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The sad state of my Nexus 7 screen...

Really disappointed - when I turned on my Nexus 7 today, I found a line of dead pixels. Immediately called customer support and they said try to reset the tablet to see if it's a firmware issue, but it still persists. Will be sending my tablet in pretty soon to have this fixed, unless you guys have any recommendations.
While this might make it sound like I'm ragging on the manufacturing, I actually love the tablet. It's extremely well built - feels great in hand, has the right heft, but is still light and extremely rigid. If any of you are on the fence about this tablet, you shouldn't. It's hands down the best deal that's out there.
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al3xx said:
Really disappointed - when I turned on my Nexus 7 today, I found a line of dead pixels. Immediately called customer support and they said try to reset the tablet to see if it's a firmware issue, but it still persists. Will be sending my tablet in pretty soon to have this fixed, unless you guys have any recommendations.
While this might make it sound like I'm ragging on the manufacturing, I actually love the tablet. It's extremely well built - feels great in hand, has the right heft, but is still light and extremely rigid. If any of you are on the fence about this tablet, you shouldn't. It's hands down the best deal that's out there.
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Is that a Pre-Production Unit?

That sucks really bad. If I receive my device and anything is wrong with it, I'll probably die. I hate when my devices aren't perfect. Also, like the last poster said, is it a pre-production unit?

al3xx said:
Really disappointed - when I turned on my Nexus 7 today, I found a line of dead pixels. Immediately called customer support and they said try to reset the tablet to see if it's a firmware issue, but it still persists. Will be sending my tablet in pretty soon to have this fixed, unless you guys have any recommendations.
While this might make it sound like I'm ragging on the manufacturing, I actually love the tablet. It's extremely well built - feels great in hand, has the right heft, but is still light and extremely rigid. If any of you are on the fence about this tablet, you shouldn't. It's hands down the best deal that's out there.
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Locklear308 said:
Is that a Pre-Production Unit?
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Yeah, thats the White IO model.

At least yours doesn't have scratches on it
Gorilla Glass my ***, I haven't even done much with it
The 3 white lines are scratches and today I saw a few more around the edges near the left side.
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WinDroidGuy said:
At least yours doesn't have scratches on it
Gorilla Glass my ***, I haven't even done much with it
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The 3 white lines are scratches and today I saw a few more around the edges near the left side.
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Not Gorilla glass, Scratch resistant Corning class. Though I don't know the difference. I know my G2 was stated to have Scratch resistant corning glass and it never got a scratch in almost 2 years now.

Cel1084 said:
Not Gorilla glass, Scratch resistant Corning class. Though I don't know the difference. I know my G2 was stated to have Scratch resistant corning glass and it never got a scratch in almost 2 years now.
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Yea, that thing haha
I'm still sad about the scratches for no real reason :/
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their are things you can do to sometimes "wake up" dead pixels. Google fix dead pixel.
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colonel187 said:
their are things you can do to sometimes "wake up" dead pixels. Google fix dead pixel.
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You're definitely right. However most stuck pixels are of a color variety, dead pixels are usually just that and are completely black. If its truly dead, it will stay blacked out regardless of any action.
I am surprised though that a line like that took that long to emerge or die off, I'd have expected them to die off in production or qa. I'm curious if the op dropped or even bumped the tab at some point.
Anyway I hope the RMA process isn't too long and that u get ur tab back soon.
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i hope the change the device for you :angel::angel:
tell as what well they replay:victory::victory:

Dead pixels can't be fixed as they are effectively 'dead'.
Stuck pixels can sometimes be corrected. I've tried on 3 different displays and am yet to witness this.
Google should swap it for you, not repair.

K1LLER HORNET said:
Dead pixels can't be fixed as they are effectively 'dead'.
Stuck pixels can sometimes be corrected. I've tried on 3 different displays and am yet to witness this.
Google should swap it for you, not repair.
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Yup. So I called ASUS and they can't even issue me an RMA because the tablet hasn't be officially released yet. I'm gonna contact Google tomorrow to see if they might be able to replace the tablet for me, really hope that's possible.
Whatever happens, I just want a functioning screen on a white Nexus 7!

al3xx said:
Yup. So I called ASUS and they can't even issue me an RMA because the tablet hasn't be officially released yet. I'm gonna contact Google tomorrow to see if they might be able to replace the tablet for me, really hope that's possible.
Whatever happens, I just want a functioning screen on a white Nexus 7!
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The io nexus 7 has Bluetooth 2.1 the black version has 4 or 3. And some other changed specs. I would think about upgrading to the black one
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al3xx said:
Yup. So I called ASUS and they can't even issue me an RMA because the tablet hasn't be officially released yet. I'm gonna contact Google tomorrow to see if they might be able to replace the tablet for me, really hope that's possible.
Whatever happens, I just want a functioning screen on a white Nexus 7!
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You probably won't be able to get another IO model.

