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iPhone 4 now plays 1080p videos easily, then why Galaxy S can't

http://blog.gsmarena.com/iphone-4-now-plays-1080p-videos-easily-does-some-xviddivx-magic-too/
Seems like some people managed to play 1080p on iPhone 4.
SGS has almost the same CPU with better GPU and option for overclock.
What is the reason that is preventing us from playing 1080p? Not good enough app or something else?

1080p on a 4" screen? no thank you.

We just seems to be needing a good codec to play 1080p. So it should just be a software limitation unless the GPU is capped at 720p!

ostendk said:
1080p on a 4" screen? no thank you.
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I would never watch 1080p on 4'' screen (even though some people would)
I'm just curios about the hardware.
@Prankey,
I guess SGX 540 can play 1080p if SGX 535 can.

I'll make a wild guess here:
iOS has all the software needed for full hardware acceleration while Android don't.

How is this a development related question?
And I thought galaxy can play 1080 without problems (didnt try though, as its very stupid).

so iPhone display is 960 x 640 pixels?
1080P is 1920 x 1080 pixels
unless it can output HDMI, seems pretty pointless to me.

The screen resolution is 800x480 anyway so the extra resolution does not benefit you at all. It's just a minor convenience to avoid converting the video but you're wasting battery power to decode the video and a lot of space. 720p is enough of a battery and space waster.

mickeko said:
I'll make a wild guess here:
iOS has all the software needed for full hardware acceleration while Android don't.
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1080p isn't even listed as a file which can be played. You can't even upload it via iTunes, so there is no official hardware acceleration built in for 1080p.
dupel said:
How is this a development related question?
And I thought galaxy can play 1080 without problems (didnt try though, as its very stupid).
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I guess it is a development question, because it may be related with codecs, drivers, etc.
But no, it can't. I have tried it, even though I'm not about to watch full HD on my SGS
miker71 said:
so iPhone display is 960 x 640 pixels?
1080P is 1920 x 1080 pixels
unless it can output HDMI, seems pretty pointless to me.
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We can use microUSB to HDMI and we have DLNA. So it would be useful to us. Anyway, as I've already said my interest is about hardware capabilities not watching full HD on my phone.

Maddmatt said:
The screen resolution is 800x480 anyway so the extra resolution does not benefit you at all. It's just a minor convenience to avoid converting the video but you're wasting battery power to decode the video and a lot of space. 720p is enough of a battery and space waster.
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You still have to convert the video though for these devices still cause h.264 codec support for mobile devices don't support all of what the codec can do. It's also wasted bit rate as well. It's better to have a lower resolution video with a decent bit rate then it is to have a video with a massive resolution but not enough of a bit rate to smooth out artifacts. this resolution race for videos on mobile phones is a tad stupid.

Rock player plays 1080p for me.
The Video I tried was a bit choppy though but acceptable.
(I guess about 15-18fps). I only tried one Video wich I accidentally loaded on my device.
As far as I now Rock player does not use any GPU acceleration though pretty impressive what this little CPU is capable of.
Definatly plays full hd better then my atom netbook.

ostendk said:
1080p on a 4" screen? no thank you.
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agree it's simply over kill
all the extra processing is wasted on a 4" screen
actually iphone4 is only 3.5" not even 4"
720p is more than enough on the 4"

jam3sjam3s said:
1080p isn't even listed as a file which can be played. You can't even upload it via iTunes, so there is no official hardware acceleration built in for 1080p.
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I wasn't talking about hardware accelerated 1080p playback. I was talking about how everything in iOS is adapted to support as much of the hardware features as possible, while Android is not adapted to support the SGS hardware in any other way than Samsung just tossing in (semi)working drivers.

jam3sjam3s said:
1080p isn't even listed as a file which can be played. You can't even upload it via iTunes, so there is no official hardware acceleration built in for 1080p.
I guess it is a development question, because it may be related with codecs, drivers, etc.
But no, it can't. I have tried it, even though I'm not about to watch full HD on my SGS
We can use microUSB to HDMI and we have DLNA. So it would be useful to us. Anyway, as I've already said my interest is about hardware capabilities not watching full HD on my phone.
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And what format have you tried yo play it in?

