Hey guys, so I got my Pebble a few days ago and I noticed when driving in the car that there was purple "wrinkles" all over the screen. I turned off the pebble and sure enough they were still there. I took a picture http://imgur.com/OAp5D31
So, once I got inside the house I noticed it disappeared for the most part. I can still see it if I look at the screen from the side but not if I was looking at it head on. I figured it might have to do something with temperature because it was fairly cold in the car. Has this happened to anyone? I'm fine if this is normal, but if this is a defect I would definitely want to exchange it for another one.
I have definitely seen the "wrinkles" you're describing. I'll try to make sure I look at them next time I walk the dog and report back.
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Spaniard85 said:
I have definitely seen the "wrinkles" you're describing. I'll try to make sure I look at them next time I walk the dog and report back.
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Thanks, I'm sitting in a warm room and they seem to be mostly gone. If I tilt the watch though and look at it horizontally I do see like a "wrinkled frame" around the screen. Would you be able to look at it from the same angle and tell me if you get the same thing?
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Thanks, I'm sitting in a warm room and they seem to be mostly gone. If I tilt the watch though and look at it horizontally I do see like a "wrinkled frame" around the screen. Would you be able to look at it from the same angle and tell me if you get the same thing?
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Definitely do, and always have. I believe it's something that all Pebbles experience due to the type of screen.
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Definitely do, and always have. I believe it's something that all Pebbles experience due to the type of screen.
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This is the nature of the screen even though they don't say it's lcd, it seems like these type of screens ha very this effect.
Typically seen on lcd watches and calculator screen.
Normal finding.
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Thanks a lot guys. I just wanted to make sure I didn't have a defective unit and have the screen stop working on me later on when it would be too late to exchange/return.
I think there is a polarizing film to add contrast that shows the waves in certain light
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I see that when I look at my watch through my polarized sunglasses.. in 65 degree weather. Strange..
I have the new Oakley red based polarized lenses and can't read it at all, but the older gray based I can
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I sure see that on my screen too, but not necessarily in cold weather only, here in India in my city, the coldest it gets is 15-16degree Celsius which is 60degree farenheit... Also, my screen is a little yellow-ish at the bottom. Anybody notice that?
I have actually had the same thing. I originally saw it when wearing my polarized Oakley's but I thought if was just the lenses. I actually can barely see my Nexus 5 screen with them on as well.
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Its funny their new red based polarized lenses are supposed to be better with polarized LCD screens..I can see my phone better with the new ones but the pebble not so much
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My Pebble was the same but I notice that this only happen when you use a white watch face, now I use a dark watch face and the problem is gone. Maybe you guys can try that trick.
Good luck.
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My plan was to add the 7 to my array of GPS devices, mostly to get traffic info. bought a windshield mount intended for landscape use, which is how I want to use it. Put it in the mount, fired up Maps and started to drive away and the screen was suddenly off... hit the button, but nothing... hit the button again and it came back on. Started to leave again and screen went off again (way sooner than it is set to).
Pulled over, took off my sunglasses and instantly it was back on.... hmmm. Apparently, something that is not mentioned in any review or specification that I saw... the friggin' screen is POLARIZED! As are all my sunglasses.
If you are planning to use in landscape mode in the sun, be prepared to not be able to wear polarized sunglasses.
I still am really liking my new 7, but not luvin' it as much as I planned on.
I think that's the case with polarized glasses and all LCD screens isn't it?
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I think that's the case with polarized glasses and all LCD screens isn't it?
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I've been trying to remember if I have ever tried looking at any of my phones in landscape while wearing sunglasses. Will check tomorrow.
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I think that's the case with polarized glasses and all LCD screens isn't it?
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Exactly. This is a notorious problem with any LCD screen. My Nook Color gets blacked out in portrait and my Nexus 7 gets blacked out in landscape. It's a problem that's common and not Google's or Asus's fault. You'll just have to deal with it. Most Navigation apps I found use portrait by default anyway.
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It's your sunglasses, not the nexus 7. Get some cheaper sunglasses .
Well, you may try portrait mode or just use a navi app with voice navigation.
It seems not only for Nexus 7's LCD, a lot of other LCDs are encountering the same problem with sunglasses.
