[XT860] Bell XT860 4G updated to 2.3.6 - Motorola Droid 3

Just about a hour ago I received "push" notification about update available for my Bell XT860 4G. Installed it - got Android version 2.3.6, system version 5.2.476.XT860.BellMobility.en.CA.
I am now checking to see if bugs I've experienced have been resolved. It is too early to say for now, but I will update the thread once I gather more stats.

Awesome! I didn't think you stayed on stock...
Will we be able to get an SBF our of the update? If all the issues are resolved I'd wanna flip back to the Bell official f/w
Sent from my XT860 using xda premium

Update wasn't complete firmware for sure as it downloaded relatively fast (I didn't pay attention of the size - accidentally pressed update now). I am afraid SBF situation for us with Bell phones, remains unchanged.
Yeah - I say stock with this one. There's not much bloat if at all compared to what Verizon does on their phones, plus I am one of the few who likes blur Though, I have to admit it was really difficult not to follow my own rules not to "sway off the light side" if aint way back.. Glad now I resisted
Too bad no update will ever fix the crappy display or the abysmal amount of RAM for this generation of phones Motorola opted in.. /end rant!

Anybody knows if we need to unroot before the update ?
Also, does any changes to the system partition will prevent the update from installing ?
Do I need to restore "frozen" APKs from Titanium ?
I'm kind of excited for this...
How do we pull the update files from the phone memory ?
Can't seem to get the update from the system menu....
So many questions !!!

Did they patch the root vulnerability, or are you using rootkeeper
xt860, android 2.3.5, Eclipse 1.1.1

Haven't got the update notification yet, but I was wondering if any of my questions would have an impact on the updating process.

Couple of updates on my findings yet:
1) power drain after using the car dock has been resolved
2) auto brightness not restoring back to normal when undock from media station/stand is fixed too
3) keyboard auto-repeat bug seems to be resolved too (I have not experienced it since the update and I was quite a bit before!)
4) cell standby no longer at the top of power use stats, but I can't comment on battery life until at least couple of days of use. Looks quite promising though!
5) receiving SMS while docked in car dock does not crash anymore - screen offering you to read/reply - you can listen to the message and reply back using voice commands. Before the update, whenever I received SMS I get a message to force close a process which died.
6) camera makes significantly better shots color wise. Images are still "noisy" though. I don't find camera any faster than before. It also shows some ill effects - every now and then (say 1 out of 5-6 times) camera crashes upon taking a pic - no force close - just exit to home screen and picture being taken at the time of crash does not get saved. Still better than Avatar-like looking people..
7) connected music player app has been revamped. Color scheme now matches the rest of the interface. Playback windows has been optimized for landscape use.
8) MotoPrint has been updated too - now available on market actually. Supported any printer I threw on it (and we have plenty of different variety at the office).
So far I am VERY impressed, as the biggest hurdles have been resolved!
I just got off a 40 minute long call which consumed less than 10% battery (7% if circle battery widget is right), phone didn't get excessively hot either, I'd even say it stayed surprisingly cool during this call.
I have not noticed any improvements on download/upload speeds - they stay the same as before. For couple of days I am using ADW launcher EX (bought for 10 cents) and I really like it, I am yet to test with Motorola default launcher (where lack of RAM was most prominent).

SX86 said:
Haven't got the update notification yet, but I was wondering if any of my questions would have an impact on the updating process.
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Judging from my Droid 2 Global experience - being rooted does not fail the update process. What does, though, is if you have recovery installed (or any other alternation of a file located in /system. Since update is distributed as patch - it fails only if a file it tries to patch has been modified (which is the case if you have hijack installed to get clockwork mod working). Extra files (like su binary and superuser.apk) do not seem to disturb the update. Most definitely you must have all files in /system (no frozen/deleted stuff).
This doesn't mean Motorola have not changed the process to verify if phone is rooted (easiest thing - check for su and superuser.apk) or calculate check sum of /system partition to ensure it was not tampered with.
If you are rooted when you receive the update - you can use privileged access to pull the update file before it is installed - check in /cache for it. It is easy to spot it.
Due to the lack of SBF (and my principles) my XT860 wasn't rooted when I installed the update, so I can't confirm my findings from D2G are valid here. But I am sure it won't be long before everyone receives it.

Thanks for the reply ! Very helpful
So, should I uninstall the bootstrap ?
If I can't get the update to install, I'll try to recover an old system.img nandroid backup I did when it first came out for D3.
Anyways, thanks for the reply ! I'll let you all know how it goes once I get the OTA

SX86 said:
Thanks for the reply ! Very helpful
So, should I uninstall the bootstrap ?
If I can't get the update to install, I'll try to recover an old system.img nandroid backup I did when it first came out for D3.
Anyways, thanks for the reply ! I'll let you all know how it goes once I get the OTA
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Uninstalling the bootstrap doesn't remove the hijack. There's actually a file called hijack somewhere on your.phone you need to remove and also remove logwrapper and rename logwrapper.bin to logwrapper. I can't for the life of me remember where these are located. Also someone may wish to confirm these instructions. I've mixed it up before
xt860, android 2.3.5, Eclipse 1.1.1

How does one go about pulling thenupdate file off the phone. Im on brazil fw but my gfs daughter has a stock xt860
xt860, android 2.3.5, Eclipse 1.1.1

I'm trying a full restore from my nandroid backup then will try to dd the initial system.img I created back in September, might throw in a titaniumbackup restore as well.. Although if all goes bad I will just go to retail SBF (that one looks way better than the vivo one, I had to load it up for a few min today). Wish me luck with it all! I did sign up for the update beta a while ago, let's see if I'm in the pool or not...
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Didn't work... I am just going to restore to brazil retail and will keep my phone like that until bell SBF comes around

