sounds like if this would work or be possible that this would definitely go in the DEV section because it would help fix our bootlooping phones when they happen and it will happen to some if not many before an sbf or cwm is available. if i am wrong please move to proper place. Sorry
NO i am not bootlooping yet but was wondering if anyone was (stuck on a bootloop) maybe they could try this method below and confirm that this BP tools when boot looping does or does not work for bionic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1236465
I have tried it in every mode recovery fastboot sfb bp only bp****** and BP tools
and none of them apparently let me have adb access but as soon as i reboot and go back into the phone normally i have adb again
I am sure that most of you would see the potential to get this working so we can correct mistakes when we make them and it would make modding the system a lot easier considering we could correct it if it bootlooped on us.
Please MODs with experience does this have any merit as being possible on the bionic
Thanks
Ive been bootlooping every time i reboot im tired of wiping mu phone and reseting everything.
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I have a bionic which I replaced my app folder with a non full system app dump and because of this my phone is now bootlooping. Do we have a fix for this yet?
For those that have a boot loop bionic please try the steps in the thread in first post and see if it works for you and let me know
If this can fix a bootloop then we can do a lot more changing to our phones without being afraid of it screwing something up.
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I am stuck in a bootloop right now and can try this out. I haven't used adb before or the terminal but am familiar with how it works.
Which directory must I navigate to in the terminal before spewing those commands listed in the link in the thread of the OP?
I may be completely off here but if I understand bootloop correctly(the device goes to the droid screen, then the eye, then back to droid,then eye, repeat)I've ran into bootloop twice if that's what it is. The one thing that got me through this was actually to pull the battery, hold both volume buttons then power to get into the Boot Mode Selection Menu and select the first option which I believe is Normal Boot. This worked both times to go from looping on those two screens to a perfect boot. Have no idea if this will help but thought I would throw it out there.
If you're bootlooping, SBF (or FTZ? now) - problem solved. You will never find an app or whatever you are looking for that will prevent a bootloop. We root our phones and play with system files, replace frameworks, etc. That comes with the territory. If you want to avoid bootloops - don't root and stay stock.
And post questions in general. Questions do not belong in development. You just (and consequently myself) bumped an actual development thread down.
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Yep
mistawolfe said:
If you're bootlooping, SBF (or FTZ? now) - problem solved. You will never find an app or whatever you are looking for that will prevent a bootloop. We root our phones and play with system files, replace frameworks, etc. That comes with the territory. If you want to avoid bootloops - don't root and stay stock.
And post questions in general. Questions do not belong in development. You just (and consequently myself) bumped an actual development thread down.
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I don't mind hitting obstacles like bootloops, its how I learn. As long as I can flash Stock FTZ were good. I'll be doing that shortly. Thank you.
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I have seen quite a few people asking if we can flash the optimus 3d recovery and also people asking how, to here are the instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=929628
I am pushing my luck with the AT&T store already being on my 3rd thrill,
the recovery file can be found at
http://download.clockworkmod.com/recoveries/recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-p920.img
This could brick your phone don't try unless you understand the risk.
Did you try on your phone?
CWM
No I havent yet, not sure why it wouldn't work the phones are the same other than the radio to my understanding.
hoping maybe there is someone braver than me. If not maybe I'll do it tomorrow.
What is the benefit of doing this? Enabling the built-in tethering?
CWM
This would alow us a to get a little closer to custom roms.
How are you on your third phone?
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first one monday morning I woke up and it wouldn't turn on nothing, second one I tried the tweaks that are listed for the optimus 3d rather than wait for a fix I finished it and took it back in and told them it was the same thing. kinda scared to do much to this one.
Haha I made a custom Framework-res.apk for my phone... All I did was change the colors of some things.... But im afraid to try it with everybody bricking their devices... Haha. And we dont have CWM to recover if it does put me in boot loop... If anyone else wants to give it a whirl you can find it under the development forum for our device...
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Well I tried the adb method and got permission denied, maybe someone with a little more experience can figure it out.
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Well I tried the adb method and got permission denied, maybe someone with a little more experience can figure it out.
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how did you get into ADB with your thrill...? ive been trying for like an hour now...
are you running the lattest version of sdk and they have moved adb into a different folder.
made some progress found out that LG left out the flash_image in the system/bin. might have to pull this out of the optimus 3D if anyone has access to this if you would post it and I will try it again.
I might be making a fool of myself for trying this but hey got to learn some how.