This is the case with all LCD screens and polarized sunglasses. Had a pilot new to an aircraft with LCD screens complain that the screens were broken. When I looked everything was perfect. I looked at him to see if he was trying to be funny, then realized that he still had his sunglasses on. I asked if they were polarized then told him to take them off a second. Sure enough, problem solved.
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db1911 said:
This is the case with all LCD screens and polarized sunglasses. Had a pilot new to an aircraft with LCD screens complain that the screens were broken. When I looked everything was perfect. I looked at him to see if he was trying to be funny, then realized that he still had his sunglasses on. I asked if they were polarized then told him to take them off a second. Sure enough, problem solved.
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Yes I noticed that! No big deal for me though, thankfully. I know for a fact it didn't happen on my Transformer Prime or Wildfire S. In fact, I've never noticed it with any of my tablets or phones. Weird though how it's only landscape mode
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I think that's the case with polarized glasses and all LCD screens isn't it?
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Ips slcd/slcdII's .... Yep.
jaycustom said:
Weird though how it's only landscape mode
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No, not weird at all. Think about what a polarizing lens does - it's like a million microscopic parallel lines running one direction. When you have 2 lenses (screen and sunglasses), rotating one or the other so the lines are perpendicular to each other causes the image to black out. If the lines are all running in the same direction, there's no interference.
This really doesn't have anything to do with Navigation on the device
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This really doesn't have anything to do with Navigation on the device
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It does if you are planning on using during the day and wear polarized sunglasses and want to use in landscape mode. I didn't want to try to put all that in title.
When I get my Proclip holder when they come out, I will be able to use in portrait. The generic cheapee holder I got to use in meantime is only usable in landscape.
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I've been trying to remember if I have ever tried looking at any of my phones in landscape while wearing sunglasses. Will check tomorrow.
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I tried with my Droid Bionic today and it does NOT go blank when turned, so it must NOT be polarized.
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I tried with my Droid Bionic today and it does NOT go blank when turned, so it must NOT be polarized.
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Droid Bionic uses a Pentile SAMOLED screen. More info on the difference here:
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/difference-between-lcd-and-led.htm
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I never buy polarized sunglasses. They are so annoying, especially if you rid motorcycles and use a full face helmet. Even in a car, the dash is plastic and in some cars you get a rainbow effect. If you buy decent sunglasses, you don't need them to be polarized. I use Sergenti drivers and they are the best for me.
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I never buy polarized sunglasses. They are so annoying, especially if you rid motorcycles and use a full face helmet. Even in a car, the dash is plastic and in some cars you get a rainbow effect. If you buy decent sunglasses, you don't need them to be polarized. I use Sergenti drivers and they are the best for me.
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This^
I only wear polarized sunglasses when protecting my eyes from water glare. Many cars have ploarized windows that look blotchy when wearing Polarized sunglasses. I never wear them when riding my motorcycle because they can block puddles of water and pot holes from being seen in the road. I can't see the radio display in the car when wearing them either.
Get another pair of glasses with good coatings.
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I never buy polarized sunglasses. They are so annoying, especially if you rid motorcycles and use a full face helmet. Even in a car, the dash is plastic and in some cars you get a rainbow effect. If you buy decent sunglasses, you don't need them to be polarized. I use Sergenti drivers and they are the best for me.
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Hadn't thought to try my Serengeti's, THANKS. they are NOT polarized and will go back to being my primary pair.
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I saw this brought up in this forum previously and in other forums, with polarized glasses being an issue. I wear a pair of polarized glasses while driving almost every day. I also use the nexus 7 almost exclusively in my car, and its always locked in landscape mode. I haven't had any issues with being able to use it or seeing the screen in any app. Everything seems to display fine for me?
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I saw this brought up in this forum previously and in other forums, with polarized glasses being an issue. I wear a pair of polarized glasses while driving almost every day. I also use the nexus 7 almost exclusively in my car, and its always locked in landscape mode. I haven't had any issues with being able to use it or seeing the screen in any app. Everything seems to display fine for me?
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I am skeptical that your sunglasses are actually polarized...
It's not that the screen is polarized exactly. All LCD screens just use a filter that allows light to go through in one direction. I'm pretty sure that's how you create black on a LCD, it will shift and no light escapes. The back light of an LCD is always on.