Unfroze all my system apps in Titanium, update failing for me. Hope I don't have to unroot.
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Here's the update. I tried to flash it with CWM but I got an error. I'm not much of a chef so I can't figure out how to mod it to work. The link is for the unmodded version.
https://rapidshare.com/files/3968311425/Blur_Version.5.1.544.XT860.BellMobility.en.CA.zip

Nardholio, thanks for posting the zip. I'll have a look to see what was actually changed. But at 50MB or so it is a serious overhaul.
You're getting the error, because of the CWM. You need to uninstall it and restore the hijacked logwrapper. I had a post somewhere of how to do it manually, will look it up and link it here. Edit: here is it - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17333863&postcount=152 should be the same for this phone as was for D2G I believe. Be careful - if you break the logwrapper, phone will stay on M logo.
Another thing I noticed today which got some nice improvements is the connected music app. Now color scheme matches the rest of the phone and layout has been rearranged to get better use of the landscape position (when phone is docked in). Battery consumption seems really improved, but again - it is too early to report real stats on this.

2.3.6!! That's not fair!
Hehe, anyway good to see XT860 getting some support too!

I totally forgot about the camera. It was so useless before that I pretty much never used it. Now it has been updated. Starts fairly quick and pics aren't so blue/bad as before. But it crashed on me twice...
Sent from my XT860 using Tapatalk

...damn, that's rude of Bell to leapfrog my Brazilian 2.3.5
Sent from my XT860 using xda premium

How do you install it?
The .zip providen by leobg
Envoyé depuis mon XT860 utilisant Tapatalk

LifeInAnalog said:
...damn, that's rude of Bell to leapfrog my Brazilian 2.3.5
Sent from my XT860 using xda premium
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At least they didn't leap to android 4. Bet you would be ****ting bricks.
xt860, android 2.3.5, Eclipse 1.1.1

DoubleYouPee said:
2.3.6!! That's not fair!
Hehe, anyway good to see XT860 getting some support too!
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Relax my friend XT862 has a pre-alpha version of Android 4.0.1.

Related

TELUS – SHOLS_U2_03.11.0 and app2sd works too!!

ok i have updated to the new firmware and used app2sd from my previous post(other ones dont work on my milestone)
first i did 2 nano backups one just data and the other a full backup in case i screw up.i then flashed the new telus sbf after i did a wipe and then factory reset ,then i rooted(using open recovery)installed app2sd then did a nano restore of my data and voila its running with all my apps.
i must say the update is awesome gps locks in real quick it runs smoother overall everything launcher games,menu, home screen etc without overclock apk.no lag at all ..call are clearer but lets see on that still early.here is the link to the file http://groupoften.wordpress.com/ and my previous post on how to app2sd http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=692367
I am using this one since the day of release. All annoying bugs are ironed - location based service in 3G on non-Telus network works, no more music starting and stopping on its own, the newer and better youtube app and many other improvements.
Overall - HUGE improvements over current Telus stock one.
Edit: I forgot to mention the most important improvement: people stopped complaining I am breaking up on them when talking to me!!
do i just flash this using RBD?
Simply follow the how-to: http://groupoften.wordpress.com/category/how-to/
leobg said:
I am using this one since the day of release. All annoying bugs are ironed - location based service in 3G on non-Telus network works, no more music starting and stopping on its own, the newer and better youtube app and many other improvements.
Overall - HUGE improvements over current Telus stock one.
Edit: I forgot to mention the most important improvement: people stopped complaining I am breaking up on them when talking to me!!
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yes i love that i dont break up on call's anymore also i notice battery life is better.the phone no longer reboots on its on
im new here, just a question, so this is the SBF file, what part of the phone does it change? I have the nandroid backup from other posters here after i flashed this SBF my RAM has gone down a lot, does anyone know? thanks
Check the other goodie G.O.T. offers - their open recovery. There are few hacks that it can apply which will cure your memory problems (as well as others like paid apps on market/etc).
the got hacks do not work you just get stuck in a boot loop
Just installed this firmware everything works. Ran GOT openrecovery too. 1.04a worked flawlessly. Running apps2sd from openrecovery was so cool. Partitioned my sd card, installed busybox, installed apps2sd, as well all my apps got moved over automatically. All done from openrecovery.
imma have to try this out soon
Shamelessly bumping this thread
Thanks a lot for the link to the ROM and the GOTS OpenRecovery, I never even knew about this. Hopefully the music auto-start issue goes away now!
dsixda said:
Shamelessly bumping this thread
Thanks a lot for the link to the ROM and the GOTS OpenRecovery, I never even knew about this. Hopefully the music auto-start issue goes away now!
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Music auto-start is fixed. Along with geolocation issues in 3G and noise cancelation issues. Battery seem to last a tad longer too. Overall - I am extremely happy with the GOT Telus release!
leobg said:
Music auto-start is fixed. Along with geolocation issues in 3G and noise cancelation issues. Battery seem to last a tad longer too. Overall - I am extremely happy with the GOT Telus release!
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I had issues earlier with G.O.T.'s JIT but realized it was my fault and it had to do with the dalvik-cache. After clearing it and installing JIT, those problems went away. However I was still unable to get JIT working 100%. Everything seemed to work fine until I started up Google Navigation, and then as soon as it locked onto a satellite the Milestone rebooted by itself. (EDIT: It's probably an overclocking issue, I had VSEL=56 with 1GHz; turning it up to 62 seems to have fixed it)
Audio bug doesn't seem to happen anymore. I did notice, however, at one point the audio played for a fraction of a second while doing some file browsing.... It was probably the bug trying to show up + the fix trying to suppress it. No big deal, as long as it's not too loud when it happens in public ;-)
yeah it happens.
I think it was a quick and dirty fix for it. Unfortunately only applicable to the stock Music app. Any other media app will auto play still