Nobody with an optimus 3d has it either.... I posted the request over on the optimus forum and novody could find it.....
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Here is a question as well so the radio on this phone is the only difference between this and the Optimus right? If that's so once we figure out how to get CWM on our phones wouldn't making a custom Rom be as Simple as taking an Optimus Rom pulling the Radio and putting the Radio from this Phone were the other one went? Just wondering. Regardless though need CWM first. I would do it but can't afford the brick.
ADB is working fine for me. I have a shell up now. Haven't tried to push CWM yet though im still preoccupied with deodexing, zipaligning, and deleting ATT's BS
Flashed recovery but it's not working
I flashed the recovery using adb, but I can't enter recovery mode. I'm pressing the vol down, 3d and power buttons until the LG screen appears. The phone just boots normally.
how did you get it to flash please give step by step method
drsheph said:
I flashed the recovery using adb, but I can't enter recovery mode. I'm pressing the vol down, 3d and power buttons until the LG screen appears. The phone just boots normally.
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Don't release volume down + 3D button til CWM comes up.
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I think I understand how safestrap works (it installs some kind of hijack to boot /preinstall instead of booting /system) but I have been reading a number of users who have bricked their phone...
I basically have the SafeStrap install screen up, but am hesitant to do this...
Just a few questions before I take the plunge
1) Why are so many users having problems with safesrap? I download the Droid3 version 1.08 for use on my Bell Motorola XT860 4G
2) What exactly does safestrap do in the boot loading sequence? If this is not public knowledge (and might be worked out "against" please, no harm, I'm just wondering, so if I could get an idea as how the hijack works, either in the thread or PM that would help greatly)
3) If you restore the original system and disable the hijack, will that really bring me back to complete original stock? What if they patch the boot partition as they did last time?
Thanks for all your help guys! I know a lot of you have been using custom roms, I really want to load up ICS on here, and it's almost ready for prime-time so I just want to be prepared!
First off, I have an XT862 not the XT860. The hijack is a 2nd init hijack. Safestrap does this hijack itself as opposed to with bootstrap where whatever ROM you flash has to do the hijack. Safestrap also as you mentioned uses /preinstall to store /system of the ROM you flash. This means that nothing other than safestrap itself touches your stock /system. This allows safestrap to protect itself so you can always get back to recovery even if there is a bad flash it can't overwrite the hijack and recovery so you can try again.
I also don't remember seeing much of problems with safestrap itself other than a partition size problem. I think I remember seeing that some update took care of that problem. I have seen people having more problems with ROMs on the XT860 than other versions of the phone.
danifunker said:
I think I understand how safestrap works (it installs some kind of hijack to boot /preinstall instead of booting /system) but I have been reading a number of users who have bricked their phone...
I basically have the SafeStrap install screen up, but am hesitant to do this...
Just a few questions before I take the plunge
1) Why are so many users having problems with safesrap? I download the Droid3 version 1.08 for use on my Bell Motorola XT860 4G
2) What exactly does safestrap do in the boot loading sequence? If this is not public knowledge (and might be worked out "against" please, no harm, I'm just wondering, so if I could get an idea as how the hijack works, either in the thread or PM that would help greatly)
3) If you restore the original system and disable the hijack, will that really bring me back to complete original stock? What if they patch the boot partition as they did last time?
Thanks for all your help guys! I know a lot of you have been using custom roms, I really want to load up ICS on here, and it's almost ready for prime-time so I just want to be prepared!
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First off, the most common problem I have seen people have with safestrap is not understanding what it does and even more common is not knowing how to use it, basically a lot of user error. The previous poster summed up pretty well how it works. Finally, uninstalling safestrap will NOT bring you back to original stock, it will remove itself and the secondary ROM it allowed you to install. Since you have to be rooted to even install it, if you uninstall it you will still be rooted, not stock.
Just so you are clear, you can have whatever ROM you want on your phone BEFORE installing Safestrap and this will become the Safe system by default. You will no longer be able to change this ROM as long as Safestrap is installed. Instead, it allows you to put another ROM, basically a dual-boot, in addition to the original rom you have. Now you have a Safe system and a Non safe system. The Non safe system is the only one Safestrap will allow you to change (and brick for that matter). So if/when you install a ROM that boot loops or crashes, you simply can revert back to your safe system and now your phone works again, neat huh?
