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Will we ever get smooth graphics on X1?

Im talking about watching movies, playing games - i dont know what the reason its so slow but it is painfully slow. its bothering me a lot. it seems like older much cheaper phones can play video much better than our phones.
is it a hardware fault (no hope) or a software fault ?

its a software fault
if you update your phone to some custom roms the phone runs LOTS faster
anyways, my videos and some 3d games run pretty fast on my phone.
not java games cause those arent hardware supported

I have to say that I am pretty darn happy with video playback on this phone... its fast and doesnt lag... the sound is even in sync with the picture unlike some devices I have tried before... I have not played any graphics intensive games on this phone so far though...

a game like archibalds adventure cant even scroll properly. i mean it looks like it was taken out of the 80s.

Maybe it is because this phone has up to 5 times more pixels then previous phones you have owned?

whats the point in it having 5 times the pixels if it cant cope with them

tehnoobzorz said:
its a software fault
if you update your phone to some custom roms the phone runs LOTS faster
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Care to recommend a ROM?

orangedavie said:
whats the point in it having 5 times the pixels if it cant cope with them
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It copes with them just fine. it just wasn't made with gaming in mind.

Shadowdh said:
I have to say that I am pretty darn happy with video playback on this phone... its fast and doesnt lag... the sound is even in sync with the picture unlike some devices I have tried before... I have not played any graphics intensive games on this phone so far though...
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What videos? Are these videos, by chance a chintzy 320x240? I've tried avi videos in standard DVD resolution, 720x480 and 640x480 and they are both choppy as hell. There are far too many apologists for the really lackluster video playback on this device. I realize it's a driver issue, but when rich multimedia playback is one of the selling points, I think it verges on false advertising when it can't play accepted video standards. Have HTC pony up the money to Qualcomm for the right drivers and I think the X1 and a number of other devices in their stable can really start to live up to their claims.

Yeah, I have to agree. 5X the pixels means nothing if the phone can't handle them

No problem for me with video...
-I recode vidéo in 800*480 with HTC Touch HD Video Converter
-I use Windows Media Player to watch video

rom im using
im using touch it xperience 3.5 but i've heard touch it 2.2 was faster

from now on if it has qualcom in the hardware spec im gonna avoid it like the plague!

I gotta admit, just when I start being happy with the Xperia video.....
I'll look over at some movie my wife is watching on the iphone and just shake my head. The Xperia is NOT impressive in the video dept. I can get video to play to ALMOST lag free and it looks pretty dang good. But c'mon already! With the hardware capabilities of this phone, video should look all around amazing.

KennyXL said:
What videos? Are these videos, by chance a chintzy 320x240? I've tried avi videos in standard DVD resolution, 720x480 and 640x480 and they are both choppy as hell. There are far too many apologists for the really lackluster video playback on this device. I realize it's a driver issue, but when rich multimedia playback is one of the selling points, I think it verges on false advertising when it can't play accepted video standards. Have HTC pony up the money to Qualcomm for the right drivers and I think the X1 and a number of other devices in their stable can really start to live up to their claims.
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I have converted some Chinese tv serial episodes using magic video converter and they came out great, not too sure of the res but by memory its around 640x480 to 720x480 as you comment... no lag and sound is better than I expected... I also have a movie or two that works just as well, again Chinese stuff (as I am learning Chinese I find this is an interesting way to help out with both reading (subtitles) and listening)... I am using coreplayer and have it in full screen mode when watching...
Oh and I am by no means an apologist... if it was crap I would say so, but its not... but then I dont expect my phone to act or have the same capacity as my laptop/pc.... its a phone and does what it says on the tin...

I dont get it. I have a stock ROM and my video is perfect. I downloaded an Ipod converted (m4v) version of Superbad and it looks and sounds amazing FULL screen btw). All i had to do was rename the file to mp4 and it works perfectly! Maybe there is something else going on with you guys phones. I also have Anchorman, SemiPro, and several others running perfectly. Besides TF3D, i dont have any other plug ins installed.