Based on the teardown video u can just swap the backing if they let you keep your current model until you get the replacement.
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Sorry to hear about the dead pixels. Have you tried any of the "dead pixel fixer" apps? Such as Display Tester

Screen size of galaxy nexus vs nexus 7.
I made this diagram for another thread on here.
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By the look of the picture, the pixels on the LCD itself might not be dead. It could be the LCD driving controller, or one of the electrical connectors have failed since all pixels are connected in rows on the X-Y plane. The electrical connection on that particular row may have failed, so you see a complete row of dead pixels.

There were screen quality issues with the transformer prime and the tranformer when they were released. I was hoping ASUS got their QC figured out by now or Google made them have a higher threshold during QC for holding them back. I am hoping I don't need to go through 3 of these like I did with my prime due to screen issues like stuck pixels, dust under the screen or white spots.

My IO N7 screen started to separate from the bezel on the left side and the white back started discoloring into blue/black.
I hope the production units are build better.

LCD screen door effect?

Anyone noticing a screen door effect with their LCD screen? Mine definitely has it, wondering if this is normal. My last two phones have been AMOLED, so I'm not sure.

Do you mean like this?
Nexus 4 has a pattern on the display.
(I'm trying to consolidate all these threads as more and more people finally get their hands on the phone)

crachel said:
Do you mean like this?
Nexus 4 has a pattern on the display.
(I'm trying to consolidate all these threads as more and more people finally get their hands on the phone)
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No, it's not dots like the digitizer. It's very fine horizontal and vertical lines like seen on some cheap TN panel monitors.
Unfortunately it's so fine I doubt I could capture it with a picture. But it seems to detract from the sharpness of the screen.

Guessing it's just me. I assume if I think my Galaxy Nexus screen looks better than the Nexus 4, then I probably got a defective Nexus 4. RMA time it seems.
I'm cursed. Had to RMA my Galaxy Nexus a couple times because of the purple effect. My Nexus 7 because of the lifted glass, now this. Ugh.

If I look close, I can make out a very slight screen door effect at times. I'm guessing all of them have this to some extent, but maybe it's worse on yours if it's so noticeable as to bother you.

Ravynmagi said:
No, it's not dots like the digitizer. It's very fine horizontal and vertical lines like seen on some cheap TN panel monitors.
Unfortunately it's so fine I doubt I could capture it with a picture. But it seems to detract from the sharpness of the screen.
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I've noticed it.... Thought I was the only one loll
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Is it as bad as the pentile screens like gs3 or note?
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Can't see it at all on mine, although I'm coming from a 50 dollar cheapo Optimus V so this thing just looks incredible no matter what lol
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Well good news for me, I no longer see this issue on my screen. It seems to have cleared up and it looks sharp and clear now. *Whew* I'm happy and love the screen.

Ravynmagi said:
Well good news for me, I no longer see this issue on my screen. It seems to have cleared up and it looks sharp and clear now. *Whew* I'm happy and love the screen.
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I can definitely see it on mine, grays make it pop out more. It's not too bad to warrant the hassle of trying an exchange, though.
Not sure why it would clear up by itself, but if it does I am not gonna mind it

My LG thrill has that, and so does the HTC inspire.
Its normal I guess

johannt said:
Is it as bad as the pentile screens like gs3 or note?
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No way, not even close to as bad as pentile.

I also see these vertical lines. Been driving me crazy when I focus on them. No worries though. Great phone.
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trent25 said:
I can definitely see it on mine, grays make it pop out more. It's not too bad to warrant the hassle of trying an exchange, though.
Not sure why it would clear up by itself, but if it does I am not gonna mind it
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You are right, it didn't. I think after using a while, I started seeing past it. Then I was messing around with my Galaxy Nexus and tablet. Then went back to the phone and I can notice those lines again.
It also depends on what I'm looking at. It really stands out looking at the XDA forums, on the brown colors (I'm using the XDA 2010 theme).

Anyone else notice this?

Has anyone noticed that the digitizer (or what I think is the digitizer) in the Nexus 7 is actually visible? I noticed this yesterday when I was at a Christmas party and the room was brightly lit. I was looking at the screen while it was off, and noticed a grid of small dots covering the entire screen. I checked on my phone (Nexus S 4G) and no such grid was visible. I thought the digitizer was only visible (and even then, only sometimes) on resistive touch screens. Hmm...

i tried to replicate it and couldnt, maybe the light wasnt bright enough. Would be intreresting tho

this is true of a HUGE number of phones. It has a lot to do with the digitizer technology used as well as how close the digi is to the lcd and the light in the room and several other minor factors. look at an HD2 and youll see it too.