AFAIK, he does have the XT860, since the XT862 is the Verizon Droid 3 (3G, not Bell Canada 4G). Also, using it on my 862, I have not been able to brick it. If flashing the experimental system fails, you can just reboot into the Safestrap menu and flash something new. I don't see why it wouldn't work on the 860, as all it does it modify the booting. Any issues would most likely be caused by a ROM flashing issue, not safestrap.
I took the plunge this afternoon... Installed SafeStrap and CM9 nightly on my device... Not sure if everything is working just yet, but will be doing testing throughout the day
No problems were reported with the installation or instructions, so that's great. Thanks a lot!
I'm using a XT860 (Brazilian Vivo, but I'm not sure if it's 4G - LTE - compatible, I know that it works with 3.5G).
I have Safestrap 3.0.5 installed and I'm using all the 4 slots (MavROM, Minimoto, CM9 e CM10). All of then runs well (with their particular issues), none of them caused any trouble on the phone.
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I'm using a XT860 (Brazilian Vivo, but I'm not sure if it's 4G - LTE - compatible, I know that it works with 3.5G).
I have Safestrap 3.0.5 installed and I'm using all the 4 slots (MavROM, Minimoto, CM9 e CM10). All of then runs well (with their particular issues), none of them caused any trouble on the phone.
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Same here. I'm using it on a Brazilian TIM, no problems at all. I have two active slots( Stock, Gummy 0.90) and two for testing.
It is in fact the best recovery that I've used, so far.
Thiago AmP said:
I'm using a XT860 (Brazilian Vivo, but I'm not sure if it's 4G - LTE - compatible, I know that it works with 3.5G).
I have Safestrap 3.0.5 installed and I'm using all the 4 slots (MavROM, Minimoto, CM9 e CM10). All of then runs well (with their particular issues), none of them caused any trouble on the phone.
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None of the d3 variants are LTE capable
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Endoroid said:
None of the d3 variants are LTE capable
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Yeah, I realize that before reviewing its radio specs.
Munckster said:
Same here. I'm using it on a Brazilian TIM, no problems at all. I have two active slots( Stock, Gummy 0.90) and two for testing.
It is in fact the best recovery that I've used, so far.
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@Munckster
Actually, after trying to acess a SD Card partition with Link2SD, I lost acess to Recovery. I'm stuck on the stock ROM (root keeps on, but SafeStrap 3.05 doesn't work).
Installed Titanium Backup to keep my data safe, but it isn't working too. I'm going to reinstall it later.
I'm afraid that I'll have to uninstall all my root apps, unroot the phone and do all the process again...
I'm very newbie at linux and Android and I'm doing all that by reading (a lot). I'd apreciate if someone could tell how to deal with this problem.
Thiago AmP said:
Yeah, I realize that before reviewing its radio specs.
@Munckster
Actually, after trying to acess a SD Card partition with Link2SD, I lost acess to Recovery. I'm stuck on the stock ROM (root keeps on, but SafeStrap 3.05 doesn't work).
Installed Titanium Backup to keep my data safe, but it isn't working too. I'm going to reinstall it later.
I'm afraid that I'll have to uninstall all my root apps, unroot the phone and do all the process again...
I'm very newbie at linux and Android and I'm doing all that by reading (a lot). I'd apreciate if someone could tell how to deal with this problem.
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Try shutting the phone off and powering up while holding m, then using vol down select bp tools from the list that appears, and confirm with vol up.
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Endoroid said:
Try shutting the phone off and powering up while holding m, then using vol down select bp tools from the list that appears, and confirm with vol up.
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I've already tried it, but without success... I'll keep searching what to do in this situation...
Thiago AmP said:
Actually, after trying to acess a SD Card partition with Link2SD, I lost acess to Recovery. I'm stuck on the stock ROM (root keeps on, but SafeStrap 3.05 doesn't work).
Installed Titanium Backup to keep my data safe, but it isn't working too. I'm going to reinstall it later.
I'm afraid that I'll have to uninstall all my root apps, unroot the phone and do all the process again...
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Unrooting seems like overkill. If you are "stuck" on stock, I would just start the Safestrap app. Click the button to uninstall recovery and restart the phone. Then open Safestrap again, click the button to install recovery, and restart the phone. Hopefully the Safestrap menu will show and you can then activate recovery.