I also have no issues with video playback,
I am running Touch IT 2.2 which i am not willing to replace yet because the ROM is fast as hell and bug free. Just used the HD converter in the sticky on page 1 along with a few speed tweeks from the Mark a Clienti thread and POW!! full screen, top notch quality res and not a single lag or frame drop in sight.
I have noticed that a lot of people are having issues with various applications on their SE X1's but i dont seem to have had any issues at all. I started with the clean ROM and made sure i installed all of my required apps and tweaks in one go, making sure to reset after each install. After that i just sat back and watched it fly, maybe i'm just lucky
Regards,
Creamy-Goodness

creamy said:
I also have no issues with video playback,
I am running Touch IT 2.2 which i am not willing to replace yet because the ROM is fast as hell and bug free. Just used the HD converter in the sticky on page 1 along with a few speed tweeks from the Mark a Clienti thread and POW!! full screen, top notch quality res and not a single lag or frame drop in sight.
I have noticed that a lot of people are having issues with various applications on their SE X1's but i dont seem to have had any issues at all. I started with the clean ROM and made sure i installed all of my required apps and tweaks in one go, making sure to reset after each install. After that i just sat back and watched it fly, maybe i'm just lucky
Regards,
Creamy-Goodness
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i dont see why I have to convert videos to another format.

Shadowdh said:
I have converted some Chinese tv serial episodes using magic video converter and they came out great, not too sure of the res but by memory its around 640x480 to 720x480 as you comment... no lag and sound is better than I expected... I also have a movie or two that works just as well, again Chinese stuff (as I am learning Chinese I find this is an interesting way to help out with both reading (subtitles) and listening)... I am using coreplayer and have it in full screen mode when watching...
Oh and I am by no means an apologist... if it was crap I would say so, but its not... but then I dont expect my phone to act or have the same capacity as my laptop/pc.... its a phone and does what it says on the tin...
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You might want to check out what the bitrates are on those videos. Your average avi video is about 1.3-1.4 gigabytes in size for your standard 1.75-2 hour movie. That comes to about 1,500 kbs. Anything significantly less than that and it looks kind of muddy when viewed on a regular sized TV screen. Ideally, you shouldn't even have to recode video you ripped yourself. In theory you should be able to rip once and play on all your appliances that are video capable using a standard codec with reasonable settings. An avi file 1.3 gigabytes in size for a 2 hour movie is entirely reasonable and I highly doubt that you can achieve that with the X1 in its current state. I've tried extensively and the only way you can make it play with any level of smoothness is by dramatically reducing the resolution or dropping the bitrate precipitously. You can't just drag an acceptable video from your computer onto this phone and expect it to play acceptably the way it is right now. As for the expectation that it's only a phone I say that the drivers are the only thing that prevent it from meeting the expectations. I'll bet the hardware is there, but HTC just feels like being cheap. Heck, there are phones debuting at MWC right now that do full motion 1080p playback of h.264 video. The X1, which isn't more than a few months old, can't smoothly play back a 640x480 1,500 kbs video. At $700 retail and their promise of a full-featured multi-media device that is scandalous. I dare anyone to say otherwise.

KennyXL said:
You might want to check out what the bitrates are on those videos. Your average avi video is about 1.3-1.4 gigabytes in size for your standard 1.75-2 hour movie. That comes to about 1,500 kbs. Anything significantly less than that and it looks kind of muddy when viewed on a regular sized TV screen.
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You sound much more knowledgable than me so I wont try to argue with you, but I have quite a few avi files that are around the 800mb size that play very well and are crisp and clear even on a bigger screen (my laptop is 15.4 and pc is 19inches), in fact I find it pretty rare to have an avi file over 900 Mb for a standard movie (up to 2hours I would guess is pretty standard)... As another poster a couple of posts back mentioned, I notice a few problems that people are having that I dont... thank goodness as with my level of understanding I would be hard pressed to now what it is I need to search for to fix the problem...

iPhone 4 now plays 1080p videos easily, then why Galaxy S can't

http://blog.gsmarena.com/iphone-4-now-plays-1080p-videos-easily-does-some-xviddivx-magic-too/
Seems like some people managed to play 1080p on iPhone 4.
SGS has almost the same CPU with better GPU and option for overclock.
What is the reason that is preventing us from playing 1080p? Not good enough app or something else?