I can see the digitiser on my HOX too. I've not noticed it so much on my other devices. Maybe its more obvious when the glass is bonded to the screen as it is in both of these? How about the newer devices with the touch layer integrated with the screen? It's certainly not an issue in use for me thorough (the fact that the screen gets so sticky with use on my n7 is fairly annoying though. Sector Strike is much easier on the HOX, the oleophobic coating must be pretty effective, even if the screen still looks greasy after use)

Yeah its common. My inspire has it as well. Think its called the pentile matrix.
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Yeah, shine a lamp on it with the screen off if you want to see it. Same on the Transformer Infinity, though a it's different pattern.

My SGS3 doesn't have it, that's why I was like wtf when I noticed in on my N7.
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yeap sadly when that cracks its all over

Only newer nexus 7 model has it, my launch model didn't have them.
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Gizmoe said:
Yeah its common. My inspire has it as well. Think its called the pentile matrix.
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Sorry, pentile has nothing to do with the digitizer. Pentile is a type of arrangement of the subpixels on some displays.
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magui43212 said:
Sorry, pentile has nothing to do with the digitizer. Pentile is a type of arrangement of the subpixels on some displays.
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Ahh. Never really knew for sure what that term refers to exactly. I have a know it all Co worker who called it that but never actually looked it up.
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Why other devices touch screen devices, dont have this? or have it but not obviously visible?

arczangel said:
Why other devices touch screen devices, dont have this? or have it but not obviously visible?
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Its only the first series. The newer nexus 7 don't have this problem. I ordered both of mine off play store a month ago and neither have that issue. Stores still have old stock.
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Sebianoti said:
Only newer nexus 7 model has it, my launch model didn't have them.
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Gizmoe said:
Its only the first series. The newer nexus 7 don't have this problem. I ordered both of mine off play store a month ago and neither have that issue. Stores still have old stock.
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Slightly confused here, but it seems like you got the older stock, Gizmoe?
Only got mine today, and I can see the digitizer very easily, in the right conditions. I did get mine from ebay though (BNIB), so who knows :/
Is there any other way to find out what model we have?

Those little dots are actually connected by really thin lines forming an offset square pattern (you can actually see it in the right conditions), that's what a digitizer uses to register input. Every capacitive display i've seen has that. It's more visible if you look at a slight angle from the side of the screen with the light shining from the opposite direction.
The dots are more visible because they reflect more light, but in really bright light you can see the lines also.

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Slightly confused here, but it seems like you got the older stock, Gizmoe?
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Yes I see what's confusing. I meant the other response for a different post and only realized it after you pointed it out. I was referring to the floating screen not the dots. Wrong thread. I do not see dots on mine though, although on my inspire they are very easily noticeable.
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I've noticed a pattern on every single capacitive device I've used. Palm pixi, GS3, NS4G, N7, square iPod nano, iPod Touch and iPhone all have had it. So I'm pretty sure it there on every single screen you just have to get the right angle of the screen with the light for it to be visible.
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Hey Guys. Is this the same as seeing several horizontal lines if you tilt the screen? Is that what you call a digitzer?

Bought one a couple of weeks ago and I can see it too when the screen is dark, the full pattern across the screen. Can also see a white glow on the right side of the screen when booting when the screen is dark, not sure if that's a screen problem though..

Nexus 4 - Pattern on screen

Hey, I have read many threads but none explained if this is an issue or what. I found that someone call this digitizer, but digitizer is normally a lot different. Only thread with picture was on Android Central (I added is as extension. my own picture would look the same). The position matches position where digitizer is normally, but it has just weird pattern. Thanks for answer

adsamcik said:
Hey, I have read many threads but none explained if this is an issue or what. I found that someone call this digitizer, but digitizer is normally a lot different. Only thread with picture was on Android Central (I added is as extension. my own picture would look the same). The position matches position where digitizer is normally, but it has just weird pattern. Thanks for answer
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ALIENS ARE COMMUNICATING WITH YOU THIS WAY. They got bored with crop plants and use screens instead
Sorry, I couldn't help you as I don't know, but couldn't resist
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hehe

i myself never understood this. even my display looks same when off. and my frds say why your phone has so many boxes. And I tell them it's to store the pixels in standby mode.
Jokes apart, are all nexus screens like this? I've never seen any other phone to have such display

Mine has this too. It is the digitizer. Also read some threads that they RMA'd the device and got a new one. Bit too much hassle for something that I cant see when the screen is on.
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I have this too, I thought it was because it's normal for an IPS screen. Is it normal, do you guys have it too??
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I got this too. I thought it was normal.
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Completely normal. Carry on.