Post Root Issues

Hey everyone, I'm not new to phone development work, I've been running custom roms for around a year now, but I'm new to posting so I can't put this in the dev forum where it would be more proper....
So on to my problem...
I rooted my Bionic last night to get rid of the Verizon bloat and to be able to load the 891/893 updates since I have a different SIM than originally so I don't get OTA updates.
I tried to run the R3L3AS3DRoot and 43V3R root method, and while it ran successfully, it didn't install superuser properly, and I couldn't make it update from the market. I downloaded the superuser update zip and tried to flash it using stock recovery, and that didn't work right. Had to clear the cache to make the phone boot properly, then I used the Pete's 1 click method to root, which worked properly, and I then applied 43V3R root.
I then used Titanium Backup to freeze:
Backup Assistant 2.3.4
Backup Assistant Client 1.0
Blockbuster 0.9
Citrix Receiver 3.0.60
City Caller ID 1.0.20
City ID 1.1.7
GoToMeeting 1.0
Guided Tours 2.3.4
IM 3.0.4.6
IM Presence 2.3.4
MOTOPRINT 2.0.0.38
MS Exchange Service 2.3.4
Tasks 1.0
V CAST Media Manager 4.4.1.0
V CAST Tones 4.5.16
V CAST Videos 5.72.008
VideoSurf 2.0.0
VZ Navigator 7.2.0.353
Since doing this, I have been having random lockups that require a battery pull to fix. The lockups happen randomly on the homescreen, or entering apps, although I haven't been able to pinpoint it. I'm not sure if it would happen anyway without launching apps, although I suspect it does. It has happened on messaging, Pandora, and several other apps that worked fine before. I have since unfrozen all the apps to see if it will still lock up on me.
Any idea what I screwed up?
Thanks,
-B
It seems to not freeze up now that I unfroze the apps. My only problem is those were on the "safe list" so I don't know what wasn't working right with freezing them...
The only reason I care about getting this worked out is because the data loss in 886 is KILLING me...
Thanks again,
-B
first and formost the issue you are stating does belong in the general section unless it is directly related to hacks roms development it belong in this section as this is technically a question and we don't have a q and a here this is the right spot for it otherwise a moderator would have moved it anyway..
seem like a different issue have you tried powering down. then pull sim card, power up wait for it to fully power up widget and what not. power down put sim back in power up that refreshes the phone and used to have the same issue and that solved it don't remember who found this initially but i worked for me so yeah..
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first and formost the issue you are stating does belong in the general section unless it is directly related to hacks roms development it belong in this section as this is technically a question and we don't have a q and a here this is the right spot for it otherwise a moderator would have moved it anyway..
seem like a different issue have you tried powering down. then pull sim card, power up wait for it to fully power up widget and what not. power down put sim back in power up that refreshes the phone and used to have the same issue and that solved it don't remember who found this initially but i worked for me so yeah..
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I haven't done that this time around, I didn't think that would help with freezing, I only knew it to help with data issues, and it did help me with that for a bit. I'll give it a shot though, can't hurt.
And I what I mean is I would have posted it in the thread on the root tools I used (not start a new thread), I feel like it would belong there more than here.
Thanks,
-B
If you want to remove bloat try using a custom ROM from the development section, rather than doing it yourself. I'd recommend Eclipse v2.1 RC1 to start. Terror has a good list of ROMs in the Dev section.
bfitzpatrickd2d -- It turns out that made it worse, now it seems to have sleep of death issues.
::NOTE:: I have un-frozen all apps, so it is theoretically back to stock + forever root.
tuckmobile said:
If you want to remove bloat try using a custom ROM from the development section, rather than doing it yourself. I'd recommend Eclipse v2.1 RC1 to start. Terror has a good list of ROMs in the Dev section.
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Yeah as I said in the OP, I'm no stranger to custom ROMs, I know how nice they are to run and how great the lack of bloat and speed improvements are.
My issue is that I want to have things working properly FIRST. I think it’s important to know what went wrong before using something as "heavy fisted" as a new ROM to solve the problem. Since all the apps I froze were supposed to be safe, and rooting this phone didn't seem to go exactly quite by the book, I'd like to understand what its issue is before going further.
It’s kind of like if your car is leaking oil, and your mechanic says to just put in a brand new engine. Will it work? Probably yes. Would it make the car better? Again, probably. The downside is that it’s a drastic solution, and wouldn't help you if say, your leak was in the oil cooler, not the engine itself. That’s how I tend to think of things.
Thanks,
-B
Damn sorry dude just trying help in what helped me
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using XDA App
bfitzpatrickd2d said:
Damn sorry dude just trying help in what helped me
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using XDA App
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Not a problem! Thats just one of those dangers that comes with the territory in messing with phones haha
I decided I'd be best served just using R3L3AS3DRoot to restore to totally bare 886 then work forwards from there again. I was trying to avoid it, but the crashing was so bad it would BSOD even with nothing running...
Oh well, shiny new faster phone coming right up!
-B
Not rooted yet a bit scarlet Samsung was a breeze compared to moto
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using XDA App