So long as you do not erase anything on the internal storage, your slots should still be there.
doogald said:
Unrooting seems like overkill. If you are "stuck" on stock, I would just start the Safestrap app. Click the button to uninstall recovery and restart the phone. Then open Safestrap again, click the button to install recovery, and restart the phone. Hopefully the Safestrap menu will show and you can then activate recovery.
So long as you do not erase anything on the internal storage, your slots should still be there.
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I've tried it several times before I came with the idea of unroot my phone and redo the process. Here is my dicoveries http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2082292
I know that it's obvious, but I guess that just few people knew that it would work.
SafeStrap problems
Odd problem, I can't get the menu button to work. In order to get back to my "safe" rom I have to start safestrap,and select uninstall recovery.
Then reboot, and it will bring up my "Safe" rom. If I then go back to SafeStrap, and re-install the recovery, and reboot, it will again bring up SafeStrap, but if I hit Menu, it doesnt' bring up any options it again boots up my non-safe ROM (minimoto 1.6)
Anyone have any ideas...I guess I can try to remove the safestrap directory on the sdcard after I uninstall the recover, and then try to reinstall the App, and try all over again?
Okay well I. Still pretty new to the rooting thing and everything but I have a major problem. Well let's start that I rooted my phone and stated to mess around with some roms so used safestrap and I fished may phone to liberty 3 rom but I wanted my main frame to be liberty so I deleted safestrap and uninstalled it also then I downloaded bootstrap and flashed liberty 3 rom to my main frame then I uninstalled bootstrap and downloaded safestrap and flashed steel DROID rom to my second frame so I could learn little about each rom on my free time. Now all I did was switch back to non safe mode which is my liberty 3 rom and this was my primary screen that I used. I didn't get the chance to even do anything else and my phone was working perfectly for like 2 months then now it doing some crazy stuff.
First it stared losing service all the time just randomly when I always get service in these areas. Then it started losing service an telling me it has no sim card then it would flash this half black green saying something like bp core mode trying to open usb. It would do this for a few minutes the. It will reboot. And I will not have any service but I can use my wifi but now I have no service at all ant text or call. Now I tryed to clear everything then reflash my rom back and still nothing.. then I used the the one click unbrick your phone and still got no service but every once in a while it will get service bak then do everything ll over...
What do I do? Did I really screw my phone up/?
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Look in my signature for the SBF there is a thread by chaoticweaponry that let's you download the fast boot files that can be flashed via motofastboot or rdslite
With that you recover your phone from this kind of behavior( bad flash,hiccup,etc) , given that you didn't updated to a more recent stock ( DON'T update beyond 5.6.890) the sbf is this version and update$ and recover up to that version and before.
If you already updated then you can only flash certain partitions but that's another REPLY hhahh
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Im new to this whole rooting thing. Also do understand what you mean about the whole signature thing. Where exactly can I find this thread.
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Is there a good step by step thing I could follow. If possible if not its cool but thanks.
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ryanw5489 said:
Is there a good step by step thing I could follow. If possible if not its cool but thanks.
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The signature is the text under his main post. Here is a link to the thread he is talking about
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339816&highlight=unbrick
Follow the steps there.
slayer621 said:
The signature is the text under his main post. Here is a link to the thread he is talking about
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339816&highlight=unbrick
Follow the steps there.
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yeah sorry i was on the phone so i didnt had the link at hand
in that thread its a file on this link http://bit.ly/D3UnBrick (courtesy of redsox985 )
that file and the instructions on the first post on that thread should get you saved.
be carefull to not flash the UPDATE LEAKS as they are not easily recoverable yet.
I believe that i did this already and did not work. so im alittle lost on what else i could do?
Bp paiced
Bp core dump mode
trying to open usb
This is what is says when my screen flashes half black on the top half of my phone. Its says this in the black part in white letters you can still see the bottom half of the sreen you can even touch the screen and it will still work but after a couple of min it will shut down and reboot.
i have already done the flash verizon method this has not worked!
Dont know what else to do?
I have a bionic that i system updated to 5.9.902 a couple days after i got it. Then i made the mistake of coming here and messing up my phone because i have no idea what I'm doing
I installed safestrap and did the whole noob step by step guide. Installed eclipse and a couple other roms. For some reason i wiped my internal and external storage. I have no backups of anything.
I've tried releasedroot, petes, rds lite with the 902 xml. I got stuck all the time with what seemed to be a driver issue.
I just want to return this thing to stock and stop messing with it
As of now when I press power i go straight to ap fast boot flash failure screen. I press power to power off and hold vol up and down to boot into recovery but just pick the normal boot option. Phone then boots into what seems to be my stock 902. I dont know if im rooted anymore.