You could try turning the Nexus 7 upside down to what direction you had it. That will probably let you see the screen. It may be a little darker than normal though. I like polarized sunglasses for day driving because it stops glare so well and the glare kills my eyes. I never had problems not seeing potholes or puddles though...
Anyone noticing a screen door effect with their LCD screen? Mine definitely has it, wondering if this is normal. My last two phones have been AMOLED, so I'm not sure.
Do you mean like this?
Nexus 4 has a pattern on the display.
(I'm trying to consolidate all these threads as more and more people finally get their hands on the phone)
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Do you mean like this?
Nexus 4 has a pattern on the display.
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No, it's not dots like the digitizer. It's very fine horizontal and vertical lines like seen on some cheap TN panel monitors.
Unfortunately it's so fine I doubt I could capture it with a picture. But it seems to detract from the sharpness of the screen.
Guessing it's just me. I assume if I think my Galaxy Nexus screen looks better than the Nexus 4, then I probably got a defective Nexus 4. RMA time it seems.
I'm cursed. Had to RMA my Galaxy Nexus a couple times because of the purple effect. My Nexus 7 because of the lifted glass, now this. Ugh.
If I look close, I can make out a very slight screen door effect at times. I'm guessing all of them have this to some extent, but maybe it's worse on yours if it's so noticeable as to bother you.
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No, it's not dots like the digitizer. It's very fine horizontal and vertical lines like seen on some cheap TN panel monitors.
Unfortunately it's so fine I doubt I could capture it with a picture. But it seems to detract from the sharpness of the screen.
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I've noticed it.... Thought I was the only one loll
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Is it as bad as the pentile screens like gs3 or note?
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Can't see it at all on mine, although I'm coming from a 50 dollar cheapo Optimus V so this thing just looks incredible no matter what lol
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Well good news for me, I no longer see this issue on my screen. It seems to have cleared up and it looks sharp and clear now. *Whew* I'm happy and love the screen.
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Well good news for me, I no longer see this issue on my screen. It seems to have cleared up and it looks sharp and clear now. *Whew* I'm happy and love the screen.
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I can definitely see it on mine, grays make it pop out more. It's not too bad to warrant the hassle of trying an exchange, though.
Not sure why it would clear up by itself, but if it does I am not gonna mind it
My LG thrill has that, and so does the HTC inspire.
Its normal I guess
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Is it as bad as the pentile screens like gs3 or note?
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No way, not even close to as bad as pentile.
I also see these vertical lines. Been driving me crazy when I focus on them. No worries though. Great phone.
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I can definitely see it on mine, grays make it pop out more. It's not too bad to warrant the hassle of trying an exchange, though.
Not sure why it would clear up by itself, but if it does I am not gonna mind it
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You are right, it didn't. I think after using a while, I started seeing past it. Then I was messing around with my Galaxy Nexus and tablet. Then went back to the phone and I can notice those lines again.
It also depends on what I'm looking at. It really stands out looking at the XDA forums, on the brown colors (I'm using the XDA 2010 theme).
Has anyone noticed that the digitizer (or what I think is the digitizer) in the Nexus 7 is actually visible? I noticed this yesterday when I was at a Christmas party and the room was brightly lit. I was looking at the screen while it was off, and noticed a grid of small dots covering the entire screen. I checked on my phone (Nexus S 4G) and no such grid was visible. I thought the digitizer was only visible (and even then, only sometimes) on resistive touch screens. Hmm...
i tried to replicate it and couldnt, maybe the light wasnt bright enough. Would be intreresting tho
this is true of a HUGE number of phones. It has a lot to do with the digitizer technology used as well as how close the digi is to the lcd and the light in the room and several other minor factors. look at an HD2 and youll see it too.
I can see the digitiser on my HOX too. I've not noticed it so much on my other devices. Maybe its more obvious when the glass is bonded to the screen as it is in both of these? How about the newer devices with the touch layer integrated with the screen? It's certainly not an issue in use for me thorough (the fact that the screen gets so sticky with use on my n7 is fairly annoying though. Sector Strike is much easier on the HOX, the oleophobic coating must be pretty effective, even if the screen still looks greasy after use)
Yeah its common. My inspire has it as well. Think its called the pentile matrix.
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Yeah, shine a lamp on it with the screen off if you want to see it. Same on the Transformer Infinity, though a it's different pattern.
