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Just about a hour ago I received "push" notification about update available for my Bell XT860 4G. Installed it - got Android version 2.3.6, system version 5.2.476.XT860.BellMobility.en.CA.
I am now checking to see if bugs I've experienced have been resolved. It is too early to say for now, but I will update the thread once I gather more stats.
Awesome! I didn't think you stayed on stock...
Will we be able to get an SBF our of the update? If all the issues are resolved I'd wanna flip back to the Bell official f/w
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Update wasn't complete firmware for sure as it downloaded relatively fast (I didn't pay attention of the size - accidentally pressed update now). I am afraid SBF situation for us with Bell phones, remains unchanged.
Yeah - I say stock with this one. There's not much bloat if at all compared to what Verizon does on their phones, plus I am one of the few who likes blur Though, I have to admit it was really difficult not to follow my own rules not to "sway off the light side" if aint way back.. Glad now I resisted
Too bad no update will ever fix the crappy display or the abysmal amount of RAM for this generation of phones Motorola opted in.. /end rant!
Anybody knows if we need to unroot before the update ?
Also, does any changes to the system partition will prevent the update from installing ?
Do I need to restore "frozen" APKs from Titanium ?
I'm kind of excited for this...
How do we pull the update files from the phone memory ?
Can't seem to get the update from the system menu....
So many questions !!!
Did they patch the root vulnerability, or are you using rootkeeper
xt860, android 2.3.5, Eclipse 1.1.1
Haven't got the update notification yet, but I was wondering if any of my questions would have an impact on the updating process.
Couple of updates on my findings yet:
1) power drain after using the car dock has been resolved
2) auto brightness not restoring back to normal when undock from media station/stand is fixed too
3) keyboard auto-repeat bug seems to be resolved too (I have not experienced it since the update and I was quite a bit before!)
4) cell standby no longer at the top of power use stats, but I can't comment on battery life until at least couple of days of use. Looks quite promising though!
5) receiving SMS while docked in car dock does not crash anymore - screen offering you to read/reply - you can listen to the message and reply back using voice commands. Before the update, whenever I received SMS I get a message to force close a process which died.
6) camera makes significantly better shots color wise. Images are still "noisy" though. I don't find camera any faster than before. It also shows some ill effects - every now and then (say 1 out of 5-6 times) camera crashes upon taking a pic - no force close - just exit to home screen and picture being taken at the time of crash does not get saved. Still better than Avatar-like looking people..
7) connected music player app has been revamped. Color scheme now matches the rest of the interface. Playback windows has been optimized for landscape use.
8) MotoPrint has been updated too - now available on market actually. Supported any printer I threw on it (and we have plenty of different variety at the office).
So far I am VERY impressed, as the biggest hurdles have been resolved!
I just got off a 40 minute long call which consumed less than 10% battery (7% if circle battery widget is right), phone didn't get excessively hot either, I'd even say it stayed surprisingly cool during this call.
I have not noticed any improvements on download/upload speeds - they stay the same as before. For couple of days I am using ADW launcher EX (bought for 10 cents) and I really like it, I am yet to test with Motorola default launcher (where lack of RAM was most prominent).
SX86 said:
Haven't got the update notification yet, but I was wondering if any of my questions would have an impact on the updating process.
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Judging from my Droid 2 Global experience - being rooted does not fail the update process. What does, though, is if you have recovery installed (or any other alternation of a file located in /system. Since update is distributed as patch - it fails only if a file it tries to patch has been modified (which is the case if you have hijack installed to get clockwork mod working). Extra files (like su binary and superuser.apk) do not seem to disturb the update. Most definitely you must have all files in /system (no frozen/deleted stuff).
This doesn't mean Motorola have not changed the process to verify if phone is rooted (easiest thing - check for su and superuser.apk) or calculate check sum of /system partition to ensure it was not tampered with.
If you are rooted when you receive the update - you can use privileged access to pull the update file before it is installed - check in /cache for it. It is easy to spot it.
Due to the lack of SBF (and my principles) my XT860 wasn't rooted when I installed the update, so I can't confirm my findings from D2G are valid here. But I am sure it won't be long before everyone receives it.
