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[Q] MIUI

Hello all,
Looking to put miui on my old m7 which the wife now has, she likes the skin that miui uses and I must say, it does look very nice even if a rip-off from ios.
There are two ported roms on the miui site, a v6 and a v7.
I didn't want to post questions about the other miui rom in the thread by JTJTJ as it seems unfair to him.
In folks opinions, which of the two ported roms has proved most reliable and most stable for them?
I am always a bit apprehensive regarding the apps pre-installed on miui roms. Does anyone know which miui apps, which chinese based apps can be safely removed without crashing the rom? The less the better for me.
Ps. I forgot, there is also the Firedance gpe based version on a german website to throw in the mix.
Thanks.

[Question] ¿The best nougat stock/debloated/light rom?

EDIT: Sorry, wrong subforum, I meant to post this on the Redmi4x / Santoni subforum.
Greetings, I think this is my first post here (sorry, I'm still practicing my english and this post may have horrible mistakes).
Currently I'm using the latest version of MIUI (9.x I think), but as much as I love this phone I've always been in love with the performance and customization... and this phone has a hell of a bloatware.
I'm aware of the latest Oreo roms and I know recently Xiaomi has released the source code for the santoni phone but still no rom is perfect, specially the Oreo ones, so I'm looking for the closest aosp/stock experience I can get with full compatibility, I think a nougat based rom will do fine but wich one?
I'm planning to install a rom, install greenify, have a good battery life, have more free space and still have full camera, gps and other compatibility with no issues.
Wich rom could you recommend me?
Thanks in advance.

Wence-kun said:
EDIT: Sorry, wrong subforum, I meant to post this on the Redmi4x / Santoni subforum.
Greetings, I think this is my first post here (sorry, I'm still practicing my english and this post may have horrible mistakes).
Currently I'm using the latest version of MIUI (9.x I think), but as much as I love this phone I've always been in love with the performance and customization... and this phone has a hell of a bloatware.
I'm aware of the latest Oreo roms and I know recently Xiaomi has released the source code for the santoni phone but still no rom is perfect, specially the Oreo ones, so I'm looking for the closest aosp/stock experience I can get with full compatibility, I think a nougat based rom will do fine but wich one?
I'm planning to install a rom, install greenify, have a good battery life, have more free space and still have full camera, gps and other compatibility with no issues.
Wich rom could you recommend me?
Thanks in advance.
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Aex official Oreo or pixel experience

Mi-Globe MIUI based on the latest official or developer release. Can be customised to your needs.
Working beautifully and you can remove all the leftover MI crap with system app remover, free from the store.
None of the 3rd party ROMs have the excellent battery life as MIUI unfortunately.

Google search Loup 14.1 for santoni.
It is by noyer,father of development on santoni.
For some reason he isn't on XDA but his ROM is what you need you can follow him on github and twitter though.He even managed to port Sailfish Os for Santoni. I'm using Loup 14 with clarity kernel and experience is awesome.

peron said:
Mi-Globe MIUI based on the latest official or developer release. Can be customised to your needs.
Working beautifully and you can remove all the leftover MI crap with system app remover, free from the store.
None of the 3rd party ROMs have the excellent battery life as MIUI unfortunately.
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correct..i thought to suggest the questioner...but you did before me. by the way, once rooted the Stock ROM? all bloat-wares from google and Mi can be removed...Battery and Phone performance everything is good.
even i tried a some recent official releases of Oreo 8.1 for R4x , first few days everything good, later Battery life tarts in consistency. so, i back to stock but removed all Google and Mi's apps ..only very few mi services still existing on my rom, if i delete them my phone gets locked and i need to do everything from scratch again, so i let them persist... Go for stable miui global 9.2 and keep remove the stock bloatwares.
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Disadvantages of flashing custom rom?

Hello guys, I have a brand new mi9tpro with global rom and even though it works great, i cant stand all the google and mi bloatware so i wanted to flash another rom (miui or non miui)
The question is, do i lose something if a flash a custom rom? Let's say for example some quality on the camera or stuff like that.
I come from samsung where non samsung roms had to use generic drivers and thus the camera quality was horrible in comparison, and I dont want the same happening with this phone now, so i'd only flash a non miui based rom if the quality and functionalities remain exactly the same.
Thanks in advance!