Droid4 Stock ICS Bugs

All,
We don't have an ICS Bugs thread going on. I wanted to check with some of the people here on XDA to see if they are experiencing what I am. Currently on .213, but most of these bugs I've seen since the begining. Oh, I'm also in Canada running on 3G HSPA+. I'm stock, but rooted with safestrap installed.
1) When placing a phone call, the phone hangs up immediately (you here the disconnected beep), then retries the phone call a few seconds later (it always succeeds). I have tried this on a freshly wiped phone and found the same experience. I have also tried disabling the Assisted Dialing, but have found ikt's the same thing
2) When using Google Chrome, if there is a input box, most of the time my keyboard won't appear (I'm using Swype as my default keyboard)
3) Phone runs hot sometimes, and when it's running hot it slows down to a halt. Usually happens after a day or two without a restart
4) My photo doesn't appear in the text messaging app (worked in AOKP/CM9 on my D3, as well as it works on my gf's Nexus S)
The only bug I noticed was that it initially booted up in global mode, and wouldn't connect to 4G/CDMA. Switching it to CDM+LTE fixed the issue and I haven't seen a bug since (213).:good:
podspi said:
The only bug I noticed was that it initially booted up in global mode, and wouldn't connect to 4G/CDMA. Switching it to CDM+LTE fixed the issue and I haven't seen a bug since (213).:good:
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Is your chrome working properly? Specifically the bug I mentioned in the OP...?
I didn't comment on that because I use Opera
Just tried the Chrome Beta now just to see, and I can confirm I am seeing the same behavior. I use Swiftkey, so it isn't a Swype-specific bug either.
What exactly is the difference between Chrome and the built-in browser? Aren't they both Webkit-based? Why is Google bothering to work on both?
podspi said:
I didn't comment on that because I use Opera
Just tried the Chrome Beta now just to see, and I can confirm I am seeing the same behavior. I use Swiftkey, so it isn't a Swype-specific bug either.
What exactly is the difference between Chrome and the built-in browser? Aren't they both Webkit-based? Why is Google bothering to work on both?
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Chrome is way faster at many things since it users hardware acceleration for video. Does text input work properly on opera?
Sent from my XT894 running ICS
I'm in the US also running .213
I haven't noticed any bugs, its working fine for me. I do not use chrome beta so I can't comment on that. The stock is not too bad, I don't use it much anyways.
Sent from my DROID4 using xda app-developers app
danifunker said:
Chrome is way faster at many things since it users hardware acceleration for video. Does text input work properly on opera?
Sent from my XT894 running ICS
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Text entry works fine in both the stock browser and Opera. BTW, Opera also has hardware acceleration, which is why it never worked in any of the Frankbuilds of ICS based off the GB kernel ... So you can have your teh snappy and type with it too :laugh:
I'm on the 212 build and i can't screencap using power + volume down.
Is this fixed in 213 or am i just doing it wrong?
Also on 212 i can't control the default google music app or winamp from my bluetooth headset when the screen is off. I could do this before with the same version of the winamp app when i was back on gingerbread. I tried upgrading winamp, but that did nothing. Is there any change in 213?
Thanks ahead of time
Edit: just tried it and the volume down + power combo worked. Lol
One question, possible thought to ponder.
Are the bugs being described here really bugs of Android 4 or are they bugs in the individual app itself not being fully compatible with Android 4 yet?
Do similar bugs happen on a non-motorola device with android 4?
I'm considering flashing one of the leaks, so I'm trying to understand how you are sure these are ics bugs before I make the leap and run into issues.
Thanks.
Apologies if this constitutes hijacking the thread, if it does let me know and I"ll edit it to delete the question.
I was able to figure out bug #4, I had to login with my Google+ account again, since the update yesterday everything seems to be working fine.
Bugs 1 through 3 still exist, although I've switched off Global mode for now and put it to GSM only, it seems like the phone runs a lot cooler in this mode.
Even after updating Chrome to the final version, I'm still experiencing that text input bug. Maybe it's a Motorola issue... Can't wait for the next version of the leak!
I have tasker reboot my phone every morning at 6am. The phone doesn't need to be rebooted every day, but it ensures that it is fresh and ready to go every morning :laugh:
Nothing more annoying than trying to do something with your phone and having to reboot it because it is slow for whatever reason.
podspi said:
I have tasker reboot my phone every morning at 6am. The phone doesn't need to be rebooted every day, but it ensures that it is fresh and ready to go every morning :laugh:
Nothing more annoying than trying to do something with your phone and having to reboot it because it is slow for whatever reason.
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for this reason I think there will be other leaks, ICS is supposed to handle killing processes much better than GB, however the settings seem to not be aggressive enough in 213.
Probably there will be, though I likely won't update again for a while. Don't feel like losing all that data...
podspi said:
Probably there will be, though I likely won't update again for a while. Don't feel like losing all that data...
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You could just do what I do: once you have root install safestrap and then take a backup of your phone before flashing the upgrade.
Once you're all done upgrading, re-root and re-install safestrap, then do an advanced restore and only restore the data. Voilla, all your apps are back.
podspi said:
Probably there will be, though I likely won't update again for a while. Don't feel like losing all that data...
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I don't know, just had a random reboot after watching a youtube video in firefox, most likely memory related, not sure who's fault though, Motorola or Firefox. gotta root and use system tuner to change memory mgmt states.
danifunker said:
You could just do what I do: once you have root install safestrap and then take a backup of your phone before flashing the upgrade.
Once you're all done upgrading, re-root and re-install safestrap, then do an advanced restore and only restore the data. Voilla, all your apps are back.
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That is a great idea. Though there hasn't been another leak since 213, so
Notification Bar Sticking/Wont Pull Down
I am on 212 currently, and I have noticed in 208 and 212 something that has happened only twice so far. Today, I just tried to check my notifications, and the bar will not pull down.
After a reboot it works fine, and it has only happened 2 times in the past couple weeks since the leaks first appeared.
Obviously it is a minor glitch, but just thought I'd throw it out there in case anyone else has seen it and overlooked it. :cyclops:
danifunker said:
You could just do what I do: once you have root install safestrap and then take a backup of your phone before flashing the upgrade.
Once you're all done upgrading, re-root and re-install safestrap, then do an advanced restore and only restore the data. Voilla, all your apps are back.
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I have heard of a few others using this method successfully. If you are not using safestrap or just don't want to go this route take a look at the post link in my signature. It's a modified version of the original Droid 4 Utility and includes a script to jump from one ICS leak to another without losing data. It also flashes the GB files and the Kernel (boot.img) in one script, thus making it easier to go from one leak to another.
Regarding bugs, my wife got a razr yesterday. It wouldn't pull down the ICS update, so I just sideloaded it. We both run some of the same apps. So this gave me a chance to do side by side comparisons.The issue with some of the icons being small in the left top of the status seems to be a app issue. The chrome issue isn't present on the razr, of course there isn't a physical keyboard. Otherwise my 213 ICS seems to run great.
I found a new bug, it looks like GSM call forwarding doesn't work properly... at least it doesn't with my SIM card, I'm on Rogers in Canada.
Does Verizon support call forwarding? Does it work on there?
I have noticed in Chrome that pressing shift and then one of the symbol keys (like @) will only work if you hold the shift key.
More importantly I don't get notifications of app updates from google play. Check to see if you have any apps that need updating. Superuser had a update on July 1, dropbox yesterday and voodoo rootkeeper on June 28, I think. Anyone else?