Thanks for the reply ! Very helpful
So, should I uninstall the bootstrap ?
If I can't get the update to install, I'll try to recover an old system.img nandroid backup I did when it first came out for D3.
Anyways, thanks for the reply ! I'll let you all know how it goes once I get the OTA
SX86 said:
Thanks for the reply ! Very helpful
So, should I uninstall the bootstrap ?
If I can't get the update to install, I'll try to recover an old system.img nandroid backup I did when it first came out for D3.
Anyways, thanks for the reply ! I'll let you all know how it goes once I get the OTA
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Uninstalling the bootstrap doesn't remove the hijack. There's actually a file called hijack somewhere on your.phone you need to remove and also remove logwrapper and rename logwrapper.bin to logwrapper. I can't for the life of me remember where these are located. Also someone may wish to confirm these instructions. I've mixed it up before
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How does one go about pulling thenupdate file off the phone. Im on brazil fw but my gfs daughter has a stock xt860
xt860, android 2.3.5, Eclipse 1.1.1
I'm trying a full restore from my nandroid backup then will try to dd the initial system.img I created back in September, might throw in a titaniumbackup restore as well.. Although if all goes bad I will just go to retail SBF (that one looks way better than the vivo one, I had to load it up for a few min today). Wish me luck with it all! I did sign up for the update beta a while ago, let's see if I'm in the pool or not...
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Didn't work... I am just going to restore to brazil retail and will keep my phone like that until bell SBF comes around
Unfroze all my system apps in Titanium, update failing for me. Hope I don't have to unroot.
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Here's the update. I tried to flash it with CWM but I got an error. I'm not much of a chef so I can't figure out how to mod it to work. The link is for the unmodded version.
https://rapidshare.com/files/3968311425/Blur_Version.5.1.544.XT860.BellMobility.en.CA.zip
Nardholio, thanks for posting the zip. I'll have a look to see what was actually changed. But at 50MB or so it is a serious overhaul.
You're getting the error, because of the CWM. You need to uninstall it and restore the hijacked logwrapper. I had a post somewhere of how to do it manually, will look it up and link it here. Edit: here is it - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17333863&postcount=152 should be the same for this phone as was for D2G I believe. Be careful - if you break the logwrapper, phone will stay on M logo.
Another thing I noticed today which got some nice improvements is the connected music app. Now color scheme matches the rest of the phone and layout has been rearranged to get better use of the landscape position (when phone is docked in). Battery consumption seems really improved, but again - it is too early to report real stats on this.
2.3.6!! That's not fair!
Hehe, anyway good to see XT860 getting some support too!
I totally forgot about the camera. It was so useless before that I pretty much never used it. Now it has been updated. Starts fairly quick and pics aren't so blue/bad as before. But it crashed on me twice...
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...damn, that's rude of Bell to leapfrog my Brazilian 2.3.5
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How do you install it?
The .zip providen by leobg
Envoyé depuis mon XT860 utilisant Tapatalk
LifeInAnalog said:
...damn, that's rude of Bell to leapfrog my Brazilian 2.3.5
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At least they didn't leap to android 4. Bet you would be ****ting bricks.
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DoubleYouPee said:
2.3.6!! That's not fair!
Hehe, anyway good to see XT860 getting some support too!
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Relax my friend XT862 has a pre-alpha version of Android 4.0.1.
i changed to omnirom kitkat on my s3 a few weeks ago, and i just want to know if i should be downloading the latest versions?
thanks in advance, glenn.
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i changed to omnirom kitkat on my s3 a few weeks ago, and i just want to know if i should be downloading the latest versions?
thanks in advance, glenn.
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It would be interesting to know other people's views on this too.
Well things usually get an update to be better ^^. So i'd say always. If you look around the forum you'll see there are still some (minor?) issues left which might or might not be important for you. If you stop updating you'll also miss out on potential new features and you can't contribute by filing bug reports ect.
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I usually go on omnirom's changelog to find any patches that pertain to me. Just the other week active display was not working. I updated immediately when next active display patch came out. I also update when there is a new feature I want.
Since even minor updates often have big impact (on battery life for example) I update on every nightly. But I keep a backup in case a weird bug entered the image.
