Hey,
If I have a 2.3.3 stock rom with bootloders and CWM, and i want to flash a custom 2.3.4 rom, do i need to flash a 2.3.4 stock or can i just flash the custom rom with CWM?
basically i need to know if I can skip the stock flash with odin.
You can skip it, but I wouldnt advise it, I would flash 2.3.4 then root then choose your rom.
As i understand it the main reason is bootloders, and 2.3 has the same bootloaders does not matter which 2.3.x version, all have the same bootloaders.
Or did i get it wrong?
No i think ure correct. But it only takes two mins to flask stock. Try it if you like man
You can follow the steps recommended by developer of the custom rom.
To be sure you avoid the nasty thing is better to make an (optional) Hard rest of the phone and after flash a stock rom (I suppose JVR) with his boot loader.
DSGE said:
You can follow the steps recommended by developer of the custom rom.
To be sure you avoid the nasty thing is better to make an (optional) Hard rest of the phone and after flash a stock rom (I suppose JVR) with his boot loader.
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The bootloaders are the same so it doesn't matter.
any way I did it without flashing a stock rom and all is good.
Thats good man, pleased u got sorted out.
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Hello guys. I have installed several ROMs in my Captivate (Seren 6.4, Seren 7, Apex, Pinnacle, Fasty II, Fusion VI, currently on Fusion VII KI2). I ALWAYS go back to JH2 then JH7 using Odin3, because my phone is Build #1105, and OdinOneCLick does not support my build. I know it sounds cumbersome, but I can flash from a custom ROM to another one in approximately 10 minutes doing the process stated above, so it's not a big deal. I have also ALWAYS followed this process, regardless of the instruction for installation of any ROM, and have never had a problem
Here's the thing. I know that Odin installs boot loaders, and that every time I go back to Eclair, I am removing GB boot loaders and installing Eclair loaders. That increases the chance of me bricking my phone. I already have GB boot loaders, so before I install my next custom ROM (Fusion IX), is there an alternative for me regarding going back to stock?
I think only the one click contains boots, but you could just Flash a stock gingerbread...
Although flashing to stock before every flash is completely not needed. At this point Odin is for initially getting the gingerbread boots and then as a fix to recovery from a broken os. Every time is just overkill.
As studacris mention Its not needed. Most of the time you can just wipe and it works just fine. BUT there are some times where a wipe gives you a funky flash, in wich case any leaked "stock" with out bootloaders should work just fine. Also there are some times where Dev's ask for it in wich case you already know.
thanks for the replies fellas!
The only exception to that us if you are on an aosp (MIUI/cm7) type ROM. You have to flash a stock package to repartition the file system. But, if you need that, there is a kf1 stock in my sig that works well.
I don't flash back to stock unless needed. I went from Apex to Fusion by just flashing the new BL, then rom.
I keep the rom in my internal prior to flashing in case I'm stuck in a boot loop (as I was when flashing a new bootloader) .
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The only exception to that us if you are on an aosp (MIUI/cm7) type ROM. You have to flash a stock package to repartition the file system. But, if you need that, there is a kf1 stock in my sig that works well.
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So we can just use KF1 or any stock GB one click (I always use KH3 one click)?
Also I am on CM7.1 now, if I have to go to Att GB bootloader, Can I used one clicks without BL?
If you are using kh3, you should have GB already (unless you use the no bootloader package). It doesn't really matter which GB bootloaders you have, as long as you have them when you flash one of the GB stock roms. The only thing that matters when going from aosp to Samsung roms is that you have to repartition the file system, converting back to rfs from ext4/yaffs2. It's really what you prefer. I use the kf1 no boot package because it's what I have (since I created it). I didn't feel like dl'ing a new package.
If you are on an aosp ROM with eclair/froyo bootloaders, I would recommend kb2.
Whether you use GB or froyo, it is necessary to use Odin or Heimdall on Linux to repartition (if i'm wrong about the Linux part,Adam can correct me). Simply trying to flash in cwm will not currently accomplish this.