jam3sjam3s said:
http://blog.gsmarena.com/iphone-4-now-plays-1080p-videos-easily-does-some-xviddivx-magic-too/
Seems like some people managed to play 1080p on iPhone 4.
SGS has almost the same CPU with better GPU and option for overclock.
What is the reason that is preventing us from playing 1080p? Not good enough app or something else?
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1/ there is no point, resolution-wise
2/ with iphone there is a VERY limited range of file formats you CAN actually play, so you will spend half your life converting to a format that apple can control. Most my 1080p movies are mkv format, a format that works on Galaxy S but not on iphone. All my SD movies are Divx and Xvid, again, not compatible with iphone.
Mark.

Well actually we can! Rockplayer can do it so please stop spamming this forum!
You apple fanboy

jodue said:
just ****ing stupid! 1080p on 800x480, wtf? even 720p is higher than the screen-resolution! also a movie in 1080p has ~10Gb which would almost fill my 16gb card. STUPID and completely SENSELESS!
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well apparently the people with iphone4 are too rich and too <insert what you think here> to care about that.
they probably think they have super wireless and can stream a 1080p movie and watch it over the air

AllGamer said:
they probably think they have super wireless and can stream a 1080p movie and watch it over the air
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And why not? 802.11n is more than enough for that...

Anything that can be done on the iphone 4 can be done on the galaxy s, just needs the right software to be made.
The only difference between the iphone 4 and the GS is the software, the screen, and the galaxy s having one generation newer gpu
Anyway what's the point in this? sd cards have a 4gb filesize limit, 1080p would waste so much battery for no benefit over a 720p file

technical spec yes
real life usage, not so great
wireless N is what i use for my home teather, yes it "works" but load time is horrible, as well as the random cut offs, then waiting for the load time again.... it's a pain in the aussie
it's much more convenient to first copy the entire movie into the hard drive via wireless N, then watch it
but that defeats the entire purpose of streaming a movie

Horrible H.264 decoding

I'm not sure that how many people at here know this fact.
Tegra 2's H.264 decoding is waaaay worse than Hummingbird(Galaxy S)
It cannot run any HD H.264 video HP.

Source?
Tegra2 can decode 720p at AVC HP and 1080p at AVC MP with reasonable/usually bitrates at 30p.
€dit: Just seen that u have the korean model, right? AFAIK the LG-Player isn't supporting the mkv-container,
allthough Tegra 2 would be up for the task (at 720p30 HP) as mentioned earlyer.

You will find out when you get O2X
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I think with VLC or RockPlayer you can probably see a difference

How does x264 perform?

I think its the same issue as Adam had with the video/audio desync. Its not a hardware limitation.

I don't get it. I've tried various videos and none of them work properly. However, the demo video files that were on the device (1080p) run perfectly. No frame-skipping at all.
Is there something I'm missing?

I was kind of baffled by this too.
Brilliant playback on the included 1080p files.
So i thought yay lets grab some 1080p trailers from youtube with tubemate.
But alass. not very smooth! Think its indeed the profile that does the trick. or in this case, doesnt.
Next thought. Ok rockplayer will help me out here!.
But i wasnt too impressed with rock on my galaxy s either!.
Loaded rock. but also very crappy. Which is when u think of it, pretty logical.
Why? No hardware support! Rock doesnt even remotely know what a tegra2 soc is. and in fact, NONE of all the video apps do.
So in stead of funky tegra2 hardware decoding, you get software playback.
Ive heard some rumors about nvidia developing an android video player for tegra but i dont know if this is true or not at all.
so unless someone makes a proper video playback app (which in my opinion is way over due already! no offence but theyre all crap if u ask me!) which supports hardware playback AND tegra2 soc, it wont improve very much.
My 2 cents
Ok some more info, apperently Tegra2 isnt very great with high profile encoded. baseline and main profiles should work. more testing to do. Also everything below 1080p high profile should kind of play properly. My eyes are on VLC for android and fingers crossed for them to bring tegra2 suppot and their own great codec sets