I hope the build-in flash in my S2 is not the cheapest one since Samsung itself only updated once half a year or so - so I am (at least a little, little bit) worried that it someday will be worn out. Does anybody know if this is really an issue?
I update when I'm bored and happen to remember. Maybe twice or three a week. I usually check g+, device thread, or here for any update problems, though.
there's been a handful of times where I thought "ok I'm done fooling around with my phone... I'm pleased enough," but I'll update afterwards.
I've been updating on every nightly and then there was the data/wifi issue with the s3 i9305 and since then my phone just has not worked as it should at all safe to say the next nightly I find that seems to have no data/wifi issues I'll be sitting tight on. I know my friend has a system where he updates to the second newest nightly only, never the newest that way you're always up to date eventually but you get to see the feedback about the nightly first from everyone else having used it before you flash it, thus saving the issue of flashing a nightly that stuffs up pretty bad.
Also does anyone know when flashing a nightly it's OTA, if you want to go back to the previous nightly can you just flash it and it should work? Before I was having wifi/data issues I had the nightly on my SD card, then I flashed the new nightly, got data issues so I flashed the previous nightly that worked and still had the data/wifi issues...
In my opinion, you're rolling the dice with any upgrade. A nightly is just that, whatever was up that night. It might be better, it might be worse. Thankfully the OmniROM maintainers are generally pretty good about things and I haven't yet gotten a broken build. But it will happen. Invariably the night before you really, really need your phone to be working.
A cautious approach would be to maintain recent backups and only flash when you see something come up that you know you want. I like to flash on days when there hasn't been a change for a day or two -- let someone else find out that the "latest and greatest" isn't as great as they had hoped.
Yes, flash memory has a finite lifespan. If you look at the physical device layer, you'll see it. A good physical-to-logical block management layer ("wear leveling") keeps the cells reasonably evenly used and hides the failed cells from you. It might be in the device itself (microSD cards, for example), or in the driver/filesystem. You probably don't have to worry too much about flashing on a daily basis (as far as "wear" goes) as long as your device devs have made reasonable choices on how to put files onto the hardware of your device.
Being in the time zone that I am, the nightlies usually post when I am sleeping. Each morning, I check the change logs and newest comments. If there are a lot of early problem reports I pass on the build. If things look reasonably clear I download and flash.
Usually I update once or twice a week.
Now my device (SGS2) is with nightly 06/03/2014. This nightly working so well and is so battery friendly that I will keep it for a while longer.
And now the camera already has the option to choose where to save photos and videos (internal memory or external SD card).
I'm getting really mixed reviews for the lollipop update lately. Some love it, some hate it, some haven't even gotten it. I'm just curious towards the majority of opinions for the new update. So, should we or should we not update?
For me, it was great. Everything worked fine and you get the awesomeness of Android Lollipop. I've seem some people with problems with Xposed, but I don't use that.
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For me, it was great. Everything worked fine and you get the awesomeness of Android Lollipop. I've seem some people with problems with Xposed, but I don't use that.
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Have you noticed any performance problems? Like slow menus or animations? I myself don't have the update, but that's a common problem I hear.
I tried it for short, but it was quite somewhat laggy and not as fast as I am now used to have on custom roms.
But I am interested what other users got to say
Lollipop and KitKat from LG both has terrible RAM management. I had to restart my phone every 48h to stop it from restarting my apps.
Besides that it's quite a good ROM. Very stable, bug free. Workes much faster than KitKat.
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Have you noticed any performance problems? Like slow menus or animations? I myself don't have the update, but that's a common problem I hear.
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No, to me, it's faster than kitkat, but that might be because I flashed the kdz then reset the phone. I don't use CM because video recording doesn't work.
So after rooting my l90's I noticed my OTA updated one was at least 5 times slower than my offline updated ones. This is not an exaggeration, while installing an app, I was able to remove apps on my other phone, and install the same app, before the app finally installed on the OTA updated phone. That's just the start, menus are slower and there is tons of lag. I'm not sure exactly if it's the OTA that is the issue, but all of my l90s are at most a month old, and were purchased at the same time, so I doubt it's hardware. The firmware of the ota is identical to the offline updated, although I can't definitively determine if updating over the air is the issue because I only have one phone with the OTA. That being said I have also reflashed the same firmware with the offline method onto the ota, and it has made no changes.