Facuu said:
Hello guys, I have a brand new mi9tpro with global rom and even though it works great, i cant stand all the google and mi bloatware so i wanted to flash another rom (miui or non miui)
The question is, do i lose something if a flash a custom rom? Let's say for example some quality on the camera or stuff like that.
I come from samsung where non samsung roms had to use generic drivers and thus the camera quality was horrible in comparison, and I dont want the same happening with this phone now, so i'd only flash a non miui based rom if the quality and functionalities remain exactly the same.
Thanks in advance!
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My Mi 9T Pro is now under the latest beta from xiaomi.eu. Although it may be similar to stock ROM, I have frozen 69 apps (what you refer as google and bloatware).
I have tried a few smaller custom ROMs and most gave me bootloops probably because I did not install gapps. Why would I want to leave a nicely working xiaomi.eu beta ROM for something else which requires gapps and has more bugs ?

Miui.eu miui custom rom: No downsides.
AOSP based custom rom: Less battery life, instability, worse navigation gestures, most likely bootloops if you do something wrong.
Currently I'd stick to miui.eu until our device stops getting official updates. And even a year or so after that. I am a big fan of AOSP software, but it's just not as good for our device.

This all depends on personal preference and philosophy.
Some people prefer to follow the engineering prime directive: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".
You do say the device is working great, so...
The other school follows the concept of: "if it ain't broke, tweak it until it is".
and you do say you can't stand it, so maybe you belong to the second group.
Then clearly a custom rom is the only alternative you have.
Some ROMs are pretty stable and contrary to the opinion of the previous comment, users report equal or better battery life.
The only 3 real complaints I have heard about are a. the fingerprint sensor performance (and even then reports vary widely), b. lack of OTA and problems with dirty flashing, and c. no android auto support.
Camera is same or better with ANX or Gcam.
True, the fact there were 4, now 3, different firmwares and SKUs greatly hurt and slowed down development and testing for this device, and also the timing with the release of Android10,
but some official releases exist and custom ROMs are slowly getting there.
If you really can't stand google, I recommend you to check out LineageOS or SyberiaOS with MicroG.
It will take fiddling, reading online and troubleshooting, but other than time it costs you nothing.
Worst case, you can always go back to Miui.

In another thread an XDA Recognized Developer has a PC program that makes it simple to disable MIUI and Google bloatware. You might want to try that before resorting to flashing a custom ROM.
Despite what people here say I've tried MIUI.EU on previous Xiaomi phones and always found even the supposedly stable builds to be buggy.
REV OS is a much more stable MIUI based ROM. Unlike MIUI.EU the devs for REV OS extensively test every build for bugs before releasing them to users.
I loved REV OS on my MI 9 but have stuck to stock MIUI on my MI 9T Pro so far. I did do some debloating using the program I mentioned.
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If you are new to Xiaomi you should read up on the bootloader unlock process which seems to drive many people crazy.

>Disadvantages of flashing custom rom?
Flashing drivers manually is a major pain in the ass for me. These days OTA from custom ROMs are seemless and automatic. Otherwise it used to be another major problem with it. Another problem might be you might brick your phone. Another major problem is that none of the custom ROMs for this device are perfect and bug free. I am only sticking with MIUI for this specific reason.

jhs39 said:
In another thread an XDA Recognized Developer has a PC program that makes it simple to disable MIUI and Google bloatware. You might want to try that before resorting to flashing a custom ROM.
Despite what people here say I've tried MIUI.EU on previous Xiaomi phones and always found even the supposedly stable builds to be buggy.
REV OS is a much more stable MIUI based ROM. Unlike MIUI.EU the devs for REV OS extensively test every build for bugs before releasing them to users.
I loved REV OS on my MI 9 but have stuck to stock MIUI on my MI 9T Pro so far. I did do some debloating using the program I mentioned.
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If you are new to Xiaomi you should read up on the bootloader unlock process which seems to drive many people crazy.
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I've installed REV Os and it seems a good rom like miui.eu or mi globe or mmx.
No bug with miui stock or custom.
Are you ok to build a rom section in this forum with REV Os?