Check the Motorola Atrix forum, on XDA (sorry cant link from mobile app), they have basically given up on playing hd h264 files on tegra 2. Such a shame.
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Yes indeed. It sucks ass. I have the same unit but then from T-Mobile Netherlands. Video included works like a charm (ofcourse) but own added videos look like they are in slowmotion. 720p, 1080p doesn't mattter same issue.
Extra added flaw? When your record video in Full HD it does not play back on Full HD TV's or BD players. I checked why and found that it actually records in 1920x1088p!!!! Yes 1088P people.
FOTA updates are also not working for the T-Mobile branded unit. Comes back with validation error.

Tegra 2 limitation
Some search on the internet revealed that Tegra 2 supports fully h.264 main profile, but for high profile, it is only 720p 6MB/s, which is then not suitable for a BD. Anyway, I don't have the intention to fill in my 32 GB of storage with just one movie...
Recording in 1088p instead of 1080p is a bit more annoying, you think there could be a solution for that?
Tom

TheGoD said:
Source?
Tegra2 can decode 720p at AVC HP and 1080p at AVC MP with reasonable/usually bitrates at 30p.
€dit: Just seen that u have the korean model, right? AFAIK the LG-Player isn't supporting the mkv-container,
allthough Tegra 2 would be up for the task (at 720p30 HP) as mentioned earlyer.
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Yeah MVK-files can be played with other videoplayers on Market but I've read in reviews that it's awfully "laggy". Saw a video where they tried to play mvk in RockPlayer, i think it was, and damn... looked like 1fps!

I tried to play a mkv file yesterday with the build-in player which crashed my phone.
I installed qqplayer and am pretty satisfied with the result.

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I tried to play a mkv file yesterday with the build-in player which crashed my phone.
I installed qqplayer and am pretty satisfied with the result.
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What kind of mkv did you try? 1080p?

I keep saying its a software issue causing all these troubles, i have a Adam and since the latest update i saw a improvement on the video playback.
Once we get proper support for mkv it will be awsome

LeviathanPT said:
I keep saying its a software issue causing all these troubles, i have a Adam and since the latest update i saw a improvement on the video playback.
Once we get proper support for mkv it will be awsome
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Do you have a video of the adam playing back mkv?

You can search in the thread @ my sig for " Notion Ink Adam Qi Vs Motorola Xoom by Inspiron41 "
I can add that any file that i have MKV to be played has to have the extension changed to AVI and only QQPlayer can run them, if the sound quality is high more than 2 channels the fps rate will be low this happens with either 720p or 1080p. But if i try to run a MP4 file with 1080p it runs very smooth with audio and video sync, so for me its a issue with decoding of MKV.
Oh and the Adam is running froyo no multiprocessor support neither the video apps do.

Will cheap laptop be powerful enough to tabcast video?

I am in the market for a cheap laptop, but having recently acquired a chromecast, I'd like it to be powerful enough to tabcast HD video.
Many of the cheaper machines have an i5-4200U processor. This has a 1.6GHz clock speed, with a turbo mode speed of 2.6GHz.
The tabcasting min specs say 2GHz for an i5, so I'm not sure whether the i5-4200U would be powerful enough.
Has anyone here tried one?

AleT said:
I am in the market for a cheap laptop, but having recently acquired a chromecast, I'd like it to be powerful enough to tabcast HD video.
Many of the cheaper machines have an i5-4200U processor. This has a 1.6GHz clock speed, with a turbo mode speed of 2.6GHz.
The tabcasting min specs say 2GHz for an i5, so I'm not sure whether the i5-4200U would be powerful enough.
Has anyone here tried one?
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Difficult to say. If your intent is to tab-cast a video, I would say that's probably not enough CPU horsepower.
The minimum tab-casting spec is likely just for casting a static tab (like a web page), not including the additional CPU load for video playback.
Do you have a specific use case in mind?