Droid 4 JellyBean...The Good, Bad, and the Ugly

So, now we have it. But we need to look at the new "issues" we're all facing. Because we're going to need some help.
The Good
We lost a lot of Blurr (thank ya Jesus!) We have a faster, better camera. A more optimized kernal for what seems like an OS with lighter thumbprint. Its fast! We can disable dozens of needlessly running apps/services. New gallery is beautiful.
The Bad
We lost the "Exit" button in the browser. Google+ is in everything with options defaulting to send anonymous usage and target ads based on our data. Auto sign-in/up is everywhere. Nova Launcher keeps getting killed by Android Battery life seems way off. Factory reset is pretty much a requirement. Clock app is super weird. Verizon bloat seems like an extra appendage that won't be amputated. Smart Actions is still broken.
The Ugly
The font is terrible. No amazing wallpapers added.
We have ALMOST a Nexus experience. What are you guys seeing with update, and what problems have you fixed? I'm super concerned that I can't "Exit" the browser. I don't like things running in memory.
I love the new update. I got it from the soak test early this week. I did not wipe first. My nova launcher has never been killed and phone is running perfectly for me since Tuesday. Love it!!!
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I'm loving it. It's so fast and less bloatware. Browser can't "Exit" just like all JB roms on all devices. We also lost sleep mode on power menu. Good to see we still have mass storage usb mode. It's been removed in all Moto new lineups. This is the best ota update I've ever applied on my Android devices.
The Good & Ugly!
ChristianPreachr said:
So, now we have it. But we need to look at the new "issues" we're all facing. Because we're going to need some help.
The Good
We lost a lot of Blurr (thank ya Jesus!) We have a faster, better camera. A more optimized kernal for what seems like an OS with lighter thumbprint. Its fast! We can disable dozens of needlessly running apps/services. New gallery is beautiful.
The Bad
We lost the "Exit" button in the browser. Google+ is in everything with options defaulting to send anonymous usage and target ads based on our data. Auto sign-in/up is everywhere. Nova Launcher keeps getting killed by Android Battery life seems way off. Factory reset is pretty much a requirement. Clock app is super weird. Verizon bloat seems like an extra appendage that won't be amputated. Smart Actions is still broken.
The Ugly
The font is terrible. No amazing wallpapers added.
We have ALMOST a Nexus experience. What are you guys seeing with update, and what problems have you fixed? I'm super concerned that I can't "Exit" the browser. I don't like things running in memory.
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Just last evening I checked the System Updates on my unrooted Droid 4 and there it was! Upgraded it.
Project Butter lives upto the mark. Works smooth like butter.
Font, could've done better.
The ONLY UGLY issue am facing:
My data from the network is somehow locked, or in short, not working. Visited Vodafone gallery & they checked the settings, which were fine, but still the data is not working by the network.
NEED HELP!
Please, suggest me how I can make the data work on my Droid 4!
Please!
Currently my phone is technically paralyzed because of this issue!
Nova works fine with me too.
supraket said:
Just last evening I checked the System Updates on my unrooted Droid 4 and there it was! Upgraded it.
Project Butter lives upto the mark. Works smooth like butter.
Font, could've done better.
The ONLY UGLY issue am facing:
My data from the network is somehow locked, or in short, not working. Visited Vodafone gallery & they checked the settings, which were fine, but still the data is not working by the network.
NEED HELP!
Please, suggest me how I can make the data work on my Droid 4!
Please!
Currently my phone is technically paralyzed because of this issue!
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Vodafone is prepaid. Did you unlock the phone or buy it unlocked?
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I have several friends and relatives with Droid 4's and RAZR's. These Jelly Bean updates have been hit or miss with results.
-One Droid 4 was a brand new phone with date code 03/13 and HW B. This phone received the update quickly and smoothly. Operation has been perfect.
-Another Droid 4 had date code 16/12 and HW A, never rooted or modded, update failed 3 times, left the phone soft bricked, had to be SBF'd back to ICS. The new update will just not play nice with this phone, so it will need to be replaced.
-A RAZR MAXX got this update smoothly and battery life has been great, no lags or hiccups.
-A regular RAZR got this update and battery life is horrible, the phone gets hot, wiping cache and data did not fix it. No prior issues with ICS.
I'm guessing that Motorola may have used different components in different batches and some just will not run properly.
the shift button on the physical keyboard likes to stop toggling occasionaly. rebooting the phone fixes it for a while.
when it stops toggling, you have to push [shift] and [1] to make a "!", instead of [shift] and then [1].
No tether apps seem to be working
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pnwsr6 said:
No tether apps seem to be working
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The stock one works fine for me. I had to use SQL Lite to enable Wifi, but it seems to work, no problem.
Cheers,
Steve.
Morlok8k said:
the shift button on the physical keyboard likes to stop toggling occasionaly. rebooting the phone fixes it for a while.