1080p on a 4" screen? no thank you.

We just seems to be needing a good codec to play 1080p. So it should just be a software limitation unless the GPU is capped at 720p!

ostendk said:
1080p on a 4" screen? no thank you.
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I would never watch 1080p on 4'' screen (even though some people would)
I'm just curios about the hardware.
@Prankey,
I guess SGX 540 can play 1080p if SGX 535 can.

I'll make a wild guess here:
iOS has all the software needed for full hardware acceleration while Android don't.

How is this a development related question?
And I thought galaxy can play 1080 without problems (didnt try though, as its very stupid).

so iPhone display is 960 x 640 pixels?
1080P is 1920 x 1080 pixels
unless it can output HDMI, seems pretty pointless to me.

The screen resolution is 800x480 anyway so the extra resolution does not benefit you at all. It's just a minor convenience to avoid converting the video but you're wasting battery power to decode the video and a lot of space. 720p is enough of a battery and space waster.

mickeko said:
I'll make a wild guess here:
iOS has all the software needed for full hardware acceleration while Android don't.
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1080p isn't even listed as a file which can be played. You can't even upload it via iTunes, so there is no official hardware acceleration built in for 1080p.
dupel said:
How is this a development related question?
And I thought galaxy can play 1080 without problems (didnt try though, as its very stupid).
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I guess it is a development question, because it may be related with codecs, drivers, etc.
But no, it can't. I have tried it, even though I'm not about to watch full HD on my SGS
miker71 said:
so iPhone display is 960 x 640 pixels?
1080P is 1920 x 1080 pixels
unless it can output HDMI, seems pretty pointless to me.
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We can use microUSB to HDMI and we have DLNA. So it would be useful to us. Anyway, as I've already said my interest is about hardware capabilities not watching full HD on my phone.

Maddmatt said:
The screen resolution is 800x480 anyway so the extra resolution does not benefit you at all. It's just a minor convenience to avoid converting the video but you're wasting battery power to decode the video and a lot of space. 720p is enough of a battery and space waster.
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You still have to convert the video though for these devices still cause h.264 codec support for mobile devices don't support all of what the codec can do. It's also wasted bit rate as well. It's better to have a lower resolution video with a decent bit rate then it is to have a video with a massive resolution but not enough of a bit rate to smooth out artifacts. this resolution race for videos on mobile phones is a tad stupid.

Rock player plays 1080p for me.
The Video I tried was a bit choppy though but acceptable.
(I guess about 15-18fps). I only tried one Video wich I accidentally loaded on my device.
As far as I now Rock player does not use any GPU acceleration though pretty impressive what this little CPU is capable of.
Definatly plays full hd better then my atom netbook.

ostendk said:
1080p on a 4" screen? no thank you.
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agree it's simply over kill
all the extra processing is wasted on a 4" screen
actually iphone4 is only 3.5" not even 4"
720p is more than enough on the 4"

jam3sjam3s said:
1080p isn't even listed as a file which can be played. You can't even upload it via iTunes, so there is no official hardware acceleration built in for 1080p.
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I wasn't talking about hardware accelerated 1080p playback. I was talking about how everything in iOS is adapted to support as much of the hardware features as possible, while Android is not adapted to support the SGS hardware in any other way than Samsung just tossing in (semi)working drivers.

jam3sjam3s said:
1080p isn't even listed as a file which can be played. You can't even upload it via iTunes, so there is no official hardware acceleration built in for 1080p.
I guess it is a development question, because it may be related with codecs, drivers, etc.
But no, it can't. I have tried it, even though I'm not about to watch full HD on my SGS
We can use microUSB to HDMI and we have DLNA. So it would be useful to us. Anyway, as I've already said my interest is about hardware capabilities not watching full HD on my phone.
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And what format have you tried yo play it in?

jam3sjam3s said:
http://blog.gsmarena.com/iphone-4-now-plays-1080p-videos-easily-does-some-xviddivx-magic-too/
Seems like some people managed to play 1080p on iPhone 4.
SGS has almost the same CPU with better GPU and option for overclock.
What is the reason that is preventing us from playing 1080p? Not good enough app or something else?
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1/ there is no point, resolution-wise
2/ with iphone there is a VERY limited range of file formats you CAN actually play, so you will spend half your life converting to a format that apple can control. Most my 1080p movies are mkv format, a format that works on Galaxy S but not on iphone. All my SD movies are Divx and Xvid, again, not compatible with iphone.
Mark.