Hello, I hope I can post this here.. i tried, i searched... can't find any solution to my issue.
Model : SM-T810 , with Samsung 128GB UHS microSD. OS : stock Nougat from Samsung.
Here is the problem :
On the play store, if there are pending updates, they only install one at a time, and then it won't do more. Like if there is 5 pending updates, it will maybe do one, and then the other 4 stay pending. It might only do the download portion of the first one and not go to the install phase. If there's no pending updates, and i try to install an app, only the downloading portion of the process shows up, it stops after that, it doesn't go to installing. I have to close the store and go back in for it to install, but if there's a queue of downloads (updates or asked to install multiple apps), I have to close the store for the same amount of apps in the queue for them to install one by one. Now I noticed that every once and a while, 2 or 3 will have updated overnight but that's it!
I closed the process, I cleared the cache, I cleared the data, I cleared the download manager's data and cache, i rebooted, i forced a wrong date and time then set it to auto-date and time to retry, etc.... I uninstalled the Play Store updates, nothing worked!!!
The next step was to do a factory reset. I did not want to lose some progress on some games, AND I have an app to read PDF files and did not want to lose read/unread status of my files...
So I used Odin to flash TWRP, did a backup, rooted, used Titanium Backup to backup my apps.
Then I did factory reset. Store behaved normally again! Installed a few apps, waited a few hours, still good. Did a restore of my apps from titanium backup, everything seemed fine, then a few hours later, store still was not updating or installing the apps right...
Did another factory reset, store worked fine, only restored a couple of backed up apps (the critical ones that i wanted to keep the saves from), everything worked fine. Over the course of 24 hrs, i re-installed a bunch of my regular apps via the play store. Play store worked fine. I did to another Nandroid backup with TWRP just in case.
Then all of a sudden, it started to lag a bit between clicking install, to downloading, to installing. And then a few hours later, issue completely came back, store won't install without me closing it between the download finish and install.
Now one of the last steps I did before it started acting up again was moving ONE app to the SD card (not using any root features). I'm not sure if that caused the issue to come back.
I did notice that Android left a bunch of files on my SD card, some Android folder, with a bunch of subfolders.
I'm wondering if the SD card could be the culprit... I will do one last restore from my last working Nandroid backup and not move anything to the SD card.
If it comes up again, i think i will move the data that i have on my SD card that I dont want to loose (my PDF, pictures, etc.) on to my NAS, and do a factory reset without the SD card installed. Maybe even re-flash with Samsung Kies... and forget about my Titanium Backup saves...
It's my last resort so I was hoping anyone would have any idea on what else to try before doing that?
One last point : yes the stores kinda slows down at some point where the download process takes a few seconds to kick in, and then a few seconds to installing, up to the point where it never does. BUT the rest of my tablet still is really fast, no slow downs anywhere else... All apps launch fast
Thanks!
Auto updates are bad. They just kill the performance of your s2.. better do such things manually.
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Auto updates are bad. They just kill the performance of your s2.. better do such things manually.
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Auto updates of the apps? Or the OS?
Apps i can see... but still... If I turn that off, that solves the issue of the auto-updates. But then if I want to update a bunch, they will only do one by one, i have to close the store and open again after each updated app.
But even with app auto-updates, if i want to install one new app on my S2, it will only download, but not install, i have to close the store and open it again for it to install. Then the next time that I want to install an app, I have to do the same thing again, close and open. It's like the download manager doesn't tell the Play Store app to do the install (or tell whatever app or service to install the APK...)
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Auto updates are bad. They just kill the performance of your s2.. better do such things manually.
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What a bunch of nonsense. Please stop spreading misinformation.
@stefer09 A logcat reader may help you determine the cause of the issue.
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Auto updates are bad. They just kill the performance of your s2.. better do such things manually.
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fonetyk said:
What a bunch of nonsense. Please stop spreading misinformation.
@stefer09 A logcat reader may help you determine the cause of the issue.
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Thanks, that's new for me, I'll read into it!