when it stops toggling, you have to push [shift] and [1] to make a "!", instead of [shift] and then [1].
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yes i noticed this too. it's a little annoying but i think there should be an update to the update coming out soon. right now id like to figure out how i can reflash with jb possibly using rsdlite as i did with ics but someone said flashing to ics now would brick my d4. im getting random reboots like once a day, but i think it may have something to do with my attempt at installing lbe which sent the phone into bootloop. so i want to clear it all and start from the top.. but how?
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Morlok8k said:
the shift button on the physical keyboard likes to stop toggling occasionaly. rebooting the phone fixes it for a while.
when it stops toggling, you have to push [shift] and [1] to make a "!", instead of [shift] and then [1].
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I heard others say the same thing. I've not noticed that yet.....yet
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I also have the SHIFT issue. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I also have an issue with SMS. When I am sending a message the green arrow continually shows even though the message has already sent.
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No tether apps seem to be working
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StevePritchard said:
The stock one works fine for me. I had to use SQL Lite to enable Wifi, but it seems to work, no problem.
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Matter of fact, I had the phone root'ed, stock tether enabled on ICS. Unrooted the phone to get the update to install and once upgraded to JB, my tether was still working, so the upgrade did not reset the value in the SQL database.
Works brill anyhow.
/M
Morlok8k said:
the shift button on the physical keyboard likes to stop toggling occasionaly. rebooting the phone fixes it for a while.
when it stops toggling, you have to push [shift] and [1] to make a "!", instead of [shift] and then [1].
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That is the most annoying bug there is for the JBupdate. Hope someone or MOT can fix this soon.
marlow925 said:
Matter of fact, I had the phone root'ed, stock tether enabled on ICS. Unrooted the phone to get the update to install and once upgraded to JB, my tether was still working, so the upgrade did not reset the value in the SQL database.
Works brill anyhow.
/M
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Weird - I'm pretty certain it had reset for me during the upgrade.
My D4 had the stock rom + the Google Now hacked into it, plus the latest version of Hashcode's CM10, which I'd been using steadily since the Bluetooth bugs were fixed. (Around two weeks ago.) On the stock ROM, I'd always had issues of the phone occasionally (often) going crazy with background processes or something where it would heat up quite a bit and the battery would drain quickly. I also had intermittent Bluetooth issues with my car connection, where it often wouldn't connect, requiring a reboot or toggling BT, and it would sometimes lose the connection after a call.
Running CM, it stayed cool and had much longer battery life, and BT worked much more reliably.
Removing the Google Now hack to install the JB update wasn't going smoothly, so I ended up just using RSDLite and wiping the phone completely then installing the JB update manually (it wasn't showing yet as an OTA.) It's definitely faster, BUT...
The Shift key often doesn't work correctly, as has been mentioned here
Bluetooth is wonky again and I have to tell it over and over to pair with my car
Mobile data just stopped working yesterday, even after rebooting, until I manually turned off and on mobile data
Battery life is atrocious; it has been getting hot a lot and I'm probably getting not much more than half the battery life that I got in CM. Looking in the Battery info, Screen is usually the biggest battery user, but I always have it either set to Auto or to a very dim display. Looking at CPU usage shows nothing obvious. It's common for the battery to get to 95-100' F or higher. Right now it's behaving and only at 72' F - it must know that I'm complaining about it.
I'm hoping that we'll soon see (if we haven't already; I haven't checked yet) a CM based on the new kernel, so we get everything working but with the better battery life and such. Video was the only issue that I was still seeing with it.
supraket said:
Just last evening I checked the System Updates on my unrooted Droid 4 and there it was! Upgraded it.
My data from the network is somehow locked, or in short, not working. Visited Vodafone gallery & they checked the settings, which were fine, but still the data is not working by the network.
NEED HELP!
Please, suggest me how I can make the data work on my Droid 4!
Please!
Currently my phone is technically paralyzed because of this issue!
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Have you checked, that you APN still is entered in the phone ? Upgrade from ICS to JB removed my manual APN entry. I just re-entered it and all working.
/M
I wonder why they axed sleep mode, I used that a lot. Does CM or AOKP still have it?
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I've noticed that I'm seeing 3G/H notification in the notification bar while connected on WiFi. It didn't do this in ICS. I wonder whether that's just a cosmetic change or whether it has an impact on battery life. I've not noticed the shift problem, but the Caps Lock light doesn't seem to work any more.
Cheers,
Steve