Well actually we can! Rockplayer can do it so please stop spamming this forum!
You apple fanboy

jodue said:
just ****ing stupid! 1080p on 800x480, wtf? even 720p is higher than the screen-resolution! also a movie in 1080p has ~10Gb which would almost fill my 16gb card. STUPID and completely SENSELESS!
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well apparently the people with iphone4 are too rich and too <insert what you think here> to care about that.
they probably think they have super wireless and can stream a 1080p movie and watch it over the air

AllGamer said:
they probably think they have super wireless and can stream a 1080p movie and watch it over the air
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And why not? 802.11n is more than enough for that...

Anything that can be done on the iphone 4 can be done on the galaxy s, just needs the right software to be made.
The only difference between the iphone 4 and the GS is the software, the screen, and the galaxy s having one generation newer gpu
Anyway what's the point in this? sd cards have a 4gb filesize limit, 1080p would waste so much battery for no benefit over a 720p file

technical spec yes
real life usage, not so great
wireless N is what i use for my home teather, yes it "works" but load time is horrible, as well as the random cut offs, then waiting for the load time again.... it's a pain in the aussie
it's much more convenient to first copy the entire movie into the hard drive via wireless N, then watch it
but that defeats the entire purpose of streaming a movie

[Q]Can the D3 stream YouTube 1080p with flash?

Hi guys, can anyone kindly help me test if the droid 3's CPU is capable of streaming yotube videos in 1080p in flash. i am thinking of getting the D4 which shares the same CPU as the D3 except with a higher clock.
i know Samsung's S2's CPU(the exynos, not the tegra 2 version) is capable of handling youtube's 1080p. i would really appreciate your help.
PS: i sympathize with those who purchased the D3.

I'm sure it has the ability to do it, but I've never done it before..
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ChaoticWeaponry said:
I'm sure it has the ability to do it, but I've never done it before..
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i need someone to do an actual test to confirm. the tegra 2 for instance, despite having 2 cortex a9 cores like the exynos, can't handle 1080p in flash.

Let me check.. but I don't see why you would play a 1080p youtube movie when the screen is only 960x540. 720p would make much more sense (1280x720)
edit: when I go to the desktop page of youtube it says I need to upgrade flash player but I have 11 installed.
Opening in youtube app only lets me choose between HQ and no HQ

DoubleYouPee said:
Let me check.. but I don't see why you would play a 1080p youtube movie when the screen is only 960x540. 720p would make much more sense (1280x720)
edit: when I go to the desktop page of youtube it says I need to upgrade flash player but I have 11 installed.
Opening in youtube app only lets me choose between HQ and no HQ
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perhaps you have not enabled plugin in the setting? maybe you can try another browser? i am aware that 720p is good enough on the phone's screen, but the ability to stream 1080p in flash will proof that the D3's CPU is just as capable as the exynos since the exynos is the only CPU that can handle 1080p in flash afaik. it will also be useful when i output it via HDMI onto my 65" full hd tv since 1080p looks much more clear on a such a big screen. i appreciate your effort anyways.