Lethalben said:
I've installed REV Os and it seems a good rom like miui.eu or mi globe or mmx.
No bug with miui stock or custom.
Are you ok to build a rom section in this forum with REV Os?
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I agree, Revos is a very good stable MIUI ROM. Never found an issue with it, and there default kernel is good (on Pocophone F1).

Lethalben said:
I've installed REV Os and it seems a good rom like miui.eu or mi globe or mmx.
No bug with miui stock or custom.
Are you ok to build a rom section in this forum with REV Os?
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I don't think the devs of REV OS want their ROM on XDA. Many devs soured on XDA and stopped maintaining ROM threads here.
At this point most of the ROMs on XDA are either unofficial or are threads that aren't created, maintained or supported by the Devs actually responsible for the ROMs.
And part of the user agreement for most ROMs that maintain their own website is that you are forbidden from creating any external links for those ROMs.

suggestions for custom ROM´s (everday use, Cam)

Hi guys,
actually, I´m trying to bring my Mi9 back to life with a new battery. Since now, I´m on xiaomi.eu 12.5.6.
In order to keep my Mi9 updated, I tried to figure out, which Custom ROM I´d go for. Criteria are every day use (stability, battery lifetime, smoothness, security updates). Conclusion after reading the threads is that most official 11.0 ROMs do very well (for example crDroid, Havoc, …). Since twrp still doesn´t support encryption, I´d go for 11.0.
Another point is a good cam out of the box (using all lenses and features and compareable to stock quality). Or do I need to install gcam to reach this goal?
Thx in advance for suggestions, I know the question for „best ROM“ is pretty much too simple, but I´d like to get a starting point…

how did you get xiaomi.eu 12.5.6? I saw only chinese

woullerwhat said:
how did you get xiaomi.eu 12.5.6? I saw only chinese
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MIUI 12.0 - MIUI 12.0/12.1/12.2/12.5 STABLE RELEASE
STABLE RELEASE RULES WHEN POSTING 1. If a ROM is not published DONT ASK ABOUT ITS ETA 2. If a ROM is not published DONT ASK why! 3. If a ROM is available, download it and use it 4. If a ROM has bugs, post the bug to the bug section if the BUG is not already listed 5. If you use any form of...
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Question Best android 13 rom?

Hey guys I’m thinking of flashing a android 13 custom Rom long term. Which one is the best ?

Android 13?, Do you mean Miui 13?, if A13 then i dont think many have installed them as theres only a couple available, very early days as yet, if you search through questions im sure someone else asked about A13 roms and testing them.

Try Project Elixir 3.0 or EvoX 7.1

I like crdroid

erickjfc said:
I like crdroid
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Up to now crDroid is running under Android 12 and not yet under Android 13.

first, you have to decide between aosp or miui based ROMs

EvoX 7.1 is pretty cool

For me I prefer Project Elixir
It is more stable than Evox and better battery life

TitQuentin said:
For me I prefer Project Elixir
It is more stable than Evox and better battery life
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Too bad PE 3.0 lacks some of the Essence features

BMHater12 said:
Too bad PE 3.0 lacks some of the Essence features
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I agree with You but PE 3.0 is still a beta version.
If you are missing features the best you can do is to inform the developer.

cocopipou said:
I agree with You but PE 3.0 is still a beta version.
If you are missing features the best you can do is to inform the developer.
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PE 3.1 is on the way, most of the Essence features are back, so we gotta wait for a stable build

BMHater12 said:
PE 3.1 is on the way, most of the Essence features are back, so we gotta wait for a stable build
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Thank You for this information.

Never understand why people are so keen to flash a A13 rom that's not anywhere stable at the moment as much as Devs say it is stable. Is it just for the sake of having the lastest Android version but dealing with bugs everyday.
cDroid 12.1
PixelOs 12.1
CherishOs 12.1
Everything else will give you endless headaches and 3 hours of reconfiguring your phone after you realise that a A13 build is a POS right now.