Need help solving an issue, play store misbehaving on my SM-T810

Hello, I hope I can post this here.. i tried, i searched... can't find any solution to my issue.
Model : SM-T810 , with Samsung 128GB UHS microSD. OS : stock Nougat from Samsung.
Here is the problem :
On the play store, if there are pending updates, they only install one at a time, and then it won't do more. Like if there is 5 pending updates, it will maybe do one, and then the other 4 stay pending. It might only do the download portion of the first one and not go to the install phase. If there's no pending updates, and i try to install an app, only the downloading portion of the process shows up, it stops after that, it doesn't go to installing. I have to close the store and go back in for it to install, but if there's a queue of downloads (updates or asked to install multiple apps), I have to close the store for the same amount of apps in the queue for them to install one by one. Now I noticed that every once and a while, 2 or 3 will have updated overnight but that's it!
I closed the process, I cleared the cache, I cleared the data, I cleared the download manager's data and cache, i rebooted, i forced a wrong date and time then set it to auto-date and time to retry, etc.... I uninstalled the Play Store updates, nothing worked!!!
The next step was to do a factory reset. I did not want to lose some progress on some games, AND I have an app to read PDF files and did not want to lose read/unread status of my files...
So I used Odin to flash TWRP, did a backup, rooted, used Titanium Backup to backup my apps.
Then I did factory reset. Store behaved normally again! Installed a few apps, waited a few hours, still good. Did a restore of my apps from titanium backup, everything seemed fine, then a few hours later, store still was not updating or installing the apps right...
Did another factory reset, store worked fine, only restored a couple of backed up apps (the critical ones that i wanted to keep the saves from), everything worked fine. Over the course of 24 hrs, i re-installed a bunch of my regular apps via the play store. Play store worked fine. I did to another Nandroid backup with TWRP just in case.
Then all of a sudden, it started to lag a bit between clicking install, to downloading, to installing. And then a few hours later, issue completely came back, store won't install without me closing it between the download finish and install.
Now one of the last steps I did before it started acting up again was moving ONE app to the SD card (not using any root features). I'm not sure if that caused the issue to come back.
I did notice that Android left a bunch of files on my SD card, some Android folder, with a bunch of subfolders.
I'm wondering if the SD card could be the culprit... I will do one last restore from my last working Nandroid backup and not move anything to the SD card.
If it comes up again, i think i will move the data that i have on my SD card that I dont want to loose (my PDF, pictures, etc.) on to my NAS, and do a factory reset without the SD card installed. Maybe even re-flash with Samsung Kies... and forget about my Titanium Backup saves...
It's my last resort so I was hoping anyone would have any idea on what else to try before doing that?
One last point : yes the stores kinda slows down at some point where the download process takes a few seconds to kick in, and then a few seconds to installing, up to the point where it never does. BUT the rest of my tablet still is really fast, no slow downs anywhere else... All apps launch fast
Thanks!
Auto updates are bad. They just kill the performance of your s2.. better do such things manually.
Niii4 said:
Auto updates are bad. They just kill the performance of your s2.. better do such things manually.
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Auto updates of the apps? Or the OS?
Apps i can see... but still... If I turn that off, that solves the issue of the auto-updates. But then if I want to update a bunch, they will only do one by one, i have to close the store and open again after each updated app.
But even with app auto-updates, if i want to install one new app on my S2, it will only download, but not install, i have to close the store and open it again for it to install. Then the next time that I want to install an app, I have to do the same thing again, close and open. It's like the download manager doesn't tell the Play Store app to do the install (or tell whatever app or service to install the APK...)
Niii4 said:
Auto updates are bad. They just kill the performance of your s2.. better do such things manually.
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What a bunch of nonsense. Please stop spreading misinformation.
@stefer09 A logcat reader may help you determine the cause of the issue.
Niii4 said:
Auto updates are bad. They just kill the performance of your s2.. better do such things manually.
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fonetyk said:
What a bunch of nonsense. Please stop spreading misinformation.
@stefer09 A logcat reader may help you determine the cause of the issue.
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Thanks, that's new for me, I'll read into it!
stefer09 said:
Thanks, that's new for me, I'll read into it!
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I am having the same issue on my sm-t810 as well hope you find a solution and post it.
Tabpro8.4 said:
I am having the same issue on my sm-t810 as well hope you find a solution and post it.
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After more research i've seen other people on other devices with same issue... no answer or solution in sight
if i find something ill come back here for sure
I had an OTA update last night to NRD90M.T810XXU2DQCL and the play store is working better now but it is still slow to update.
Tabpro8.4 said:
I had an OTA update last night to NRD90M.T810XXU2DQCL and the play store is working better now but it is still slow to update.
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Thanks for the info.
I would check for OTA update but since i rooted mine, it won't do them...
I'd have to flash the stock rom from samsung again and loose my saved data... which right now i might be OK living without...
Anyone knows if I loose TWRP if i flash a stock rom with odin ? If so... am i better using Kies?
Fair, let's recap: you do not use stock rom. You have root, twrp, flashed this and that and a morbid desire to have always the very lastest version of whatever the app. And now the Play store doesn't work properly anymore.. d
Do you see the pattern?
But, hey, maybe you need even more *lates updates* to fix your issue.
Updates = bad performance and new issues in general. Period.
Niii4 said:
Fair, let's recap: you do not use stock rom. You have root, twrp, flashed this and that and a morbid desire to have always the very lastest version of whatever the app. And now the Play store doesn't work properly anymore.. d
Do you see the pattern?
But, hey, maybe you need even more *lates updates* to fix your issue.
Updates = bad performance and new issues in general. Period.
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Wooooh, DON'T jump to conclusions here.
I was running the STOCK out of the box Android for the S2, no root, no TWRP. The issue started after one year of usage, and not only included updating apps but installing FRESH NEW ONES TOO.
The "flash this and that" came AFTER i ran into issues.
I also have a Note 5 supplied from work and for that reason I'm still runing stock, not rooted, and never will root it. I have over 100 apps on there, 5 email accounts (2 professionnal, 3 personnal), multiple google calendars, multiple outlook calendars, auto-update is on, it's been over a year and a half, if not more, and never ran into this kind of issue, ever! It's synced with my CPAP, my smart watch, and my headphones. And it's still goes the same speed and gives me the same performance as when i took it out of the box.
My tab S2 is my second Android tablet, before I had a Tab 3 that never gave me issues like that either, and always had auto-updates on.
Sometimes you need updates. Some online services might not work right or at all if you don't have the app that matches the features, like evernote, facebook, onedrive, dropbox, etc...
Or you get new hardware that requires an update.