bhiga said:
Difficult to say. If your intent is to tab-cast a video, I would say that's probably not enough CPU horsepower.
The minimum tab-casting spec is likely just for casting a static tab (like a web page), not including the additional CPU load for video playback.
Do you have a specific use case in mind?
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Hi,
I want to cast sites that don't yet have casting enabled natively, like like itvplayer, BTSport and 4od (UK only). Mainly flash based video.
I can cast a static tab using a ~6yr old celeron laptop, but if I try one of these video sites, it stutters and tells me my computer may not be fast enough.
The minimum spec I quoted is from https://support.google.com/chromecast/answer/3209990?hl=en, and refers to tabcasting high quality video.

AleT said:
Hi,
I want to cast sites that don't yet have casting enabled natively, like like itvplayer, BTSport and 4od (UK only). Mainly flash based video.
I can cast a static tab using a ~6yr old celeron laptop, but if I try one of these video sites, it stutters and tells me my computer may not be fast enough.
The minimum spec I quoted is from https://support.google.com/chromecast/answer/3209990?hl=en, and refers to tabcasting high quality video.
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Ahh, I see. Then you might be okay, though it's always nice to have more "headroom."
Definitely make sure you have 4 GB or more RAM and of course 64-bit Windows, rather than 32-bit.
Best if the hardware can provide hardware acceleration for Flash as well.

I tab-cast from my desktop system, i5-3570K 4.2 GHz. It still stutters slightly, no difference at 720p or 480p, even though the overall CPU utilization stays low. I keep retesting with each new update of the Google Cast extension, but there hasn't been any improvement.
Plex can cast the same video stream to the Chromecast from the same desktop computer without stuttering. It's just poor coding by Google.

Raw GHz isn't really the best measure of performance anyway. The i5 notebook will definitely be good enough for 480p, not sure about HD. Also Windows 8.1 supports wireless screen sharing so if you can find an affordable receiver you'd get smoother results that way.
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DJames1 said:
I tab-cast from my desktop system, i5-3570K 4.2 GHz. It still stutters slightly, no difference at 720p or 480p, even though the overall CPU utilization stays low. I keep retesting with each new update of the Google Cast extension, but there hasn't been any improvement.
Plex can cast the same video stream to the Chromecast from the same desktop computer without stuttering. It's just poor coding by Google.
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The stuttering with Tab Casting has more to do with the method they are using to stream as it does the power of the machine doing the streaming...
Tab Casting is (I Think it is anyway) using an M-JPEG to stream to the CCast...
Which is just what it sounds like sending JPG frames in series like it's some sort of Webcam.

Galaxy Tab S 10.5 and 10 bit videos

Hi
Please somebody confirm is Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 capable of playing 1080p 10 bit (mostly anime) videos?
(please also include info what player you have used, mode of playback, hardware, sowftware, version of a tablet etc)
I am really interested in buying this tablet and the screen is just gorgeous but I am also an anime fan and would like to watch my anime in the highest possible quality on it.
Thanks
Ed

ziprar said:
Hi
Please somebody confirm is Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 capable of playing 1080p 10 bit (mostly anime) videos?
(please also include info what player you have used, mode of playback, hardware, sowftware, version of a tablet etc)
I am really interested in buying this tablet and the screen is just gorgeous but I am also an anime fan and would like to watch my anime in the highest possible quality on it.
Thanks
Ed
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Bump!
I'm considering getting one of the Tabs to avoid carrying my -huge- laptop to watch stuff in other rooms. Also, maybe there's a difference between exynos vs snapdragon regarding video playback capability. Any input appreciated!
And just to confirm... from what I've been reading, T700=Exynos and T705=Snapdragon? there's no T705-Exynos based?