Its downscaling anything above its 960x540 resolution, but when I tested Flash player it was able to do 720p no problem. When the quality is switched to 1080p the video frame rate drops to nothing but the audio still plays. This is in Dolphin Browser HD with a desktop user agent.

sharptv said:
perhaps you have not enabled plugin in the setting? maybe you can try another browser? i am aware that 720p is good enough on the phone's screen, but the ability to stream 1080p in flash will proof that the D3's CPU is just as capable as the exynos since the exynos is the only CPU that can handle 1080p in flash afaik. it will also be useful when i output it via HDMI onto my 65" full hd tv since 1080p looks much more clear on a such a big screen. i appreciate your effort anyways.
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Well flash works fine in mobile version. The desktop version probably looks for desktop flash. Btw just for the record my D3 plays 720p MKVs fine (2GB - 1hour), which probably has a higher bitrate than those youtube 1080p's

DoubleYouPee said:
Well flash works fine in mobile version. The desktop version probably looks for desktop flash. Btw just for the record my D3 plays 720p MKVs fine (2GB - 1hour), which probably has a higher bitrate than those youtube 1080p's
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yeah i know, my xoom's tegra 2 can handle 8gb 1080p MKVs with no problem, but when it comes to flash 1080p it just stutters like mad. i am not sure why your flash doesn't work in desktop version, maybe you need to change your user agent to desktop. i have no problem with flash on desktop youtube on my phone. mind if i ask what browser did you use? i am currently using dolphin browser MINI with desktop user agent with plugin set to always on.
PS: the android flash is the same as desktop flash, they are just coded for different platforms unlike flash player LITE which is found on Nokia phones. i am very certain that youtube's mobile site does not use flash, it uses the phone's built in player instead to stream the content.

spunker88 said:
Its downscaling anything above its 960x540 resolution, but when I tested Flash player it was able to do 720p no problem. When the quality is switched to 1080p the video frame rate drops to nothing but the audio still plays. This is in Dolphin Browser HD with a desktop user agent.
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thanks so much, apparently samsung's exynos chip is still the king of all mobile CPUs for now.

sharptv said:
thanks so much, apparently samsung's exynos chip is still the king of all mobile CPUs for now.
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It's not about power but also about optimization.
I use Miren Browser, just set it to desktop user agent and still says I dont have flash. Now when I click on flash it points me to download desktop .dmg version. I doubt this will work?
Also tried default browser but no go

DoubleYouPee said:
It's not about power but also about optimization.
I use Miren Browser, just set it to desktop user agent and still says I dont have flash. Now when I click on flash it points me to download desktop .dmg version. I doubt this will work?
Also tried default browser but no go
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In this case it is about pure raw processing power the tegra 2 is a more optimized than the exynos at the moment due to its mature drivers, API and all that but it still loses to the exynos despite having the same structure as the exynos.
If you look at synthetic benchmarks, you will notice that the exymos is slower than both the omap4430 and the tegra 2, yet in real life, it is the fastest. I have tegra 2 overclocked to 1.6ghz and it still cannot handle 1080p flash. Even though flash claims to be GPU accelerated, it is extremely taxing on the CPU.
Samsung always seems to produce superior chips than its competitors, just take the Hummingbird CPU in the original galaxy s, it is still the fastest single core mobile CPU on the market.
As for your flash problem, have you tried reinstalling flash from the market? You might have to wipe your dalvik cache.

I just tested on my d3 to see.....it worked! I mean at times it wasn't butter smooth and hesitated occasionally but played just fine overall. 720p looks the same on the screen but is butter smooth constantly so yes....the d3..mine at least...can do 1080p youtube. Running cm7...init.d hack. Didn't even use my overclock haha
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tacosrdelicioso said:
I just tested on my d3 to see.....it worked! I mean at times it wasn't butter smooth and hesitated occasionally but played just fine overall. 720p looks the same on the screen but is butter smooth constantly so yes....the d3..mine at least...can do 1080p youtube. Running cm7...init.d hack. Didn't even use my overclock haha
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wow really? can the average fps hit 20(visually) when streaming 1080p? mind if i ask which 1080p video did you stream? personally i find VEVO's 1080p videos to be better quality. i appreciate your feedback

Forget about it

It's not about power but also about optimization.
I use Miren Browser, just set it to desktop user agent and still says I dont have flash. Now when I click on flash it points me to download desktop .dmg version. I doubt this will work?
Also tried default browser but no go

[Q] Support for this phone...?