My first N4 didn't have this, but after doing an RMA the replacement did. They may have started using a different digitizer or something. Another interesting thing is that my replacement device doesn't seem to have much of an oleophobic coating either.
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On older nexus phones (without nipples on the back) dont have digitizer visible. On models with nipples and onwards its visible like hell. No idea why, different implementation or.. Conspiracy
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alen1901 said:
On older nexus phones (without nipples on the back) dont have digitizer visible. On models with nipples and onwards its visible like hell. No idea why, different implementation or.. Conspiracy
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I beg to differ. I ordered mine on release. I can see the dots and the squares. Always could.

estallings15 said:
I beg to differ. I ordered mine on release. I can see the dots and the squares. Always could.
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Its visible but not that much and other digitizers consist of dots not patterns like this
Thanks for your addins. It seems its normal for Nexus 4, but no other phone I saw out there doesn't have it. Its not that big deal as stripes on screen (AMOLED) I had on my previous phone.

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Its visible but not that much and other digitizers consist of dots not patterns like this
Thanks for your addins. It seems its normal for Nexus 4, but no other phone I saw out there doesn't have it. Its not that big deal as stripes on screen (AMOLED) I had on my previous phone.
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I can see both, the dots and this pattern on my device (on strong sunlight).

Only time I can see mine is if I lock the screen and angle it under light... even then its hard to tell...

Same here-i just received my Nexus 4 3 days ago and I immediately noticed the pattern( I used to have the Galaxy Nexus). It is most visible at sunlight in an angle with the screen off. I figured it was normal...I understand now that almost everyone has it...

My first N4 had no visible screen pattern, although in daylight I could see the dot matrix, wasn't a big deal though. However, I recently RMA'd due to a vaulty earpiece and my new N4 has the same pattern in the OP. Very annoying, visible when the phone's off but can also be seen, on occasion, when the phone's on. I don't know if my OCD will last much longer...I'm fighting the urge to RMA again.
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[Q] Screen in cold weather?

Hey guys, so I got my Pebble a few days ago and I noticed when driving in the car that there was purple "wrinkles" all over the screen. I turned off the pebble and sure enough they were still there. I took a picture http://imgur.com/OAp5D31
So, once I got inside the house I noticed it disappeared for the most part. I can still see it if I look at the screen from the side but not if I was looking at it head on. I figured it might have to do something with temperature because it was fairly cold in the car. Has this happened to anyone? I'm fine if this is normal, but if this is a defect I would definitely want to exchange it for another one.

I have definitely seen the "wrinkles" you're describing. I'll try to make sure I look at them next time I walk the dog and report back.
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Spaniard85 said:
I have definitely seen the "wrinkles" you're describing. I'll try to make sure I look at them next time I walk the dog and report back.
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Thanks, I'm sitting in a warm room and they seem to be mostly gone. If I tilt the watch though and look at it horizontally I do see like a "wrinkled frame" around the screen. Would you be able to look at it from the same angle and tell me if you get the same thing?

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Thanks, I'm sitting in a warm room and they seem to be mostly gone. If I tilt the watch though and look at it horizontally I do see like a "wrinkled frame" around the screen. Would you be able to look at it from the same angle and tell me if you get the same thing?
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Definitely do, and always have. I believe it's something that all Pebbles experience due to the type of screen.
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Spaniard85 said:
Definitely do, and always have. I believe it's something that all Pebbles experience due to the type of screen.
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This is the nature of the screen even though they don't say it's lcd, it seems like these type of screens ha very this effect.
Typically seen on lcd watches and calculator screen.
Normal finding.
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Thanks a lot guys. I just wanted to make sure I didn't have a defective unit and have the screen stop working on me later on when it would be too late to exchange/return.

I think there is a polarizing film to add contrast that shows the waves in certain light
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I see that when I look at my watch through my polarized sunglasses.. in 65 degree weather. Strange..

I have the new Oakley red based polarized lenses and can't read it at all, but the older gray based I can
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I sure see that on my screen too, but not necessarily in cold weather only, here in India in my city, the coldest it gets is 15-16degree Celsius which is 60degree farenheit... Also, my screen is a little yellow-ish at the bottom. Anybody notice that?

I have actually had the same thing. I originally saw it when wearing my polarized Oakley's but I thought if was just the lenses. I actually can barely see my Nexus 5 screen with them on as well.
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Its funny their new red based polarized lenses are supposed to be better with polarized LCD screens..I can see my phone better with the new ones but the pebble not so much
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My Pebble was the same but I notice that this only happen when you use a white watch face, now I use a dark watch face and the problem is gone. Maybe you guys can try that trick.
Good luck.