Provinomico said:
Bump!
I'm considering getting one of the Tabs to avoid carrying my -huge- laptop to watch stuff in other rooms. Also, maybe there's a difference between exynos vs snapdragon regarding video playback capability. Any input appreciated!
And just to confirm... from what I've been reading, T700=Exynos and T705=Snapdragon? there's no T705-Exynos based?
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I have yet to see the first Snapdragon for the Tab S series, all of them have been Exynos, i believe that they might use Snapdragon in the NA models to come around november to Verizon and T-Mobile but right now, the LTE and WiFi versions T700-705-800 and 805 are using Exynos.
Video playback has been smooth on my T705 (lossless 1080 flac).

Satorikn said:
I have yet to see the first Snapdragon for the Tab S series, all of them have been Exynos, i believe that they might use Snapdragon in the NA models to come around november to Verizon and T-Mobile but right now, the LTE and WiFi versions T700-705-800 and 805 are using Exynos.
Video playback has been smooth on my T705 (lossless 1080 flac).
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So T700 is Exynos-wifi, and T705 Exynos-LTE.... if they finally roll out Snapdragon based TABs, there should be a new model number, right?
I tried a Hi10P video on a Snapdragon600 based S4 mobile and playback was very choppy -using BSPlayer-, do you know if there's 10bit HW decoding support on the Exynos running the new TABs?

Provinomico said:
So T700 is Exynos-wifi, and T705 Exynos-LTE.... if they finally roll out Snapdragon based TABs, there should be a new model number, right?
I tried a Hi10P video on a Snapdragon600 based S4 mobile and playback was very choppy -using BSPlayer-, do you know if there's 10bit HW decoding support on the Exynos running the new TABs?
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tried some 10bit with mxplayer and that was choppy on the 10.5" tab s

heatfire said:
tried some 10bit with mxplayer and that was choppy on the 10.5" tab s
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What player were you using? SW or HW decoding? Prolly in SW decoding mode any of these won't be able to produce smooth playback and from what a quick reading on the specs and a couple of sites, the Mali GPU on the Exynos SoC would not support 10bit video decoding... so if I'm not wrong, there goes my hope...

Provinomico said:
What player were you using? SW or HW decoding? Prolly in SW decoding mode any of these won't be able to produce smooth playback and from what a quick reading on the specs and a couple of sites, the Mali GPU on the Exynos SoC would not support 10bit video decoding... so if I'm not wrong, there goes my hope...
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There's no GPU, PC or mobile, that supports hi10p decoding. That said, I have a hard time believing that the Tab S wouldn't be able to play 1080p hi10p videos smoothly as my old Nexus 10 with a far slower CPU almost pulls that off and my Z1c with a Snapdragon 800 plays them smoothly (granted, it's a much lower resolution screen but still) with MX Player.
I've put a test video in the link below that people can try to see if it plays smoothly. MX Player is recommended.
http://www.fileswap.com/dl/4GAia6Pop/

Lol full metal alchemist... love the anime... it play fine on my tab s 8.4 with bsplayer and its extra 7arm codec.
Mxplayer was ok last time but now since they lose some codec due to licensing issue some of the high quality video just play choppy since its use sw mode only.
Btw the tab s also lacking some codec. Dont know why samsung left out some of the codec although the device are capable.
Sent from my SM-T705 using Tapatalk

Provinomico said:
What player were you using? SW or HW decoding? Prolly in SW decoding mode any of these won't be able to produce smooth playback and from what a quick reading on the specs and a couple of sites, the Mali GPU on the Exynos SoC would not support 10bit video decoding... so if I'm not wrong, there goes my hope...
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HW wasnt supported. so it was SW.