My SGS3 doesn't have it, that's why I was like wtf when I noticed in on my N7.
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yeap sadly when that cracks its all over
Only newer nexus 7 model has it, my launch model didn't have them.
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Yeah its common. My inspire has it as well. Think its called the pentile matrix.
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Sorry, pentile has nothing to do with the digitizer. Pentile is a type of arrangement of the subpixels on some displays.
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Sorry, pentile has nothing to do with the digitizer. Pentile is a type of arrangement of the subpixels on some displays.
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Ahh. Never really knew for sure what that term refers to exactly. I have a know it all Co worker who called it that but never actually looked it up.
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Why other devices touch screen devices, dont have this? or have it but not obviously visible?
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Why other devices touch screen devices, dont have this? or have it but not obviously visible?
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Its only the first series. The newer nexus 7 don't have this problem. I ordered both of mine off play store a month ago and neither have that issue. Stores still have old stock.
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Only newer nexus 7 model has it, my launch model didn't have them.
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Its only the first series. The newer nexus 7 don't have this problem. I ordered both of mine off play store a month ago and neither have that issue. Stores still have old stock.
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Slightly confused here, but it seems like you got the older stock, Gizmoe?
Only got mine today, and I can see the digitizer very easily, in the right conditions. I did get mine from ebay though (BNIB), so who knows :/
Is there any other way to find out what model we have?
Those little dots are actually connected by really thin lines forming an offset square pattern (you can actually see it in the right conditions), that's what a digitizer uses to register input. Every capacitive display i've seen has that. It's more visible if you look at a slight angle from the side of the screen with the light shining from the opposite direction.
The dots are more visible because they reflect more light, but in really bright light you can see the lines also.
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Slightly confused here, but it seems like you got the older stock, Gizmoe?
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Yes I see what's confusing. I meant the other response for a different post and only realized it after you pointed it out. I was referring to the floating screen not the dots. Wrong thread. I do not see dots on mine though, although on my inspire they are very easily noticeable.
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I've noticed a pattern on every single capacitive device I've used. Palm pixi, GS3, NS4G, N7, square iPod nano, iPod Touch and iPhone all have had it. So I'm pretty sure it there on every single screen you just have to get the right angle of the screen with the light for it to be visible.
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Hey Guys. Is this the same as seeing several horizontal lines if you tilt the screen? Is that what you call a digitzer?
Bought one a couple of weeks ago and I can see it too when the screen is dark, the full pattern across the screen. Can also see a white glow on the right side of the screen when booting when the screen is dark, not sure if that's a screen problem though..
Hey there,
I just noticed that on my 2 day old HTC One (FA35FW9#####, HTC_E11) has strange horizontal line on the screen. Even when it's turned off. It's visible on dark colours (black) when the screen is on. It's annoying. I tried to take a picture of it, but i don't have a lens that will focus on it. It looks like a solar panel of sorts.
Am I the only one that has this weird hardware issue, or is it well known?
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Hey there,
I just noticed that on my 2 day old HTC One (FA35FW9#####, HTC_E11) has strange horizontal line on the screen. Even when it's turned off. It's visible on dark colours (black) when the screen is on. It's annoying. I tried to take a picture of it, but i don't have a lens that will focus on it. It looks like a solar panel of sorts.
Am I the only one that has this weird hardware issue, or is it well known?
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Mine definitely has this, I didn't notice it until today outside in the sun. I don't see it at all when the screen is on though.
Hi,
I also see this on my HTC One grid when the display is lit on a black background and there is sun. Is it normal, everyone does it ? Or is it a fault and should it change ?
It's on mine as well...can see it under a very bright light...but not normal conditions...... Think it's the digitizer !???
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I believe it is, I have smaller ones on the hox to....
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I think its just the screen. I get it under sunlight when the screen is black. Little annoying but i'll live Anyone else with this?
I find they look more like blocks though...
Do a quick search of the forums. There's MANY of this exact topic, and all have been resolved.
It is the digitizer by BTW...
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Hi,
Thank you for your answers. So what is normal ?
Because I saw two other HTC One grid and it was much less visible than on mine, we only see screen off when the mine can be seen when the screen is turned on if the sun on the screen.
Do you think he should return it under warranty ?