Yes sometimes they include bugs ... which are fixed in a later version.
Niii4 said:
Fair, let's recap: you do not use stock rom. You have root, twrp, flashed this and that and a morbid desire to have always the very lastest version of whatever the app. And now the Play store doesn't work properly anymore.. d
Do you see the pattern?
But, hey, maybe you need even more *lates updates* to fix your issue.
Updates = bad performance and new issues in general. Period.
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In my case I do have stock rom and have had issues with play store since update to Nought. It does seem better since last night's OTA update.
Tabpro8.4 said:
In my case I do have stock rom and have had issues with play store since update to Nought. It does seem better since last night's OTA update.
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I saw multiple posts of people having different phones running stock having this exact issue for a while with no solution in view. I think it has to do with Nougat too... But my Note 5 is on Nougat and no issue... it might be brought on with specific services or apps running while on Nougat.
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In my case I do have stock rom and have had issues with play store since update to Nought. It does seem better since last night's OTA update.
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Thanks for letting me know about the OTA update. Since i was rooted, i can't get OTA updates, would have needed to wait for the 7.1 Rom to flash...
I ended up taking screenshots of the stuff i didnt want to loose (read/unread status of my pdf files, nevermind the save games) and then i used Samsung Smart Switch to reflash the whole thing back to strictly stock, lastest firmware. So far so good, crossing fingers
I*was*running the STOCK out of the box Android for the S2, no root, no TWRP. The issue started after one year of usage,
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Fair. So in this *year of usage* you never ever updated the OS?
And auto-update was of course *off*, right?
If that's the case, then clearly there must be some other issue with your s2.
Otherwise, you have merely confirmed what I have told in the very beginning: updates = bad performance and new issues in general. Period.
By the by, apps like evernote and facebook track and spy on you.
About your Note 5, maybe there weren't so many updates..
Niii4 said:
Fair. So in this *year of usage* you never ever updated the OS?
And auto-update was of course *off*, right?
If that's the case, then clearly there must be some other issue with your s2.
Otherwise, you have merely confirmed what I have told in the very beginning: updates = bad performance and new issues in general. Period.
By the by, apps like evernote and facebook track and spy on you.
About your Note 5, maybe there weren't so many updates..
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Yes in that year of usage I upgraded the OS from 5 to 6 to 7. Yes auto-update was on, for Android and for my apps. By stock rom i meant nothing flashed "this and that" like you said.
If you would read my other comments, you'd also realize that another member helped me more by letting me know there was an OTA update that helped him. I reflashed my S2 with Samsung Smart Switch and haven't had any issue with the Play Store since... that proves that updates do fix issues.
There's no OS versions, app versions, firmware versions on any devices that don't have any issues whatsoever. Updates might bring bugs but they also fix the ones from previous versions. If you think that anything stock out of the box never have any issues whatsoever, you're wrong.
Apps like evernote and facebook spy and track you? Really? And you're on a forum for Android based product and don't think that Google tracks what you do? If you dont sign in with your google account and only browse the web with your tablet, that's your business, but you can't go on forums and admonish people for doing otherwise.
Besides, this is a forum where a good part of the posts are about custom roms, flashing different boot/recovery loaders, different kernels, unlocking phones... and you're judging me because i do app updates, and flash "this and that" ?
Come on...
No judging here. Just pointed out the probem at hand.
You did update the OS at least twice.. see?
OEM updates = bad in general.
Sure, new updates fix what *previous updates* screwed up to begin with; sometimes.
I totally agree that there is no OS version that is 100% issue free, but -- why trying to fix something that seems to work?
You see, that is my whole point.
I told you about evernote and facebook because you mentioned to have them on your Note 5 which happens to be your professional work phone?!
Just be aware that Evernote steals content just like the FB messenger. And I mean literally. Your creative ideas become their property. You did agree to their terms! FB also records the mic(s) 24/7.
Certainly Google tracks and spies as well. Then again, you can deactivate or block (firewall) those services/apps.
Just remember, things that are *free* come with a price.
Niii4, I tried to subtely pass the message that I did not want any of your help when I said that SOMEONE ELSE helped me with their input and update.
I didn't say that I was using evernote and facebook on my Note 5 from work. Jumping to conclusions again.
You want to know what are the biggest secrets in my Evernote notes ??? RECIPES!!!!!
Oh no... they can read the oh so secret lemon crinkle cookies recipe that is available with a quick online search! Here's the link btw : http://www.laurenslatest.com/lemon-crinkle-cookies/
I came here after trying a lot of troubleshooting steps, when everything that I've tried failed. And someone else helped me.
All you brought to the table was misinformation about updates in general and spread paranoia on who is spying on who.
fonetyk asked you to stop that, and I asked you to stop that. So far my issue has been resolved and i'm thankful to the user Tabpro8.4 for his comment.
Please, please leave my thread.
First and foremost, this is a forum and thus other users that may encounter similar or the exact same problem(s) will seek to comprehend the whole issue at hand and not just one side of a problem.
Oh yeah, an OTA update seemed to have fixed it. Seemed.. for now.
Second, this is not exclusively about *helping you*. Apparently you are quite knowledge resistant, especially when facts are being stated that don't conform your general view.
True, you only have hundreds of apps on your work phone. But definitely not FB messenger or whatnot. Whatever. What's right is right, and what's fair is fair.
I suppose, you are probably right, the work you do must be of no interest for anybody in this world; at all. Same for your private life. Now, be a neat little sheep and go on chewing the green.. (while we are watching you).
Oh, and you stalking all my comments, telling people to ignore me is hilarious. Keep up the great whine. ?
Niii4 said:
First and foremost, this is a forum and thus other users that may encounter similiar or the exact same problem(s) will seek to comprehend the whole issue at hand and not just one side of a problem.
Oh yeah, an OTA update seemed to have fixed it. Seemed.. for now.
Second, this is not exclusively about *helping you*. Apparently you are quite knowledge resistant, especially when facts are being stated that don't conform your general view.
True, you only have hundreds of apps on your work phone. But definitely not FB messenger or whatnot. Whatever. What's right is right, and what's fair is fair.
I suppose, you are probably right, the work you do must be of no interest for anybody in this world; at all. Same for your private life. Now, be a neat little sheep and go on chewing the green.. (while we are watching you).
Oh, and you stalking all my comments, telling people to ignore me is hilarious. Keep up the great whine.
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Lol... knowledge resistant. Thats cute.
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Stalking your comments... ah! Maybe you got that dead pixel from trying to plug your bluray player on your tablet. Seriously clueless or just trolling...
My issue is resolved so im unsubbing from this thread.
Bye bye :good:

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