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Thanks, that's new for me, I'll read into it!
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I am having the same issue on my sm-t810 as well hope you find a solution and post it.
Tabpro8.4 said:
I am having the same issue on my sm-t810 as well hope you find a solution and post it.
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After more research i've seen other people on other devices with same issue... no answer or solution in sight
if i find something ill come back here for sure
I had an OTA update last night to NRD90M.T810XXU2DQCL and the play store is working better now but it is still slow to update.
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I had an OTA update last night to NRD90M.T810XXU2DQCL and the play store is working better now but it is still slow to update.
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Thanks for the info.
I would check for OTA update but since i rooted mine, it won't do them...
I'd have to flash the stock rom from samsung again and loose my saved data... which right now i might be OK living without...
Anyone knows if I loose TWRP if i flash a stock rom with odin ? If so... am i better using Kies?
Fair, let's recap: you do not use stock rom. You have root, twrp, flashed this and that and a morbid desire to have always the very lastest version of whatever the app. And now the Play store doesn't work properly anymore.. d
Do you see the pattern?
But, hey, maybe you need even more *lates updates* to fix your issue.
Updates = bad performance and new issues in general. Period.
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Fair, let's recap: you do not use stock rom. You have root, twrp, flashed this and that and a morbid desire to have always the very lastest version of whatever the app. And now the Play store doesn't work properly anymore.. d
Do you see the pattern?
But, hey, maybe you need even more *lates updates* to fix your issue.
Updates = bad performance and new issues in general. Period.
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Wooooh, DON'T jump to conclusions here.
I was running the STOCK out of the box Android for the S2, no root, no TWRP. The issue started after one year of usage, and not only included updating apps but installing FRESH NEW ONES TOO.
The "flash this and that" came AFTER i ran into issues.
I also have a Note 5 supplied from work and for that reason I'm still runing stock, not rooted, and never will root it. I have over 100 apps on there, 5 email accounts (2 professionnal, 3 personnal), multiple google calendars, multiple outlook calendars, auto-update is on, it's been over a year and a half, if not more, and never ran into this kind of issue, ever! It's synced with my CPAP, my smart watch, and my headphones. And it's still goes the same speed and gives me the same performance as when i took it out of the box.
My tab S2 is my second Android tablet, before I had a Tab 3 that never gave me issues like that either, and always had auto-updates on.
Sometimes you need updates. Some online services might not work right or at all if you don't have the app that matches the features, like evernote, facebook, onedrive, dropbox, etc...
Or you get new hardware that requires an update.
Yes sometimes they include bugs ... which are fixed in a later version.
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Fair, let's recap: you do not use stock rom. You have root, twrp, flashed this and that and a morbid desire to have always the very lastest version of whatever the app. And now the Play store doesn't work properly anymore.. d
Do you see the pattern?
But, hey, maybe you need even more *lates updates* to fix your issue.
Updates = bad performance and new issues in general. Period.
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In my case I do have stock rom and have had issues with play store since update to Nought. It does seem better since last night's OTA update.
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In my case I do have stock rom and have had issues with play store since update to Nought. It does seem better since last night's OTA update.
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I saw multiple posts of people having different phones running stock having this exact issue for a while with no solution in view. I think it has to do with Nougat too... But my Note 5 is on Nougat and no issue... it might be brought on with specific services or apps running while on Nougat.
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In my case I do have stock rom and have had issues with play store since update to Nought. It does seem better since last night's OTA update.
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Thanks for letting me know about the OTA update. Since i was rooted, i can't get OTA updates, would have needed to wait for the 7.1 Rom to flash...
I ended up taking screenshots of the stuff i didnt want to loose (read/unread status of my pdf files, nevermind the save games) and then i used Samsung Smart Switch to reflash the whole thing back to strictly stock, lastest firmware. So far so good, crossing fingers
I*was*running the STOCK out of the box Android for the S2, no root, no TWRP. The issue started after one year of usage,
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Fair. So in this *year of usage* you never ever updated the OS?
And auto-update was of course *off*, right?
If that's the case, then clearly there must be some other issue with your s2.
Otherwise, you have merely confirmed what I have told in the very beginning: updates = bad performance and new issues in general. Period.