Stats wise this looks like a bang for the buck. I am considering buying this phone. I wanted to know whether the Chipset this phone has will continue to get support. Also wanted to know whether this phone can play Full HD videos. Other than that can this phone play HD Games? Is there any hope that this phone will get further version upgrades? Is it possible to install JellyBean oficially without having to root?
Thanks a lot!

android07 said:
Stats wise this looks like a bang for the buck. I am considering buying this phone. I wanted to know whether the Chipset this phone has will continue to get support. Also wanted to know whether this phone can play Full HD videos. Other than that can this phone play HD Games? Is there any hope that this phone will get further version upgrades? Is it possible to install JellyBean oficially without having to root?
Thanks a lot!
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There is a rumor that it will get 4.2, and stops there. We have official JB, no need to root. There is some lag on full HD, but do you need full HD on 4" screen really? :angel: I am not game player, about games you will need to wait for somebody else to answer you.

shut_down said:
There is a rumor that it will get 4.2, and stops there. We have official JB, no need to root. There is some lag on full HD, but do you need full HD on 4" screen really? :angel: I am not game player, about games you will need to wait for somebody else to answer you.
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Thanks a lot! I really appriciate your help!

This phone is pretty good, but not good enough if compared with the more recent ones.. I mean if you want more Battery Life, Gaming Performance and more (future) Official updates or Dev support then you can opt for better, more popular Mid-Range phones (according to your budget)...
But still this phone is pretty good, better than Galaxy R and closely related to the all famous S2!
And yes two more things:
- I never tried playing 1080p videos, so I don't know whether it will work or not.. but I have a lot of 720p videos (and movies) - and they all have lag free playback on the stock video player... The only 720p video that lags for me is the default Samsung Sample Video :silly:
- You can play most of the games on this phones, but most high end games or too resource demanding 3D games won't play well on Highest settings...
I was an iPhone user before and this is my first Android phone.. but yeah this is still a pretty good phone, but there are better phones (maybe at same cost)..
Take a look at this thread too.. I gave my review on S3 Mini vs SGSA on that thread...

Sami Kabir said:
This phone is pretty good, but not good enough if compared with the more recent ones.. I mean if you want more Battery Life, Gaming Performance and more (future) Official updates or Dev support then you can opt for better, more popular Mid-Range phones (according to your budget)...
But still this phone is pretty good, better than Galaxy R and closely related to the all famous S2!
And yes two more things:
- I never tried playing 1080p videos, so I don't know whether it will work or not.. but I have a lot of 720p videos (and movies) - and they all have lag free playback on the stock video player... The only 720p video that lags for me is the default Samsung Sample Video :silly:
- You can play most of the games on this phones, but most high end games or too resource demanding 3D games won't play well on Highest settings...
I was an iPhone user before and this is my first Android phone.. but yeah this is still a pretty good phone, but there are better phones (maybe at same cost)..
Take a look at this thread too.. I gave my review on S3 Mini vs SGSA on that thread...
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Some of those points are really foolish sorry...For example,the HSDPA speed is the same and it doesn't have HSPA+...our phone supports microSDHC too(someone tried microSDXC and it worked too...weird)...the original s3 mini hasn't NFC,there is a I8190N version with that.
Also,I don't think it will get Key Lime Pie if the Note,S2 and ours will not get it just because it is newer.Remember the S plus case(gigngerbread as the original S)
Not trying to flame,just correcting you.
In conclusion if solid multitasking isn't your thing,at my opinion S advance makes it because it has better front camera and an ambient light sensor.Also I like the design more...because it's smaller S3 mini doesn't look as good the S3.I saw them both.
You can't play 1080p videos with the stock video player.At heavy games the single core Mali says its word.
If you want a better phone just buy the S2.Better screen,ram and processor.Also the developement support is waay greater because of a biiiig user base.In my country,the difference is just like 25 euros.
I might switch to the S2 too...