Xavind said:
Never understand why people are so keen to flash a A13 rom that's not anywhere stable at the moment as much as Devs say it is stable. Is it just for the sake of having the lastest Android version but dealing with bugs everyday.
cDroid 12.1
PixelOs 12.1
CherishOs 12.1
Everything else will give you endless headaches and 3 hours of reconfiguring your phone after you realise that a A13 build is a POS right now.
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not true, i am currently using cherishOS 4.0.5 android 13 now few days. Didn't found any major bug, rom running smooth as pixelOS a12. Normal stuff like, playing normal games, voice calling, social media and watching videos no issues even the battery backup is also good. Devs put lot of efforts for us. A13 cherishOS is a great rom to be used as daily driver. thanks i hope this helps for someone.

ashufftb said:
not true, i am currently using cherishOS 4.0.5 android 13 now few days. Didn't found any major bug, rom running smooth as pixelOS a12. Normal stuff like, playing normal games, voice calling, social media and watching videos no issues even the battery backup is also good. Devs put lot of efforts for us. A13 cherishOS is a great rom to be used as daily driver. thanks i hope this helps for someone.
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It's relative, devs test roms on us for their learning and we sometimes like what we get. What I've observed over 7 years of using customs roms is that devs are less interested in bringing a ROM development to real stability, what has become important is "let's be first" hence this rush to port roms to the newest android version. Except for cDroid every ROM for RN10 Pro is a pixel port there's no real bespoke elements. I guess unlimited photo storage is the thing people want here. That's my take.

Xavind said:
It's relative, devs test roms on us for their learning and we sometimes like what we get. What I've observed over 7 years of using customs roms is that devs are less interested in bringing a ROM development to real stability, what has become important is "let's be first" hence this rush to port roms to the newest android version. Except for cDroid every ROM for RN10 Pro is a pixel port there's no real bespoke elements. I guess unlimited photo storage is the thing people want here. That's my take.
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i do not know about others. I am also using custom roms and phone software customization for more than 11 years. On who else other then a user devs will test there rom for early testing of bugs or any other issue, (apple also releases several beta version to user's to test there ios (6-7 beta) and then release the final build to public). not all roms are stable that i agree. there are specific roms like for gaming for battery for overall stability. It's user choice to test roms or listen to other user's review and then install rom according to there needs. many mobile companies just launch phone and then do not provide proper software update support, like micromax, xiaomi, redmi, samsung(before) etc.. ASOP custom rom extends the life of a phone(like poco f1, redmi k20 pro, redmi note 5 pro and many many others). Whatever the reason is but in the end user's are getting more without any hard work and yes devs will also think about themselves too and they deserves it. Devs have to meet the user's demand so i think yeah they rush to port to latest android version and also devs have a year to stable the rom for us before another android version google releases. not even google's own android 13 is bug free, it has many many bugs which user's face in there costly pixel devices. so yeah these bugs will also come to custom roms.

Xavind said:
I guess unlimited photo storage is the thing people want here. That's my take.
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I only want a vanilla Android ROM, as I hate MIUI, so I flashed PixelOS for the moment. Working good for me

ashufftb said:
i do not know about others. I am also using custom roms and phone software customization for more than 11 years. On who else other then a user devs will test there rom for early testing of bugs or any other issue, (apple also releases several beta version to user's to test there ios (6-7 beta) and then release the final build to public). not all roms are stable that i agree. there are specific roms like for gaming for battery for overall stability. It's user choice to test roms or listen to other user's review and then install rom according to there needs. many mobile companies just launch phone and then do not provide proper software update support, like micromax, xiaomi, redmi, samsung(before) etc.. ASOP custom rom extends the life of a phone(like poco f1, redmi k20 pro, redmi note 5 pro and many many others). Whatever the reason is but in the end user's are getting more without any hard work and yes devs will also think about themselves too and they deserves it. Devs have to meet the user's demand so i think yeah they rush to port to latest android version and also devs have a year to stable the rom for us before another android version google releases. not even google's own android 13 is bug free, it has many many bugs which user's face in there costly pixel devices. so yeah these bugs will also come to custom roms.
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Work definitely goes into any ROM. I will say this, ANY ROM here is better than stock MIUI and that's a fact

jnsson said:
I only want a vanilla Android ROM, as I hate MIUI, so I flashed PixelOS for the moment. Working good for me
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hi, Do u mean PixelOS Android 13 version or 12.1 ?

fxthomas said:
hi, Do u mean PixelOS Android 13 version or 12.1 ?
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Android 12.1 version. AFAIK there is no Android 13 PixelOS version yet