It's working just fine on my tab 10.5 exynos processor. However i had to turn off all the codec codes and run on pure hardware acceleration for it to work. Goes to show the exynos processor can play videos just fine without any hardware codec or software aid.
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There's no GPU, PC or mobile, that supports hi10p decoding. That said, I have a hard time believing that the Tab S wouldn't be able to play 1080p hi10p videos smoothly as my old Nexus 10 with a far slower CPU almost pulls that off and my Z1c with a Snapdragon 800 plays them smoothly (granted, it's a much lower resolution screen but still) with MX Player.
I've put a test video in the link below that people can try to see if it plays smoothly. MX Player is recommended.
http://www.fileswap.com/dl/4GAia6Pop/
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CazeW said:
There's no GPU, PC or mobile, that supports hi10p decoding. That said, I have a hard time believing that the Tab S wouldn't be able to play 1080p hi10p videos smoothly as my old Nexus 10 with a far slower CPU almost pulls that off and my Z1c with a Snapdragon 800 plays them smoothly (granted, it's a much lower resolution screen but still) with MX Player.
I've put a test video in the link below that people can try to see if it plays smoothly. MX Player is recommended.
http://www.fileswap.com/dl/4GAia6Pop/
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I wouldn't know about the Mali GPU capabilities, but I also thought a Snapdragon800 should be able to playback Hi10p, hence I was interested on getting the 'supposed' Snapdragon version of the Tab S 8.4.
The new Mali -T764- though, seems to support 10bit decoding and H265/HEVC, so I was kinda hoping the T628 Mali would do also 10bit decoding...

NixxonExxo said:
It's working just fine on my tab 10.5 exynos processor. However i had to turn off all the codec codes and run on pure hardware acceleration for it to work. Goes to show the exynos processor can play videos just fine without any hardware codec or software aid.
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I hadn't read you... so you got that Hi10p sample that CazeW posted playing back smoothly? which player did you use?

That clip played fine on my 10.5 thru BS Player but SW mode only. All my 1080p rips play in HW mode so not sure... This is still a great device for multimedia.

I use a media player that is banned by ios and android called xbmc or soon to be renamed to kodi. The best media player ever!
It runs great on either software or hardware accelerometer alone.
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I hadn't read you... so you got that Hi10p sample that CazeW posted playing back smoothly? which player did you use?
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Where do you guys get these 10bit Anime series from. I normally stream them from Anime.fullfights so quality is never really HD (it says 720p but most likely a bit compressed)

Rage1ofakind said:
Where do you guys get these 10bit Anime series from. I normally stream them from Anime.fullfights so quality is never really HD (it says 720p but most likely a bit compressed)
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General torrent sites or dedicated anime trackers.
BTW i just bought a Tab s8.4 today, and tried the sample straight away using vlc, smooth playback, will try with the video I could not play with an galaxy s4, which is higher bitrate, if it plays back I would be officially in love with the thing.

No luck, tried a high bitrate video (with embedded subtitles), the same I used on the Galaxy S4, and it plays better but is still unwatchable Both with VLC and KmPlayer. I will install xbmc and BSPlayer tonight but I fear the results will be the same :/

Provinomico said:
No luck, tried a high bitrate video (with embedded subtitles), the same I used on the Galaxy S4, and it plays better but is still unwatchable Both with VLC and KmPlayer. I will install xbmc and BSPlayer tonight but I fear the results will be the same :/
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Did yoiu try MX player pro? Also you if u give me a link I could test it out on my custom rom

eousphoros said:
Did yoiu try MX player pro? Also you if u give me a link I could test it out on my custom rom
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Hi eousphoros, last night I tried with MX Player, HW+ mode did not work, but software&multi core mode seemed to play it back about fine, not absolutely perfect, but watchable, as soon as I flash a custom kernel a play with settings a bit I'm sure it will improve the missing -tiny- bit. Thanks for the tip. Will try also BS-Player&XBMC.

4K Video player

Hi. I need a video player that can run 4k videos. Is there any? I have the exynos lte one. I know exynos kimits the video recording to 1080p but can it play 4K just like normal 1080p? If yes, any player which can do so? I have checked mx player pro it plays the video but its plays with too much stutter cant see nothing. Any player anyone can tell which can help??