Samsung fixed my captivate after the mini USB port broke and I intentionally bricked it with an Odin flash pull because they would have known it was modded/custom rommed. So they fixed it and sent it back and everything works(Thanks Samsung!) but the problem is that they flashed the new 2.3 update which is sooo slow/laggy and featureless compared to Cyanogenmod7 181 nightly that I used to have on my phone. What I want to ask is if I can Odin-one-click back to JF6 stock 2.1 from 2.3(ATT GB bootloaders I think?) and then go about rooting and such from there to get Cyanogenmod back onto my phone.
Thanks,
kind3rgarten.
Yes you can....but that's more work than it's worth.
Just flash a custom kernel with Odin...boot into recovery with button combos and flash whatever ROM you want. easy as pie
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Yes you can....but that's more work than it's worth.
Just flash a custom kernel with Odin...boot into recovery with button combos and flash whatever ROM you want. easy as pie
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Thank you for the answer, but I am more familiar with flashing the rom this way. Are you sure I could do it this way? There wouldn't be a problem with the bootloaders or anything?
this way == odin1click back to JF6 then root then CWM then flash CM7 and gapps
also, would there be any difference in performance/battery life or anything if I were to go your route?
If you used it before it's still ok, just like i said that's a much longer process than what's needed, and by flashing bootloaders when you don't need you're taking an unnecessary brick risk to downgrade to obsolete bootloaders. Gingerbread boots are backward compatible, so they will work with ANYTHING. so why go back and then if you wanna use a tw gingerbread ROM you'd have to update to the new ones anyway.
your process:
Flash to 2.1
Root
Get cwm
Flash ROM
And that includes bootloaders so if it disconnects you could brick.
best way
Flash kernel to get cwm
Flash ROM
2 steps and no bootloaders so at the very very worst case scenario, you get stuck in a bootloop which is much easier to fix than a hard brick.
That being said you're way will work, so whatever floats your boat...
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If you used it before it's still ok, just like i said that's a much longer process than what's needed, and by flashing bootloaders when you don't need you're taking as brick risk.
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Plus, if you ever decide to try a Gingerbread ROM, you'll have to reflash the bootloaders again anyway, again risking a brick.
If you really want to go back to 2.1, I would still use a bootloader free package.
^^^Lmfao... I always hit the submit post button before i finish my thought, i just added in that bit you mentioned while you were posting that lol
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If you used it before it's still ok, just like i said that's a much longer process than what's needed, and by flashing bootloaders when you don't need you're taking an unnecessary brick risk to downgrade to obsolete bootloaders. Gingerbread boots are backward compatible, so they will work with ANYTHING. so why go back and then if you wanna use a tw gingerbread ROM you'd have to update to the new ones anyway.
your process:
Flash to 2.1
Root
Get cwm
Flash ROM
And that includes bootloaders so if it disconnects you could brick.
best way
Flash kernel to get cwm
Flash ROM
2 steps and no bootloaders so at the very very worst case scenario, you get stuck in a bootloop which is much easier to fix than a hard brick.
That being said you're way will work, so whatever floats your boat...
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So would I just flash a kernel that already has root/CWM? Then flash CM7/gapps on top of that?
I would post a link, but I don't post here too often.
Like this?
androidforums[DOT]com/captivate-all-things-root/483646-guide-root-official-2-3-5-guide.html
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Plus, if you ever decide to try a Gingerbread ROM, you'll have to reflash the bootloaders again anyway, again risking a brick.
If you really want to go back to 2.1, I would still use a bootloader free package.
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Yeah, I see what you mean, thanks. Can bootloaders effect battery life, because I remember that I didn't get the best battery life in CM7?
Cm7 is aosp based it doesn't have all the closed source hardware drivers of touch wiz, so the battery life will be worse.
As for the kernel, any will work. It's not a kernel you're going to be running it's just a transitory kernel used only for it's recovery. Any ROM you flash will include a compatible kernel and be rooted.
Hold on I'll find you a kk4 kernel so it won't bootloop even though you don't need it to boot all the way anyway... Brb
Edit: kk4 corn kernel grab the Odin flashable version of corse.