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Hi,
Thank you for your answers. So what is normal ?
Because I saw two other HTC One grid and it was much less visible than on mine, we only see screen off when the mine can be seen when the screen is turned on if the sun on the screen.
Do you think he should return it under warranty ?
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Apparently the screens made by sharp have more visible lines than the ones made by JDI, but there's no way to know which is which without running an app to retrieve the information (or maybe viewing the screen under sunlight ). I can see the lines on mine but since I don't look at the screen when it's off I don't really care about them. You'll never find one where the digitizer is invisible, and buying a One is gambling on getting a good one vs build quality issues, so if that's all that's wrong I'd just hold on to it if I were you.
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Horizontal lines approx 2mm apart are visible on mine too when screen is off...Noticed after 3 days i got it and was not sure if m i the only one who got it, untill i found this thread. I dont mind those lines if they are there, but it doesn't call for alarm right??
Same
I've had this on two HTC Ones, so I think its normal. I also found that its only really visible when the screen is off.
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I've had this on two HTC Ones, so I think its normal. I also found that its only really visible when the screen is off.
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Same here. Maybe because the pixel technology... Someone better in techs can say maybe.
Also if am right there is same question and discussion about that.
Cheers
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Just the digitiser in the screen. It is visible on all HTC Ones but, as said previously, a little easier to see on the Sharp panels.
Nothing to worry about.
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Yeah i just noticed mine today when i was outside in the sun... :/
I just noticed this on my way to work this morning, now I can see it almost all the time whenever the screen is off or has a dark backround, for example I see it with the phone laying flat on my desk directly in front of me, what I would consider a normal viewing angle with the screen off or on with a dark background.
my phone is only 11 days old should I contact my carrier regarding this??, its kind of annoying.
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I just noticed this on my way to work this morning, now I can see it almost all the time whenever the screen is off or has a dark backround, for example I see it with the phone laying flat on my desk directly in front of me, what I would consider a normal viewing angle with the screen off or on with a dark background.
my phone is only 11 days old should I contact my carrier regarding this??, its kind of annoying.
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No, it's normal and not annoying. You shouldn't be able to see it if you're looking directly at the phone.
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No, it's normal and not annoying. You shouldn't be able to see it if you're looking directly at the phone.
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Thanks for the reply, it does bug me a bit like but I guess I could live with it.
It is quite easily noticible from slight angles but not if I am looking at phone straight on. I have a couple of friends with the same phone, I will check theirs to see how visible it is on their handsets.
Want to get even more irritated with it? Pull up a white background, like in the text message app, stare really intensely at it, and you can see the lines very faintly and what appears to be a texture similar to cloth, not a smooth-like-paint texture that would be ideal.
Once you notice it, you'll always see it. Lol. Have a nice day!
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Want to get even more irritated with it? Pull up a white background, like in the text message app, stare really intensely at it, and you can see the lines very faintly and what appears to be a texture similar to cloth, not a smooth-like-paint texture that would be ideal.
Once you notice it, you'll always see it. Lol. Have a nice day!
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OMG you bastard! :laugh:
I just noticed that my ps vita also has these lines, but it's a grid instead of just horizontal lines. Different screen tech but similar digitizer I suppose. I chuckled a bit when I saw it for the first time
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Don't know if its only mine but sometimes i notice whatever watch face is not always centered on the screen. It seems that it only happens when screen is dimmed. Happens on preloaded watch faces as well.
Anybody notice this?
Happens to mine too.
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Yeah, it annoys me at times. Not sure if its the watchface or the clock part of wear itself. Hopefully once they update with full watchface support it will be fixed
Thanks for the answers guys. I love the watch its just one of those things.
Is there any way of knowing when these updates come out? Just got mine less than a month ago.
Pretty sure this happens intentionally, to keep the amoled screen from burning in, since it has to be on all the time.
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Pretty sure this happens intentionally, to keep the amoled screen from burning in, since it has to be on all the time.
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I completely agree...I noticed it and was thankful that I won't be getting any burn in!
On another note saw that an update is coming. Has hit the g watches already
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Pretty sure this happens intentionally, to keep the amoled screen from burning in, since it has to be on all the time.
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This guy is correct. Samsung did that on purpose to prevent horrid screen burn in which would happen very quickly if the clock was ALWAYS in the same position!