Try the wondershare from Google Play
Sent from my C6906

tonybz said:
Try the wondershare from Google Play
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nope its also not working. MX Player Pro is hands down the best player for android. its running the videos but with stutter. im sure this Exynos ****SET is the culprit here.
thats the reason why i and millions of other people like Snapdragon chipsets. they at least work great with great battery life and everything optimized. not like samsung. i might sell this crap soon getting only 3 hours of screen on time. and its just box opened brand new tablet. SAMSUNG DISAPPOINTED ME AGAIN, AND ITS THE LAST TIME I GOT SAMMY ****!
#RANT

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nope its also not working. MX Player Pro is hands down the best player for android. its running the videos but with stutter. im sure this Exynos ****SET is the culprit here.
thats the reason why i and millions of other people like Snapdragon chipsets. they at least work great with great battery life and everything optimized. not like samsung. i might sell this crap soon getting only 3 hours of screen on time. and its just box opened brand new tablet. SAMSUNG DISAPPOINTED ME AGAIN, AND ITS THE LAST TIME I GOT SAMMY ****!
#RANT
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I think the exynos is great. I get great performance and battery life.

aami.aami said:
nope its also not working. MX Player Pro is hands down the best player for android. its running the videos but with stutter. im sure this Exynos ****SET is the culprit here.
thats the reason why i and millions of other people like Snapdragon chipsets. they at least work great with great battery life and everything optimized. not like samsung. i might sell this crap soon getting only 3 hours of screen on time. and its just box opened brand new tablet. SAMSUNG DISAPPOINTED ME AGAIN, AND ITS THE LAST TIME I GOT SAMMY ****!
#RANT
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Did you try changing it from HW to SW. May help.

As far as I know Exynos doesn't support hardware rendering of 4k video (only 2.5k).

How do you know which is which?
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I think the exynos is great. I get great performance and battery life.
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How can you tell which chipset you have? I was told this had a 4k screen and I intend to use it soon.

Claw22000 said:
How can you tell which chipset you have? I was told this had a 4k screen and I intend to use it soon.
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Use an app called CPUZ. It can tel you your device info and chipset.

Chipsets?
DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Use an app called CPUZ. It can tel you your device info and chipset.
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So I have the Exynos Processor. How many different chipsets are there in the SM-T800? why would they make more than 1 kind under the same model? What are the main differences between them?
I know noobish but I would like to know. Thanks
DrClaw

Claw22000 said:
How can you tell which chipset you have? I was told this had a 4k screen and I intend to use it soon.
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We only have 2K screen... 2560x1600... if you download your videos in 2560x1440 they work flawless... 4K video will give you stutter no matter which player you use on this device... I've tried a bunch of them.

TheGoD said:
As far as I know Exynos doesn't support hardware rendering of 4k video (only 2.5k).
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I tried playing a few 4k videos on my SM-T800 galaxy tab s 10.5 (exynos) and for every file it stutters.
I've tried MX player - but it defaults to S/W decoding since H/W decoding isn't supported. Even though the format is H/W supported (H264), it just doesn't allow H/W decoding at these resolutions.
BS Player defaults to S/W too, as it shows 'S/W' when it displays the player properties.
Is there no current solution? Do we just sit and wait for H/W support to be enabled in the near future - or is it just too hardware intensive on the Exynos that no one will bother.

Can somebody explain why you are playing 4k video`s on a 2k+ tablet, is it just to see if they play correctly, are they just clips, a full 4k movie must be a big file.
I use the free handbrake software on my notebook, to convert and movies or series mostly animi to nHD which is 640x360 if i am going to keep them on my tablet, the higher the video resolution the more power the tablet needs to use to display them, so not only are 4k video are huge, they use a lot of battery life to play.
John.

It's just to see if the device can actually play 4k, and to see if hardware encoding even makes a difference.
Given that 4k will be more prevalent in the future, it's just testing to see if it will be able to handle the larger bitrates/files.
Most of my 4k clips are only about 2-4 minutes in length.

I wish my 10.5" could play in hardware the new h.265 format, as the video files can be up to half the size of the current h.264 version for the same quality, but it cannot, so it will have to be played back in software mode, oh well you cannot have everything, maybe it will take a while for H.265 to catch on.
John.

Yes. Freezing temporarily. I can not believe that no solution. Note 3 has same cpu, I look its forum but nothing found.