If i could rid my phone of this flash failure and safestrap, i would be stupid happy
Anyone out there willing to help a total noob? If any more info is needed I'd be happy to provide
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What error did you receive using rsdlite?
When you go into your phone settings..can you verify your on 902?
I'm at work now but it was some sort of usb failure. It got stuck on 1/22 mbm something.
Yes as of right now im on 902.
Is there a tutorial on how to completely remove usb drivers? Even though rsdlite says I'm connected, I don't see my phone drivers in device manager. That's where I think I'm going wrong but not really sure.
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Cool. I'm at work too. When would you be available?
About 5pm est ... thanks alot dude
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Send me a PM when your available.
I tried to pm you but xda force closed. I replied to, i believe, your hotmail
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I was attempting to work through applying the .218 update to my droid 4. It was giving me a system validation error while when it was running in recovery. I found a thread that stated I needed to replace the apks and odex's as well as the build.prop. I didn't read it carefully enough as it said to replace *THE* problem ones. My validation error was on the build.prop file, I think.
In any case, I was using root explorer to copy *ALL* the files from a base zip file's app folder into the /system/app folder. Things were going along fine, until the phone app forced closed, then the phone rebooted.
Now I'm boot looping.
What can I do? I don't have any safe straps.
Can't access safestrap? Stock recovery? Adb services?
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The Magician Type 0 said:
Can't access safestrap? Stock recovery? Adb services?
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thanks for the reply...
I don't have safestrap installed on the device, and I've never used it. I don't think that's an option, unless you have something up your sleeve there
As for Stock recovery, I'd love to give it a try, but I don't know how that would work. I can't get to ADB because I can't boot the phone.
I *CAN* get into the bootloader. From there, I can get into recovery, AP Fastboot, BP SBF Flash BP boot... and others.
So, I'm hoping there's some kind of way to push to the device from one of the boot loader options. I've had a Droid 1, and a number of other android devices, but I've never gotten this far into a hole before.
again... thanks for whatever you got
It doesn't look good my friend, not without a SBF to flash. The only thing I can think of off the top of my head would be to try flashing the update again and cross your fingers that you got things in place before the bootloop. However I'm 99.9% sure that won't work. If I find anything else I'll let you now, but at this point you might be a sitting duck.
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It doesn't look good my friend, not without a SBF to flash. The only thing I can think of off the top of my head would be to try flashing the update again and cross your fingers that you got things in place before the bootloop. However I'm 99.9% sure that won't work. If I find anything else I'll let you now, but at this point you might be a sitting duck.
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I have the update on the SD Card, and nope, flashing it results in the same system validation error, and a bootloop.
thanks. Do you think that flashing the RAZR sbf's would get me a booting device? I only got the thing 14 days ago. Maybe I can exchange it
jbeazell said:
I have the update on the SD Card, and nope, flashing it results in the same system validation error, and a bootloop.
thanks. Do you think that flashing the RAZR sbf's would get me a booting device? I only got the thing 14 days ago. Maybe I can exchange it
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If you're still in the 14 day return window I would try to return it. If it can't get past the bootloader than they won't know you rooted it. Just tell them you tried to do the update and it bootlooped. That's probably you're safest bet.
kwyrt said:
If you're still in the 14 day return window I would try to return it. If it can't get past the bootloader than they won't know you rooted it. Just tell them you tried to do the update and it bootlooped. That's probably you're safest bet.
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I'm heading down there in a few minutes. Thanks for the help all ! I think I'm getting the razr maxx. My wife has one and the screen on that thing is incredible. I think it's worth losing the keyboard to get that screen... and the battery life. That part is also incredible.
again.. thanks.
BTW, you guys absolutely rock. You've helped me out of some serious holes with my OG Droid and other devices more often than I can count.
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You can use bp tools to push over a clean system. I believe theres a tutorial somewhere that written for bionic. Just replace that with the droid 4 system. I would extract it from one of the stock roms available and push it thru bp tools.
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Can you link that tutorial? I'm also trying to figure out how to use adb via stock recovery. Thanks!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1236465
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Thanks!
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Let me know
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It sounds like OP is going to exchange their phone, but could you really just replace the entire /system folder and have it work? (Nothing special with permissions, etc?)
If so, that is definitely something worth knowing...
Yes i believe so.
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