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Cm7 is aosp based it doesn't have all the closed source hardware drivers of touch wiz, so the battery life will be worse.
As for the kernel, any will work. It's not a kernel you're going to be running it's just a transitory kernel used only for it's recovery. Any ROM you flash will include a compatible kernel and be rooted.
Hold on I'll find you a kk4 kernel so it won't bootloop even though you don't need it to boot all the way anyway... Brb
Edit: kk4 corn kernel grab the Odin flashable version of corse.
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Thanks for all the help. So I just flash this and then get into CWM and flash whatever rom I want to?
Sweet!
You got it chief
kind3rgarten said:
Thanks for all the help. So I just flash this and then get into CWM and flash whatever rom I want to?
Sweet!
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Correct. If you remember to put CM7 and GAPPS on the SD card before you flash it, you won't even have to boot it. Just flash it, three finger salute into recovery, and flash cm7.
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You got it chief
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Wow, I really expected someone to just call me a noob or tell me to read the FAQ or something. Thanks a lot, both of you.
I downloaded the corn kernel, but I've never really flashed a kernel through odin before, always just the method I had stated, does it go in PDA?
kind3rgarten said:
Wow, I really expected someone to just call me a noob or tell me to read the FAQ or something. Thanks a lot, both of you.
I downloaded the corn kernel, but I've never really flashed a kernel through odin before, always just the method I had stated, does it go in PDA?
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You got it, just leave the others blank. You shouldn't have to play with the check boxes.
I recently upgraded my Note to official ICS (OTA) and I'm not liking it AT ALL! Now I really want to get far away from this update as possible and I'd like to switch to a CM9 nightly Rom. I've that now that I have upgraded to the official ICS Rom, I run the risk of super bricking my device. So now I ask you to help me make sure the following is correct so that I may move on from this wretched update:
DO NOT perform wipes if you are on original Samsung ICS
DO NOT perform wipes if you are on a original Samsung kernel??
Flash back to original Gingerbread Rom using odin BEFORE flashing to CM9
Flash to different kernel??
I've flashed millions of Roms but this one is scary and I just want to make sure haven't missed anything... Have I?
Thanks for you help!!
John J
Just flash a stock directly rootable GB rom, root and put CM9 on it. Then do a factory reset and you're good to go. Went that way few times already.
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Just flash a stock directly rootable GB rom, root and put CM9 on it. Then do a factory reset and you're good to go. Went that way few times already.
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Thanks a lot man!! This is pretty much what I thought but I wanted to make ABSOLUTE sure! Cheers!
John J
So is the super-brick BUG on the official ICS OTA?? OMG
And yeah go back to gingerbrear via odin, get root then flash any CM9 tru CWM no problems...
I'd like to do something similar to what the OP wants to do however I have rooted and installed CWM on an official/stock ICS rom. So if I wanted to flash back to a stock gingerbread rom would I need to remove CWM and/or un-root?
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I'd like to do something similar to what the OP wants to do however I have rooted and installed CWM on an official/stock ICS rom. So if I wanted to flash back to a stock gingerbread rom would I need to remove CWM and/or un-root?
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There is no need to unroot first. You can flash stock GB rom directly via Odin.
I've now flashed to GB but before I move on to a CM9 nightly, do you recommend I flash the CM9 kernel as well? Seems like it is not a prerequisite but I would like to make sure. Thanks.
John J
afaik, when flashing a CM9 Nightly, the eligible kernel is built in, so no need to flash anything but the ROM.
i'm on one of imilkas first CM9 port and it says [email protected] #1 under Kernel version in settings.
Yes. The correct kernel is included in the nightly.
Hello,
I've being reading a lot this forums and I really wish to Flash a custom Rom.
My steps so far:
I updated my Galaxy Note N7000 throught Odin to version 4.0.4.
Then I rooted the phone using CWM folling the instructions from dr.ketan.
Can I just simply flash a rom using CWM or should I downgrade the phone to GB? Do I have to flash a custom Kernel or no? BTW mine is stock.