By the by, apps like evernote and facebook track and spy on you.
About your Note 5, maybe there weren't so many updates..
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Fair. So in this *year of usage* you never ever updated the OS?
And auto-update was of course *off*, right?
If that's the case, then clearly there must be some other issue with your s2.
Otherwise, you have merely confirmed what I have told in the very beginning: updates = bad performance and new issues in general. Period.
By the by, apps like evernote and facebook track and spy on you.
About your Note 5, maybe there weren't so many updates..
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Yes in that year of usage I upgraded the OS from 5 to 6 to 7. Yes auto-update was on, for Android and for my apps. By stock rom i meant nothing flashed "this and that" like you said.
If you would read my other comments, you'd also realize that another member helped me more by letting me know there was an OTA update that helped him. I reflashed my S2 with Samsung Smart Switch and haven't had any issue with the Play Store since... that proves that updates do fix issues.
There's no OS versions, app versions, firmware versions on any devices that don't have any issues whatsoever. Updates might bring bugs but they also fix the ones from previous versions. If you think that anything stock out of the box never have any issues whatsoever, you're wrong.
Apps like evernote and facebook spy and track you? Really? And you're on a forum for Android based product and don't think that Google tracks what you do? If you dont sign in with your google account and only browse the web with your tablet, that's your business, but you can't go on forums and admonish people for doing otherwise.
Besides, this is a forum where a good part of the posts are about custom roms, flashing different boot/recovery loaders, different kernels, unlocking phones... and you're judging me because i do app updates, and flash "this and that" ?
Come on...
No judging here. Just pointed out the probem at hand.
You did update the OS at least twice.. see?
OEM updates = bad in general.
Sure, new updates fix what *previous updates* screwed up to begin with; sometimes.
I totally agree that there is no OS version that is 100% issue free, but -- why trying to fix something that seems to work?
You see, that is my whole point.
I told you about evernote and facebook because you mentioned to have them on your Note 5 which happens to be your professional work phone?!
Just be aware that Evernote steals content just like the FB messenger. And I mean literally. Your creative ideas become their property. You did agree to their terms! FB also records the mic(s) 24/7.
Certainly Google tracks and spies as well. Then again, you can deactivate or block (firewall) those services/apps.
Just remember, things that are *free* come with a price.
Niii4, I tried to subtely pass the message that I did not want any of your help when I said that SOMEONE ELSE helped me with their input and update.
I didn't say that I was using evernote and facebook on my Note 5 from work. Jumping to conclusions again.
You want to know what are the biggest secrets in my Evernote notes ??? RECIPES!!!!!
Oh no... they can read the oh so secret lemon crinkle cookies recipe that is available with a quick online search! Here's the link btw : http://www.laurenslatest.com/lemon-crinkle-cookies/
I came here after trying a lot of troubleshooting steps, when everything that I've tried failed. And someone else helped me.
All you brought to the table was misinformation about updates in general and spread paranoia on who is spying on who.
fonetyk asked you to stop that, and I asked you to stop that. So far my issue has been resolved and i'm thankful to the user Tabpro8.4 for his comment.
Please, please leave my thread.
First and foremost, this is a forum and thus other users that may encounter similar or the exact same problem(s) will seek to comprehend the whole issue at hand and not just one side of a problem.
Oh yeah, an OTA update seemed to have fixed it. Seemed.. for now.
Second, this is not exclusively about *helping you*. Apparently you are quite knowledge resistant, especially when facts are being stated that don't conform your general view.
True, you only have hundreds of apps on your work phone. But definitely not FB messenger or whatnot. Whatever. What's right is right, and what's fair is fair.
I suppose, you are probably right, the work you do must be of no interest for anybody in this world; at all. Same for your private life. Now, be a neat little sheep and go on chewing the green.. (while we are watching you).
Oh, and you stalking all my comments, telling people to ignore me is hilarious. Keep up the great whine. ?
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First and foremost, this is a forum and thus other users that may encounter similiar or the exact same problem(s) will seek to comprehend the whole issue at hand and not just one side of a problem.
Oh yeah, an OTA update seemed to have fixed it. Seemed.. for now.