ionescugeo9942 said:
Some of those points are really foolish sorry...For example,the HSDPA speed is the same and it doesn't have HSPA+...our phone supports microSDHC too(someone tried microSDXC and it worked too...weird)...the original s3 mini hasn't NFC,there is a I8190N version with that.
Also,I don't think it will get Key Lime Pie if the Note,S2 and ours will not get it just because it is newer.Remember the S plus case(gigngerbread as the original S)
Not trying to flame,just correcting you.
In conclusion if solid multitasking isn't your thing,at my opinion S advance makes it because it has better front camera and an ambient light sensor.Also I like the design more...because it's smaller S3 mini doesn't look as good the S3.I saw them both.
You can't play 1080p videos with the stock video player.At heavy games the single core Mali says its word.
If you want a better phone just buy the S2.Better screen,ram and processor.Also the developement support is waay greater because of a biiiig user base.In my country,the difference is just like 25 euros.
I might switch to the S2 too...
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well yeah of course, you're right... even I hate the shape both S3 and S3 mini has.. in my opinion, S2 and our phone has a better and solid look and feel...

Sami Kabir said:
This phone is pretty good, but not good enough if compared with the more recent ones.. I mean if you want more Battery Life, Gaming Performance and more (future) Official updates or Dev support then you can opt for better, more popular Mid-Range phones (according to your budget)...
But still this phone is pretty good, better than Galaxy R and closely related to the all famous S2!
And yes two more things:
- I never tried playing 1080p videos, so I don't know whether it will work or not.. but I have a lot of 720p videos (and movies) - and they all have lag free playback on the stock video player... The only 720p video that lags for me is the default Samsung Sample Video :silly:
- You can play most of the games on this phones, but most high end games or too resource demanding 3D games won't play well on Highest settings...
I was an iPhone user before and this is my first Android phone.. but yeah this is still a pretty good phone, but there are better phones (maybe at same cost)..
Take a look at this thread too.. I gave my review on S3 Mini vs SGSA on that thread...
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ionescugeo9942 said:
Some of those points are really foolish sorry...For example,the HSDPA speed is the same and it doesn't have HSPA+...our phone supports microSDHC too(someone tried microSDXC and it worked too...weird)...the original s3 mini hasn't NFC,there is a I8190N version with that.
Also,I don't think it will get Key Lime Pie if the Note,S2 and ours will not get it just because it is newer.Remember the S plus case(gigngerbread as the original S)
Not trying to flame,just correcting you.
In conclusion if solid multitasking isn't your thing,at my opinion S advance makes it because it has better front camera and an ambient light sensor.Also I like the design more...because it's smaller S3 mini doesn't look as good the S3.I saw them both.
You can't play 1080p videos with the stock video player.At heavy games the single core Mali says its word.
If you want a better phone just buy the S2.Better screen,ram and processor.Also the developement support is waay greater because of a biiiig user base.In my country,the difference is just like 25 euros.
I might switch to the S2 too...
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Thanks a lot for your input guys! :good: I am considering some other phones like Galaxy Note N-7000 and Sony Xperia L.
The last thing I wanna know is whether the sound output is actually low as some reviewers are saying.
Thanks again!

android07 said:
Thanks a lot for your input guys! :good: I am considering some other phones like Galaxy Note N-7000 and Sony Xperia L.
The last thing I wanna know is whether the sound output is actually low as some reviewers are saying.
Thanks again!
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The sound output is normal.Not too low not too high.

We can't play 1080P Videos on this phone. When I use video players other than stock,it play only audio.

phyowaiummg said:
We can't play 1080P Videos on this phone. When I use video players other than stock,it play only audio.
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Mx player > settings > 2 cores for decoding > laggy 1080p playback
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4K Video player

Hi. I need a video player that can run 4k videos. Is there any? I have the exynos lte one. I know exynos kimits the video recording to 1080p but can it play 4K just like normal 1080p? If yes, any player which can do so? I have checked mx player pro it plays the video but its plays with too much stutter cant see nothing. Any player anyone can tell which can help??