I really wish to flash a rom but i dont want to brick my phone.
Sorry for my English, is not my main language.
Thanks
If you're familiar with using Odin and flashing ROMs like that, then I mostly recommend reverting to GB, getting root + CWM also according to dr. Ketan's guide. You'll find stock GB and how to root them in the Development Section Stickies
So far, the only 100% safe way to flash custom ROMs (ICS or others) through CWM is with a working Gingerbread CWM. Some would recommend flashing through Abyss Kernel, or flashing through mobile Odin.
Again, and this is coming from one of our top-notch devs... The only 100% safe way is to flash from a rooted GB.
Also, while we're on it, may I also recommend Cyanogen Mod 9 (you'll find it in the General section of the forum) and CM9 - based ROMs. They have a safe kernel, that means you can flash and full-wipe as much as you want from CM, without reverting back to GB. CM9 also gave me the best performance and battery consumption so far. Only disadvantage would be if you don't like the stock Android look and would rather have an S3 - feel or TouchWiz or whatever.
Also VERY IMPORTANT!!! DO NOT FULL-WIPE (Factory Reset) from your ICS!!! That's how phones get bricked, that's why you shouldn't flash from stock rooted ICS!
Best of luck and let me know if you need anything else!
Cheers and welcome to XDA
Helpful Links:
- Stock ROMs
- Rooting and CWM
- Cyanogen Mod 9 (If you decide to use it)
eug3n91 said:
If you're familiar with using Odin and flashing ROMs like that, then I mostly recommend reverting to GB, getting root + CWM also according to dr. Ketan's guide. You'll find stock GB and how to root them in the Development Section Stickies
So far, the only 100% safe way to flash custom ROMs (ICS or others) through CWM is with a working Gingerbread CWM. Some would recommend flashing through Abyss Kernel, or flashing through mobile Odin.
Again, and this is coming from one of our top-notch devs... The only 100% safe way is to flash from a rooted GB.
Also, while we're on it, may I also recommend Cyanogen Mod 9 (you'll find it in the General section of the forum) and CM9 - based ROMs. They have a safe kernel, that means you can flash and full-wipe as much as you want from CM, without reverting back to GB. CM9 also gave me the best performance and battery consumption so far. Only disadvantage would be if you don't like the stock Android look and would rather have an S3 - feel or TouchWiz or whatever.
Also VERY IMPORTANT!!! DO NOT FULL-WIPE (Factory Reset) from your ICS!!! That's how phones get bricked, that's why you shouldn't flash from stock rooted ICS!
Best of luck and let me know if you need anything else!
Cheers and welcome to XDA
Helpful Links:
- Stock ROMs
- Rooting and CWM
- Cyanogen Mod 9 (If you decide to use it)
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^^ This
eug3n91 said:
If you're familiar with using Odin and flashing ROMs like that, then I mostly recommend reverting to GB, getting root + CWM also according to dr. Ketan's guide. You'll find stock GB and how to root them in the Development Section Stickies
So far, the only 100% safe way to flash custom ROMs (ICS or others) through CWM is with a working Gingerbread CWM. Some would recommend flashing through Abyss Kernel, or flashing through mobile Odin.
Again, and this is coming from one of our top-notch devs... The only 100% safe way is to flash from a rooted GB.
Also, while we're on it, may I also recommend Cyanogen Mod 9 (you'll find it in the General section of the forum) and CM9 - based ROMs. They have a safe kernel, that means you can flash and full-wipe as much as you want from CM, without reverting back to GB. CM9 also gave me the best performance and battery consumption so far. Only disadvantage would be if you don't like the stock Android look and would rather have an S3 - feel or TouchWiz or whatever.
Also VERY IMPORTANT!!! DO NOT FULL-WIPE (Factory Reset) from your ICS!!! That's how phones get bricked, that's why you shouldn't flash from stock rooted ICS!
Best of luck and let me know if you need anything else!