Second, this is not exclusively about *helping you*. Apparently you are quite knowledge resistant, especially when facts are being stated that don't conform your general view.
True, you only have hundreds of apps on your work phone. But definitely not FB messenger or whatnot. Whatever. What's right is right, and what's fair is fair.
I suppose, you are probably right, the work you do must be of no interest for anybody in this world; at all. Same for your private life. Now, be a neat little sheep and go on chewing the green.. (while we are watching you).
Oh, and you stalking all my comments, telling people to ignore me is hilarious. Keep up the great whine.
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Lol... knowledge resistant. Thats cute.
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Stalking your comments... ah! Maybe you got that dead pixel from trying to plug your bluray player on your tablet. Seriously clueless or just trolling...
My issue is resolved so im unsubbing from this thread.
Bye bye :good:
Hello,
My M21 says it is up-to-date, but it isn't and I can't figure out why. I've even gone so far as to do a full factory reset, and still it won't update. The factory reset was the last option I knew.
Alot of google-searches resulted in the feeling that this is an isolated case.
Samsung Switch on PC also says the phone is up to date.
All my colleagues (it is a company phone) have the same model, and they have all received the updates long ago.
I've added screenshots of the software-information it is showing.
If anyone knows a solution to this, please let me know.
Thanks for any replies or clues anybody might give.
Lol, if I was you I would disable OTA updates!
If the OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission... let it be! Upgrades can and do break things.
No rollback from 11 as it upgrades the bootloader version too. Let that soak in; it's a one way ticket once punched Mr Wick... consequences.
Android 9/10 best, Android 11* so-so, Android 12* is a mess... in my opinion.
With Pie and higher you are protected from the worst rootkits. Unless you do something stupid security and malware won't be an issue.
*do you really want cpu cycle sucking scoped storage fully active? Some apps like the old free version of WPS Office will most likely not load.
I was actually hoping that the update would fix some of the inconveniences I've noticed since I started using it.
Things like:
Random restarts while the phone is doing nothing, needing me to enter the PIN for both SIM's. Like in the middle of the night. The alarm still goes off in the morning, however it goes of at max volume... Or in the middle of a run (i use the phone for sports tracking), causing me to lose the workout data.
Random disconnects from bluetooth devices
Sometimes slowdowns for no apparant reason
Incredibly slow camera
This is a company phone, and before this I had a personal Nokia 8.1. Transitioning to the M21 just feels like a step back. It's slower and has more buggy behavior. I was hoping the updates would fix it, because rooting is against company policy.
And this is apart from the security updates that haven't come through since october 2020, while all colleagues with the same phone did get those updates.
And I'm also just curious why this one says it has the most recent updates, while it clearly doesn't. Whether I choose to install those updates is another matter. It just doesn't give me the choise.
NCC369 said:
I was actually hoping that the update would fix some of the inconveniences I've noticed since I started using it.
Things like:
Random restarts while the phone is doing nothing, needing me to enter the PIN for both SIM's. Like in the middle of the night. The alarm still goes off in the morning, however it goes of at max volume... Or in the middle of a run (i use the phone for sports tracking), causing me to lose the workout data.
Random disconnects from bluetooth devices
Sometimes slowdowns for no apparant reason
Incredibly slow camera
This is a company phone, and before this I had a personal Nokia 8.1. Transitioning to the M21 just feels like a step back. It's slower and has more buggy behavior. I was hoping the updates would fix it, because rooting is against company policy.
And this is apart from the security updates that haven't come through since october 2020, while all colleagues with the same phone did get those updates.
And I'm also just curious why this one says it has the most recent updates, while it clearly doesn't. Whether I choose to install those updates is another matter. It just doesn't give me the choise.
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That's not a stable load. I don't blame you for wanting to ditch it if that's the best it can do.
I never get random reboots or the rare crashes I see seldom require a reboot.
Make sure global power management is disable and that a 3rd party app isn't the cause.
It's possible that the firmware is corrupted; a reflash to the same rom might be a safer option.
Or you could try flashing the next OS version up... avoid 12 though. Lots of reported issues across the board with it, and lots of people doing rollbacks to ditch it.
This will probably get time intensive.