, maybe you can add it to your signature or reply.
OK now I understand why you posted....thanks for that.
Lets pretend the only thing you did to this phone was to root it and add apps
then go into either bootloader menu then factory reset......CTR offers factory reset as well .....so hopefully TWRP will as well
otherwise
or direct into factory reset
-----some phones can only do one way.....normally vol down plus power or vol down plus camera button plus power gets some devices into factory reset mode
reset for most devices won't delete all data and root.....you should do this thru your recovery option.
Howerver........please don't do this until you have done a full TWRP backup and made a change and then confirmed you can do a full restore.
Once done.....check "installed" playstore apps and uninstall any still showing......they can be installed later from the "all apps" tab
This is about the closest you will get to official firmware without the official rom......YMMV and try at own risk.
Note that some devices can be a bit touchy in factory reset mode so you may need to redo a wipe function.
good luck
I think I might have found my factory firmware.
According to my phone, my original firmware is 139.4.6.ghost_row.ACG.en.US and one of those files that I got it from here http://motofirmware.com/files/category/9-ghost/ is ACG_XT1050_4.4.2-KXA20.16-1.31_CFC_1FF.xml.zip
But I don't know how to tell for sure if they'll be a match, but its the closes I've been able to find so far.
my model is moto x, xt1050
http://motofirmware.com/files/file/128-acg-xt1050-442-kxa2016-131-cfc-1ffxmlzip/
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=5957&c=motorola_moto_x_xt1050_cdma_motorola_ghost
it looks like 442 refers to your android vesion and matches the spec page
KXA20.16-1.31 could be your build string?
see this post pls
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/index-welcome-to-motorola-moto-x-t2558785
as that user has a lot of info you may wish to post to it?
I am sure OP can offer better advice than me. good luck
Well if you just want a twrp back up of your factory firmware...make a back up of your current configuration of your device (really do this!).
Then factory reset your phone. There are many ways to do this...but it is up to you. Then go back into TWRP and make a back up of the newly reset
device. Once it is done, save that back up on your device and somewhere else...just in case. To get back to your original configuration, just use twrp
to restore the back up you made at the beginning.