Cheers and welcome to XDA
Helpful Links:
- Stock ROMs
- Rooting and CWM
- Cyanogen Mod 9 (If you decide to use it)
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i found this a very good summary and guide of all thats going on here. i too want to try all the custom roms,
suppose one has a certain ics TW rom installed but would like to change the kernel to a another one, then which is the right method please ?pc odin, mobile odin, or CMW that comes with that particular rom installed ?
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i found this a very good summary and guide of all thats going on here. i too want to try all the custom roms,
suppose one has a certain ics TW rom installed but would like to change the kernel to a another one, then which is the right method please ?pc odin, mobile odin, or CMW that comes with that particular rom installed ?
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That mostly depends. Best way would be to either ask in the ROM's thread or in the kernel's thread. Some ROMs might recommend you flashed in the following sequence:
- Reboot into recovery
- Flash Abyss Kernel 4.2 Redpill (Original or custom logo, doesn't matter)
- IMPORTANT! Go to advanced => Reboot recovery
- Flash the kernel of your choice
- Reboot system
Others might recommend you flashed directly from the included CWM. Again, I'm not sure there's really a rule to this...
So far the only totally safe, non-headache kernel + ROM is Cyanogen and all Cyanogen-based, like Paranoid, Asylum and a few others. If you run those you can flash and full-wipe at will. With others, you should either ask or do a little thread-searching.
And also make sure that if you're running a TouchWiz ROM, flash a TouchWiz kernel. That's...really important, for obvious reasons and the type should be specified in the kernel's description or first post
Got a problem!!!
I flashed a Stock GB rom and the phone is giving me the next problem:
"Unfortunately, the process com.android.phone has stopped"
What should I do?????
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I flashed a Stock GB rom and the phone is giving me the next problem:
"Unfortunately, the process com.android.phone has stopped"
What should I do?????
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Just go into recovery and do a full-wipe. If the problem persists, try another ROM.
Full-wipe should do the trick, though.
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Just go into recovery and do a full-wipe. If the problem persists, try another ROM.
Full-wipe should do the trick, though.
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I think i bricked my phone . I did the full-wipe and i cant get to recovery and when i try to flash a rom it stops at "FACTORYFS"
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I think i bricked my phone . I did the full-wipe and i cant get to recovery and when i try to flash a rom it stops at "FACTORYFS"
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I flash a Kernel and now can get to Recovery, what should i do?
darielsantana said:
I think i bricked my phone . I did the full-wipe and i cant get to recovery and when i try to flash a rom it stops at "FACTORYFS"
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Uhm...I think you full - wiped from ICS... maybe accidentally flashed an ICS stock ROM instead of GB?
GB stock kernels don't do that...
First of all you should consider reading a few threads of people that have already been through this and gotten out ok.
Chances are you'll be able to flash a new ROM from there, but a little research is in order. I don't really know your exact situation (what ROM you have on and what kernel),and I haven't been in this pickle myself, so I may not be the best to advise you on this.
However, it is VERY unlikely that you're on GB... The emmc bug that you've described is typical for early ICS builds.
Quick question
Hoping to flash my second ROM. A while ago now I read something which said for the particular ROM I was looking at you have to flash it from the stock ROM.
So does this apply to all ROMs as i want to flash a different ROM than my custom one i have now, do i need to use my nandriod backup and restore to my stock ROM before proceeding to flash a different one or can i just go ahead from my custom one? Is there anypoint in this or is it just safer to do so or what???
Thanks xx
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Quick question
Hoping to flash my second ROM. A while ago now I read something which said for the particular ROM I was looking at you have to flash it from the stock ROM.
So does this apply to all ROMs as i want to flash a different ROM than my custom one i have now, do i need to use my nandriod backup and restore to my stock ROM before proceeding to flash a different one or can i just go ahead from my custom one? Is there anypoint in this or is it just safer to do so or what???
Thanks xx
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You can flash directly another rom, isn't neccessary to go back to stock, so backup your currently configuration/settings/rom (optional) and do the 3 wipes before flashing your new rom, flash it and enjoy (well, or follow Dev instruction to install the rom correctly )