Try the wondershare from Google Play
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tonybz said:
Try the wondershare from Google Play
Sent from my C6906
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nope its also not working. MX Player Pro is hands down the best player for android. its running the videos but with stutter. im sure this Exynos ****SET is the culprit here.
thats the reason why i and millions of other people like Snapdragon chipsets. they at least work great with great battery life and everything optimized. not like samsung. i might sell this crap soon getting only 3 hours of screen on time. and its just box opened brand new tablet. SAMSUNG DISAPPOINTED ME AGAIN, AND ITS THE LAST TIME I GOT SAMMY ****!
#RANT

aami.aami said:
nope its also not working. MX Player Pro is hands down the best player for android. its running the videos but with stutter. im sure this Exynos ****SET is the culprit here.
thats the reason why i and millions of other people like Snapdragon chipsets. they at least work great with great battery life and everything optimized. not like samsung. i might sell this crap soon getting only 3 hours of screen on time. and its just box opened brand new tablet. SAMSUNG DISAPPOINTED ME AGAIN, AND ITS THE LAST TIME I GOT SAMMY ****!
#RANT
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I think the exynos is great. I get great performance and battery life.

aami.aami said:
nope its also not working. MX Player Pro is hands down the best player for android. its running the videos but with stutter. im sure this Exynos ****SET is the culprit here.
thats the reason why i and millions of other people like Snapdragon chipsets. they at least work great with great battery life and everything optimized. not like samsung. i might sell this crap soon getting only 3 hours of screen on time. and its just box opened brand new tablet. SAMSUNG DISAPPOINTED ME AGAIN, AND ITS THE LAST TIME I GOT SAMMY ****!
#RANT
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Did you try changing it from HW to SW. May help.

As far as I know Exynos doesn't support hardware rendering of 4k video (only 2.5k).

How do you know which is which?
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I think the exynos is great. I get great performance and battery life.
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How can you tell which chipset you have? I was told this had a 4k screen and I intend to use it soon.

Claw22000 said:
How can you tell which chipset you have? I was told this had a 4k screen and I intend to use it soon.
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Use an app called CPUZ. It can tel you your device info and chipset.

Chipsets?
DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Use an app called CPUZ. It can tel you your device info and chipset.
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So I have the Exynos Processor. How many different chipsets are there in the SM-T800? why would they make more than 1 kind under the same model? What are the main differences between them?
I know noobish but I would like to know. Thanks
DrClaw

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How can you tell which chipset you have? I was told this had a 4k screen and I intend to use it soon.
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We only have 2K screen... 2560x1600... if you download your videos in 2560x1440 they work flawless... 4K video will give you stutter no matter which player you use on this device... I've tried a bunch of them.

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As far as I know Exynos doesn't support hardware rendering of 4k video (only 2.5k).
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I tried playing a few 4k videos on my SM-T800 galaxy tab s 10.5 (exynos) and for every file it stutters.
I've tried MX player - but it defaults to S/W decoding since H/W decoding isn't supported. Even though the format is H/W supported (H264), it just doesn't allow H/W decoding at these resolutions.
BS Player defaults to S/W too, as it shows 'S/W' when it displays the player properties.
Is there no current solution? Do we just sit and wait for H/W support to be enabled in the near future - or is it just too hardware intensive on the Exynos that no one will bother.

Can somebody explain why you are playing 4k video`s on a 2k+ tablet, is it just to see if they play correctly, are they just clips, a full 4k movie must be a big file.
I use the free handbrake software on my notebook, to convert and movies or series mostly animi to nHD which is 640x360 if i am going to keep them on my tablet, the higher the video resolution the more power the tablet needs to use to display them, so not only are 4k video are huge, they use a lot of battery life to play.
John.

It's just to see if the device can actually play 4k, and to see if hardware encoding even makes a difference.
Given that 4k will be more prevalent in the future, it's just testing to see if it will be able to handle the larger bitrates/files.
Most of my 4k clips are only about 2-4 minutes in length.

I wish my 10.5" could play in hardware the new h.265 format, as the video files can be up to half the size of the current h.264 version for the same quality, but it cannot, so it will have to be played back in software mode, oh well you cannot have everything, maybe it will take a while for H.265 to catch on.
John.

Yes. Freezing temporarily. I can not believe that no solution. Note 3 has same cpu, I look its forum but nothing found.